-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
John McCain has Brain Cancer
- Thread starter super-heated plasma
- Start date
- Status
Psychoward
Banned
Because Biden is a public diplomat who has stable healthcare and who generally isn't effected by the GOP's policies (even climate change since he'll be dead by then).
Trying to equate a politician's public statement and a concerned citizen's anonymous forum post is an odd one for sure.
John Rabbit
Banned
From the replies:
What a bunch of hogwash. "Lets stop mixing politics and humanity"; meanwhile the GOP is trying every which way from Sunday to revoke needed healthcare from double-digit millions of Americans.
K.
WrenchNinja
Member
You know what world you live in. The world where a racist misogynist traitor is President, supported by a corrupt party that wants to kill millions because it's poltically and financially profitable for them.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Let me see oh, ten posts thankful that he has cancer.
While I agree, we also don't need to tread on someone in this time. Better to just stay away.
It's pretty sick.
Stop putting words in people mouths I seen this several times now.
You are not going to force empathy by doing this.
The man has brain cancer and is dying. Civility even in the face of politics you disagree with is something that takes precedence over all. The last thread we had on this was gross and this one seems to continue that trend. I wish the man well and hope he's able to overcome this tremendous hardship.
We can just create a seperate thread later for directing his policies and philosophies. Dragging those through the mud in a thread about fucking brain cancer isn't the most tasteful way of discussing it.
We can just create a seperate thread later for directing his policies and philosophies. Dragging those through the mud in a thread about fucking brain cancer isn't the most tasteful way of discussing it.
Before the ACA was voted into law his health insurer could've dropped him for being too sick.
Thanks, Obama and get well, John.
Also, gonna leave this here, for a bit of perspective
I fully believe that parent should have had her child taken away from her.
Sirpopopop
Member
Maybe you shouldn't "pretend" he's a hero.
He was captured in Vietnam. He was a prisoner for 5 and a 1/2 years. He had god knows how many bones in his body broken during torture. He was given an opportunity to leave Vietnam early. He declined to take it early.
I think that qualifies as a hero.
So your regret over McCain's illness is contingent on his recovering from said illness? If not explicitly logically faulty, you'll grant that sounds a bit odd.
I think McCain was a not very nice guy, terribly vain, and generally more interested in having his face on camera than helping people, but it sucks that he has cancer. Cancer is awful. I watched my dad die of it. No one should have to watch their loved ones die of cancer.
He's very fortunate that the people he's worked to deny coverage are paying for his medical care. I hope he recovers well, and this experience leads him to be a better man than he's been in the past.
He's very fortunate that the people he's worked to deny coverage are paying for his medical care. I hope he recovers well, and this experience leads him to be a better man than he's been in the past.
Snowybreak
Member
Ah, gotta love a good smokescreen, "I'm not gonna reveal who I'm actually talking about" post. So, who exactly are you calling cowards here?
Big Baybee
Member
John McCain was no maverick. No idea how he got branded as one. Look at his actual voting record.
TumblingHippo
Member
I really like this hot take. I think it sums up a lot about this and my feelings toward the old folks who want to take health insurance away from us:
https://twitter.com/ThatBitchFromNJ/status/887844691546435584
https://twitter.com/ThatBitchFromNJ/status/887844691546435584
Oh, I thought you were saying John McCain said that stuff, not a hypothetical dude.
I think a person who thinks we should kill all black people is not free of hatred or bigotry. I actually believe John McCain *is* free of those things, though his misguided sense of justice and morality leads to the same type of negative results.
Chill.
Glad we agree the GOP will destroy more American lives than any terrorist organization ever could.
Psychoward
Banned
If people are going to try and whitewash him in to a good person just because he's dying I'm not gonna stay away and let that happen. It'd be a disgrace to all the victims of GOP policies throughout his tenure.
Biden is a politician who might need to call on favors from McCain's party at a later date.
I'm a schlubby black chick without any political power besides what's defined in the constitution.
Me not crying over McCain isn't going to impact future legislation that could have the same consequences as the ACA does. If my actions did I would fucking go to McCain's funeral dressed all in black and with needles stuck in my eyelids so I could cry through the entire funeral.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I'd also be interested to see how many posters appalled that McCain's complicity in trying to take away people's health care isn't being ignored are from countries with national health care already in place
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
He wasn't going to vote for the abomination of a bill the Senate cobbled together in a secret room, mostly because ending the funding for the medicaid expansion would particularly fuck over AZ, which expanded Medicaid over two decades ago. Every AZ resident living in poverty is covered by Medicaid.
No telling whether whether he would vote for something almost as bad but he was heavily leaning no on this one.
This would be the best outcome.
minor effort
Banned
I hope he recovers and gains newfound empathy from his experience for all of us not fortunate enough to be a senator.
Maybe he should have been civil to the millions who would suffer under his parties health plan.
Vicetrailia
Banned
For some people it's life or death just like he is minus the privilege and with even more urgency. But he's fine wishing them well while taking away their health care. They doesn't fly for everyone.
Cancer sure is a bitch though, took my mother from me. It's one of those things want no one to have because it could easily mean that they're gone.
benicillin
Banned
I can respect his service without respecting his politics or calling him a hero.
Rran
Member
There is way too much demonizing going on in here--c'mon, GAF, I thought you were better than this.
Yeah, we disagreed with the guy on a lot of issues, but it's more than a little concerning to witness how easy it is for some of you to casually disregard (and, for some, relish in the demise of) the life of someone you disagree with.
I honestly can't tell if this is how some of you genuinely feel, or whether it might be some subconscious banner-waving for your ideology. Either way, cut it out
Yeah, we disagreed with the guy on a lot of issues, but it's more than a little concerning to witness how easy it is for some of you to casually disregard (and, for some, relish in the demise of) the life of someone you disagree with.
I honestly can't tell if this is how some of you genuinely feel, or whether it might be some subconscious banner-waving for your ideology. Either way, cut it out
Hierophant
Banned
does that make any difference? i'd rather my actual family in the US to be safe and well cared for at all times
Psychoward
Banned
"John McCain heavily leaning no" against a Republican proposal in 2017 has about as much weight to it as a toy poodle.
GoldenEye 007
Member
This isn't a vote about some football stadium getting funding. Or the Blue Angels being about to preform stunts and shows. It's kind of about tens of millions depending on affordable and competent healthcare. It's life and death for the masses and financial ruin.
I think it's even more telling that so many people refuse to see that.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
This may be McCain's last chance to not bend over backwards to be a complete hypocrite and I really doubt he's going to take it. Wish I had your optimism.
the_darkness
Banned
I don't even disagree with you.
But go push your agenda in any other thread not titled "John McCain has Brain Cancer".
Simple.
The Kissinger thread is the one that'll be most interesting to me.
I'm not going to laugh at the misfortunes that have fallen on the man nor his family. It's a horrible thing for anyone to go through. I hope his passing is as pain free as it can be. But I'm not going to forget what the man stood for. He won't be missed.
If you only see it in such simple terms, sure. Sorry you don't feel empathy for those who may not feel it for you. You being a dick in return doesn't make you a better person.
There will be time for that. This is day one.
Hierophant
Banned
hint hint, its cause they're all covered anyway so they don't give a shit its not like this affects them
people mad are understandably feeling some sense of self preservation
Right. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the tragedy of brain cancer and how it effects families and friends..
Psychoward
Banned
Time to call my mom and tell her I'm not a decent human being because I don't empathize someone who was planning on passing legislation to send me to the ER for a second liver transplant I can't afford since I wouldn't be able to afford my anti-rejection drugs anymore.
While I'm on the call I'll also tell her I need to be held to the same standard as a wealthy ex-President who's set for life.
It's almost like Biden is a political figure that would be character assassinated everywhere if he didn't wish him well. And Biden has access to healthcare, unlike the millions that wouldn't if the ACA would be repealed. Why are people trying to say that people directly affected by shitty policies that won't have the means to survive need to react with the same "class" as a elected official with decades of work in politics? People that would literally die without the ACA aren't allowed to be pissed? Holy fucking shit.
Terrible point. Not everybody is a ex-president set for life that won't ever need to care about having healthcare for himself and his family for his entire lifetime.
There is way too much demonizing going on in here--c'mon, GAF, I thought you were better than this.
Yeah, we disagreed with the guy on a lot of issues, but it's more than a little concerning to witness how easy it is for some of you to casually disregard (and, for some, relish in the demise of) the life of someone you disagree with.
I honestly can't tell if this is how some of you genuinely feel, or whether it might be some subconscious banner-waving for your ideology. Either way, cut it out
Cancer sucks. It sucks he got cancer. It sucks for his family. But seriously fuck him and his terrible political party and their terrible end game goals.
I think it's the other way around.
Jimmy Carter had melanoma, which while bad in its own right, has a better prognosis and more forms of treatment available for it than GBM. GBM's are a bitch; they don't respond well to most therapies for very long and they are extremely invasive, which along with their location, makes them all but impossible to fully excise. Most people diagnosed with GBM don't survive a year.
PatThePassive
Member
So he was a shitty politician that seems to be a requirement nowadays.
He still served and was a pow that's commendable enough for me to not cheer for his death.
Except it literally does have everything to do with brain cancer, breast cancer, every cancer that millions of Americans will eventually get that McCain and his party would have fucked over.
Shake Appeal
Member
It's possible and even okay to hold competing impulses and conflicting ideas.
Like, John McCain sucks, but I'm still sorry he has brain cancer. He does suck, though. A lot! He's terrible, actually. I hope he pulls through and comes to realize what a wicked little shitbird he is. Because I wouldn't wish brain cancer on anyone ... even John McCain, who sucks, remember, and should not ever have been in a position of power in American governance.
(Get well soon, asshole.)
Like, John McCain sucks, but I'm still sorry he has brain cancer. He does suck, though. A lot! He's terrible, actually. I hope he pulls through and comes to realize what a wicked little shitbird he is. Because I wouldn't wish brain cancer on anyone ... even John McCain, who sucks, remember, and should not ever have been in a position of power in American governance.
(Get well soon, asshole.)
Snowman Prophet of Doom
Member
I think many are experiencing whiplash because an understanding that politics are not necessarily coequal with character has been baked into American political philosophy for quite a long time, and people are not yet used to the fact that it is largely disintegrating as many of the contradictions at the heart of the country become more and more clear and "old ways" mean less and less.
Big Baybee
Member
Do you feel the same empathy for the people whose healthcare he wants to take away? Do you not understand the lack of empathy from their perspective?
minor effort
Banned
I'm not optimistic. That's just the nicest possible version of saying how I feel about the man.
I hope if he recovers he takes the opportunity to reflect on how he was able to afford his cancer treatment and the millions of Americans who he seeks to exclude from their own cancer treatments.
- Status