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[Klosshufvud]

With official numbers out, Superman has now fallen $17M WW behind Man of Steel for the same timeframe.

Welp, not the surefire hit and humiliation of the Snyder movies as propped up prior to release. I'm guessing we'll start to see the usual damage control gear up by WB's marketing as it barely limps to MoS' moderately successful box office run.

There is some irony that the oversaturation and homogenization that Snyder once warned against and was ridiculed for has now come true. Yes the conditions are different now compared to 10 years ago, but that is mostly due to film studios prioritizing profits and exploitation of IPs over consistent quality. Gunn's own DC movies have been pretty bland up to this point too so I'm not so sure why people expected anything different this time around.

I don't think the constant hand waving BO numbers away with various explanations will alter the fact that WB big shots will consider this costly fresh reboot of DC Universe a disappointment. They have committed a lot of time and money to this. There's a good chance a Snyder/Cavill MoS2 would have been more popular without risking as much, but that bridge was burned a long time ago.

 

[Revolutionary]

Highest domestic grossing Superman film after only 3 weeks in theaters. Anyone trying to frame this as anything but a success is in complete denial or completely insane.

It's funny how some of our resident Snyderbros are trying to take a victory lap when Gunn's Superman has undisputedly outperformed Man of Steel in every metric that matters:

The only exception is international box office, and we partially have Universal to thank for that because they shat out another Jurassic World sequel that international audiences (China in particular) flock to. As a result, even the new Fantastic Four is underperforming internationally, when the previous F4 movies have done quite well internationally - the shitty 2015 reboot in particular made DOUBLE the domestic box office.

Regardless, the bottom line is that Gunn's DCU is here to stay despite any 'failure' that Snyderbros conjure up, like that guy on the last page making up shit and then trying to use ChatGPT to cover his ass.

So yeah, go ahead and enjoy your Rebel Moon and Army of the Dead sequels while the rest of us enjoy a live action universe that DC deserves.

 

[Madflavor]

Welp, not the surefire hit and humiliation of the Snyder movies as propped up prior to release. I'm guessing we'll start to see the usual damage control gear up by WB's marketing as it barely limps to MoS' moderately successful box office run.

There is some irony that the oversaturation and homogenization that Snyder once warned against and was ridiculed for has now come true. Yes the conditions are different now compared to 10 years ago, but that is mostly due to film studios prioritizing profits and exploitation of IPs over consistent quality. Gunn's own DC movies have been pretty bland up to this point too so I'm not so sure why people expected anything different this time around.

I don't think the constant hand waving BO numbers away with various explanations will alter the fact that WB big shots will consider this costly fresh reboot of DC Universe a disappointment. They have committed a lot of time and money to this. There's a good chance a Snyder/Cavill MoS2 would have been more popular without risking as much, but that bridge was burned a long time ago.

Nah I think they'd be happy with Superman finishing in the mid 600s, which it probably will. Domestic isn't the problem, in fact the movie has done great in the states. It's international that's the problem, and that's not exclusive to DC. The entire CBM genre has severely wained in BO power overseas. WB are looking at all three MCU movies this year, and seeing the same thing happening to them. Thing is, Superman is currently tracking to be the highest grossing CBM of the year, against 3 movies from it's rival. The last time a DC film beat Marvel, was The Dark Knight beating Iron Man back in 2008. On top of that they know they have to rebuild public trust with the DC brand, as they have flat out said so multiple times. But despite it's horrid opening OS, Superman has still had good legs over there, as well as Domestically. That means wom is good, and people are loving the character and movie.

Now obviously they would've been much happier with $700m or $800m. But mid $600 range with really good legs and wom, is not the disaster some people are trying to paint it as.