Shooting at GOP baseball practice, multiple injured incl/ Maj. Whip Scalise

You DO realize more than Congresspersons were hit, right? Or are we going to go with, "Meh, they should have known better than to be near the GOP members?"

I didn't say anything beyond agreeing with the gist of his post. Why draw any other conclusions? Violence isn't what I want or agree with as a reaction to the political trashfire we have.
 
I agree with you wholeheartedly. What many of us are saying is that this type of backlash should not be surprising when you have a party that has systemically dismantled the social safety net and vociferously opposes any legislation to restore it. Eventually some are gonna snap, especially those not in the ruling class, who are protected from these economic troubles.

It's horrible and ineffective. Yes, we need to vote, but backlash like this should not be surprising. Again, explaining is not condoning it.

And that's ok. I understand that, in fact I expected something like this way sooner. I just objected to the marginalization of the holocaust that started in this thread. Shit is bad enough for enough people without shitting on the victims of the NAZI regime.
 
Man I didn't need to see this waking up. This one incident will make the right-wing say 'So much for the tolerant left' but still ignore the gun control issue. Trump speaking about this is the worst. 2018 can't come any sooner. I'm just glad no one died.
 
The thought of what will spew from 45s piehole terrifies me. Probably going to tell all supporters to gear up.

He's so quick to jump on this, yet still never said a word regarding those two brave men killed in Portland.

It took him entirely too long, but untrue. He did comment on it.
 
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https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/875005720760070145

And so it begins
 
Perfectly normal to be worried of the repercussions this could have in this policial climate. Doesnt mean you dont feel for the victims.

America is numb to shootings at this point. Within two weeks, the news coverage will be back to Trump and Russia.
 
I like how he addresses the nation for this but not for our Oregon heros defending minorities against a white terrorist.

Oh, and they gave their lives.
 
Democrats are getting blamed... SHOCKING!

Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) on Wednesday linked the political rhetoric of Democrats to the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va.

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."
 
Amazing two people are killed trying to stand up to white nationalist and the most Trump could muster is a tweet from the POTUS handle. For this he is running out to make a televised statement.
 
Democrats are getting blamed... SHOCKING!

Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) on Wednesday linked the political rhetoric of Democrats to the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va.

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."

Expect this shit to be reinforced big time all over right wing media.
 
I've always maintained that extremists on the Left (my "side", I guess) bother me far more than extremists on the Right, mostly because they muddy our waters more than extremists on the other side do.
 
Trump shouldn't say anything.

The only thing he can do is inflame the situation with his divisive political bullshit.

His press release was fine by itself, even if he didn't write it. That's all he needs to do.

Obviously Trump wants to do that to get people talking about anything else besides the investigations. And yes obviously the investigations still continue, but what everyone is missing is that Trump's public support needs to be as close to zero as possible before the results of the investigation come out. The lower his support, the less likely Fox News and the GOP will be to defend Trump and the more likely it is that some actual consequence will come to Trump.
 
Democrats are getting blamed... SHOCKING!

Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) on Wednesday linked the political rhetoric of Democrats to the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va.

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."

Tone down the retoric????

Bahahahahahaha, how fucking rich.
 
Democrats are getting blamed... SHOCKING!

Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) on Wednesday linked the political rhetoric of Democrats to the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va.

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."

And here we go. This is what worries me. I hope the Democrats do not tone down the rhetoric. A strong condemnation of the attack is enough.
 
Democrats are getting blamed... SHOCKING!

Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) on Wednesday linked the political rhetoric of Democrats to the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va.

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."
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Yeah well. Go read a book, kiddo. Or talk to some of those privileged white cisgendered jews still alive who survived this literal hell on earth. When they were children. Like my granddad for example. I'd give you his AOL address, but he died 10 years ago from brain cancer, madly raving in his last moments about how his mother was dust in the air.

That evil, evil, white cisgendered oppressor.

I mean, I personally disagree with condoning this attack, and your passion is raw and real and so is your point, but jews don't have a monopoly on historical institutionalized racially motivated violence and oppression. The Nazis are also a failed ideology whereas what happened in America not only fails to die but has remained such an effective undercurrent in politics and social structure it's enabled a Presidency many felt could never happen even as recently as November 7th, 2016.

The reality is of course that things are about to get much worse for all of us in less than an hour.
 
Amazing two people are killed trying to stand up to white nationalist and the most Trump could muster is a tweet from the POTUS handle. For this he is running out to make a televised statement.
I mean however you feel about all of this, today was an attack on the leadership of the ruling political party. That's kind of an important contextual detail.
 
I've always maintained that extremists on the Left (my "side", I guess) bother me far more than extremists on the Right, mostly because they muddy our waters more than extremists on the other side do.

Fucking nonsense. Right wing extremists shot Gabby Giffords and killed a bunch of other people in that shooting and the recent abortion clinic shooting, among others.
 
Democrats are getting blamed... SHOCKING!

Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) on Wednesday linked the political rhetoric of Democrats to the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va.

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."

lol, ask me why this asshole getting shot is supposed to matter? who gives a fuck. fuck hm and fuck his.
 
What about them speaking out when those 50 nightclub kids that died? Don't remember them speaking out then. Talking about Republicans.
 
I've always maintained that extremists on the Left (my "side", I guess) bother me far more than extremists on the Right, mostly because they muddy our waters more than extremists on the other side do.

My brain hurts just reading this nonsense.
 
Expect more of this. Trump likely committed treason, and the GOP pigfuckers are doing everything in their power to abet his crime.
 
I've always maintained that extremists on the Left (my "side", I guess) bother me far more than extremists on the Right, mostly because they muddy our waters more than extremists on the other side do.

"the other side always has tons of mass shooters so ours is worse"
 
Democrats are getting blamed... SHOCKING!

Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) on Wednesday linked the political rhetoric of Democrats to the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va.

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."
Fuck all of this.
 
Democrats are getting blamed... SHOCKING!

Rep. Chris Collins (R-NY) on Wednesday linked the political rhetoric of Democrats to the shooting of Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.) and others at a baseball field in Alexandria, Va.

"I can only hope that the Democrats do tone down the rhetoric," Collins told WBEN. "The rhetoric has been outrageous ... the finger-pointing, just the tone and the angst and the anger directed at Donald Trump, his supporters."

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So much for hoping that the GOP wouldn't use this to score political points...
 
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