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A lot of people think that Cualifla's SS was rushed and poorly executed.
That's because SS is nothing these days.
Wait until she is fighting at the tournament and owned by Vegeta and then suddenly awakens a new god form.
This girl will be bigger than life, probably top 2 overall behind Vegeta.
 
I was skeptical, but too much evidence has piled up confirming the leaks, so in pretty confident its real. With that said
I think its for the best. We gave Buu an awesome fight, and a nice scene with Goku and Satan. With Freeza defecting, and Yamcha joining, we get a two for one.

We can still have Freeza storylines but also what im reaaasly excited for: The original z-Warriors are back as a team- Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, Roshi, Tien

Edit: official scan dropped, im not sure if it matches the leak yet
 
Okay, we need to drop this whole "Z warriors" thingy. It's silly and makes no sense.

Also if Our Lord and Saviour Yamcha is in He shall be one the last "standing" warriors by virtue of being insta-curbstomped into his signature pose by some random weakling from another Universe. Since Goku vs Jiren will end in a tie (due to time running out), U7 will still have 2 warriors inside the arena.

#YamchaEffect
 
I was skeptical, but too much evidence has piled up confirming the leaks, so in pretty confident its real. With that said
I think its for the best. We gave Buu an awesome fight, and a nice scene with Goku and Satan. With Freeza defecting, and Yamcha joining, we get a two for one.

We can still have Freeza storylines but also what im reaaasly excited for: The original z-Warriors are back as a team- Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, Roshi, Tien

Edit: official scan dropped, im not sure if it matches the leak yet

It doesn't, titles are different but the leaks claim the thing happens after this batch of episodes so who knows
 
I was skeptical, but too much evidence has piled up confirming the leaks, so in pretty confident its real. With that said
I think its for the best. We gave Buu an awesome fight, and a nice scene with Goku and Satan. With Freeza defecting, and Yamcha joining, we get a two for one.

We can still have Freeza storylines but also what im reaaasly excited for: The original z-Warriors are back as a team- Goku, Krillin, Yamcha, Roshi, Tien

Edit: official scan dropped, im not sure if it matches the leak yet

The official title for 95 is completely different from the leak, the descriptions are different
, leak says Goku and Freeza struggle against the assassins, official says Freeza is mercilessly slaughtering the assassins and then finally there is the Freeza art on the official site that is hiding in the files, waiting to replace Buu's art. Nobody has been able to find any hidden Yamcha art either, and yet the Freeza art has been sitting on the site since March.
The leak could still be real, but honestly I'd say it has more going against it.

EDIT: Someone asked Toshio about this whole thing and his reply was
The internet is full of lies
Be careful!

Not really a 100% confirmation that the leak is fake, mind you, but an interesting reply nonetheless.
 
The official title for 95 is completely different from the leak, the descriptions are different
, leak says Goku and Freeza struggle against the assassins, official says Freeza is mercilessly slaughtering the assassins and then finally there is the Freeza art on the official site that is hiding in the files, waiting to replace Buu's art. Nobody has been able to find any hidden Yamcha art either, and yet the Freeza art has been sitting on the site since March.
The leak could still be real, but honestly I'd say it has more going against it.

EDIT: Someone asked Toshio about this whole thing and his reply was
The internet is full of lies
Be careful!

Not really a 100% confirmation that the leak is fake, mind you, but an interesting reply nonetheless.

I think that is the one other thing keeping me from believing the leaks. There is no other picture besides Frieza. Unless they plan to upload at the last minute, but I find that odd when they had that Frieza picture sitting unused since March and Frieza wasn't even mentioned as a team member until the end of May. Meaning, that picture has been there for two months.

The one thing that is keeping this rumor leak in the 40% range for me is
Yamcha's actor doing voice work. Which could mean that they could be cutting back and forward from the tournament to Yamcha if he isn't part of it. Which I hope that isn't the case since cutting from a tournament to fight so something unrelated was the worst part of Z filler, especially on Namek.
 
Wouldn't the website files point against that?

There has been media that's been leaked or revealed early, and then gets changed. For example when it looked like Jiren at the pre-matches but it was changed to Toppo. There are countless other examples that I am not going to search for.

It's also possible his official art has nothing to do with the u7 line up art. Im kind of playing devils advocate, but I'm still on the side that thinks the leaks are possible.

The official title for 95 is completely different from the leak, the descriptions are different
, leak says Goku and Freeza struggle against the assassins, official says Freeza is mercilessly slaughtering the assassins and then finally there is the Freeza art on the official site that is hiding in the files, waiting to replace Buu's art. Nobody has been able to find any hidden Yamcha art either, and yet the Freeza art has been sitting on the site since March.
The leak could still be real, but honestly I'd say it has more going against it.

EDIT: Someone asked Toshio about this whole thing and his reply was
The internet is full of lies
Be careful!

Not really a 100% confirmation that the leak is fake, mind you, but an interesting reply nonetheless.

Obv tons of stuff working against the leaks, but theres stuff working for it too. I'm still 50/50. Also I think Toshio was just trolling with that tweet, doesn't confirm or deny anything. If anything, it'd be in his or anyone who works for Toei's interest to deny the leaks. Like I said, I'm just trying to give a different perspective to this.
 
I love him, but I can't believe we're talking this much about whether or not Yamcha is being included in the team for the current Dragon Ball arc in 2017 :)
 
Can you list the staff listing here? I don't think that is really a spoiler.

#94 - Yuichi Karasawa
#95 - Yui Kinoshita & Naoki Tate
#96 - Hiroyuki Itai
#97 - Yukihiro Kitano & Hirotaka Nii
#98 - Masahiro Shimanuki

Karasawa is finally back, he's been missing since December.
 
Official staff listings are out, leak was fake.

I dont know about that. The magazines get staff names wrong all the time. Also, the "leaker" would have had to perfectly guessed the episode 97 title.

Edit: Last week the magazines said it was supposed to be Tsutomo Ono and Yukihiro Kitano animating but it was Ono and Manabe
 
I dont know about that. The magazines get staff names wrong all the time. Also, the "leaker" would have had to perfectly guessed the episode 97 title.

Edit: Last week the magazines said it was supposed to be Tsutomo Ono and Yukihiro Kitano animating but it was Ono and Manabe

The episode titles and descriptions are different, and this is where the leaker supposedly got his info.
It also wasn't just the supervisors it got wrong, it was the staff in general.
 
I'm still holding out for
Future Trunks
. I wish Goku would have brought him up from the beginning and would make so much sense given the spoiler leaks.

Are 19/20 & 16 the only Z characters that haven't made a cameo or mention yet in Super?
 
Practice work from an animator;
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https://twitter.com/truebard/status/871863314426363905

95's staff is very interesting, so we got Tate who's going to have 9 weeks between episodes as well as Wanpack studio backing him up, Shida is providing the storyboard, something he hasn't done in ages, and finally we have a new writer, Yamaguchi Hiroshi, a man who has worked on a ton of anime, including Gurren Lagann and Neon Genesis.
 
The episode titles and descriptions are different, and this is where the leaker supposedly got his info.
It also wasn't just the supervisors it got wrong, it was the staff in general.

Everything I'm seeing shows that some things were right and some things were wrong. I can't read japanese so I don't know, I'm just reporting what I'm seeing from people that are usually credible

Edit: messed up a word
 
It also seems odd Yamcha's VA would not only say he recorded a lot of Yamcha stuff but that he couldn't reveal the details of it......

Either way
on the team or not
I think good Yamcha stuff is on its way
 
Everything I'm seeing shows that some things were right and some things were right. I can't read japanese so I don't know, I'm just reporting what I'm seeing from people that are usually credible

The name for 97 is similar, but not the same, and they got one of the supervisors for 97 right. Everything else was wrong pretty much.
 
I'm still holding out for
Future Trunks
. I wish Goku would have brought him up from the beginning and would make so much sense given the spoiler leaks.

Are 19/20 & 16 the only Z characters that haven't made a cameo or mention yet in Super?

Perhaps you forgot the last arc but mortals use of time travel was one of Zamasu's gripes. Beerus even said he should destroy everyone for committing the sin of time travel. I'm pretty sure Zeno, the Grand Priest and the other angels and GoDs are on the same page on that point.
 
The name for 97 is similar, but not the same, and they got one of the supervisors for 97 right. Everything else was wrong pretty much.

I wouldnt say everything. At least half of the leak cant be confirmed or denied yet. And for whats been released, its too early to trust the magazine since they arent that credible. For whats left, he got some right and some wrong.

My best guess with what we have at the moment is he had access to legit info, and then filled it in with fake info.

He got some staff, titles, descriptions, # of episode all right. What got wrong could be explained by the info not being finalized when the leaker gained access to it.

Its still possible its real IMO. Im 50/50 still.
 
Practice work from an animator;
DBl7DZaUQAAf5M7.jpg

https://twitter.com/truebard/status/871863314426363905

95's staff is very interesting, so we got Tate who's going to have 9 weeks between episodes as well as Wanpack studio backing him up, Shida is providing the storyboard, something he hasn't done in ages, and finally we have a new writer, Yamaguchi Hiroshi, a man who has worked on a ton of anime, including Gurren Lagann and Neon Genesis.


I am interested in the new writer. If he's even closed to King Ryu and Tomioka Atsuhiro, we should get some great writing this arc.
 
Leaks not confirmed fake. Still too much unconfirmed/not debunked.

edit:

At the moment:

At Best: The leaker had access to early information, where some of it was changed prior to these official scans

At Worst: The guy had access to a very minor amount of official information, and then filled it with fake info.
 
Can someone post the episode titles, please?

Episode 94: The Emperor of Evil's Resurrection!
A greeting from mysterious assassins!?

Episode 95: The worst! The most despicable!
Freeza's Rampage!!

Episode 96: The time has come! Taking the fate of the Universe to the Void World!

Episode 97: Survive! The Tournament of Power finally begins!

Episode 98: Subtitle TBA
 
Leaks not confirmed fake. Still too much unconfirmed/not debunked.

edit:

At the moment:

At Best: The leaker had access to early information, where some of it was changed prior to these official scans

At Worst: The guy had access to a very minor amount of official information, and then filled it with fake info.

Or he just guessed that the tournament would start on 97 like a lot of people and got lucky with a similar title. He got way more wrong than he got right.
 
An update, these are the official titles, special thanks to SansrivaaL on Kanzenshuu:

94
The evil emperors resurrection! the mysterious assassins greeting!?

95
The worst! The despicable! Freeza goes on a rampage!

96
The time has come! The fate of the universe on the line, on to the World of Void

97
Survive! Finally the curtain of the tournament rises!

So yeah, don't match except for getting the tournament right at Episode 97.
 
An update, these are the official titles, special thanks to SansrivaaL on Kanzenshuu:

94
The evil emperors resurrection! the mysterious assassins greeting!?

95
The worst! The despicable! Freeza goes on a rampage!

96
The time has come! The fate of the universe on the line, on to the World of Void

97
Survive! Finally the curtain of the tournament rises!

So yeah, don't match except for getting the tournament right at Episode 97.

So this is where we're at-

What can be confirmed/debunked:

# of episodes - Due to the specific timing of when episodes and magazines dropped, you'd have to think this through extremely deep to fake this

Titles - Getting 97 exact is wayyy too coincidental. This is why I think the leaker had real info and maybe it got changed by the time it officially dropped. There's precedent for things being changed literally the day before an episode releases.

Staff - We have some info supporting the leak, and some discrediting it. Neither source is fully credible for this situation.

Descriptions - I don't believe that the description that was dropped is so different for anyone to say that it disproves the leak.

What it boils down to - It's still 50/50 in my book.

If you disagree that's fine.
 
I'm guessing Frieza is going to go on a
killing rampage or something, because if he just kills assassins sent to kill him then it's not really villainous. Hell that's almost a good thing.
 
So this is where we're at-

What can be confirmed/debunked:

# of episodes - Due to the specific timing of when episodes and magazines dropped, you'd have to think this through extremely deep to fake this

Titles - Getting 97 exact is wayyy too coincidental. This is why I think the leaker had real info and maybe it got changed by the time it officially dropped. There's precedent for things being changed literally the day before an episode releases.

Staff - We have some info supporting the leak, and some discrediting it. Neither source is fully credible for this situation.

Descriptions - I don't believe that the description that was dropped is so different for anyone to say that it disproves the leak.

What it boils down to - It's still 50/50 in my book.

If you disagree that's fine.
Stop saying the rumor got 97's title exactly right, it didn't, it's different.
Most of the staff in the rumor was wrong, not just some.
96's Official listing is completely different from the rumor.

The rumor was supposedly from Newtype, we got Newtype now and what it said is completely different. If there is any truth to the rumor then someone got their hands on the listings right before anyone else and decided to play with people by posting fake listings online that are somewhat similar.
 
True leaks or false leaks, the tournament proper probably isn't starting until next month. Which is what some of us thought last month about this month. Feels bad man.
 
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