Transformers: The Last Knight review thread
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brandonh83
Banned
Action is absolutely fucking meaningless if you don't care about what's going on.
Action is dictated by tension. Tension is dictated by plot/character investment, solid pacing, stakes, urgency, emotion-- all things not a single one of these films have.
Revenge of the Fallen even managed to screw up Jet Optimus. How do you manage to be outclassed by Transformers Armada?!
More_Badass
Member
On one hand, that's totally true. That's what elevates the classics of the genre
But on the other...crazy ridiculous spectacle can tickle that base reptilian brain that doesn't care about tension or story or why things are happening. If the spectacle is expensive and pretty enough of course.
More_Badass
Member
Which is the recent series that GAF likes?
More Than Meets The Eye and it's sequel Lost Light
brandonh83
Banned
I think what I'm trying to say is this. There's:
a) quality action involving good characters with solid tension
b) spectacle action that you're not exactly invested in, but it's still fun
c) action that might be fun to watch if it weren't sandwiched between a shitty story with shitty characters, shitty tone-deaf humor, shitty pacing, etc
You're saying that you would prefer A but would be fine with B. This is not B. This is C. Worse than C.
a) Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Star Trek.
b) Pacific Rim
c) Transformers, Godzilla (1999), BC -10000, 2012, ID4...
brandonh83
Banned
I don't do the hot take thing. I'm not trying to have any "hot takes."
I thought this was legitimately worse. Revenge of the Fallen has similar problems to this, but I thought they were worse here. Age of Extinction had similar problems as well but for me it was mostly just boring/dull.
Ah, good example here.
Dash_Riprock
Member
It can ALWAYS be worse.
brandonh83
Banned
At least next year's Bumblebee spinoff has a chance. Different writers, no Bay. And Bumblebee is Bestformer.
Watch it be by fuckin' far the best one.
Watch it be by fuckin' far the best one.
Have you seen the ""writers"" they got for this cinematic universe?
Yeah fuckin right
brandonh83
Banned
No. I guess I was kneejerk in my hopes there.
And it'll bomb hard because of this one.
Yabberwocky
Member
Amen!
There are so many great Megatron panels I wish I could use, but arrgh, spoilers.
Alter_Fridge
Member
People hating on Prime for being a murder in the Bay films
Don't you remember he was about to execute Megatron in the animated film until Hot Rod got in the way?
Don't you remember he was about to execute Megatron in the animated film until Hot Rod got in the way?
I've never seen so much as a trailer for the Transformers movies. That was fucking awful.
...were those supposed to be testicles banging around on him? The fuck?
brandonh83
Banned
Hi, Ghaleon. Welcome to Bayformers.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
edit: wait, I misunderstood, I thought you meant 'I expected reviews here', not "reviews are as expected".
Speaking of which, at this time, Rottentomatoes for this movie is at 17%
Average Rating: 3.4/10
Reviews Counted: 69
Fresh: 12
Rotten: 57
Critics Consensus: Cacophonous, thinly plotted, and boasting state-of-the-art special effects, The Last Knight is pretty much what you'd expect from the fifth installment of the Transformers franchise.
brandonh83
Banned
17% is honest to god way too fucking high.
Hero of Time
Member
Have seen every transformers movie in the theaters day 1, but age of extinction broke me. Might be waiting for this one on Blu-Ray.
Messofanego
Banned
You liked Hardcore Henry, didn't you? 😉
Messofanego
Banned
Ah, so Hardcore Henry and Ghost Rider 2 would be B. I think only the first Transformers I would put in B. Shoot Em Up would be A, along with all the other critically acclaimed action movies.
In absolutely no way is this an artistic triumph. In fact, every single technical triumph is immediatly and completely undermined by the worst possible artistic choices by the director, sound mixer, actors & editor, making it impossible to actually appreciate the technical marvel since it's impossible to dissect, take in or, really, discern what's happening with the way the camera moves, the scenes are edited and the robots look. This is not a good action movie. The action is, again, save for a few scenes at the end, unanimously terrible and there isn't even all that much in there in the first two thirds.
It's like getting the fastest car in the world but the steering wheel is broken, the breaks don't work, you can't shift down and your passenger continously punches you in the face. Yes, you could still drive really fast, but there is absolutely no enjoyment in it.
AgentOtaku
Member
So damn spot on.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It needs to be lower. Only the best of the best.
Honestly, your hope for an honest to god good Transformers movie is to have the rights stripped away from Paramount. Crazy spectacle is what that studio lusts after.
digoutyoursoul
Member
I'm not telling anyone their wrong, if they do like it, good for them. What I am saying is the haters stuff is a just lazy retort, it's bullshit, well the ones who use it seriously that is.
Fbh
Gold Member
I like dumb action movies.
I liked Battleship and even enjoyed my time with the new Independence day. I also think Transformers 1 and 3 were decent.
But I couldn't even finish watching Transformers 4. Except for production values they are on a whole other level of bad than your average dumb action movie.
The humor is terrible, the acting of almost everyone involved is often terrible and the writing borders on not even making sense. They are also super long without needing to be so they are full of weird and unnecessary scenes.
I know you could argue the same for stuff like Battleships and it's often true. But they manage to stay at a level of bad that is enjoyable for a fun action flick, transformers takes all of those elements and somehow makes them exponentially worse.
So it's actually worse than Revenge of the Fallen? I might need to watch this one.
Not every film has to be Citizen Kane, but it's nice if it at least makes sense.
I liked Revenge of the Fallen alright. I've only seen the first two and I think I like these movies best when it's about the humans. I hate the military stuff but I love when it's about Sam and Mikaela. Which is why I think it sucks that Spielberg removed Megan Fox from the franchise.
xKilltheMx
Member
Oh my god these reviews.
Fuck it im getting drunk and seeing this on sunday thanks to T-Mobile.
Fuck it im getting drunk and seeing this on sunday thanks to T-Mobile.
cr0w
Old Member
I agree with that. It's just as obnoxious.