TheGrat1
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I'll be real sure to take that under advisement. Promise.
In the future, however I suggest you direct your criticisms to the complaints department:
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VulcanRaven
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I'm starting to get excited about the season 2 that starts tomorrow even when I haven't seen the first one. I'm regretting skipping The Suicide Squad too.
Edit: Gunn has talked about upcoming projects on a podcast:
James Gunn Reveals DC Universe Filming Plans Following Superman
More DCU movies and TV shows are in the works.
screenrant.com
"Gunn also alluded in a separate interview with Crew Call with Anthony D'Alessandro that the Justice Gang may also be factoring into the mysterious Superman follow-up. Without getting too much into details, Gunn stated the following":
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Toots
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Really liked David corenswet (or whatever his name is) superman.
Typical good natured american boy.
I also really liked the (apparently) controversial "fucking piece of shit alien ! / That's where you've always been wrong about me" , i thought it well acted from both guys. I felt superman humanity there.
James Gunn care bear like optimism and performative benevolence is often too much, but for a character like superman it rang true (smoked a huge one while watching so maybe this explains that).
Typical good natured american boy.
I also really liked the (apparently) controversial "fucking piece of shit alien ! / That's where you've always been wrong about me" , i thought it well acted from both guys. I felt superman humanity there.
James Gunn care bear like optimism and performative benevolence is often too much, but for a character like superman it rang true (smoked a huge one while watching so maybe this explains that).
MrTroubleMaker
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got a good laugh with this one.
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VulcanRaven
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I read that this has made $598.5M now. I like the standard 4K Blu-Ray art but I decided to pre-order the Fortress of Solitude steelbook.
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dragonyeuw
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Oh cool, I was wondering where the PM was for this movie.
Revolutionary
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He recently scaled back the video cadence because making a video every week was exhausting for him, especially since he has a kid now and such.
YCoCg
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Look, I loved it, but it's a 6/10.
Was it a traditional Superman movie? No, but it was a good god damn comic book as a movie.
So many little details and drops here and there for comic fans but that was also it's flaw, it felt like you just jumped in mid-issue. The plot bounced around and final "superman" chants felt unearned. It's odd that it does feel like you're being thrown into a conflict/plot and expected to know, and hey most of us do know origins story.
It was fun though, I can't think of any other way to describe it as literal comics on screen. How they go from here will probably strengthen or weaken how fondly this movie is looked back on
PS: Nicholas Holt was hamming up his scenes and I'm down with that. Even though a lot of Lexs plans were convoluted
Was it a traditional Superman movie? No, but it was a good god damn comic book as a movie.
So many little details and drops here and there for comic fans but that was also it's flaw, it felt like you just jumped in mid-issue. The plot bounced around and final "superman" chants felt unearned. It's odd that it does feel like you're being thrown into a conflict/plot and expected to know, and hey most of us do know origins story.
It was fun though, I can't think of any other way to describe it as literal comics on screen. How they go from here will probably strengthen or weaken how fondly this movie is looked back on
PS: Nicholas Holt was hamming up his scenes and I'm down with that. Even though a lot of Lexs plans were convoluted
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VulcanRaven
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Passed 600m:
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Box Office Milestone: ‘Superman’ First Superhero Pic of Year to Fly Past $600 Million Globally
The inaugural release from James Gunn and Peter Safran's DC Studios is the top-grossing comic book movie of the year so far but can't escape kryptonite altogether as the overall genre continues to struggle.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Revolutionary
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Corenswet's audition tape is making the rounds this morning:
Talented dude, but most of us already knew that from watching the movie. Also interesting to see how the interview scene evolved over time
Talented dude, but most of us already knew that from watching the movie. Also interesting to see how the interview scene evolved over time
Fake
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Passed 600m:
Box Office Milestone: ‘Superman’ First Superhero Pic of Year to Fly Past $600 Million Globally
The inaugural release from James Gunn and Peter Safran's DC Studios is the top-grossing comic book movie of the year so far but can't escape kryptonite altogether as the overall genre continues to struggle.
Wasn't passed already?
Those twitter accounts like Dextrio are so fucking terrible.
VulcanRaven
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It did it in last few days but I'm not sure exactly when. Luiz Fernando on Twitter predicts that it will do 615-620m.
VulcanRaven
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The final scene might be my favorite in the movie. I heard that his wife plays Lois in that audition.
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VulcanRaven
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Good to see its still making money. I saw some Clayface set photos with Gotham City police cars and a graffiti mentioning Joker.
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StreetsofBeige
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You'd think a Superman movie would blow past $600M no problem.
Then again, check out DC's superhero films since covid. Aside from The Batman, they do lousy. Somehow even Black Adam did better than all movies except Batman, Superman and Aquaman 2. Before covid, they did way better as a whole.
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Then again, check out DC's superhero films since covid. Aside from The Batman, they do lousy. Somehow even Black Adam did better than all movies except Batman, Superman and Aquaman 2. Before covid, they did way better as a whole.
List of films based on DC Comics publications - Wikipedia
NickFire
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I'm one of the people who skipped pretty much all of it except The Batman. The movies I'd watch after the theater runs (streams) just didn't hit with me like the Nolan trilogy and MCU movies. But I'll probably start going to theaters again. I liked Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, now this. Has gotten better IMO.You'd think a Superman movie would blow past $600M no problem.
Then again, check out DC's superhero films since covid. Aside from The Batman, they do lousy. Somehow even Black Adam did better than all movies except Batman, Superman and Aquaman 2. Before covid, they did way better as a whole.
List of films based on DC Comics publications - Wikipedia
Madflavor
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You'd think a Superman movie would blow past $600M no problem.
Then again, check out DC's superhero films since covid. Aside from The Batman, they do lousy. Somehow even Black Adam did better than all movies except Batman, Superman and Aquaman 2. Before covid, they did way better as a whole.
List of films based on DC Comics publications - Wikipedia
During the absolute peak of the CBM genre (which I would say was in 2016-2019), $800m probably would've been the floor for Superman. The International Market was massive for superhero films pre-Covid, especially China, but by and large they've lost interest these days. Not to mention overall theater attendance globally is not what it used to be.
All things considered, $600m+ is perfectly respectable for any CBM these days. It's not a huge hit, but Superman was a moderate success. It's just that circumstances have brought us back to a pre-Iron Man 1 market, where Superhero films were still blockbusters, but not the titans of the box office like they came to be in 2012-2019.
calico
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Apparently this is the first year since 2011 that no superhero movie got over $700m (excluding covid year). The peak years of the craze were doing $6-10bn adjusted box office per year for superhero movies and now we're down to $2bn, drifting downwards since Endgame / covid.
If they start to believe their own bullshit about how well Superman has done they are quite quickly going to get themselves in trouble with this, because all indications are the market is simply not there anymore. Talk of Supergirl matching Superman seems like baseless hopium.
If they start to believe their own bullshit about how well Superman has done they are quite quickly going to get themselves in trouble with this, because all indications are the market is simply not there anymore. Talk of Supergirl matching Superman seems like baseless hopium.
Trunx81
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It has Milly Alcock in a short skirt and boots in it, though ...
DarkBatman
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I suspect a lot will also depend on how well Jason Momoa is portrayed as Lobo. If they stick close to the comics and include a mix of violence, coolness, and vulgar language, it could all work. Unfortunately, with Gunn, I'm always a bit worried that coolness gets conflated too quickly with over-the-top humor.
DeafTourette
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Gunn didn't write nor direct Supergirl
DarkBatman
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But he's a producer on the movie and CEO and Co-Chairman of DC Studios. Besides, he was responsible for casting Jason Momoa in the role, wasn't he? So, I think it's safe to assume he had some say in the direction of the film.
Revolutionary
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The extent of Gunn's creative input with Supergirl begins and ends with hiring a writer to adapt Woman of Tomorrow. He wasn't hovering over the shoulder of the director during the shoot, telling him to add more jokes.
As an accomplished director himself, I'm sure he is well aware that directors don't like that kind of meddling so he's not going to do it to others.
The writer of Supergirl, at least according to IMDB, is Ana Noguiera, has a whooping ONE PREVIOUS WRITING CREDIT, a short SEVEN YEARS AGO. Gunn is listed as a producer, not an executive producer, so it seems pretty safe to say that Gunn didn't hire a girl with a single writing credit, throw her a copy of the comic, sign a 150-200 million dollar check to Craig Gillespie the director, who does have a decent body of work but not a ton of "high octane" stuff, and then walk away.The extent of Gunn's creative input with Supergirl begins and ends with hiring a writer to adapt Woman of Tomorrow. He wasn't hovering over the shoulder of the director during the shoot, telling him to add more jokes.
I've little doubt Gunn was INTIMATELY involved in the creation of Supergirl and I bet you will see his influence all over it.
I'm kinda curious if we will EVER see an actual hero/heroine nude. I gotta think that even Gunn can't cross that line for a topless Powergirl or Booster Gold wang, much less any of the really big ones with kid appeal. I think it's always gonna be rando extras. Hell, I don't think even The Boys has any of the actual main heroes nude, though maybe The Deep? Though there have been some almost nameless ones at times, usually male, with powers. Just seems lie an unspoken line, only crossed by Watchmen
Revolutionary
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Every writer has to start somewhere, and an adaptation of an existing story is a perfect place to start. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, rather than assume she's being ghost written or whatever. I'm sure Gunn gave her some guidelines into adapting Woman Of Tomorrow into the overarching DCU story he's trying to tell, but that's likely the extent of it, as I said before.
Also you made it sound like that check is for the director's salary, not the entire producton. For a second I was like holy crap, I need to be a director lol
He claims he wasn't on set for most of the production and let Gillespie do his thing. Could he be lying? Sure, but as I said before, directors generally don't like producer meddling and I doubt that Gunn, an experienced director, would force that upon another.
Anyway, the original poster I was responding to claimed that Gunn would have a hand in the direction or insert jokes, but there's no evidence that he's ever done that on a set that he wasn't directing himself. On the contrary, he's very hands-off, sometimes to a fault... like that time the Russos decided to kill off Gamora in a movie that wasn't his.
Giant production, likely effects heavy, hundreds of millions on the line....yeah, let's get the bit actress to write it up.
Gunn doesn't need to be on set, 50% of the work (should be) is in pre-production and another 30% in post. He can just watch the digital dailies from his office and send notes.
Doesn't mean he isn't letting the director, DP, and 2nd unit do their stuff without his express approval each day. But if you think Gillespie and the writer have the freedom to turn kryptonite into nanite fluid, make the Green Lanterns an oppressive galactic police force reporting directly to Darkseid, or have Batman sending Supergirl simp DMs as a running gag throughout, I think you'd be solely mistaken (though that last bit DOES sound like a Gunn joke).
Revolutionary
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Batman sending simp DMs to Supergirl... in Woman of Tomorrow. Right...
I'm getting the distinct impression that you have no clue what the story is even about and you're just arguing for arguments sake. You had me for a second, not gonna lie.
That's my point, Gunn isn't just gonna hand off a comic to some noob writer and a director he's probably never worked closely with before, who knows where they would take the story or what "later problems" they might come up with. He is INTIMATELY involved in how they interpret the story, what it will mean for later films, how the characters will mesh with other ideas he has, and if the tone will be appropriate. Hell, seems like Gunn is the reason why Mamoa is Lobo, did the director even have a say in that casting?
Batman sending simp DMs to Supergirl... in Woman of Tomorrow. Right...
I'm getting the distinct impression that you have no clue what the story is even about and you're just arguing for arguments sake. You had me for a second, not gonna lie.
According to you he basically just pushed the comic to that team and walked away, "check in on yah in a year at the premier!" or something. That's LUNACY.
James Gunn Reveals How Jason Momoa Became Lobo in Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow - tinseltowntales.com
In a surprising and exciting development for DC fans, DC Studios chief James Gunn has opened up abou
tinseltowntales.com
James Gunn Reveals Why Jason Momoa Plays Lobo in Supergirl Movie—And How He Changes the DC Universe
James Gunn shares insights on Jason Momoa's role as Lobo in the Supergirl movie, promising a bold shift in DC's cinematic direction.
www.thecinemachina.com
The decision to include Lobo came from screenwriter Ana Nogueira, with Gunn also contributing, to help create a coherent three-act narrative. As Gunn elaborated on the DC Studios Showcase Podcast,
is very much a bunch of little stories. We needed to create one throughline, one three-act story, so Lobo helps us to do that.
Seems to me that Gunn was pretty damn deep in the writing of this thing, Mamoa seems to have self selected himself, so the director probably had little say in at least some of the main characters of his own film.
Gunn is DEEEEEEEEP in the creation of this film, no doubt. Probably isn't selecting filters, choosing lenses, or saying 'cut' on set but he is most definitely crafting it through the writing, the production approvals, and probably the editing.
TheGrat1
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The simplest way to know that Gunn is influencing Supergirl is the fact that she showed up in his film. Her characterization has already started to be established. It is not like they can make her a completely different person in her own film it would be tonally inconsistent. Scripts have to go through the studio before they are approved, and Gunn is co-head of the studio. He is not going to greenlight something he thinks is wrong, in fact he is already canceled some projects because he said the script was not coming together well.
Revolutionary
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She's displaying her characterization from the very first pages of Woman Of Tomorrow. Gunn didn't invent drunk Supergirl, it's straight out of the damn book.
I'm begging you guys to please pick up a comic and read once in a while. It's good stuff, I promise you.
Until Gunn's name shows up under the Writers or Story By credits, there's no reason to assume he's ghost writing or ghost directing (lol). It makes no logical sense. His name is on the Scooby Doo movies FFS, he's not one to shy from writing credits.
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Reizo Ryuu
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This isn't true, when she's drunk in the comic she's just very cavalier and wants to be left alone, she isn't laughing like an idiot while her dog is assaulting for a cheap joke; heck she barely laughs at all in the entire run.
DreamcastSkies
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Looks like Gunn just announced Superman 2 (Man of Tomorrow) for summer 2027.
Damn, must have been a hell of a cocaine bender that got that script hammered out so fast!
Hopefully they can reign in some of the wilder comic book elements and tell a more focused story.
I also wanna see corunsant and mamoa arm wrestle....
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
WOW!!
If they are gonna do that armored suit, I really hope they do it as practical as possible instead of a 10 minute cartoon battle of them being thrown through buildings and stuff.WOW!!
TheGrat1
Member
Did I say he invented drunk Supergirl? No. Understand what I wrote and try not to be so condescending.
Do you mean comics like these?:
Some of the ones I own? Yeah, thanks for the suggestion. You are only a decade late.
Let me break some news for you: Gunn wrote the Superman movie. Supergirl is in Superman, with actual lines and everything. Gunn wrote her. Not a comic book writer. Not whoever is working on her solo movie. Gunn. That means how she was portrayed was entirely under his influence. And, as I stated logically before, as the first introduction to the character this particular film version is going to (at least one would expect) set the tone for how she is portrayed in subsequent films, including her solo. At no point did I say or imply Gunn is ghost-writing the movie.
If IMDB is to be believed he is literally already credited as a producer on Supergirl, homie. Managing the script is part of his job. If you honestly think Supergirl, as a character in the DCU, is something out of Gunn's hands and he is just going to have to play off of what everyone else does with the character then I honestly do not know what to tell you.
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