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Sony E3 Conference confirmed for usual time (Monday 6pm PT)

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I can say that beyond a doubt that Fromsoft is not currently developing nor planning a Bloodborne Sequel or specifically any kind of Bloodborne successor. Like, beyond any doubt. This was confirmed by Miyazaki in 2016 and reiterated in early 2017 along with being independantly confirmed to me.
I'm not a sony insider so I've no information on what Sony Japan may or may not be doing with the IP. I just know for a fact Fromsoft isn't involved with any such title.

Everything else I post is vague out of respect for my source and their job.

That and I don't have all that much to go on anyway.

Your source must have an important position for you to know this so confidently. It is not uncommon for people in a studio or company to not know everything , especially during early stages.
 
Didn't even think of them doing it like that, could be a good little way to bait people, no dates for anything until right at the end, can already see all the "Sony announce things too early" posts as they keep not saying it for everything, then bam!.

Yep, it would be a really cool way to just give that extra "one more thing" sort of feeling. The games without dates just had the Kingdom Hearts-style "in development" statement, but Horizon, Last Guardian and I think GT Sport (could be wrong about that one) had their dates on there.
 
Public info that I thought your source backed up? Sure they say they art working on anything but when has anyone making a game for Sony just spilled the beans in a routine PR interview.

Let us also not forget that Miyazaki is a man who claimed he wanted to work with a "lighter tone" in an interview back before Bloodborne was revealed.
 
Public info that I thought your source backed up? Sure they say they art working on anything but when has anyone making a game for Sony just spilled the beans in a routine PR interview.
Correct.
But why bring it up at all in an interview without being asked? Fromsoft is working on 3 major games seemingly in full development right now
They don't have the man power to work on a fourth.
And no Sony Japan didn't Co-Develop Bloodborne.
None of the three major titles they're currently working on are "souls" games. But one is a new IP ARPG.
That's not to say Bloodborne 2 will never be a possibility. That's to say im entirely sure that right now its not in the cards, for numerous reasons ive spoken about before.
 
I am betting on a really big reveal that the early teasers suggested - and then the lid has been shut. Question is what it is.
 
After LBP3 i dont think we will see that IP again for a while.

While I do think Sony mishandled 3's development and rushed it out way too early, two things...

- LBP has always been a stealth money maker. The franchise rakes it in through DLC. While 3 was hardly a smash hit, I'm willing to bet it made enough money for Sony to still be invested in the franchise.

- There's way less heat on the PS4 now than there was back in fall 2014 when Sony felt compelled to put out an exclusive for the holiday season. If 4 is in the works, there's probably less pressure on the team to hurry out a game in a specific release window. 4 could quite easily be an improvement on its predecessor.

I wonder if they come back around and try that f2p LBP idea that got turned into LBP3

I doubt Sony is keen on doing anything f2p after what transpired with San Diego.

If they were gonna keep lbp and ride it's name more they would've called Dreams, lbp:Dreams are something. They're moving on

MediaMolecule have moved on, sure. I don't see why Dreams and LBP can coexist though.
 
Let us also not forget that Miyazaki is a man who claimed he wanted to work with a "lighter tone" in an interview back before Bloodborne was revealed.

Really? Just curious but do you remember how long before the reveal it was when he said that?

Correct.
But why bring it up at all in an interview without being asked? Fromsoft is working on 3 major games seemingly in full development right now
They don't have the man power to work on a fourth.
And no Sony Japan didn't Co-Develop Bloodborne.
None of the three major titles they're currently working on are "souls" games. But one is a new IP ARPG.
That's not to say Bloodborne 2 will never be a possibility. That's to say im entirely sure that right now its not in the cards, for numerous reasons ive spoken about before.

Doesn't he say that 1 of those 3 games is basically something his fans have come to expect from them? Unless you know more about this game then u have stated how do you know it's not some type of spiritual successor?

I don't think we will see a bb2 or an exclusive From game this e3 but to know for sure that it's not being planned like u have said is a pretty bold statement.
 
I kind of wonder if Insomniac is making another game for Microsoft. Microsoft certainly needs exclusive software. And isn't Insomniac a 3 team studio?
 
What are the thoughts on seeing something like Shenmue HD being announced?
Shenmue III was announced at a Sony conference, so I'm hoping that it's a possibility.
 
Hmm psx maybe? Or 2018 at best insomniac are super efficient but damn that would be mad quick

They are and i could see it at psx. Im honestly at a loss as to what to expect from sony but im excited.

I already have crash uncharted and everyone golf preordered. I still hope detroit makes it this year, and ecstatic for gow and spiderman release dates and more footage of days gone... everything else annonced is icing on the cake
 
I kind of wonder if Insomniac is making another game for Microsoft. Microsoft certainly needs exclusive software. And isn't Insomniac a 3 team studio?

I don't think they work like that (3 structured teams), but more like they just build the team based on the size of the project, I remember them saying Spider-Man has their biggest team ever at least.
Possible though, do they have anymore VR games yet to release? I imagine that's a pretty sizeable team.
 
They basically said they'd do another sunset overdrive but it's up to Microsoft or they'd find another way

They own the IP right? I wonder if MS doesn't doesn't want to publish it could that allow insomniac to make the mage without MS if they find a different publisher ? I guess that is what Insomniac meant when they say "find another way."
 
What are the thoughts on seeing something like Shenmue HD being announced?
Shenmue III was announced at a Sony conference, so I'm hoping that it's a possibility.

Can see it happening for sure. Sony announced Grim Fandango HD on their stage back in 2014, and that game is a lot less prolific than Shenmue, so I see no reason as to why Sony wouldn't devote some stage time to a HD collection trailer.
 
Any other 2nd party collabs that could be announced?

Is it still believed Hideaki Itsuno is working on Deep Down?

Possible Hideki Kamiya/Platinum game? Would it even be possible to save Scalebound?
 
Can see it happening for sure. Sony announced Grim Fandango HD on their stage back in 2014, and that game is a lot less prolific than Shenmue, so I see no reason as to why Sony wouldn't devote some stage time to a HD collection trailer.

That was at PSX though, which I feel would make more sense for a Shenmue collection as well. I don't think they'll announce it at E3 unless it comes with a Shenmue III demo or something to that extent.
 
That was at PSX though, which I feel would make more sense for a Shenmue collection as well. I don't think they'll announce it at E3 unless it comes with a Shenmue III demo or something to that extent.

No, Grim Fandango HD debuted at E3. There's no debating this, I remember vividly. It was my megaton of the show.
 
They own the IP right? I wonder if MS doesn't doesn't want to publish it could that allow insomniac to make the mage without MS if they find a different publisher ? I guess that is what Insomniac meant when they say "find another way."

MS probably have first rights of refusal and Insomniac need MS to say no before anyone else can Publish a sequel. I doubt they've asked yet considering how much they've announced/released since SSO though.
 
Spider will have 3 movies in this partnership Sony x Marvel, no?! So, I really doubt we'll have a single game of Spider coming from Insomniac.
 
Doesn't he say that 1 of those 3 games is basically something his fans have come to expect from them? Unless you know more about this game then u he stated how do you know it's not some type of spiritual successor?

I don't think we will see a bb2 or an exclusive From game this e3 but to know for sure that it's not being planned like u have said is a pretty bold statement.

Which is pretty much what I've talked about in this thread.
A Dark Fantasy ARPG that's very much Fromsoft. Which is what you'd come to expect from Fromsoft and none of that is anything new.
That title is not a "souls" game, it's a new IP.
It depends on what your definition of spiritual successor.
If you mean that it's like Demon Souls to Dark Souls then no, its not that. At least in how its been described to me
If you mean its like Kings Field to the souls series, that may be a comparison that's a bit more apt if maybe a bit extreme.
What a lot of people don't really seem to understand is, Fromsoft has been around a very long time, they've made plenty of games in many different genres and styles outside of the Souls games and they can very much survive without them.

What Miyazaki said himself was that (Paraphrasing): Fromsoft currently plans not to continue making any more souls games, this includes Bloodborne. This was stated twice over the past year. That doesn't mean that they're wont ever be more, and he's open to the idea in the future but as of right now, there are no plans for anything of the sort.

In addition to that we know that: Fromsoft is working on 3 games as of right now.
A Dark Fantasy ARPG that's a new IP (Which is what I've been talking about and the only thing I've asked any questions about)
A weird game, we can deduce that this isn't an ARPG though since it was specified seperately, or at the very least we can deduce it wont be similar to the ARPG above
and Armored Core, which is well, Armored Core.

Miyazaki has also said that himself and Fromsoft are interested in working onnew projects. This is likely why Fromsoft isn't working on any sequels to the souls games, they've been developing them for a decade now and likely want to expand and experiment with their talents.

If you check Fromsoft's dev cycle, you can see that each souls game takes about 3 years to create, but keep in mind that they're all very similar games running on variations of the same engine with a similar structure and gameplay systems. Along with the sharing of assets between Dark Souls 3 an Bloodborne, developing these games probably comes relatively easy to them. But now that we know they're moving away from that, the dev cycle might take longer.

Since the release of Demon Souls, From's only other major titles have been Dark Souls and its sequels and Bloodborne, a spin off. But they have also developed smaller games with other publishers.

Fromsoft currently has an employee number of 260 people. If we assume the average dev team for a major development is about 80 people, that's about 3 teams for 3 major games. We already know that Fromsoft is working on 3 games.

We also know that Fromsoft's release to announcement schedule is about 10 months. So in the hypothetical event that any of the games they're currently working on is due to be revealed this E3, it would be released roughly next spring. If I'm to be believed and that there won't be a reveal this year, the reveal will be in 2018 and have a subsequent release in 2019.

If Fromsoft only puts out one game per year out of the 3 they're currently working on starting in 2018 for a hypothetical armored core reveal this year. That means that there won't be space for another major game to enter development or even the planning phase until one of those games' development dies down.

And that's assuming that Fromsoft's interest in continuing the souls series suddenly reignites. Which, I think would be far fetched as of right now. In another 5-6 years? More likely.

But also remember that even if it were to enter development next year, the game would at the bare minimum not be out until about 2020,2021 and probably on the PS5.
There are other reasons I have confidence, but I can't talk about those things publically. You're free to not believe my assesment and have some skepticism or to believe this is all BS. But I have confidence in that assesement for a reason.
 
Speaking of which. I would love them to announce a Curse of Monkey Island HD AT E3

That would be amazing. One of my all-time favourite adventure games, but it's been years since I last played it. Would love to see it make a comeback of sorts.

best Monkey Island game
 
Can see it happening for sure. Sony announced Grim Fandango HD on their stage back in 2014, and that game is a lot less prolific than Shenmue, so I see no reason as to why Sony wouldn't devote some stage time to a HD collection trailer.
Thanks for the insight. Here's hoping!
 
If that's the real Scorpio price, Sony won't have any pressure on them.

The entire conference could just be Layden making out with a Spider-Man cosplayer who's hanging upside-down from the rafters.
 
Spider will have 3 movies in this partnership Sony x Marvel, no?! So, I really doubt we'll have a single game of Spider coming from Insomniac.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2016-06-15-spider-man-leads-marvels-epic-new-console-strategy

"We've had a long history of success with Activision, and we still have a great relationship with them," Ong said. "But the future of the Spider-Man console games is with Sony and Insomniac. We're delighted about this partnership, and that's something that's going to continue forward."
 
If that's the real Scorpio price, Sony won't have any pressure on them.

The entire conference could just be Layden making out with a Spider-Man cosplayer who's hanging upside-down from the rafters.

And then the mask gets pulled all the way down and Kaz is revealed.
 
If that's the real Scorpio price, Sony won't have any pressure on them.

The entire conference could just be Layden making out with a Spider-Man cosplayer who's hanging upside-down from the rafters.

Layden must be wearing a full Crash costume whilst doing it though, with Shu driving in circles in a go-kart.
 
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