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John McCain has Brain Cancer

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Psychoward said:
I don't understand how people are still having a hard time empathizing with people who don't empathize with McCain but ok.
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There is a big difference between not empathizing and gloating and jeering over a cancer diagnosis.

Most right winger forums aren't even that pathetic.
 
McCain isn't a good person. I don't know if I'd call him a bad person, but at a minimum he's spineless, and it's hard for me to care that he has Brain Cancer. What happened to him as a PoW is horrible, but it doesn't give him a pass on everything else even as he's dying.

Not everybody deserves sympathy when they're sick or dying, not every life needs to be mourned. It doesn't mean I wish death on anybody, and I'm not glad he's sick, it's just hard for me to care.
 
Reading the Reddit thread about his diagnosis and someone mentioned that McCain's mom is still alive. Pretty crazy to think about, considering he's in his 80s (she's 105).
 
Wafflecakes said:
There is a big difference between not empathizing and gloating and jeering over a cancer diagnosis.

Most right winger forums aren't even that pathetic.
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link the posts then instead of writing off the entire thread/forum

also what right winger forums are you talking about, because every one I've seen is much much worse
 
Big Baybee said:
Do you feel the same empathy for the people whose healthcare he wants to take away? Do you not understand the lack of empathy from their perspective?
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I do for those currently screwed over and those that will be if it is repealed, I'm an american too I live in fear of ever going the hospital or finding out I have an illness.

But still I'm not gonna make this guy and his death a symbol of some fucked up karma or justice to validate my political beliefs or black and white view of the world.

This guy is dying that sucks, uninsured Americans are dying that sucks, its possible to feel empathy for both groups of what you may perceive as mortal enemies politically.
 
Shake Appeal said:
It's possible and even okay to hold competing impulses and conflicting ideas.

Like, John McCain sucks, but I'm still sorry he has brain cancer. He does suck, though. A lot! He's terrible, actually. I hope he pulls through and comes to realize what a wicked little shitbird he is. Because I wouldn't wish brain cancer on anyone ... even John McCain, who sucks, remember, and should not ever have been in a position of power in American governance.

(Get well soon, asshole.)
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Basically what I was going to say.
 
Aurongel said:
So that gives us the moral high ground to low key celebrate the suffering of someone from an opposing political party? I mean at some point here we can apply your logic to anyone who supports the Republican party and similarly dismiss or belittle any suffering they might incur as well. My question to you is: where do we draw the line?

His Republican vote means just as much as any other citizens. Now do we blame them as well when they have medical issues? Or are we only allowed to act this way towards politicians? It's a fair question to ask.
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Is this a joke, or are you being serious?
 
Piichan said:
You don't need to be an ex-president to not wish death upon people.
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Again with making bullshit up once again, it's amusing how you guys can't feel morally superior without bullshiting all the way. Saying "Fuck McCain" isn't "wish death upon people"

It's also a hilarious point to make since the motherfucking GOP doesn't only wish death upon people, they literally VOTE FOR IT.
 
Psychoward said:
"John McCain heavily leaning no" against a Republican proposal in 2017 has about as much weight to it as a toy poodle.
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Announcing that he is leaning no is a political move. He plans on using his vote as leverage to get amendments for AZ's Medicaid. He has no leverage if he just rolls over on this draft of the bill.
 
Aurongel said:
So that gives us the moral high ground to low key celebrate the suffering of someone from an opposing political party? I mean at some point here we can apply your logic to anyone who supports the Republican party and similarly dismiss or belittle any suffering they might incur as well. My question to you is: where do we draw the line?

His Republican vote means just as much as any other citizens. Now do we blame them as well when they have medical issues? Or are we only allowed to act this way towards politicians? It's a fair question to ask.
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No. It. Doesn't.

He's a US senator. His vote directly impacts whether we go to war,impeach the president, or have healthcare.

You could argue that he wouldn't be in office if he didn't pander to the people who put him in power and I agree but that doesn't mean he couldn't have deviated this one time. Especially seeing as how he had no intention to run for a another term even before his diagnosis.
 
I can't feel sympathy for someone who wants to take away people's healthcare when I've known someone suffer with cancer who didn't have the coverage to get treatment.

This man will get everything paid for by the tax payers.

If he were to get a miraculous recovery, he'd walk down to the floor of the senate and still vote to take healthcare away from people.

Sure, I could say "hope he recovers" but I feel nothing at all. What good does it do when all I'm going to remember him for after is the bad he helped support. "Feel better, but also sucks what you're doing to this country!"
 
Cancer sucks. I don't cheer for anyone's death. But it's hard for me to feel sympathy for someone who worked so hard to take so much from so many in need while he will get the most expensive healthcare in the world and never feel the impact of it. I don't wish he dies or anything like that. I just kinda feel numbness about it.
 
Wafflecakes said:
There is a big difference between not empathizing and gloating and jeering over a cancer diagnosis.

Most right winger forums aren't even that pathetic.
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Show the receipts.

And you guys are allowed to say what you want and feel what you want about him. But stop acting like everyone will feel the same.

McCain has show a huge lack of empathy in recent times, which makes this all the more ironic. He is the guy you should be mad at.
 
Glass Shark said:
Cancer sucks. I don't cheer for anyone's death. But it's hard for me to feel sympathy for someone who worked so hard to take so much from so many in need while he will get the most expensive healthcare in the world and never feel the impact of it.
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A person's legacy is what people will remember them for after they're gone. Many won't remember him as a hero after he goes. This will be his legacy. His legacy will be tainted with the party he was "concerned" over.
 
besada said:
Maybe everyone should spend less time policing each other's feelings and comments. People are allowed to have different perspectives. If you can't discuss those perspectives without insulting other posters, you should probably find somewhere else to be.
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Yeah alot of people are fighting their on health battles or know others that are that alone will have many different perspectives .
 
Nasbin said:
... McCain's legacy of bipartisanship.
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He has voted party line >85% of the time on average. He is a crotchety old fusspot who likes to goof around about bombing Iran and scratch his chin a little bit before mashing "yes, please, more of this" on standard GOP policy. His "maverick" reputation is a fiction largely based on that time during the 107th Congress when he only voted the party line two-thirds of the time.

Does he deserve our respect for serving, being tortured, being a swell father, whatever else? Absolutely!

Does his cancer render him and his awful, terrible, no-good, rubber-stamping political career immune from criticism? Nah.
 
PopeReal said:
Context? Does this person want healthcare for everyone? Yes or no.
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I'm not defending any prolifers or care about their politics, but what's the difference? If they believe abortion is murderer, every dead Democratic congressmen is one step closer to stopping it. Just like this thread.
 
Nasbin said:
Look at who is our fucking President and maybe reexamine your perspective if you're openly celebrating this as if John McCain were Roger fucking Ailes. The absurd, dehumanizing polarization evident in this thread is an insult to McCain's legacy of bipartisanship. That he became less rebelliousness in his old age, under the possible influence of a brain tumor, doesn't discount the entirety of a man's 30 year senate career.
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maybe you should look at his senate career voting record before calling him rebellious ever

also unless he had a brain tumor when it was 2007 and he helped start the rise of the current tea party/alt-right....
 
Shake Appeal said:
He has voted party line >85% of the time on average. He is a crotchety old fusspot who likes to goof around about bombing Iran and scratch his chin a little bit before mashing "yes, please, more of this" on standard GOP policy. His "maverick" reputation is a fiction largely based on that time during the 107th Congress when he only voted the party line two-thirds of the time.

Does he deserve our respect for serving, being tortured, being a swell father, whatever else? Absolutely!

Does his cancer render him and his awful, terrible, no-good, rubber-stamping political career immune from criticism? Nah.
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Exactly. He has done things I would never be able to do. Amazing.

And he has done things to others that I would never be able to do. Awful.

It is ok to hold one responsible for their actions, in both sickness and health.
 
Read it as 'John McClain' and got sad, then I read it again and stopped giving a shit. He gladly supports a man who would take away a persons ability to get their cancer treated,, all the while getting his treatment free of charge. Burn in hell you piece of shit.
 
Feel sorry for the man, wish he did more in the senate after his election loss to make his last couple years a bit more meaningful.
 
Prologue said:
John made some really odd and selfish decisions over the last few years and each and every time he did, I looked at him and wondered "Does he really not think he's going to die one day?"


And there it is. People seem to forget. This all ends one day and all we have is the decisions we make and the people we hurt in the process.
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Know this feeling, not just at John, but in general... I just don't get it.
 
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