Yup. In movies, cartoons and comics. It's really just a matter of convenience and you have to accept it.
Wonder Woman |OT| The World is Ready for You, Gal Gad [SPOILERS]
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Yup. In movies, cartoons and comics. It's really just a matter of convenience and you have to accept it.
Just saw it. Absolutely blown away. I'm in bliss-I loved every bit of it. Possibly my favorite CBM of all time. Tons and tons of heart, something DC has been missing.
The casting in the movie is just perfect-I loved Steve's crew.
I really hope this is the start of a new direction for DC-and I believe it's Geoff Johns steering them in the right direction.
Patty Jenkins -you are amazing. What a perfect film.
The casting in the movie is just perfect-I loved Steve's crew.
I really hope this is the start of a new direction for DC-and I believe it's Geoff Johns steering them in the right direction.
Patty Jenkins -you are amazing. What a perfect film.
BronsonLee
Member
Disco killin it'
This movie has flaws for sure but for the love of god I'm just happy we got a super endearing and likable hero. Like I like GOTG and all but it makes for a great change of pace seeing Diana simplify everything. She can help, she wants to help, she helps. Done
It was definitely about him not being white, and it would be especially true in 1918.
Marion Cobretti
Member
Chris Pine was really great in this.
I wish they would've made him the Green Lantern​.
I wish they would've made him the Green Lantern​.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'm actually surprised GL is left out of the JL roster. I guess they're still reeling from the film?
brandonh83
Banned
I'd rather swallow thumbtacks than watch Logan again. Just so damn depressing. It's well made and everything but good lord it ain't for me. I don't mind movies being gritty or having darker tones, but I found it comically dark, like it was trying so hard to push the rating as far as they could get it, and I don't think it's fair to kids that love Hugh Jackman in the role but aren't old enough to watch it.
If it were a different thing, which it kind of is, I'd be a little less hard on that but it's the same actors in the same universe and it'd be crushing to a kid that can't go see the new Wolverine because he says god damn and fuck at least 60 times per minute and titties for no reason. Yeah those kids will grow up and some parents don't care and this and that, but that's beside the point. It just rubbed me the wrong way so that movie can piss off IMO.
Valdfellgar
Banned
Just saw it with my Wife and Best Friend. Loved it. First DCEU film I've actually felt was any good. My Wife was crazy happy with it and my Best Friend liked it well enough. I had a little trouble taking Ares A.K.A Mustache Maniac seriously in the final brawl
but felt it was pretty solid otherwise, even if it didn't really need Ares to finish the movie. I would've preferred an ending without him in it to better sell the over all message, but otherwise this was great.
I'm Mustachist I guess
Corronchilejano
Member
Had the chance to see it, and this is the best sandwich made out of moldy bread they could do. The beginning and the end are pretty goofy, but the middle is a treasure.
brandonh83
Banned
I thought the beginning was great too, just most things after the gala could've been a lot better.
So I'm going with only one bun being moldy!
Nailed it, dude.
When it comes right down to it, I think the recurring problem I have with these DCEU movies is the action and other superficial stuff can go overboard with the execution most of the time and lacks a sense of discipline or polish. The village fight scene and some of beach fight are sort of an exception, but much of the other action/SFX-heavy scenes are awkwardly put together, especially near the end. At the least, I'd much rather have that than the overindulgence of Snyder's setpieces (and to a much broader degree, Michael Bay's).
Nevertheless, it's really a lot of the effort that went into the characters and their development - albeit still lacking in some respects - that holds the movie up for me. You can tell that Jenkins made that the movie's core first and foremost.
Nevertheless, it's really a lot of the effort that went into the characters and their development - albeit still lacking in some respects - that holds the movie up for me. You can tell that Jenkins made that the movie's core first and foremost.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
The best thing I took away from this movie is that if Robin Wright doesn't see herself above starring in schlock like this, then she'll hopefully return for the Unbreakable sequel.
brandonh83
Banned
Very well made, reviewed, mostly loved schlock!
Corronchilejano
Member
I thought the beginning was a beginning. I could've done without it really.
What irks me is the ending. That whole Hades shtick? Man, so much wasted potential.
"No Man's Land" had me tearing up. What a stunning scene and movie.
I love everyone and everything about this film. Diana, Steve, Etta were pitch perfect. I'm so devastated to lose Pine but they really sold it.
All I ask is for majorly more of Etta in the sequel.
I also don't at all understand the third act complaints? Diana's decision and monologue about choosing love was incredible!
I love everyone and everything about this film. Diana, Steve, Etta were pitch perfect. I'm so devastated to lose Pine but they really sold it.
All I ask is for majorly more of Etta in the sequel.
I also don't at all understand the third act complaints? Diana's decision and monologue about choosing love was incredible!
Surprised how much I enjoyed this.
I actually really liked the angle they took, where it was less about stopping Ares and more about the morality of man and how it clashes with WW's ideals. It was good.
It definitely has a few faults, but it was a pretty refreshing angle to take, more akin to Spidey 1 than the recent affairs. Where it's more about what it is to be a hero.
Basically, Jenkins CU.
I actually really liked the angle they took, where it was less about stopping Ares and more about the morality of man and how it clashes with WW's ideals. It was good.
It definitely has a few faults, but it was a pretty refreshing angle to take, more akin to Spidey 1 than the recent affairs. Where it's more about what it is to be a hero.
Basically, Jenkins CU.
Corronchilejano
Member
Diana's fine. Ares tho? What a goddamn idiot.
DAVIDHUXLEY
Member
Will it be creepy if they bring back Pine as Trevor's great great whatever for the sequel.
Schnozberry
Member
Green Lantern should be Idris Elba as John Stewart. Ryan Reynolds already torpedoed Hal Jordan.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
Member
yup i feel the same thing
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
Maybe they'll just winter soldier him and have him back with a metal arm or something
Yes.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Wonder Woman's No Man's Land scene was definitely a high point of the film - which is sad because I've seen a more rousing and better shot sequence starring a horse in a middling Spielberg film.
I just thank God there was no Frank Miller Wonder Woman story for Snyder to wanna adapt.
I mean is the joke hinged on his befuddlement at gender roles in a new society?
Corronchilejano
Member
I said the Hades shtick because Ares was basically following what Hades did in Hercules: He hated the main character and wanted to see him fall so badly he made some mistakes along the way.
Ares however, had no reason to fight Diana one to one. When Diana killed general ComicBookVillain he could've just watched her realize how human beings where basically war hungry by themselves and leave it at that, then keep on feeding her hatred. You know, set up another movie later.
But they needed their big bad guy so of course he has to go all CGI on us. I mean, it wasn't that bad
but it was bad
But that's just my two drachmas. The movie is great anyway.
Ego was fantastic.
Though I thought Zod has been the best of the bunch so far. Not saying much, but Shannon sold it, despite the God-awful dialogue in Man of Steel.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
People seem to have convinced themselves Zod and Jesse Eisenberg's Luthor were good villains and the actors just "knew how to have fun."
CMojicaAce
Member
I seriously want to see this movie again in theaters. The crowd I was with was great.
That No Man's Land scene too...chills!
That No Man's Land scene too...chills!
Discotheque
Banned
Zod is the best villain either cinematic universe has had. It's not a high bar taking that tbh but Shannon really went all in on such a two dimensional character. Man can do rage and conviction to the point of hilarity so well.
broncobuster
Banned
Yep. It was nice and refreshing to have a true north superhero movie. I really like my mean Logan and BvS movies. I like the odd Marvel Studios snark and sarcasm fare, and I'd throw Deadpool in there. But that classical heroism feel to Wonder Woman was something I missed. And I really did love how standalone the movie was.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
He wasn't much of a presence, but for some reason the only villain I remember not disliking in either of these cinematic universes is Redford in Winter Soldier.
"I will find him" and the farm quote immediately come to mind lol
Corronchilejano
Member
Shannon knew that you either fold or go all in. I really appreciated his acting.
BronsonLee
Member
Now that was a sneak fuck villain right there
The dude that got the closest to ending the world/activating his plan? Just a dude.
So what's the deal with Huston? I actually assumed Ares took both his form AND Thewlis' to play both sides of the conflict, but I'm reading now he has no relation to Ares whatsoever. What? That seems crazy to me- he's incredibly invested in the war continuing, doesn't if he wipes out both sides, knows Ancient Greek, has that one off line where he significantly hints he has intimate knowledge of the gods, takes a weird gas to REGAIN his strength- not enhance it- as it noted in the dialogue, and clearly holds his own in a fight vs. WW.
DecoReturns
Member
Just a horrible human being.
Earthanoid
Member
I don't see how Wonder Woman has more of an impact. WW1 is about to end anyway and arguably its Steve Trevor that actually prevents the war from continuing by sacrificing himself to stop the secret super weapon; Wonder Woman is focused on fighting Ares and actually refuses to help Steve once she has her realization that people inherently suck. Steve and his crew get to the plane and steal it without Wonder Woman's help. Sure, Wonder Woman saves all the soldiers in the one trench and the village, but the bad guys gas it and kill everyone anyway. Wonder Woman's main contribution is getting Steve to the secret base faster by cutting through No Man's Land. On the other hand, Cap blows up all the Hydra bases and is the one that sacrifices himself to stop the secret super weapon from destroying the east coast.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the movie. The difference is in how it is executed; the No Man's Land sequence and the following "dance" scene in the town are well done and had a much more personal feel than the rather crappy montage you get in Cap 1.
Really, with a minor amount of editing the movie could have been called Steve Trevor (featuring Wonder Woman). Trevor carries a lot of the movie.
broncobuster
Banned
I did like the idea behind his Zod. Being born and bred into a very specific military lifestyle. Protecting Krypton at all costs. Like, in universe he's a two dimensional character.
And technically he wasn't that wrong during the Krypton scenes of MoS. The council helped destroy Krypton by excavating the planet and wrecking the atmosphere. Zod's coup was to wrestle command away from them. But he was a prick about it and wanted destroy bloodlines he didn't agree with.
But ultimately? he's fine.
Just an evil general being manipulated by Ares but driven by his own war-mongering ambition. As far as regaining his strength, he's a hunched over old man. I'm sure he'd like to be strong again.
Discotheque
Banned
The no man's land scene is exactly what I'm talking about. She's in the trenches, she sees their plight. Makes a big push against the enemy, rallies the troops, helps take the town and then is celebrating amongst the people shortly afterward
She felt like a much more tangible part of the war than cap did in his movie. Though granted I don't really wanna ever watch that movie again so if I'm off the mark on this comparison I'll take ppls word for it. But I damn sure don't recall his ww2 scenes being framed this impactful to those around him
She felt like a much more tangible part of the war than cap did in his movie. Though granted I don't really wanna ever watch that movie again so if I'm off the mark on this comparison I'll take ppls word for it. But I damn sure don't recall his ww2 scenes being framed this impactful to those around him
Bane was the last CBM villain for me who felt like he had a real presence in the movie as an antagonist.
Shannon Zod was mostly whining for 90% of MOS.
It's a shame, because I liked how Ares was put together motivationally for WW, albeit very briefly.
Shannon Zod was mostly whining for 90% of MOS.
It's a shame, because I liked how Ares was put together motivationally for WW, albeit very briefly.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I feel like for guys it's like John Wick 2 thing, where they are choosing guns on a rack and stroke them lovingly. It's like macho tech lust. Guns, cars, gadgets.
Did they have a scene where Captain America is confused about the types of clothes people wear in the 21st century? I can't remember.
Huh, I don't remember Luthor being in these films.
I just remember Eisenberg playing Edward Nygma.
Has men's fashion and role in society changed much since the 1940's? People still wear leather jackets, button-up collared shirts, and khakis. People still go to work. There are still wars overseas. At most, he's probably weirded out by hipsters.Did they have a scene where Captain America is confused about the types of clothes people wear in the 21st century? I can't remember.
I mean even Thor was aware of Earth and knows how a shirt works.