Trump is "the worst he's ever been, questions when things will get better"

I know this is a controversial opinion, but i hope Trump stays in power for the full 4 years as an incompetent figurehead people can concentrate their ire on. You don't want the VP as the President, he'd be far more successful at getting his agenda passed with the GOP majority than a political and mental incompetent like Trump

I'm torn. While you're right, it would also be nice to have a intelligent, competent president in Pence, whom I may largely not agree with politically, over Trump.
 
He thinks his job is like 10% effort and 90% optics and thus he allocates his effort in the job.
But it doesn't work this way, especially if only idiots, psychopaths or idiotic psychopaths fall for his optics.
 
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The plea from Trump to this thread reads 'WHY? All I want to do is #MAGA!'.
 
Americans, would you take him resigning and being pardoned by his successor? Do you really want justice or just him out of the picture?

If he did it now, I would take saving the country from three years of his fuckery over "justice", even if it meant he walks away Scott-free.

He waits until 2020? Yeah, fuck that noise.
 
Someone should've told him it's the most height profile, thankless job on the planet. It's like anyone can criticize you for your every action and there is no privacy...... Wait a second
 
No worries, just resign. Go play golf, watch TV, and tweet most of the day...you know, like you do right now.

...And pray that Mueller drops the investigation into your finances as a result.
 
An idiot acts like an idiot while people dumb enough to vote for him wonder why the idiot continues to make them look dumb.
 
I'm torn. While you're right, it would also be nice to have a intelligent, competent president in Pence, whom I may I largely may not agree with politically, over Trump.

The "demeanor factor" is very overrated in American politics and it scares me.. He wants to kill the lower classes and brown people maybe more than Trump does, just like the rest of them. However, he has a nice smile and a slick suit so he can't be as bad? Atleast with Trump we can clearly point him out as the evil he is. Pence would be 100% smarter about it and much more successful.
 
What accomplishments?

Getting a regressive SCOTUS was a guarantee the moment the cheetos was elected with a majority in Senate and House.

There's nothing here, unless you count fracturing the country, scaring minorities to death, signing a crapton of executive orders that can be reversed on day 1 of another President or doing the opposite of all the good things Obama stood for as "accomplishments".

The Dow also isn't an accomplishment btw, still coasting on the Obama era recovery, and Wall Street having a hard on at the mere idea of getting less regulations for polution, employment or salaries.

Just a big fat nothing.
 
Off topic, but I’m sitting in a diner right now and the conversation two Trump supporters are having in the booth behind me is incredible.

Did you all know that illegal immigration is up by 170% and the border wall will drop it to zero? There’s a factoid with no context for ya.

I’ve also heard the phrase “both sides” at least 20 times.
 
Someone needs to tell him "Hey, if things were this bad, Obama wouldn't have resigned, he would have just stayed and made things even worse. You don't want to stick around like Obama would have, would you?!"

Dude would resign within hours.
 
No worries, just resign. Go play golf, watch TV, and tweet most of the day...you know, like you do right now.

...And pray that Mueller drops the investigation into your finances as a result.

Pence may pardon him on Federal crimes, but Mueller would still roast him alive on State ones.
 
The "demeanor factor" is very overrated in American politics and it scares me.. He wants to kill the lower classes and brown people maybe more than Trump does, just like the rest of them. However, he has a nice smile and a slick suit so he can't be as bad? Atleast with Trump we can clearly point him out as the evil he is.
I'm with you.

And unless there's a tape of Trump diddling underage girls that comes out, I don't see ~20 GOP senators voting to remove him from office in any sort of impeachment trial. They won't remove him for plain ol' boring collusion; his supporters are too powerful within the party, and they don't want to piss them off.
 
The "demeanor factor" is very overrated in American politics and it scares me.. He wants to kill the lower classes and brown people maybe more than Trump does, just like the rest of them. However, he has a nice smile and a slick suit so he can't be as bad? Atleast with Trump we can clearly point him out as the evil he is. Pence would be 100% smarter about it and much more successful.

Again, I don't agree with Pence politically either, but I would certainly much rather have him dealing with foreign/international issues and concerns, over Trump.

Thus why I'm torn.
 
Wow right on cue:

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The plea from Trump to this thread reads 'WHY? All I want to do is #MAGA!'.

This is probably what Obama felt like for 8 years.

Except with an actual good fucking reason because people like Trump were heading hate movements like the birther bullshit and using his twitter account with millions of followers to get people to discredit Obama no matter what he did.

How does it feel? You fuck.
 
I'm torn. While you're right, it would also be nice to have a intelligent, competent president in Pence, whom I may largely not agree with politically, over Trump.

Err, Pence is neither intelligent nor competent.

Just because Trump is a shambling disaster, it doesn't mean you need to lower the bar here.
 
So that guy was right. He will resign himself.
I hope he will be impeached before that though. He needs to realize in some way that is horrible. Truly horrible. As a human being and as a president.

"When is it going to be better?" After you fuck off, you useless piece of shit.
 
I also must ask how banning transgender people from the armed forces makes America great again. Why was it not great before?

Making America Great Again

Focus on again.
Going back to how something was is not progress, is regression.

Everything he thinks is an achievement is actually something shitty he done in the eyes of everyone else
 
Off topic, but I’m sitting in a diner right now and the conversation two Trump supporters are having in the booth behind me is incredible.

Did you all know that illegal immigration is up by 170% and the border wall will drop it to zero? There’s a factoid with no context for ya.

I’ve also heard the phrase “both sides” at least 20 times.

I kind of see them repeating "both sides" as a good thing oddly enough. It's like doubt is finally starting to set in. They have to keep repeating it to get assurances that their side isn't the fraked up one. Yeah but both sides. Both sides right? Both sides. Both sides.
 
As for Bannon, people close to the president argue that because Trump serves as his own chief strategist, his position was ultimately redundant.

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Lame-duck New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, insiders said, is still angling for a position in the administration. “I’m always there for the president, we speak regularly,” Christie said in an interview with Fox News on Tuesday when asked about a potential formal role in the administration.

Jesus Christ, Chris. Have some self-respect.

“He feels like this is not what he signed up for, and his accomplishments are being underplayed,” the person added.

What accomplishments?
 
You're going to be hated for life now, even when your dumb ass is out of office. It will get better when you're dead.
Hes going to be do the same thing after he gets out of office that he did before being elected (or if he didnt get elected). Act as a leader for 20 million lunatics and incite them to action through twitter.
 
The "demeanor factor" is very overrated in American politics and it scares me.. He wants to kill the lower classes and brown people maybe more than Trump does, just like the rest of them. However, he has a nice smile and a slick suit so he can't be as bad? Atleast with Trump we can clearly point him out as the evil he is. Pence would be 100% smarter about it and much more successful.

This. As a Democrat, Trump is pretty much your best case scenario if you have to have a Republican president. Any Rep with any shot at president is just as scummy, but Trump is too incompetent to get anything done. And enough of a dumbass to give the party a bad name. People shouldn't want him to resign. Pence has a much better shot in 2020 as well.
 
You have to admit - being obviously the least competent president in American history with not even a year served is a remarkable accomplishment without peer.
 
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