parrotbeak
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The only way this card would be better is if they added a grappling only match between GSP and CM.
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Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor fight finalized for Aug. 26 - It's on!
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Mr. Mister
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What a joke. Hug fight with May winning and a promise of a rematch.
serenewarfare
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I'm gonna go ahead and say if you think Conor has any chance here, you are a mark. Even the "puncher's chance" is not a valid argument for numerous reasons.
You can be excited for this and look forward to it, but it's not a fight. It's not a competition. It's purely a show. It's entertainment. There's zero sport value here.
You can be excited for this and look forward to it, but it's not a fight. It's not a competition. It's purely a show. It's entertainment. There's zero sport value here.
hydragonwarrior
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WWE remains.
chromatic9
Member
Still a bit strange for Floyd to maybe end his legendary career with this gimmick fight but $100 million each is what is happening.
Can't see McGregor lasting 5 rounds.
Can't see McGregor lasting 5 rounds.
When Conor knocks him out you should pace yourself on all the crow eating.
Martinski43
Member
I am confused, is it gonna be MMA or just straight up boxing match? If it's just boxing then i dont see how Mcgregor has any chance.
highrider
Banned
That's not entirely inaccurate, but I think you might be confusing Floyd of 10 years ago with Floyd today. Conner is the longest of long shots but Floyd doesn't have knock out power anymore and he's not impossible to hit.
Why should any 140 lb guy beat a 220 lb. guy?
That said, Bruce Lee would beat Bob Sapp.
Edit: Casual fight fans are funny, all my friends thought Ronda Rousey could beat a prime Muhammad Ali in boxing a couple years back.
parrotbeak
Member
How would you sell a fight against Mayweather after Conor lost to two unknowns?
serenewarfare
Banned
Floyd today is still more than a good enough defensive boxer to not take a clean power shot from a guy whose power will be diminished (but still great, mind you) fighting with bigger gloves than he's used to.
Floyd won't knock him out, but the result will never be in doubt.
parrotbeak
Member
Floyd would tko Sapp in 10 seconds.
Vivalaraza
Member
The UFC would have never allowed that.
Also it would put a pin in the hype bubble - Conor would probably lose or look sluggish and the "but what if?" intigue would be gone.
Which is nonsense anyway, when is the last time somebody won a high profile boxing fight with a "what if" punch? It doesn't happen. Mayweather has been fighting genuinely qualified guys on that very basis for years and nobody has even come close.
Diprosalic
Banned
just tell him that this is a higly specialised sport.
is the guy who is doing decathlons more talanted than a 100m runner? maybe.
is it the more difficult sport? maybe.
will he beat usain bolt in a 100m race? no.
I'm sure you could find some kid that would just go down, just so Conor would have gotten adjusted to going 12 rounds and focusing on boxing strikes. To get even the most rudimentary feel for a boxing match.
He's gonna feel real real lost for a little bit, then promptly get turned into a hamburger as it is.
Result will be fixed and nobody will 'lose' here although Floyd will win on points.
MMA itself being more difficult, I can see that. Throwing a pure boxer against someone who can grapple aswell as box and kick, I think I can see who has the advantage here.
Joanna Jedrzejczyk would also tko Bob Sapp.
Diprosalic
Banned
the only chance conor has is if floyd suddenly looks old as shit.
which is possible, it happens quick sometimes but i seriously doubt it.
which is possible, it happens quick sometimes but i seriously doubt it.
Conor is a fucking marketing genius, from 2013 when I believe he was still claiming benefits and fighting on local circuits, to 2017 where he is a two weight champion already worth circa $50M and about to bank out another $100M and retire as a wealthy man.
He was pretty open from the off he wasn't in this for the long term, even with his extravagant spending he would have to do a Brewsters Millions to get rid of this kind of cash, as Chris Rock said "you can't get rid of wealth!"
As for the fight, well Conor has a solid jaw and is used to getting tagged with 6oz gloves, I don't think it's over fast but I do think Mayweather will out-time Conor and put him away within 5 rounds.
He was pretty open from the off he wasn't in this for the long term, even with his extravagant spending he would have to do a Brewsters Millions to get rid of this kind of cash, as Chris Rock said "you can't get rid of wealth!"
As for the fight, well Conor has a solid jaw and is used to getting tagged with 6oz gloves, I don't think it's over fast but I do think Mayweather will out-time Conor and put him away within 5 rounds.
The stages of denial will be so immense if Conor knocks him out, I'd expect at least half of all the people who said it could never happen to say Floyd took a dive on purpose.
I'm at peace with the likelihood Conor loses, but just the idea of it going the other way is exciting for so many reasons.
I'm at peace with the likelihood Conor loses, but just the idea of it going the other way is exciting for so many reasons.
highrider
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Yeah, I essentially agree but I'm hesitant to write off a bigger and more powerful opponent completely. Conor isn't a boxer by any stretch, but he's intelligent.
I can think of 10 boxers that had a better chance of knocking out Floyd, and he already beat them.
I hope the undercard has some mma and boxing mashups but I'm sure no one else is that stupid . I'll be watching at someone's house.
I also need to get my hands on thousands of Irish flags. So many people are going to turn Irish over the next few months looking for that mayweather loss.
Also what are the odds that Floyd comes to the ring with a leprechaun or wearing a leprechaun hat? I see him going full heel like the sombrero during the delahoya fight.
I also need to get my hands on thousands of Irish flags. So many people are going to turn Irish over the next few months looking for that mayweather loss.
Also what are the odds that Floyd comes to the ring with a leprechaun or wearing a leprechaun hat? I see him going full heel like the sombrero during the delahoya fight.
10 ounce gloves...
All of this talk about McGregor's power is going to be completely nullified. It's a whole different game pushing those pillows around. I wouldn't be surprised if he looked significantly slower.
Having said that, I think Mayweather will win whilst looking very average in a safe performance. In fact, I'd be shocked if Conor doesn't make it to the end.
Mayweather will earn his dollah and retire with two fingers up to all, Conor's stock will have risen by being somewhat competitive and he'll go back to the UFC and ko one or two more bums then retire.
All of this talk about McGregor's power is going to be completely nullified. It's a whole different game pushing those pillows around. I wouldn't be surprised if he looked significantly slower.
Having said that, I think Mayweather will win whilst looking very average in a safe performance. In fact, I'd be shocked if Conor doesn't make it to the end.
Mayweather will earn his dollah and retire with two fingers up to all, Conor's stock will have risen by being somewhat competitive and he'll go back to the UFC and ko one or two more bums then retire.
OmegaTreeFish
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Lol. This is so dumb. Just easy money for them both.
Take a champion of one thing against a champion of a different thing. Make them fight by the rules of only one of them and its stupidly in their favour.
If this is MMA it might be interesting. As a boxing match.... lol. Might put a very rare bet on Connor just in case a miricle happens.
Take a champion of one thing against a champion of a different thing. Make them fight by the rules of only one of them and its stupidly in their favour.
If this is MMA it might be interesting. As a boxing match.... lol. Might put a very rare bet on Connor just in case a miricle happens.
Yeah that's a good analogy. I used the NASCAR/drag racing one myself, but that's better.
For the record I don't think boxing is more difficult or vice versa, I think you can't compare the two. Each comes with its own set of rules that differ greatly and contribute to their overall difficultly.
It would be over faster if it was mma. No way floyd would last more than a minute getting kicked.
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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Floyd is going to toy with this guy.
Imp the Dimp
Member
What's with all the whining? Money gonna win, sure, but it's certainly better to see this legend in the ring again than not, isn't it? Pre-fight antics are going to be entertaining as well.
Diprosalic
Banned
Uh no.
Conor might survive 12 rounds losing each one but Floyd would stop existing 10 seconds in to an mma bout.
DasPenguin
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If Mayweather hasn't trained a single day since the last fight, gained 30 pounds and is completely out of shape, maybe. Otherwise no chance.
This is like Frank Thomas and Michael Jordan having a home run derby in 1994 and someone believing that Jordan can win.
SubScorpianZero
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those of you saying Floyd in a minute don't know much about fighting, no disrespect.
I mean, he is a boring boxer. Most people only want to see him back in the ring for the possibility of him losing. He has built his career off of people wanting him to lose. He won't lose this.
OmegaTreeFish
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Well fair enough but that just shows how dumb this how thing is. Taking two experts in their field and pitting them against each other will never make sense if its only by one of those peoples rules.
MMA would be heavily in Connors favour and boxing is heavily in Floyds favour.
I only say it would be more interesting as an MMA because I thought you might get boxers in that and so rather than having a fight have all his tools taken away (Connor restricted to boxing) you have a boxer who has to learn addition defence and can use more tools if needed (Floyd doing MMA). His boxing skills don't become useless for example.
GeordieMark
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I don't expect a KO ending to this one. Floyd will win, but given this is an exhibition, rather than a proper competitive fight, I wouldn't be too surprised if both of them take it relatively easy. This is why I'm reluctant to pay for this fight. I'll watch it somehow, but no chance I'm paying for it.
I still fully expect it to be competitive. Floyd will have an easy time landing punches on McGregor.
I don't know if he is going to get knocked out, but he is most definitely going to be a taking a lot of damage.
Chuck Norris
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Boxing is a specialised sport but I think you guys all underestimate a few things before ruling out an upset
All UFC fighters train heavily in boxing
Conor was a boxer before MMA and a very strong amateur
Conor is a fantastic striker. Regardless of intricacies of he discipline, he has levels of skill in his striking you simply can't teach because it requires a level of fearlessness and dedication to a wide range of martial arts to learn some of the thing he does on his feet. He has actually had some an impact in MMA because he is not strictly a one discipline fighter. It makes him highly unpredictable. Now how that works in a boxing ring, I don't know yet.
This is 2017 Floyd, not 2007 Floyd
Conor studies his opponents like the bible, he picks out weaknesses in every fight and consistently exploits them. Mayweather does as well, but the difference is Conor can look through decades of material. Nobody really knows what style Conor will bring to the ring
Can Conor get under Floyds skin? Or maybe vice versa. They are both experts at this. But it could be pivotal in one of them screwing up.
I just don't see it as a simple win.
The main intricacies I think for Conor will be the different movement of boxing, he simply can't move as much as in a UFC ring because he will run out of space very quickly. But he is also extremely efficient with his movement and I imagine very adaptable.
Also will be the gloves. He has a very whippy style of punch that works with the light gloves of UFC and allow for extremely fast punches. Does he lose some of that with the big gloves? Possibly. Or maybe he gains more impact
I see the two as very similar fighters, except one is more offensive and one is more defensive. Both can take a punch. Both rely heavily on anticipation and counters. You will rarely ever see either fighter make simple mistakes when fighting like over balancing, losing their footing, missing a strike and leaving themselves exposed. I actually could see it as one of Floyds more impressive fights if it plays out like I think. Lots of slickly dodged punches, varied attacks, and pretty much a game of chess in there from both fighters.
All UFC fighters train heavily in boxing
Conor was a boxer before MMA and a very strong amateur
Conor is a fantastic striker. Regardless of intricacies of he discipline, he has levels of skill in his striking you simply can't teach because it requires a level of fearlessness and dedication to a wide range of martial arts to learn some of the thing he does on his feet. He has actually had some an impact in MMA because he is not strictly a one discipline fighter. It makes him highly unpredictable. Now how that works in a boxing ring, I don't know yet.
This is 2017 Floyd, not 2007 Floyd
Conor studies his opponents like the bible, he picks out weaknesses in every fight and consistently exploits them. Mayweather does as well, but the difference is Conor can look through decades of material. Nobody really knows what style Conor will bring to the ring
Can Conor get under Floyds skin? Or maybe vice versa. They are both experts at this. But it could be pivotal in one of them screwing up.
I just don't see it as a simple win.
The main intricacies I think for Conor will be the different movement of boxing, he simply can't move as much as in a UFC ring because he will run out of space very quickly. But he is also extremely efficient with his movement and I imagine very adaptable.
Also will be the gloves. He has a very whippy style of punch that works with the light gloves of UFC and allow for extremely fast punches. Does he lose some of that with the big gloves? Possibly. Or maybe he gains more impact
I see the two as very similar fighters, except one is more offensive and one is more defensive. Both can take a punch. Both rely heavily on anticipation and counters. You will rarely ever see either fighter make simple mistakes when fighting like over balancing, losing their footing, missing a strike and leaving themselves exposed. I actually could see it as one of Floyds more impressive fights if it plays out like I think. Lots of slickly dodged punches, varied attacks, and pretty much a game of chess in there from both fighters.
Vivalaraza
Member
They confirmed on the conference call that it is a boxing card only. No MMA.
Dana sounded very smug, he must have got a good deal. It was funny when he started by saying this is a Showtime show that will be run by Showtime and then proceeded to answer every question.