Glass Rebel
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you post amidst multiple posts discussing Yondu and Rocket murdering the Ravagers.
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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you post amidst multiple posts discussing Yondu and Rocket murdering the Ravagers.
We've finally reached GAF's "why didn't he just shoot them in the leg?!" argument applied to comic book movies.
Yeah but they deserved it.
The Ravagers are dumb as a rock for a reason, they're meant to be fodder and not cared for.
Rygar 8 Bit
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that would be kinda cool actually
UltimaPooh
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Are we really arguing the morals of the Guardians here?
Even after the setup of the first movie?
Even after the setup of the first movie?
Pagusas
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If your talking about the "you shouldn't murder the murderers" guy, he deserves to be mocked. Reminds me of those gaffers who said they'd let their families get murdered/raped instead of killing someone to protect them.
Otherwise I had complaints about the movie and people argued about the points I was making and refuted them with logical discussions, no one really mocked me, so not sure what you mean.
MugiwaraCole
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lol I just realized Rocket asking Yondu if he has copies of Peter's music and then playing a song from Vol. 2 is a plot hole. Peter never had access to Vol. 2 while with Yondu lmao how would Yondu have the music with him?
I feel like I'm in the AoS thread when they raided a Hydra base and killed some of the guards. People were complaining that the Hydra agents didn't know any better and didn't need to be killed.
At least that time the argument made sense as there were viable options for non-lethal force. The Hydra agents weren't going to personally hunt them down afterwards. The Ravengers wouldn't have stopped hunting Yondu down. He had no choice here. They killed every person he was close to that dared oppose them and sent them into space to die a painful death as they watched and laughed about it. They needed to be killed in order for the plot to advance. There were already 2 bad guys in the mix with the golden​ people and Ego. If they left them alive they would have come back for the final fight.
At least that time the argument made sense as there were viable options for non-lethal force. The Hydra agents weren't going to personally hunt them down afterwards. The Ravengers wouldn't have stopped hunting Yondu down. He had no choice here. They killed every person he was close to that dared oppose them and sent them into space to die a painful death as they watched and laughed about it. They needed to be killed in order for the plot to advance. There were already 2 bad guys in the mix with the golden​ people and Ego. If they left them alive they would have come back for the final fight.
Please note I'm not trying to call anyone out, but what I was trying to point out is just the straight up defection.
Who said that was Vol 2 music? We didn't necessarily hear all of the songs on his Vol 1 tape after all.
I was pointing out how distorted his priorities were when watching the film.
Scorpion Soldier
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I mean, Peter could've had more than one tape in his backpack when he Yondu etc picked him up. The Awesome Mix just happens to be a gift he got from his mom, which is why he listens to it as much as he does.
Obliterator
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Rocket and Yondu kill them because they have no problems with straight up murdering people that are against them.
Hell Cap kills the shit out of dudes on the regular as well.
Hell Cap kills the shit out of dudes on the regular as well.
MugiwaraCole
Member
We definitely did. The soundtracks that are released are Vol. 1 and 2, as they are in the actual movie.
This makes more sense. Feel like it's just a plot hole though, but an unimportant one lol
bigboss370
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If Yondu never used his head to control the arrow...why did he need the fin?
Glass Rebel
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Ridiculous comments get ridiculed. It's the way of the world.
Pai Pai Master
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"it's tryhard" isn't legitimate criticism, maybe if people can vocalize what they actually are trying to say with real words, people will respond likewise.
Watched the movie yesterday and it was really relaly boring.
How is it possible that Marvel takes a big conflict and make it small and uninteresting?
-Stupid and not funny jokes, specially the penis joke and the royal carpet being stuck, was I watching The Simpsons? Pro-tip: not funny
-Watching Groot dancing instead of the fight against the interdimensional being.
-Groot front and center the whole movie (and they said they wouldn't do that the previous movie), besides I don't know what's cute about him, he looks ugly.
-The special effects, the part where Ego is walking as a skeleton and then muscle it looked like a stop-motion skeleton from an old movie, it was really off. I think most effects were off, the colors looked too bright making the characters stand out, all parts of the movie looked like printed backgrounds with the characters placed on them and the camera doing tricks to convey a deepness.
-We bitched about The Force Awakens and it's lack of space distances awareness, for example the shot of the Starkiller base destroying 5 planets at the same time and the planets were all in the same shot, something similar happened here:
"We need to make a jump to a safe planet"
"It's 20 clicks ahead we won't make it"
"Yes we will" *camera moves a little and we see an asteroid field "if we go through this quantum asteroid field"
That part reminded me of Star Fox , like "which way are you gonna take, press left for X Sector or right for Katina"
-The blue goo looked like some internship's job, it moved to fast in few frames.
-Kill Yondu at the end and the next credits/post credits scenes make fun. Why didn't they have him and Rocket tell the Ravagers about their plan to stop ego, kill Yondu at the fight with Ego and then have all Ravagers join the fight to make it bigger? (I guess it's because they blew all they sfx budget on Groot).
-The music, felt forced, just to pander to the people that thought they were melomaniacs thanks to the first's mix.
+The only thing that I liked was Nebula and her longing for a sister. Talking about her, I felt like her watching the movie rolling my eyes most of the time.
Marvel be less afraid of making big conflicts feel big, you have the resources, also exploit Mantis as you did Groot.
How is it possible that Marvel takes a big conflict and make it small and uninteresting?
-Stupid and not funny jokes, specially the penis joke and the royal carpet being stuck, was I watching The Simpsons? Pro-tip: not funny
-Watching Groot dancing instead of the fight against the interdimensional being.
-Groot front and center the whole movie (and they said they wouldn't do that the previous movie), besides I don't know what's cute about him, he looks ugly.
-The special effects, the part where Ego is walking as a skeleton and then muscle it looked like a stop-motion skeleton from an old movie, it was really off. I think most effects were off, the colors looked too bright making the characters stand out, all parts of the movie looked like printed backgrounds with the characters placed on them and the camera doing tricks to convey a deepness.
-We bitched about The Force Awakens and it's lack of space distances awareness, for example the shot of the Starkiller base destroying 5 planets at the same time and the planets were all in the same shot, something similar happened here:
"We need to make a jump to a safe planet"
"It's 20 clicks ahead we won't make it"
"Yes we will" *camera moves a little and we see an asteroid field "if we go through this quantum asteroid field"
That part reminded me of Star Fox , like "which way are you gonna take, press left for X Sector or right for Katina"
-The blue goo looked like some internship's job, it moved to fast in few frames.
-Kill Yondu at the end and the next credits/post credits scenes make fun. Why didn't they have him and Rocket tell the Ravagers about their plan to stop ego, kill Yondu at the fight with Ego and then have all Ravagers join the fight to make it bigger? (I guess it's because they blew all they sfx budget on Groot).
-The music, felt forced, just to pander to the people that thought they were melomaniacs thanks to the first's mix.
+The only thing that I liked was Nebula and her longing for a sister. Talking about her, I felt like her watching the movie rolling my eyes most of the time.
Marvel be less afraid of making big conflicts feel big, you have the resources, also exploit Mantis as you did Groot.
That wasn't my point at all. The soundtrack is the songs in the movie. That doesn't mean that's all of the songs on his tape. When I was a kid recording music off the radio I had almost 30 songs on each side. If you aren't old enough to have done that you probably wouldn't know you could have so many songs on a tape. The other guy said it better though.
Yondu is speaking figuratively in that instance. He is describing what motivated and drove his decisions as more than just pure logic.
Actually no - we see "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" playing at the end of the first film, and it's included in Awesome Mix Vol. 1 in the real world, but it's clearly the first song on the second tape. It's implied that "I Want You Back" is on that tape as well.
So it definitely could be an unheard track on Vol. 1.
tearsintherain
Member
Uh the first movie opened to $94m domestic opening weekend, not sure how you'd say thats not good.
Anyways GOTG2 has opened to $145m domestic and already $425m worldwide, while the first topped off at $775m worldwide this should easily break $1b and the budget didn't really go up a lot, the first movie cost $175m (+marketing) and the second one is at $200m (+ marketing).
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4290
bigboss370
Member
but he was specifically talking about the arrow, not his general decisions and motivations
This won't break a billion.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
Did GotG 2 have the highest death toll among the MCU movies?
Obliterator
Member
It's not doing a Billy. It'll probably be around $850
LinkAndEpona
Banned
I watched this and really loved it! Getting the Blu Ray day 1.
I can see some significant flaws though, namely that no one really witnessed what happened outside of the Guardians and Ravengers. This movie greatly expanded on most of the characters and I guess that is what was most important.
I can see some significant flaws though, namely that no one really witnessed what happened outside of the Guardians and Ravengers. This movie greatly expanded on most of the characters and I guess that is what was most important.
MugiwaraCole
Member
I got your point. It was wrong. Gunn told us the first soundtrack was the actual tape, so I assume the same is true of the second.
Vipershark
Member
And yet nobody actually replied to my previous post which did exactly that
Okay dude, you can get off that high horse at any time.
Jest Chillin
Member
He was talking about his motivation. You don't use the arrow by concentrating on it. It reacts to your desire. What you want to do with your heart. The arrow specifically still needs a way to be broadcast because it's a technological weapon. Not a magic one. Hence, the Mohawk.
Ah didn't realize Gunn said that. He probably had other tapes then like the other guy said.
WiFi
MugiwaraCole
Member
This is a good point. C'mon Gunn lol
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
Watched it last night and while I thought it was a fun movie it pales in comparison to the first GOG. They tried too hard on some of the jokes and like someone mentioned above it felt like I was watching a comedy with some action rather than an action movie with great comedy sprinkled in.
I think it is weird that Drax the Destroyer was pretty much just comic relief.
Ego was a bit contrived and the final battle was just as bad, the dude is a celestial and manifested a human form.... who cares if you beat the crap out of the human form. Have to believe he "allowed" himself to lose, right?
EIther way, it was fun I just question some of the decisions made.
I think it is weird that Drax the Destroyer was pretty much just comic relief.
Ego was a bit contrived and the final battle was just as bad, the dude is a celestial and manifested a human form.... who cares if you beat the crap out of the human form. Have to believe he "allowed" himself to lose, right?
EIther way, it was fun I just question some of the decisions made.
R_thanatos
Member
and kill a ravagers by throwing him off a bridge because he was angry
i'm not even gonna ask where that thumb came from
Obliterator
Member
My biggest issue with the movie is definitely the amount of gags. I get Guardians is supposed to be funny but it for sure felt overused here.
Maybe take away 25% of the jokes and I think the film plays much better
Maybe take away 25% of the jokes and I think the film plays much better
MugiwaraCole
Member
The only joke I think was maybe not needed was the tape one. And that one was still funny. So, *shrug*
Glass Rebel
Member
Your post was just a bunch of presumptuous drivel stating that the jokes are there to be meme-worthy and "viral" without actually explaining why.
Enjoying such things are beyond the interests of real adults like ourselves.
It's aimed at breeders dawg. Drax holding him like a real baby, parents gobble that shit up.
Vipershark
Member
I'm confused, did I imagine making an effortpost which detailed each of the main characters in this movie on the last page of this thread or are you just blind?
The length of your post has little correlation with its quality.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Are you kidding me? No..this must be true. Some strange fucking people on this board..
Vipershark
Member
Yeah okay dude.
Fuck outta here with that.
If nobody can talk about your precious movie not being as good as you think it is then you're not worth my time.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Zune prices aren't skyrocketing like Walkman prices did after the first movie
Even GOTG couldn't make the Zune cool
Even GOTG couldn't make the Zune cool
Stop trying so hard, guy. Jeez.
what the f is an effortpost?
Edit: you just seem very riled. Maybe start with an effortpost, and you'd see better responses. Its talking racoons dawg, its all good.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Thousands died in that little Ultron incident.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
I yell forced and stakes in EVERY comic book thread. It's like bingo to me. I also say I outraged 🍸 in every thread that has a quarter of the thread using that stupid word..
Deflection..lol.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Guardians 1 was a comedy too. The climax of the movie featured a dance off.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Hahahahahahaha this has me rolling.