Stallone looks really good tho for a 70 year old, wonder what his regimen is.
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!
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Stallone looks really good tho for a 70 year old, wonder what his regimen is.
Choppasmith
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Interesting. I felt the first movie was a little flat and forced and feel like this movie fixed it for the most part, though they did really push Baby Groot hard, I'll give you that.
Really cool to see the original Guardians. Was not expecting that at all.
ReplacementPelican
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Definitely but then again they also killed him off so it sort of balanced, showed how powerful Yondu was without making subsequent movies or action scenes within less 'well Yondu can kill hundreds of people easily, no big deal.'
LyleLanley
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A pitcher full of steroids at every meal.
Glass Rebel
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Yondu was so OP it makes me wonder how skrong Stakar and the other OG Guardians are.
Vincent Grayson
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Yondu is the DMPC that you made too awesome and now need to kill off.
That ship has sailed. We've moved on to better and bigger things. We're more likely to get a Wasp movie at this point than black widow.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
LOVED LOVED LOVED the movie.
Although the amount of cutesy baby groot close ups were often a bit too much. It's painfully obvious it's for the kid's toys but whatever.
Drax was the the most enjoyable part of the movie. "My nippleeeeeeeeeeeeeeees" had me laughing in stitches. Yandu and Rocket also had some great scenes together. The revelation of Ego implanting the tumor in Peter's mother was met with a lot of audible gasps and I didn't see it coming. I thought they would do something like her mother being in contact with a 'space man' had some side effects, didn't think they'd take it the 'intentionally done' way.
Although the amount of cutesy baby groot close ups were often a bit too much. It's painfully obvious it's for the kid's toys but whatever.
Drax was the the most enjoyable part of the movie. "My nippleeeeeeeeeeeeeeees" had me laughing in stitches. Yandu and Rocket also had some great scenes together. The revelation of Ego implanting the tumor in Peter's mother was met with a lot of audible gasps and I didn't see it coming. I thought they would do something like her mother being in contact with a 'space man' had some side effects, didn't think they'd take it the 'intentionally done' way.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, forgot to mention that in my post but that bit was GREAT.
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The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I agree with this. The first movie was the one everyone was praising for its innovative wackiness and it felt way more formulaic when you stripped the paint away. This one had a lot of different stuff going on under the hood, and really felt like a proper ensemble piece
friskykillface
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I'll have to watch this again but at the moment I've got the first movie as the better guardians movie.
The collector the god should have been in the movie
(in before avatar pic quote)
The collector the god should have been in the movie
(in before avatar pic quote)
I enjoyed it. And sure, I can see why "the novelty" wore off a bit, and I think the movie could be 10 or 15 minutes shorter, and all the melodrama could've been a bit less on the nose. But my personal benchmark for Marvel movies is my girlfriend; who has seen most of them but has very little investment in them. She had a fun time.
TrynUrLuck
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This movie was 10x funnier then part 1, pretty much was entertained and laughed my ass off through the whole movie. GotG is officially the goat imo.
Vincent Grayson
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I'm sure that'll be revisited, but my assumption would be that he's still half-celestial, but doesn't have access to any fancy powers now. Whether it was his half-celestial nature, or the actual powers that let him hold the stone and not die is the question.
Here's a visual guide to everything wrong with GotG Vol2:
But don't you like the Transformer movies?
The Baby Groot criticisms are so strange to me. I fully expected him to be shoved down our throats but he only had, what, three scenes as the focus? The opening dance number, the breakout, and the bomb.
Like, he was always around, but I feel like he had less screen time than the rest of the cast.
Like, he was always around, but I feel like he had less screen time than the rest of the cast.
And the DCEU movies
At least the Transformer movies have popular Chinese cameos
Inferno313
Banned
Here's a visual guide to everything wrong with GotG Vol2:
I've had to rant so many times on this site about how art can't be objective, blah blah blah.
but I have to say that this is objectively false.
autumnleaf
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None of the heroes can go toe-to-toe with Thanos (maybe Dr. Strange...), it's sort of the point they're confronting a god they have no chance in overcoming. That's what makes it heroic!
The Vision and Scarlet Witch can, too.
Captain Marvel will as wel but I can't recall if she's confirmed for it or not even though I'm sure she'll be there.
What does fanservice even mean in this instance? There is no more coolness in the first one than this one besides the fact it was different at the time, Baby Groot has three scenes, most of the movie takes place in two places and it's not a whole lotta action till the ship breakout so I dunno where you're going with the animators thing.
In regards to Groot I can understand the criticism being expressed. I think for instance the breakout scene where he is tasked to get the prototype fin back to Yondu Gunn stretches out the gag to the point where the scene drags the pace of the film to a crawl in order to satisfy the gags in question. First he gets a pair of underwear, then he gets a weird space creature, then he grabs a ravager's eye to which Rocket requests they leave it because it'll be funny (and as a call back to the original movie), then he grabs a desk, then he grabs a human toe, then they stop to clarify Groot's opinions on hats, and then FINALLY Kraglin brings the fin to Yondu directly.
I'm not going to suggest those moments aren't individually funny, but I do believe that Gunn goes overboard indulging in that gag to the detriment to the pacing of the scene as a whole and squandering the effectiveness of the gags in the process. Had he been more judicious cutting some of those gags in favour of sticking to the rule of three it could have felt more succinct, punchy and funnier overall. (Not suggesting he has to strictly follow any rules of comedy, only that he could have afforded to edit and tone down some of the repetition).
One might also lay this notion at the rest of the comedy in general so it isn't specifically a Groot issue, but when he is the focus of a scene he is utilised in a manner that often falls under these issues and exacerbates audiences patience in the process.
I'm not going to suggest those moments aren't individually funny, but I do believe that Gunn goes overboard indulging in that gag to the detriment to the pacing of the scene as a whole and squandering the effectiveness of the gags in the process. Had he been more judicious cutting some of those gags in favour of sticking to the rule of three it could have felt more succinct, punchy and funnier overall. (Not suggesting he has to strictly follow any rules of comedy, only that he could have afforded to edit and tone down some of the repetition).
One might also lay this notion at the rest of the comedy in general so it isn't specifically a Groot issue, but when he is the focus of a scene he is utilised in a manner that often falls under these issues and exacerbates audiences patience in the process.
Do you have statistics on that? I think you may be incorrect. Especially on solo screen time.
He isn't in the movie that much. The 4 minute intro, the breakout sequence and the mascot scene, the end, and various 5 sec sequences where he's just seen. None of this adds up to a lot of time in comparison to everything else, but people can't stand anything cute so gonna hate
I don't disagree with you in that Groot is very clearly in the background for most of the movie and his overall screen time doesn't add up to a significant amount either once tallied, however I am suggesting that in spite of that when he is the focus of the movie many of his scenes affect the pacing of the film and the overall momentum to the detriment of some audiences.
DirtyLarry
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I am camp 1st movie as well. Just felt it was better. Was more varied with locales and characters it seemed so it felt more Epic. Also felt that even though the music was still damn good in Volume 2, it was just perfection in Vol 1.
I actually fell asleep for 45 minutes and we saw a noon showing on Saturday. So maybe I missed the best 45 minutes of the movie and my opinion is skewed. Or maybe I did not and I fell asleep because I was bored. I am leaning towards the latter as I did not seem to miss any major plot points.
My wife enjoyed it, and she is not a big Marvel fan like I am. And I do think that sums up GotG pretty much. They are the most "accessible" Marvel movie for non Marvel fans. The humor is universal. A funny comment is a funny comment, and I do think they relied on that whole approach a bit too much for Vol 2. Again though, that is what makes them successful so I get why they do it.
It is my least favorite Marvel Studio's franchise. But I love Marvel movies, so even my least favorite is better than a lot of movies out there these days.
I do need to watch it again to form a true opinion where I do not fall asleep.
I actually fell asleep for 45 minutes and we saw a noon showing on Saturday. So maybe I missed the best 45 minutes of the movie and my opinion is skewed. Or maybe I did not and I fell asleep because I was bored. I am leaning towards the latter as I did not seem to miss any major plot points.
My wife enjoyed it, and she is not a big Marvel fan like I am. And I do think that sums up GotG pretty much. They are the most "accessible" Marvel movie for non Marvel fans. The humor is universal. A funny comment is a funny comment, and I do think they relied on that whole approach a bit too much for Vol 2. Again though, that is what makes them successful so I get why they do it.
It is my least favorite Marvel Studio's franchise. But I love Marvel movies, so even my least favorite is better than a lot of movies out there these days.
I do need to watch it again to form a true opinion where I do not fall asleep.
Saw it on Saturday, thought it was much better than the first one, which I liked but have always thought was seriously overhyped. Drax is still the MVP for me and Bautista's laugh is just magic, but I thought Quill, Gamora, and Nebula were all stronger characters here than in the first movie (and in Quill's case, less obnoxious). I already liked Yondu but he damn near steals the show this time around. Ego and Mantis were great additions to the cast, and I'm glad that Kurt Russell's turn as a villain was better served than most Marvel villains are. Sean Gunn's character was oddly affecting. Yondu's death was super affecting!
The humor can be hit or miss, but I feel like the ratio here was no different than the first movie, with the hits being a little funnier. Also, the production design was fantastic. The first movie looked cheap-ish at times; in this one, everything from the sets to the makeup and costumes to the creature and planet designs were a huge improvement.
I do agree that Baby Groot feels a little too manufactured (though I laughed at Gamora having to say "Hi!" to him in the middle of the opening fight), and Rocket went from lovable asshole in the first movie to just an asshole -- which, while it may be part of the plot, doesn't make him any less obnoxious. But otherwise, I felt like this movie was much more interesting than the first one and an overall improvement.
The humor can be hit or miss, but I feel like the ratio here was no different than the first movie, with the hits being a little funnier. Also, the production design was fantastic. The first movie looked cheap-ish at times; in this one, everything from the sets to the makeup and costumes to the creature and planet designs were a huge improvement.
I do agree that Baby Groot feels a little too manufactured (though I laughed at Gamora having to say "Hi!" to him in the middle of the opening fight), and Rocket went from lovable asshole in the first movie to just an asshole -- which, while it may be part of the plot, doesn't make him any less obnoxious. But otherwise, I felt like this movie was much more interesting than the first one and an overall improvement.
MoonsaultSlayer
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So Horizon-like Guardians game when?
Dude
I disagree, of the complaints of the movie, the pacing affected with Groot isn't one. But that's just me
autumnleaf
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None of those characters will go toe-to-toe with Thanos. He'll rip the gem from Vision's head and swat Captain Marvel aside like he used to do to the original. Scarlet Witch in the comics and the movies have totally different powers, she'll pose no threat.
BronsonLee
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Also after this movie I am all in on the theory that Thanos gets fuckin backstabbed by Nebula and she ends up having the Gauntlet for the final endgame
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
In order for this to work, she'd need to REjoin with Thanos in order to backstab him.
Oh wait, he may not fully be aware of her changing sides.
Maybe Thanos sniffs if out and ends her making it even more personal for Gamora.
Your opinion literally does not matter because you slept for 45 minutes in a two hour movie.
BronsonLee
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How the fuck do you fall asleep at noon
Are you my alt
Are you my alt
Inferno313
Banned
lmao.
"I didn't really care for Catcher in the Rye. Maybe it's because I skipped Chapters 10-20? Idk."
ryutaro's mama
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I love this.
Like, I slept for most of Transformers 4 in the theatres, I don't form an opinion on it besides, I went the fuck to sleep after TJ Miller died because I was bored. I don't make an actual criticism about it, missing 45 minutes in a 2 hour story driven movie is kind of...yeah nah. Can't listen to ya opinion on that one
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