Dragon Ball Super |OT6| Put your back into it.

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If Beerus erases Frieza at the end of this arc, how do you think it'd be received?

Frieza? Gone Forever?

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Ya one more reason why i think the G black saga was unfinished and/or rushed to production



Rewatching the black arc, it really did have some cool fights in isolation. And good animation.

In isolation.

It almost tricks you cause then you remember that none of those moments seemed to really matter. All of those black and zamasu fights....just felt like repeats.
 
Rewatching the black arc, it really did have some cool fights in isolation. And good animation.

In isolation.

It almost tricks you cause then you remember that none of those moments seemed to really matter. All of those black and zamasu fights....just felt like repeats.

Well, if you think about it, that's a theme of the arc. Nothing they did mattered because in the end they lost.
 
Well, if you think about it, that's a theme of the arc. Nothing they did mattered because in the end they lost.

heh.
but even while it was happening it felt pointless.

Vegeta pummeling black like that would usually mean something in old DBZ. It had the "feel" of one of those moments. But it was kind of inconsequential.
 
After Beerus erases Freeza, he's revived from the Super Dragonballs. He also breaks out of Super Hell so there are two Freezas. One Freeza teams up with Goku and the other fights Goku. They both have no character development whatsoever.
 
As I said, I can look past the first one because it's par for the course. Everything* (mostly, Zamasu would still be around) could have ended there, but if it did we wouldn't have the rest of the saga.

It was Goku's job to seal Zamasu, not Vegeta, he should have made certain that A) he had everything he needed to do it; and B) have it all on hand before meeting Zamasu/Black.

Roshi shares the blame for forgetting the seal.

(I don't actually blame Goku for not putting the thing in a capsule, I'm just wondering why they did it different this time. Have they ever show what happens if you break a capsule with something inside?)

It may have been his "job", but he still thought Vegeta grabbed the pot. Even then, he didn't 'forget' it. He rushed out of the time machine to see if Trunks was still alive since they left him to fend off Zamasu and Black by himself. So to Goku his first order was 1) makes sure Trunks was alive. 2) grabbed the pot and prepare for battle. He didn't expect Black to appear while he was searching for Black and shoot the time machine.

Well, Tien once broke his pot practicing to seal King Piccolo.

? At least 2. Unless you're not considering Beerus a villain.

I think they mean new for Super. Beerus was created for the movie Battle of Gods and was transfer over into Super. As it stands, Zamasu and all version of him are the only new villains created for Super. I guess we could count Frost, but he wasn't a primary villain and Champa wasn't really a villain.
 
Lets get some predictions going.

- there will be an interruption and the real villain will appear. Prob the grand priest
- pride troopers will team up with z warriors (obv)
- hit will get "unexpectedly" knocked out
- gohan ssj b?
- opposite power to zen-oh will be revealed
- GoD will have to fight for some reason. Possibly due to the revealed villain
- tien will be first down
- 17 sacrifices himself
- roshi reveals some insane hidden skill

Ill leave it at these for now
 
heh.
but even while it was happening it felt pointless.

Vegeta pummeling black like that would usually mean something in old DBZ. It had the "feel" of one of those moments. But it was kind of inconsequential.

Yeah this was one of the few moments where I was loving Super and it felt like watching Z again.

Unfortunately, it gets totally shit on in the next episode when Black pulls a scythe that can make clones out of his ass and the writers are so lazy that they have Black say he doesn't know whats going on either so they add more fluff and have a halfassed excuse not to explain anything.
 
all lthese peeps hatin on my boy freeza

freeza is legit asf and hes gonna ask goku to make him a god of destruction after they win the tourny
 
I'm still hoping Jiren knocks down Goku and the weaker members of the team have to grind down an enemy none of them can beat alone. I don't see any reason why it can't happen, so that's my bet!

I've also been thinking that Jiren's going to have some powers that are more like a Western comic book hero than a Dragonball character, making this the closest thing we've had to Superman Vs. Goku. It would fit in with the arc being about how Goku isn't a hero.
 
Yeah this was one of the few moments where I was loving Super and it felt like watching Z again.

Unfortunately, it gets totally shit on in the next episode when Black pulls a scythe that can make clones out of his ass and the writers are so lazy that they have Black say he doesn't know whats going on either so they add more fluff and have a halfassed excuse not to explain anything.

That's the entire battle with Frieza until Goku went Super Saiyan. Every time the heroes get the advantage over him, nope he can transform or he was holding back a vast amount of his power.

Or how about the entire fight with Super Buu? Gotenks beat him up and his fusion broke before he could finished the job. Or Ultimate Gohan, beat Buu up, Buu just got stronger again by absorbing people. Vegito beats up Buu, throws the fight so he can rescue those who got absorbed, and they all died anyway because Kid Buu blew up the Earth.

And Black scythe wasn't an asspull since it was just an extension of his energy sword and ripping dimensions, Gotenks and Super Buu did that by screaming. The only real asspull was the endless clones.

I'm still hoping Jiren knocks down Goku and the weaker members of the team have to grind down an enemy none of them can beat alone. I don't see any reason why it can't happen, so that's my bet!

I've also been thinking that Jiren's going to have some powers that are more like a Western comic book hero than a Dragonball character, making this the closest thing we've had to Superman Vs. Goku. It would fit in with the arc being about how Goku isn't a hero.


Because Jiren isn't the only powerful fighter in the tournament.
 
I'm still hoping Jiren knocks down Goku and the weaker members of the team have to grind down an enemy none of them can beat alone. I don't see any reason why it can't happen, so that's my bet!

I've also been thinking that Jiren's going to have some powers that are more like a Western comic book hero than a Dragonball character, making this the closest thing we've had to Superman Vs. Goku. It would fit in with the arc being about how Goku isn't a hero.

His skill is that his skin turns metal. Thats as far as we know. Two figures dropped with his metal skin
 
the original Freiza arc was the coolest thing that's ever happened in the history of all media ever.

but seriously, they're bringing him back A THIRD TIME after killing him off? yeah. please. stop it. erase him.
 
the original Freiza arc was the coolest thing that's ever happened in the history of all media ever.

but seriously, they're bringing him back A THIRD TIME after killing him off? yeah. please. stop it. erase him.

Not to be that person, but it would be the second time after killing him off. He didn't die on Namek.
 
Huh?



No, man, he's like Superman. Metal skin is just one of his many unrelated powers. He's got super ventriloquism and super landscaping and shit.


Meaning it makes little sense for the entire U7 team to focus on taking down one person since they're dozen of other strong people at the tournament like Hit and Toppo.

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he was left on a planet that exploded. the only reason he didn't die is so that they could introduce Trunks like a total badass

He still didn't die. He was just defeated like Vegeta on Earth.
 
I think they mean new for Super. Beerus was created for the movie Battle of Gods and was transfer over into Super. As it stands, Zamasu and all version of him are the only new villains created for Super. I guess we could count Frost, but he wasn't a primary villain and Champa wasn't really a villain.

what about barry, the best villain of db history

 
Meaning it makes little sense for the entire U7 team to focus on taking down one person since they're dozen of other strong people at the tournament like Hit and Toppo.

I'm assuming this happens at the end, when most of the characters (including some of the strong ones) are knocked out.

what about barry, the best villain of db history

He's going to participate in the next tournament, which isn't actually a fighting tournament, it's a tournament to see who can steal the most people's wives. Barry is the sole entrant, the ringside announcer, and the host
 
That's the entire battle with Frieza until Goku went Super Saiyan. Every time the heroes get the advantage over him, nope he can transform or he was holding back a vast amount of his power.

Or how about the entire fight with Super Buu? Gotenks beat him up and his fusion broke before he could finished the job. Or Ultimate Gohan, beat Buu up, Buu just got stronger again by absorbing people. Vegito beats up Buu, throws the fight so he can rescue those who got absorbed, and they all died anyway because Kid Buu blew up the Earth.

And Black scythe wasn't an asspull since it was just an extension of his energy sword and ripping dimensions, Gotenks and Super Buu did that by screaming. The only real asspull was the endless clones.


Because Jiren isn't the only powerful fighter in the tournament.

In recent years and seeing it again, It seems like Buu really was screwing with him until Gohan came. Not to say he was stronger, but he was wasting time.

Plus didn't Gotenks say his time limit outloud?
 
Lets get some predictions going.

- there will be an interruption and the real villain will appear. Prob the grand priest
- pride troopers will team up with z warriors (obv)
- hit will get "unexpectedly" knocked out
- gohan ssj b?
- opposite power to zen-oh will be revealed
- GoD will have to fight for some reason. Possibly due to the revealed villain
- tien will be first down
- 17 sacrifices himself
- roshi reveals some insane hidden skill

Ill leave it at these for now

Gohan jobs, Vegeta gets taken out on a technicality. Tourney falls apart 30 minutes in. Zeno gets assasinated or otherwise taken out. A Universal war begins and a large big bad is revealed. Possibly, a coalition of villains.
17 heel turns.
 
In recent years and seeing it again, It seems like Buu really was screwing with him until Gohan came. Not to say he was stronger, but he was wasting time.

Plus didn't Gotenks say his time limit outloud?

He really wasn't since Buu was mad that Gotenks beat him up. He just didn't kill them after they defused since he needed them for Gohan.

what about barry, the best villain of db history

Point taken.
 
In recent years and seeing it again, It seems like Buu really was screwing with him until Gohan came. Not to say he was stronger, but he was wasting time.

Plus didn't Gotenks say his time limit outloud?


Looked to me like Gotenks was dominating the fight and could easily kill Buu and nearly does it several times, but Buu regenerates at such a ridiculous rate that he's already back at full health by the time Gotenks is done bragging.
 

Reminds me of when the video player I was using bugged out when first watching one of the episodes where Goku fought Beerus in space and it colored Goku's SSJ white, so I was wondering why no one was pointing it out (I thought it was legit as I was watching it), and when I started posting screenshots, people just thought I was joking. http://imgur.com/a/dGFDk
 
He really wasn't since Buu was mad that Gotenks beat him up. He just didn't kill them after they defused since he needed them for Gohan.



Point taken.

Looked to me like Gotenks was dominating the fight and could easily kill Buu and nearly does it several times, but Buu regenerates at such a ridiculous rate that he's already back at full health by the time Gotenks is done bragging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0lvlnMzzH8

He has a habit (super buu) of screwing around during fights to suss out the situation. At 3:06, he's faking being hurt by gohan, maybe planning his next move. Who knows.

But more notably at 7:20 gohan is beating him down like in that comic, but he's not hurt again. Gohan is obv stronger, but Buu is still screwing around.

Then comes the speech about how he sensed gohan and during the fight and from then on, all he cared about was gohan. Gotenks may even be stronger but that doesn't mean Buu wasn't screwing around with him and wasting time. He says he was waiting for Gohan the whole time, "can't let a power greater than mine exist." Whether Gotenks was stronger or not is irrelevant to Buu messing around.
 
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