What is the deal with awful people online and anime avatars?

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I particularly enjoy how defensive grown men can get when questioned on why they're choosing borderline pedophilic imagery for their avatars.

Creepy shit. Wish it wasn't tolerated around here.

Non waifu avis are cool but if you're all about presumably underaged animated Japanese school girls, sort that shit out.

It's like only men have these avatars/draw cute little 1000 year old girls/ etc. which is laughable.

Oddly enough, I don't have a problem with the actual pornography. Because:

1. It's up-front about its purpose and doesn't pretend to be anything more than it is, and

2. I never have to see it if I don't go out of my way to search for it.

It's the more insidious stuff that's being broadcast during daylight hours that really gets my goat. It's just shameless in a bad way. And, y'know, the fact that the fandom produces so much porn really makes me question why the fuck the producers feel the need to gratuitously sexualize their characters so much. It's so unnecessary it hurts.

I'd say more the latter for sure. Bonus creep points if it's from something with lots of lolicon pandering.

I am honestly interested which series runs during daylight which has scenes/characters like this. Are you speaking about Japan or your own country? Most of these series air on pay channel or at midnight. It's just the typical Otaku that support such series.
 
It's the more insidious stuff that's being broadcast during daylight hours that really gets my goat. It's just shameless in a bad way.

It's the early morning (12-4am) shit ad revenue, dirt cheap to buy timeslot where most seedy anime live and die

Actual waking hours stuff is usually benig stuff like one piece, Space Brothers, and yugi-oh

Naruto airs at 6pm on a weekday while Fate airs Sat at midnight for example
 
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Oddly enough, I don't have a problem with the actual pornography. Because:

1. It's up-front about its purpose and doesn't pretend to be anything more than it is, and

2. I never have to see it if I don't go out of my way to search for it.

It's the more insidious stuff that's being broadcast during daylight hours that really gets my goat. It's just shameless in a bad way. And, y'know, the fact that the fandom produces so much porn really makes me question why the fuck the producers feel the need to gratuitously sexualize their characters so much. It's so unnecessary it hurts.

sometimes i dont know why companies don't just go ahead and create some kind of spinoff with a higher rating, frontal nudity and sex scenes so they can just stop beating around the bush. I'll never complain about Hentai because at the very least, Hentai knows that it's indulging purely in fantasies.

But anime does this thing where it just makes no attempt to model people as actual people, and instead everyone is written into these terrible tropes that (i assume) you're just supposed to believe are real. And people who indulge too much in Anime start to believe that's how real life is supposed to work. And when they finally realize that it isn't, instead of breaking away from Anime and learning from real life, they just shun everything that doesn't agree with them.

No, being a boring, quiet, brooding asshole with self esteem issues is never going to make the hot girl with glasses, great grades, and a perfect figure (who's gone allegedly 18 years without anyone or anything ever informing her that she's universally attractive) take a crippling sexual interest in you. It's no wonder why they're typically misogynistic assholes.

No, it's not okay to be attracted to little girls. Sure, tiny girls, that is a thing. But little girls who dress, behave, sound, and emote like little girls, that is entirely different and will never not be creepy. And this is irrelevant anyway because no matter how small an adult woman is, she will never literally look like a 13 year old. Ever. Why does anime do this, why why why


I hate that i've had a falling out with anime, it was so fun being a fan, but it just doesn't appeal to me anymore. And I just can't connect with the people who kept with it after all these years anymore either
 
Lots of gamers / anime fans are socially awkward / rejected recluses who may harbor bitterness and blame towards society. Not too surprising there could be a disproportionate number of people ranging from oddballs to bigots in that lot.

It's important to not to slide into blaming the media for the media consumers though (similar to the "I hate veganism because some vegans are annoying" thread). A lot of games and anime are really good and worthwhile when judged on their own.
 
It always pisses me off to see these asshats spewing some pretty toxic shit and hiding behind a waifu avatar.

It hasn't at all affected my love and enjoyment for the medium but it certainly impacts how the average person may think of me.
 
I am honestly interested which series runs during daylight which has scenes/characters like this. Are you speaking about Japan or your own country? Most of these series air on pay channel or at midnight. It's just the typical Otaku that support such series.
It's the early morning (12-4am) shit ad revenue, dirt cheap to buy timeslot where most seedy anime live and die

Actual waking hours stuff is usually benig stuff like one piece, Space Brothers, and yugi-oh

Naruto airs at 6pm on a weekday while Fate airs Sat at midnight for example
Just checked and, yes, you're right, most of them (thankfully) air past 8 PM in Japan. Doesn't make me feel that much better considering how much crap is churned out, but at least the daylight anime avoid most of the worst shit (unfortunately, even the daylight shows often show some misogynist crap - but yes, that's a general societal problem).
sometimes i dont know why companies don't just go ahead and create some kind of spinoff with a higher rating, frontal nudity and sex scenes so they can just stop beating around the bush. I'll never complain about Hentai because at the very least, Hentai knows that it's indulging purely in fantasies.

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Yeah, pretty much agree with all of this.

It's actually really weird to me that full-on porn tends to get less of a budget than the borderline stuff. I wonder if there's an actual market bias there. Considering sales of 10k is considered good for most non-mainstream series I can only wonder.

At any rate... I haven't left the fandom entirely, but I can hardly blame anyone for doing so in light of all the crap that comes out and the way the fanbase defends it. It's especially not a good time when you're on the receiving end of the endless misogyny that permeates these groups.
 
Is it all anime avatars? :[
Or the weird underage girl avatars...

All anime avatars. Stop trying to find wiggle room to get yourself out of this. You're scum along with the rest of them.

Signed

Upstanding individual with a 4koma avatar
 
All anime avatars. Stop trying to find wiggle room to get yourself out of this. You're scum along with the rest of them.

Signed

Upstanding individual with a 4koma avatar
Yeah but what if I pick my avatar based on the manga instead of the anime?

There must be some loophole.
 
The only reason I don't have an anime avatar is because some people on neogaf would assume I'm some kinda monster when I'm just a late 20s mostly liberal cellular tech.

I'm a quarter native American and have black white and Asian friends that all enjoy the same anime and video games I do. So it's easier just to keep good ole X as my avatar.

But since I don't ever go to 4chan I don't really see the connection. Other than the overly moe/loli avatars seeming to be more defensive when it comes to their hobbies.

That being said I don't care what people like as long as no one gets hurt. If I don't like something I simply don't participate in it.
 
Nothing good has come out of anime, plain and simple. Whether it contributes to the basement dweller's alt-right mindset, pedophilia, or simply making them a weird ass weeb, it unleashes the worst found deep within the heart of man.
Whatever you say, man.
 
All anime avatars. Stop trying to find wiggle room to get yourself out of this. You're scum along with the rest of them.

Signed

Upstanding individual with a 4koma avatar

>4koma

that's weird i distinctly remember watching 64 eps of this 4koma

Puchimas is the best thing to come out of the iM@s cinematic universe so I'll allow you this exception, ANIME AVATAR
 
I don't get these attempts at defending anime by focusing on games. Is it too difficult to accept anime might have specific problems? And regardless - the amount of anime avatars is way too high, no one is saying there aren't awful people with gamimg, Hollywood, or whatever avatars.

And honestly GG is the exact same crowd - their mascot is an anime girl, they communicate in anime girl gifs, and they rage when creepy Japanese games get altered during localization.

The issue isn't anime having specific problems with it's media the issue is the righteous indignation and the blank slate assumption ignoring that most of that crowd also identifies as gamers e.g the hobby your on a enthuasitic forum of.

It's a total lack of self awareness from some people. Do you honestly think those people wearing anime avatars do not play a subtantial amount of video games? You guys are talking mostly about fucking gamers here.
 
Yeah but what if I pick my avatar based on the manga instead of the anime?

There must be some loophole.
I only read the manga of MHA but my impression was that the anime is more wholesome. At least that's what I'd assume after reading the artist's comments on the girls' designs after every chapter.
 
I only read the manga of MHA but my impression was that the anime is more wholesome. At least that's what I'd assume after reading the artist's comments on the girls' designs after every chapter.

It's not, but there isn't really a big disparity either.
 
We're not a monolith, so of course there are some fucked up people in anime fandom. I once saw a 4chan poster cheering on an active shooter using a picture of Gon and Killua. That shit had me all fucked up.
 
I want to preface this by saying that there absolutely are white supremacists, racists, and other unsavory people using anime avatars, and that I in no way endorse their beliefs or views. I am, and have always been a liberal, and a firm believer that neither a person's skin color, ethnicity, religion, or even interests and hobbies, are grounds for discriminating them, or considering them as somehow "less human."

I am, myself, also a member of an underrepresented population, as I am gender fluid/genderqueer, though I lived, worked, and generally existed as a woman (I'm biologically male), up to and including having legally changed my name from male to female, for four years. However, I later realized that I am not as much transgendered/transexual, as a I am, again, gender fluid/genderqueer. I faced harassment every year I lived as a woman, up to and including being groped and having the skirt of my dress lifted by a group of men at a Halloween party.

Having made that preface, let me just say I have been an anime fan since I was probably 10. I own over 50 full anime series, plus movies, on DVD and Blu Ray. My first anime was Galaxy Express 999, which I caught on Toonami way back in the day and resulted in my falling in love with the medium. I'm 33 now. Anime has been hugely influential in my life, as the worlds, characters, lore, technology, magic, and stories of them have been some of my foremost inspirations as a writer and artist, up there with video games, movies, and books.

I am not a racist, nor have I ever held white supremacist beliefs or supported racist causes. As I said, I am a firm believer in equality between people of all ethnicities, skin colors, genders, classes, etc. and hope that someday, I will be in a professional or financial situation where I will personally and directly be able to do something, whether manually through work or financially through my income, to further the cause of promoting justice and equality for everyone, especially among non-white, non-cisgendered populations.

I have not read this whole topic, but I take great offense to the broad strokes some people are using to paint all anime fans as socially awkward, mother's basement dwellers, etc. up to and including being racists.

The people making these statements are not acting like progressive, equality-supporting individuals if they are using broad strokes to paint people at all.

Racism and prejudice, though far, far, far more severe than making broad, sweeping statements about anime fans is using roughly the same mechanism as these people are using to classify all anime fans as being socially awkward, up to and including racist.

They are generalizations applied to people, and the disparaging statements applied equally to all anime fans, regardless of said fans' own personal beliefs or actions, are basically 'prejudice light,' in that the people making the statements are pre-judging all anime fans and not basing statements about them on the specifics of individuals, but to a single trait -- in this case liking anime.

How can you call yourself progressive if you are judging everyone who partakes in something as shallow as a hobby the same way? Isn't being a liberal about standing up for injustice and calling out those who support inequality and injustice, not about judging people about what media they enjoy?

Saying "all anime fans are _____" is no different than someone saying "all gamers are _____" or "all sports fans are _____." Explain to me how this is productive or justifiable?

Yes, there are many horrible people -- racists, white supremacists, sexists, etc. -- who watch anime and use anime avatars online. But that conversely does not mean that all anime fans are horrible people, as racists, sexists, or what have you.

Additionally, I personally see white supremacists co-opting anime characters to represent themselves online as a form of cultural appropriation. These people are using characters from a traditionally Japanese media, watched by fans of anime culture around the world.

Since when is cultural appropriation the fault of the thing being appropriated and not on the individual appropriators?

Anime in and of itself is not evil. Yes, it can be sexist, as there are anime out there that depict women as little more than eye candy or sex objects, and I assume some anime can even be racist (though I have not experienced this). But that does not mean all anime are those things, or that all anime is bad.

It's fine to not like anime. But anime is no different than things like gaming or sports, in that it is a form of entertainment. Anime is made and watched by people, just like how video games are made and played by people, and how sports are played and watched by people. And as we know, people can be awful. There are racists and white supremacists who make and play video games, who play and watch sports. But you don't see people saying things like "video games are evil" or "sports are evil" on the internet as much as you see people saying an analogue of "anime is evil." Why is that?

Anyway, in closing, please think before you judge a person for something as shallow as a hobby. Judge them instead (if you must judge them at all) for what they believe, say, and do in their lives. Judge a white supremacist for being a white supremacist, not for being an anime fan. How is a white supremacist using an anime character as an avatar any different than one using a character from a video game, or the logo of their favorite sports team, as their avatar?

Thank you for reading.
 
The weirdest part about My Hero Academia is that it practically has a character dedicated to sexual harassment. I can't get over that. The series would be better without it
 
I'm not trying to backseat mod, but I am surprised that we still have this discussion. You are now being judged because you have an Anime avatar? I mean, yeah there are bad and good anime depending on your perspective, but what am I seeing in this thread is a generalization of people who enjoys Japanese animated shows. So what's next, we would judge people because they have a black celebrity as their avatar?
 
I'm not trying to backseat mod, but I am surprised that we still have this discussion. You are now being judged because you have an Anime avatar? I mean, yeah there are bad and good anime depending on your perspective, but what am I seeing in this thread is a generalization of people who enjoys Japanese animated shows. So what's next, we would judge people because they have a black celebrity as their avatar?
I mean some of the saying this has anime avatars
 
I only read the manga of MHA but my impression was that the anime is more wholesome. At least that's what I'd assume after reading the artist's comments on the girls' designs after every chapter.
Not by much just characters being slightly skinny, nothing you probably wouldn't notice unless you look for it
 
I'm not trying to backseat mod, but I am surprised that we still have this discussion. You are now being judged because you have an Anime avatar? I mean, yeah there are bad and good anime depending on your perspective, but what am I seeing in this thread is a generalization of people who enjoys Japanese animated shows. So what's next, we would judge people because they have a black celebrity as their avatar?

I don't get it.

Wait what character is that? Stopped reading it about the villains arcs

That grape kid I'm assuming (forgot his name)

Not by much just characters being slightly skinny, nothing you probably wouldn't notice unless you look for it

This.

I'm guessing Dragon Ball doesn't count.

It's a classic, you're safe.
 
The weirdest part about My Hero Academia is that it practically has a character dedicated to sexual harassment. I can't get over that. The series would be better without it

Anime has an endless amount characters similar to Mineta. He's the token pervert of the series.
 
Good luck trying to convince people on a video game forum that the art and media they consume has an affect on them.
 
It's Sarcasm. Why would you judge someone with a black avatar? Same thing with someone with an Anime avatar?

Well, a lot of white supremacists would have no qualms with wearing an anime avatar on social media.

An avatar of a black celebrity though? I can't imagine that, unless it was a caricature.
 
It's Sarcasm. Why would you judge someone with a black avatar? Same thing with someone with an Anime avatar?
While people are going overboard you get a lot of assholes and racists with anime avatars

Not much with black celebrities

Again obvious #NotAllAnimeAvatars
 
I don't even consume anime and manga as much as I did when I was younger. Its hard to do this when you have a job and responsibilities.

I love anime and manga but like with everything... moderation is key.

Minato is my avatar because he's symbolizes everything I love about Persona games.

And yeah. There are people on this site who judge others for having anime avatars.

Edit: But I also do like my Nightwing avatar too. Lol
 
Shit. I just discovered them a couple years ago being a fan of cartoons and traditional animation. I was impressed, but I guess I became an anime fan and didn't even notice.

You know what this means, anime avatar, bodypillows, and a copy of mein kampf will soon become yours.

/s
 
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