allintospace
Member
I imagine there will be no official Valve response to this written tale, as it would only give it more weight.
Marc Laidlaw reveals Half-Life 2 Episode 3's story synopsis
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Take it back
The BreenGrub twitter account, written by Marc Laidlaw, actually implied that the Vortigaunts have their own agenda and are not really "the forces of good".
2007 me thought Blizzard and Valve were the best, most reliable developers in the game and could do no wrong, while I was losing faith in Nintendo.
10 years later, it's the opposite.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
They're sure acting like it.
After 10 years, its time to get over it.
And spoilers:
The good guys win.
I kinda am.
Wish MumboJumbo would at least sell the IP to Nightdive Studios or something.It was an example. There were also a few folks making fat jokes about Gabe earlier on in this thread, along with other unpleasant insinuations.
This still stings
There was a lot of promise in that first episode.
paperspace
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Valve loved gambling revenue even more than Konami, since they abided the inclusion of minors on the action of CSGO betting.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
You paid for it based on a lie, though. Again, they sold Episode 1 & 2 as parts of a trilogy. THEY made the deal. Fans didn't tell them they needed to make a trilogy, THEY told fans it needed to be a trilogy.
They didn't deliver their end of the deal. That is all there is to it. Congrats to you for being a good little consumer who doesn't believe customers should expect what they're promised.
But... they don't?
Acting like it would be using Valve for breach of contract. Right now this situation is going according to spec of customers upset that a long awaited product that was promised to them won't be delivered.
Haha, he thinks the good guys wins in Half Life.
Sometimes I think that not enjoying Half-Life or Half-Life 2 (and I played them at the time) was one of the greatest blessings of my time spent in this hobby.
The pain I've seen these fans endure these long years, only to have it end like this... thank goodness I was spared it. I couldn't have taken being both a Metroid and Half-Life fan at the same time, no sir.
The pain I've seen these fans endure these long years, only to have it end like this... thank goodness I was spared it. I couldn't have taken being both a Metroid and Half-Life fan at the same time, no sir.
And this bothers you because?
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
O fucking please. People are pissed because they've been deliberately lied to.
Ban Puncher
Member
cybercircuit1
Member
Fixed that for you there, good sir.
edit: Just looked it up. Seriously 17 years since MML2, good lord.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Well, humanity effectually
1) Cut off access for the Combine to ever come back to Earth, baring their own advancement in portal technology.
2) Denied an the asset that would have allowed them to return to Earth, and travel across space and time.
Earth still has to deal with the remaining Combine left, it's probably in a constant, decade long war of uprising and resistance. The Combine are still left and shown to be a nearly unstoppable force, but for now Earth is free from the main empire.
Foxy the Fox
Member
In 2007 I was one year away from my last year of high school, played HL since the beginning in the 90's (yeah, M rated but my parents didn't cared) and saw those gaben interviews when he says that next year they are going to launch the last episode of the trilogy.
Now I finished university, got a degree and already had three jobs.
Can't believe I saw the ending on a blogpost on my cellphone taking breakfast before going to work.
Hope someone could make it into a SFM movie.
Now I finished university, got a degree and already had three jobs.
Can't believe I saw the ending on a blogpost on my cellphone taking breakfast before going to work.
Hope someone could make it into a SFM movie.
What does Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze Definitive Edition have to do with Half-Life?
I have to laugh at these "entitlement" arguments. The Half Life Episode 3 situation is basically just like going to a restaurant and ordering food, and then having the waiter disappear and bring neither your food, your bill, or any kind of update on what's going on.
I guess if you're a stickler for legality alone, then no, no one is entitled to anything. But there's no way to deny that it's just plain shitty how Valve have managed the whole series. There OUGHT to be some kind of closure to be had (in game or out of it), no way around it. Whether you want to use the word "entitled" is a personal decision, but there's really no way to frame Valve as having done the right thing here.
I guess if you're a stickler for legality alone, then no, no one is entitled to anything. But there's no way to deny that it's just plain shitty how Valve have managed the whole series. There OUGHT to be some kind of closure to be had (in game or out of it), no way around it. Whether you want to use the word "entitled" is a personal decision, but there's really no way to frame Valve as having done the right thing here.
Do you have it? I would love to see it.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Not going to happen. This will follow the company even after Gabe and everyone else who ever touched Half-Life are gone. That's what happens when you make promises with a property millions of people loved, and then fail to fulfill them.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Because I've had to read their whining for years. They have the end of the story now. Its time to move on.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Yay, so that's it. It's all over. We can rest in peace now. Cool. Can't wait to see someone turn this into a game or mod someday.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
I don't even understand why a company like Valve is so reluctant to make Half-Life 3.
For a company like Valve, there's literally no reason for them to be so risk-averse:
- they're a privately owned company
- the own the monopoly on PC digital distribution for games
- Steam prints money
- they have a number of first party developed games that print money (TF2, DOTA2)
- Steam prints money
- Steam prints money
They are in the most enviable position of any game development company (despite the fact that technically they barely qualify as a games developer anymoresince they barely develop games). They have once of the largest, most hardcore, most enthusiastic fanbase followings of any platform holder (they basically ARE PC gaming for a lot of PC gamers).
If Valve made Half-Life 3 today, even if it was a flawed but great game, it would be heralded as the second-coming of Christ and would sell literal gangbusters of the order of Blizzard or Rockstar's games.
Most games developers today wish they had a cash cow like Steam under their belt, so that they could take more risks producing more and more creative games. In reality, however, it seems that developers like Valve and Blizzard that have these major money-printing cash-cows, tend to be some of the most risk averse companies in all of gaming.... it honestly makes no sense to me (well... it makes perfect sense from a business perspective, but from a doe-eyed, naive gamer perspective, for companies like these where money isn't an issue, I'd really want them to be the ones pushing the medium forwards and they aren't).
For a company like Valve, there's literally no reason for them to be so risk-averse:
- they're a privately owned company
- the own the monopoly on PC digital distribution for games
- Steam prints money
- they have a number of first party developed games that print money (TF2, DOTA2)
- Steam prints money
- Steam prints money
They are in the most enviable position of any game development company (despite the fact that technically they barely qualify as a games developer anymoresince they barely develop games). They have once of the largest, most hardcore, most enthusiastic fanbase followings of any platform holder (they basically ARE PC gaming for a lot of PC gamers).
If Valve made Half-Life 3 today, even if it was a flawed but great game, it would be heralded as the second-coming of Christ and would sell literal gangbusters of the order of Blizzard or Rockstar's games.
Most games developers today wish they had a cash cow like Steam under their belt, so that they could take more risks producing more and more creative games. In reality, however, it seems that developers like Valve and Blizzard that have these major money-printing cash-cows, tend to be some of the most risk averse companies in all of gaming.... it honestly makes no sense to me (well... it makes perfect sense from a business perspective, but from a doe-eyed, naive gamer perspective, for companies like these where money isn't an issue, I'd really want them to be the ones pushing the medium forwards and they aren't).
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
You must be really furious with GOT book readers then if this is what gets you mad!
They said they were making 3 episodes. Sticking up for Valve in not releasing more Half Life after a decade is beyond what I thought anyone on GAF was capable of, but clearly we're there.
Is it unreasonable to expect story conclusion in something that was promised to fans? We're not talking about a series that nobody cared about and didn't make any money. If a developer cans a series that didn't sell that's something else entirely.
I bought Half Life 2 episodes 1 and 2 under the impression that I would get to finish the trilogy because Valve stated it was a trilogy. So yes I have the right to complain because that's false advertising. And Fuck anyone that sides with the company over the consumer. Get your brain checked, Valve isn't your friend and consumers have every right to criticize and complain.
Regginator
Member
I hope this is the final nail in the coffin and Valve finally has the balls to outright say "sorry, but Half Life is dead".
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Fortunately I don't read that series lol.
Interesting, because nobody forced you to read any of it.
I like the games, but in 2017 would a new sequel really be the big deal people here are predicting? I mean outside enthusiast forums, and the novelty news value of another long-dead franchise coming back to life, who cares?
The first game came out more than 20 years ago. We're living and working alongside people who weren't even born when HL1 came out.
I'm pretty sure that if HL3 was announced tomorrow, the majority reaction would be "what's that?"
They were all good games, it's true, but the FPS genre has rebooted itself so often since then, what as-yet unmet need would it fulfil?
12:00 HL3 announced
12:02 first forum posts "I'm worried about the direction HL3 is going in"
12:03 "HL3 is not what I was expecting"
12:04 "the character models are a bit low resolution"
12:05 "I don't like the new mechanics"
12:06 "HL3 is pandering to political correctness"
12:07 "HL3 has no soul"
12:09 "I wish HL3 had stayed cancelled"
The first game came out more than 20 years ago. We're living and working alongside people who weren't even born when HL1 came out.
I'm pretty sure that if HL3 was announced tomorrow, the majority reaction would be "what's that?"
They were all good games, it's true, but the FPS genre has rebooted itself so often since then, what as-yet unmet need would it fulfil?
12:00 HL3 announced
12:02 first forum posts "I'm worried about the direction HL3 is going in"
12:03 "HL3 is not what I was expecting"
12:04 "the character models are a bit low resolution"
12:05 "I don't like the new mechanics"
12:06 "HL3 is pandering to political correctness"
12:07 "HL3 has no soul"
12:09 "I wish HL3 had stayed cancelled"
LizardSnob
Neo Member
I'll never forget this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=632kyLysP6c
No they aren't, you're just being an ass.
People care about the media they enjoy, wow shocking.
afternoon delight
Member
That would have been awesome....
Go fuck yourself Valve.
Go fuck yourself Valve.
Because they're cunts. Buy a chest.
JasonUresti
Member
You never had to read anything. You chose to.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I mean, you could just not go into the threads. It will certainly get you further than telling people to get over it, which is guaranteed to get you nowhere ever in life.
But, I do kind of agree with your last sentence. This really does bring on some feelings of closure. That's what people have wanted.
Why Valve has chosen for silence to be their official statement on HL is what has fueled all this anger for years. Things don't go away if you refuse to address them long enough.
I see more people disappointed that they won't be able to experience a sequel to a game/series they loved than people who are talking about how "important" or "culturally relevant" that sequel would be. I doubt most people care about the latter than they do about the former.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
Member
I always wondered if GNs visceral reaction to Windows 8 (And more directly, the Windows Store itself) was a solid indication of where his focus and the focus of Valve were at and the subtext here seems to confirm those fears. Valve really doesn't seem interested in big, bold projects anymore now that they can sit back and collect income on microtransactions.