Sirpopopop
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Yeah, I noticed how the poster in question adopted the alt-right tactic of claiming to be the very thing that they are dragging through the mud so as to establish credibility/shield them from criticism that they have a bias.
Clinton: 'I was on the way to winning' until Comey, Russia intervened
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Yeah, I noticed how the poster in question adopted the alt-right tactic of claiming to be the very thing that they are dragging through the mud so as to establish credibility/shield them from criticism that they have a bias.
polyh3dron
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The dems didn't need a perfect candidate. They were going up against Donald fucking Trump. But having one as flawed as Hillary did them no favors.
All of Trump's perceived negatives couldn't be contrasted against Hillary because she had many overlapping perceived negatives. Particularly in the dishonesty and corruption areas. Again. Perceived. Not actual.
jack_package_200
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This had literally nothing to do with the article or the interview.
If you wanna go bitch about PoliGAF do it there.
Oh wow this thread looks like a Primaries thread.
Just to remind everyone.
Bernie lost fair and square so drop it.
Hillary lost fair and square and she's taking responsibility for it.
People hating on Bernie for fucking Clinton in the election need to remember that people who voted for Bernie but not Hillary chose that hill to die on because of ideological belifes, and that's totally valid. She was not a transformative candidate which lead to people not giving a shit. If you continue to blame apethetic voters for not voting for a candidate they don't believe in then get ready for Trump 2020.
Just to remind everyone.
Bernie lost fair and square so drop it.
Hillary lost fair and square and she's taking responsibility for it.
People hating on Bernie for fucking Clinton in the election need to remember that people who voted for Bernie but not Hillary chose that hill to die on because of ideological belifes, and that's totally valid. She was not a transformative candidate which lead to people not giving a shit. If you continue to blame apethetic voters for not voting for a candidate they don't believe in then get ready for Trump 2020.
Arrogant Bastard
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Looking back at the past 100 days, yah it really should. If the vote was held today with the information that is known, I have no doubt that she would have won.
Nope, please don't, we hate you.
DontBeThatGuy
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Yeah, some of you keep saying that, as if he wasn't enormously popular in the places that ultimately swung the election. They wanted him, not an alternative.
2Smashed4U
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Nope. Fuck apathy. I don't have the luxury of being apathetic about a Trump presidency. If what's going on *right now* isn't enough to get you off your ass and do what needs to be done, then you are the problem.
polyh3dron
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It was an anti-establishment Republican against the embodiment of the establishment in Hillary.
People also seem to forget that Trump beat other Republicans for the nomination.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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"Total lack of political experience and knowledge" doesn't mean "anti-establishment"
Mammoth Jones
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Fair opinion. Didn't hold up when it actually mattered though, did it?
I think Clinton will point at anything other than a mirror. It is what it is.
Poor GRIMES
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we still trying it with this "earn muh vote" nonsense when she was running against Donald Trump? given how his presidency is going after only 100 days, you would think those who voted for Bernie but wouldn't for Hillary would start showing some accountability/remorse...
The intrinsic problem is that as long as your party controls the WH, your voters get incredibly apathetic because so many of them DO think the president's a monarch.
Arrogant Bastard
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Yep. Obama was the best and one of the worst things to happen to this country (politically speaking). Now the left is going to want and demand the dream everytime. Sorry guys, that isn't likely. You don't make it to that position without warts, Obama was exceptionally talented and lucky enough to be rolling into a gimmie election after eight years of Bush.
No it didn't, because she got screwed in the last two weeks. She was heading for a victory.
Obviously, that isn't true because she has taken responsibility for it time and time again. I'm not sure what you guys want from her other than to hold her head in shame and disgrace.
"Embodiment of the establishment"
Nobody would've given two shits if she didn't have a vagina
Puritan-ass backward-ass fuckstick country we live in. Even the libs don't realize when they're double-standarding the shit out of women.
Did you read the article? Specifically the part where she takes personal responsibility?
Psychoward
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There are plenty including me, they just aren't all dead set on bringing up the primaries or railing against GAF every chance they can get.
In case you hadn't noticed, Bernie isn't running for office right now.
Like your entire post history is a bunch of persecution complex nonsense tbh.
Earthbound64
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paperboywriter
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Sure, campaigning and being a president require some different skill sets and a person could be better at one than the other, such as Trump, but someone can also show their ineptness in one that would have led to the same problems at the other job, which imo is what Hillary has done. I'm not judging Hillary on only her campaigns. Her uninspired policies, terrible judgment, and flipflopping contribute to my negative opinion of her.
TestOfTide
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Honestly when the Dems take back control, I hope we just straight up start doing internet sanctions against Russia. Tell every social media company that they are forbidden from allowing Russian IP addresses.
Psychoward
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I mean, gender being a factor is intrinsically linked to the downplaying of sexual assault and harassment by a male towards a female.
roflwaffles
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Oh this thread already went to shit.
Arrogant Bastard
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This is such an ahistoric way to look at this. She was buried by damn near a joint effort by Comey, Russia, and wikileaks.
Could only imagine what would come out if we had an actual independent review of the 2016 election.
There is such a small margin of error in national elections, you are basically looking at a 10% toss up of the electorate.
And his de facto exemption from all accusations of sexual assault just by becoming the U.S.'s Head Man
They've literally implied that now that he's President the way the fucko treated women doesn't matter anymore
That's what the Patriarchy is. Pushing women in politics like Clinton down and propping conflict-of-interest-drenched treasonous shitstains like him the fuck up until he's somehow leading the most powerful country on earth into a war just to cover up his pee scandal
I'd say the Patriarchy is responsible for EVERYTHING. The specific details, we can haggle over. If that's what this thread is.
Last year you seemed to have had a different opinion on that.
Attacking Sanders and blaming him and his supporters doesn't help anything when the real enemies are the people who are actually in charge (Republicans). For the entire primary season, Sanders supporters were depicted as the enemy. I posted what I did because I'm tired of seeing it all the time for over a year now.
The party isn't united. I mean look at this.
How is this okay?
Arrogant Bastard
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So you have an issue with a specific poster, not PoliGAF, why didn't you say that from the start.
How is it okay for you to continually assert that PoliGAF is basically some monolithic hivemind? You started this shitshow, lets remember that.
You are starting to approach Trump levels of projection.
The primaries were never rigged.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Psychoward
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I notice there is no reference to a monolithic "poliGAF" there. Did you make a mistake perhaps?
jack_package_200
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Because EVERYONE at PoliGAF is the same.
Flying Toaster
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You are all the same... Just a bunch of NeoGaffers.
Psychoward
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I think pigeon doesn't want you to come and post in the poligaf thread because you have literally hundreds of posts with baseless insults against "poligaf". If I posted in that thread I wouldn't want you to come there and continue your mud-slinging either tbh.
pigeon attacking you also has no relevance to the party being united or not, furthermore in a thread where people are talking about strategies going forward you choose to bring up old wounds (hillary supporters and poligaf) instead of attacking the Republicans. In other words you've failed to follow your own advice in the same thread.
Finally, you can't continually cast blanket insults against members of the community and then cry crocodile tears when they clapback at you.
Literally that post says that you're wrong to say that everybody in PoliGAF thought Bernie was evil.
What wouldn't be okay about it, exactly?
paperboywriter
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stop this petty infighting. It's embarrassing.
George Washington
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You lost to...
Everything you say about the election is automatically invalid.
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Biden would have won
Prof. Bathtub
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I may be in a bubble of mass media critics regarding the cable/print news' refusal to acknowledge their role in campaign coverage, is it really a widespread thing to deny that email coverage had any effect on voters? Considering that the same breach in protocol is occurring in this administration and it's not even registering compared to the far more dire scandals. It certainly makes the case that they really don't care about collusion with wikileaks.
Was a man who won a primary and went in to the general with full support of his party's base, establishment and media outlets really that much of a pushover?
Was a man who won a primary and went in to the general with full support of his party's base, establishment and media outlets really that much of a pushover?
Psychoward
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You've got your quote set on the wrong member mate.
Arrogant Bastard
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Well the 1st POTUS has spoken; someone tell the House and Senate to wrap it up.
I understand where she's coming from and shit supports it, but she still lost to fucking Donald Trump. Ya know, the dude that bragged about sexual assualt. And that was just the top layer of the fucked up cake.
There's pretty much nothing that can be said that can make her loss easier. She should have ran a better campaign and attacked him more on his faults, period. The high road could only go so far in that election unfortunately. She was driving above everyone including the American people and never thought to use the low road. Even though the low road can get grimy, it's also a way to connect to the public.
There's pretty much nothing that can be said that can make her loss easier. She should have ran a better campaign and attacked him more on his faults, period. The high road could only go so far in that election unfortunately. She was driving above everyone including the American people and never thought to use the low road. Even though the low road can get grimy, it's also a way to connect to the public.
Biden couldn't even convince BARACK OBAMA to support him and they worked together for eight years.
Flying Toaster
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I don't trust you George NPR told me the truth about you... Ginger.
A Link to the Past
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She's not wrong, but she would have won in spite of Comey and Russia if she had tried harder to win the Rust Belt. She was too concerned with making history by stealing Georgia and Arizona.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
What it 'is' in this case is you not reading.. In the statement just prior to the one about the FBI she's pointing directly in the mirror.
Psychoward
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In a way. Trump supporters clearly never gave a shit about it since they excuse it when their own admin does it, they just used it as a bullet point to attack Hillary. It might have made an impact on 3rd party voters or people who didn't end up voting though because it turned them off the idea of Hillary. Those same people might be mad at this admin for doing it too. Or they may realize holy shit they fucked up why didn't they bite the bullet and vote for Hillary.
thehypocrite
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So what?
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