Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 |OT| Anyone can save the galaxy once - SPOILERS!

Logan's weakest scene was its finale where the girl recited that cheesy monologue word for word that she heard once earlier in the movie, turning her from a pretty believable fictional child into a cliche yak-bak that spouts "profound" things for the audience.

Similarly, the weakest part of GotG2 was Quill and Gamora's "romance" because it was "dramatic" for the audience and not because there was any reason for it to be for them. Like, who cares if he likes her? Why is that his "deepest darkest secret"? Are they five years old?

I've seen people complain about the Pete/Gamora romance and I feel I read thos scenes completely different. All their scenes together were Gunn toying with audience expectations. When Gamora talks to Pete in the woods and you think it's gonna be this emotional moment between the two of them, they drop that ridiculous story about Zardar Hasselfrau and Gomora tells him that they'll just kill Ego if he's fake. The "deepest darkest secret" bit is just a fun way to show Mantis' powers and is never really picked up again.

But the most interesting bit is the "unspoken" scene that starts off with them dancing as a call back to the first one. We see that their relationship has somewhat improved over the first and then you get that metacommentary about romances in media. It's almost like Gunn is acknowledging that there's an expectation there for two leads to get together but you can't deliver on that expectation because the tension between two fictional characters is more interesting than any potential relationship could be. I feel that this could have been way more effective if Pratt and Saldana had more on-screen chemistry but I like the idea.
 

DarthWoo

I'm glad Grandpa porked a Chinese Muslim
Why did Drax keep calling the Annulax batteries Harbulary batteries? Was it a reference to something, or was he perhaps just trying to annoy Quill?
 

y2dvd

Member
Wow all I said was Logan raised the bar and I didn't find Guardians emotional outside of being funny and some of the reactions in here is crazy.

Calm down, Guardians 2 is a fun film

Lol you started a conversation and people used your post to exand on it/disagree with you. That's how general discussion threads like this work dude.

Yeah not sure why you getting defensive at our response lol.
 
Came away disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means, but nowhere near as remarkable or even significant as the first GotG.


  • Nebula's face turn was not believable. At all. All the agony and torment she suffered from her sister goes away from a hug? I thought she was more machine than man now,
    sorry, had to go there :p
    so why would the power of love prevail? Just seemed really, really lame.
  • Starlord really... didn't do anything this movie.
  • Any shit Bautista gets is unwarranted, he was heavily relied on as a crutch for humor in this movie.
  • Kurt Russell was the highpoint of the movie because, well, he's Kurt Russell
  • No Infinity Stones
  • Nothing about Thanos

This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.
 
Came away disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means, but nowhere near as remarkable or even significant as the first GotG.


  • Nebula's face turn was not believable. At all. All the agony and torment she suffered from her sister goes away from a hug? I thought she was more machine than man now,
    sorry, had to go there :p
    so why would the power of love prevail? Just seemed really, really lame.
  • Starlord really... didn't do anything this movie.
  • Any shit Bautista gets is unwarranted, he was heavily relied on as a crutch for humor in this movie.
  • Kurt Russell was the highpoint of the movie because, well, he's Kurt Russell
  • No Infinity Stones
  • Nothing about Thanos

This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.

el oh el
 

zeemumu

Member
Came away disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means, but nowhere near as remarkable or even significant as the first GotG.


  • Nebula's face turn was not believable. At all. All the agony and torment she suffered from her sister goes away from a hug? I thought she was more machine than man now,
    sorry, had to go there :p
    so why would the power of love prevail? Just seemed really, really lame.
  • Starlord really... didn't do anything this movie.
  • Any shit Bautista gets is unwarranted, he was heavily relied on as a crutch for humor in this movie.
  • Kurt Russell was the highpoint of the movie because, well, he's Kurt Russell
  • No Infinity Stones
  • Nothing about Thanos

This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.

I don't think those last two really count as negatives. I know this is space Marvel but you don't have to be setting up Infinity War in every movie (even though they kinda did in this one, just not the part with the Infinity Stones). Besides, most of them are accounted for by this point. Doing another Guardians film with the last remaining stone would just be a rehash of the first.

There was no way Yondu could live after that breakout scene. He's too OP. I don't know why I laughed so hard at the Tazerface moments ("IT'S METAPHORICAL!" and her snickering at his name right before he dies)
 
This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.

This is one of my favorite things about the movie.
 

zeemumu

Member
So nebula is gonna be thanos' first victim in infinity war?

She's gonna go off on her own to try and kill him and then he's probably gonna (comic spoilers, maybe, I guess)
turn her into that withered husk of her former self while everyone else gets murdered in Adam Warlock's master plan then get the gauntlet and go from there.


I'm glad they finally acknowledged that whole Stan Lee watcher theory. Even if he might just be a guy the watchers hired since he apparently still needed a spacesuit. Was he referring to his Fantastic Four cameo or his Civil War cameo with the postman thing?
 
Came away disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means, but nowhere near as remarkable or even significant as the first GotG.


  • Nebula's face turn was not believable. At all. All the agony and torment she suffered from her sister goes away from a hug? I thought she was more machine than man now,
    sorry, had to go there :p
    so why would the power of love prevail? Just seemed really, really lame.
  • Starlord really... didn't do anything this movie.
  • Any shit Bautista gets is unwarranted, he was heavily relied on as a crutch for humor in this movie.
  • Kurt Russell was the highpoint of the movie because, well, he's Kurt Russell
  • No Infinity Stones
  • Nothing about Thanos

This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.

This is like the only site where I see people write about movies like this. The fuck does GotG Gaiden even mean?

Also, how can you say Starlord does nothing in the movie? The film centers around his arc most of all.
 

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
i don't know how you can even say that this DOESN'T move the MCU forward

it's certainly focused around these characters - but there are plenty of universe-building threads being created.

Thor 3 & IW will tackle the story of Thanos, GotG Vol 2 is setting the stage for the post-IW MCU.
 

RedHill

Banned
Jesus, some of you are downers. I loved the movie and found it both emotional and hilarious. The chemistry and writing was on par and the visuals were insane. I found the Ego plot line a bit predictable but it was still well done. I don't see how no infinity stones/Thanos is a negative, we're judging the movie here and those two things had nothing to do with the plot.

I' assuming we'll next see Nebula in Infinity War
 
She's gonna go off on her own to try and kill him and then he's probably gonna (comic spoilers, maybe, I guess)
turn her into that withered husk of her former self while everyone else gets murdered in Adam Warlock's master plan then get the gauntlet and go from there.


I'm glad they finally acknowledged that whole Stan Lee watcher theory. Even if he might just be a guy the watchers hired since he apparently still needed a spacesuit. Was he referring to his Fantastic Four cameo or his Civil War cameo with the postman thing?

unless there's time travel involved, the event in Civil War shouldn't have happened yet because GoTG vol 2 timeline is closer to Winter Soldier
 
Gaiden is a side story

Which makes no sense as a comparison because it directly goes after the hanging arcs from the last movie
It's a side story to the overall MCU, which is actually a nice change of pace. It felt like the conclusion to a lot of what was established in the first GOTG.
Edit: The Watchers are beyond time, right?
 

LionPride

Banned
Came away disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means, but nowhere near as remarkable or even significant as the first GotG.


  • Nebula's face turn was not believable. At all. All the agony and torment she suffered from her sister goes away from a hug? I thought she was more machine than man now,
    sorry, had to go there :p
    so why would the power of love prevail? Just seemed really, really lame.
  • Starlord really... didn't do anything this movie.
  • Any shit Bautista gets is unwarranted, he was heavily relied on as a crutch for humor in this movie.
  • Kurt Russell was the highpoint of the movie because, well, he's Kurt Russell
  • No Infinity Stones
  • Nothing about Thanos

This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.
Not every movie has to setup something further down the line. It was a movie that however, did in fact set things down the line for next year with the creation of Adam Warlock, and then told a more character driven story about Peter and Youndu along with Rocket.

Also, GotG Gaiden? The hell.
 
Came away disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means, but nowhere near as remarkable or even significant as the first GotG.


  • Nebula's face turn was not believable. At all. All the agony and torment she suffered from her sister goes away from a hug? I thought she was more machine than man now,
    sorry, had to go there :p
    so why would the power of love prevail? Just seemed really, really lame.
  • Starlord really... didn't do anything this movie.
  • Any shit Bautista gets is unwarranted, he was heavily relied on as a crutch for humor in this movie.
  • Kurt Russell was the highpoint of the movie because, well, he's Kurt Russell
  • No Infinity Stones
  • Nothing about Thanos

This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.
the best MCU movies are the ones that did not have any Infinity Gem involvement
 

Shaanyboi

Banned
Came away disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means, but nowhere near as remarkable or even significant as the first GotG.


  • Nebula's face turn was not believable. At all. All the agony and torment she suffered from her sister goes away from a hug? I thought she was more machine than man now,
    sorry, had to go there :p
    so why would the power of love prevail? Just seemed really, really lame.
  • Starlord really... didn't do anything this movie.
  • Any shit Bautista gets is unwarranted, he was heavily relied on as a crutch for humor in this movie.
  • Kurt Russell was the highpoint of the movie because, well, he's Kurt Russell
  • No Infinity Stones
  • Nothing about Thanos

This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.
This is a great parody.
 

Slayven

Member
I don't know much about comics, but something tells me the light isn't gone. Ego wasn't the source, he was just manipulating something that was already there. The light is probably the " Power Primordial", The Elder's of the universe version of The Power Cosmic. They tap into it by focusing on one all consuming goal, in this case Ego remaking life in his image.
 
Came away disappointed. Not a bad movie by any means, but nowhere near as remarkable or even significant as the first GotG.


  • Nebula's face turn was not believable. At all. All the agony and torment she suffered from her sister goes away from a hug? I thought she was more machine than man now,
    sorry, had to go there :p
    so why would the power of love prevail? Just seemed really, really lame.
  • Starlord really... didn't do anything this movie.
  • Any shit Bautista gets is unwarranted, he was heavily relied on as a crutch for humor in this movie.
  • Kurt Russell was the highpoint of the movie because, well, he's Kurt Russell
  • No Infinity Stones
  • Nothing about Thanos

This movie felt like GotG Gaiden at best, and fanfiction at worse. It really did nothing for the MCU. A shame, because as the second movie you have total freedom from spending most of your movie being dedicated to backstories, and this is what they go with.




The technology in this movie is far far far ffffaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr beyond what we can comprehend. Thanos pulled her brain out her and replaced it with technology and SHE WAS STILL HERSELF. That's something we can only dream of.

Nebula strikes me as focus. She knows who tormented her and she's focused on him. The only thing Gamora did was win and not be supportive apparently. Seems forgivable and Gamora said sorry.
 
I don't know much about comics

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Her ability allows her to feel what her subject feels. She felt Drax's pain over the loss of his wife and daughter, but the difference is, Drax is way better at hiding it.
he didn't hide it very much in the first movie.
Entirely likely that she felt the raw emotion of Drax and while he showed nothing, she showed all of the emotion he felt in that moment
i see, this makes sense. i was hoping to have seen a vision of this flashback just to see what drax went through. he was my favorite guardian in the first movie and he was reduced to even more comic relief in this movie - which is fine, a whole lot of this movie was comic relief anyway but i think drax deserves more
raw emotional
exposure
hahaha
 

zeemumu

Member
Yeah, I guess the timeline stuff is funky, but that's explicitly a reverence to Civil War. He says Federal Express.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking.

My theory is that the Watchers have somehow been sending him across time and to different universes to document events, and that cameo was just him reporting back, and that's why he shows up in the other Marvel movies that aren't MCU.
 
If it were not for the pacing issues and CGI final battle id say its better than the original. But because of both its equal imo.
Still best movies in the MCU next to Iron Man though
 
I finally saw this last night and I was blown away. I wanted to see it again tonight but I gotta wait until payday. Such an amazing blend of comedy, drama, and action.

The interactions between Rocket and Yondu were so good and I loved the characters arc that Rocket has in this movie. I was crying like a baby during Yondu's funeral.

Yondu's "I'm Mary Poppins" line gave me the biggest laugh i've had all year.

Best scene in the movie for me was when Yondu and Rocket go ham on the mutineers. The scene where the mutineers mistreat baby Groot made their deaths all the more satisfying. The shot of all the bodies falling while Mohawk Yondu and Rocket walk with swagger was just too cool.

Goddamn I loved this movie. James Gunn just raised the bar for Marvel movies and I'll be back day one for Vol. 3!
 
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