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Destiny 2 |OT| Here We Go Again

Luke on Shaders:
https://twitter.com/thislukesmith/status/905863339103838208

Shaders are earned through gameplay: leveling, chests, engrams, vendors. We expect you'll be flush w/ Shaders as you continue to play. (1/4)

When you reach level 20, Shaders will drop more often: vendor rewards, destination play and endgame activities. (2/4)

Shaders are now an ongoing reward for playing. Customization will inspire gameplay. Each planet has unique armor and Shader rewards. (3/4)

With D2, we want statements like "I want to run the Raid, Trials, or go back to Titan to get more of its Shader" to be possible. (4/4)

So no change
 
Finished the story (which was great) at lvl 20 and there's still so much to do. Night and Day difference to Destiny 1. I also got a sweet exotic helmet for my Titan
 
So I'm currently at 223, what exactly is the best way to go about getting better gear? I've just been doing random stuff but not sure if there's a better way: strikes maybe?

I think it might be picking your favourite planet and farming tokens via lost sectors and public events. This also rewards a lot of spare gear to be broken down.
 
For whatever reason, the shader changes are not bothering me and I tried to collect them all in the first one. Can't say I'll feel the same in a few weeks once I get more armor that I'm more likely to wear all the time.
 
Luke on Shaders:
https://twitter.com/thislukesmith/status/905863339103838208

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So no change

Incredibly disappointing.
 
For whatever reason, the shader changes are not bothering me and I tried to collect them all in the first one. Can't say I'll feel the same in a few weeks once I get more armor that I'm more likely to wear all the time.

I think Luke's point here is that by that point, you wont only have 5 copies of your favorite shader, you'll have 50 and the consumability won't matter AND you'll know how and where to get it if you do run out.
 
For whatever reason, the shader changes are not bothering me and I tried to collect them all in the first one. Can't say I'll feel the same in a few weeks once I get more armor that I'm more likely to wear all the time.
I don't mind it. Only thing that irks my right now is all the shaders I've seen so far look meh.
 
I'm about to install the game on XB1 and should have two hours to play if any other newbs want to team up. GT = psyfi.
 
Incredibly disappointing.

I really don't agree.

I like how it makes shaders more than garbage that fills up inventory.

The perceived value is higher.

I also like how it will make you commit to a look and end up having different armor sets that have rare shaders on them.

It will probably also create more diversity.

I like that.
 
"Shaders are now an ongoing reward for playing."

There were so many shaders in Destiny 1 that I never came close to getting them all. I got new ones the last time I played. They already felt like an ongoing reward for playing, along with the high volume of sparrows and ships.

Conceptually, we shouldn't be having to re-earn the same loot over and over again.
 
"Shaders are now an ongoing reward for playing."

There were so many shaders in Destiny 1 that I never came close to getting them all. I got new ones the last time I played. They already felt like an ongoing reward for playing, along with the high volume of sparrows and ships.

Conceptually, we shouldn't be having to re-earn the same loot over and over again.
Yup, it's really just blatantly greedy.
 
holy shit it's a picture how did twitter do that
that's amazing

Hope you don't mind me tweaking your post in a quote. :P

I really don't agree.

I like how it makes shaders more than garbage that fills up inventory.

The perceived value is higher.

I also like how it will make you commit to a look and end up having different armor sets that have rare shaders on them.

It will probably also create more diversity.

I like that.

Wait. Huh? I misread this as sarcasm at first. They were never garbage before. And they didnt' fill up your inventory. There was a kiosk. If anything your inventory is more full. And who wanted commitment with a shader? These are totally alien concerns to me.
 
How so? Can you buy specific shaders with real money or just more chances to get random ones?

Because his point is that if I want a Nessus shader I like, I should play lots of Nessus.



lol of course not, thank you actually

I believe you have a chance to get shaders from the Bright Engrams, which you can buy with real money.
 
I'm torn on the shader thing. Half of me wants the ability to throw "sparkle pony" (just an example) on everything. But, half of me really digs the "reward" aspect of them where you earn them and have to seek them out.

Solution: If there was a shader shop where you could buy more of any color you've already found or earned in game for "x-amount of glimmer"... i think that would be the best compromise.
 

Disappointing,

I'd love to see him address how this system of customization works against expanding your available gear, but I guess he would probably consider that already answered with the statement "Shaders are now an ongoing reward for playing."

Much like D1, to be a completionist looks to be something placed well outside the intent of casual play, with completionist now potentially meaning having a matching outfit.
 
lol wtf, just completed the walker event and then the chest disappeared while I was picking up loot. Got both walkers too
 
I believe you have a chance to get shaders from the Bright Engrams, which you can buy with real money.

So under the system Luke is describing, it's not greedy. It's the same as any other microtransaction designed to circumvrent actual gameplay. It sucks, but it's not specifically "greedy" in this context, any more than other microtransactions in general.
 
Ok im on titan

Game is definitely a looker

But what the hell with that water ? 🙄🙄
 
I'm fine with shaders being drops. I'm fine with having to earn them. We have 3 weapon slots, 4 armor slots and a ship slot to color now. And that's before you factor in multiple load outs and multiple characters.

Just remove the one-time use requirement.

I'm approaching end game and have 100+ shaders
I get that people don't like the change but it's not as bad as it's made out to be. Just different.

Same. But I have 3x of each, which isn't near enough. And I don't know where half of them came from. So I don't feel like I can use any of them.
 
On the shaders. I am lvl 20/225 and have about 20 different colors to choose from, with 3-8 for each. They're definitely dropping frequently.
 
Ok im on titan

Game is definitely a looker

But what the hell with that water ? 🙄🙄

Titan water looks damn cool.


Really? Titan is like my least favorite place so far visually.
Oh look...an oil rig with a yellow hue and space waves.
I guess the rain is okay, but I felt the rain effect was much more impressive looking in the opening mission on the giant ship.
 
Could care less about shaders. Never bought Overwatch/Heroes of the Storm/Street Fighter costumes why should I buy colors. This is the exact same thing, they just couldn't figure out they could monetize them when OG D1 launched because the microtransaction store didn't launch until a year later.

They don't make you 'gud'
 
"Shaders are now an ongoing reward for playing."

There were so many shaders in Destiny 1 that I never came close to getting them all. I got new ones the last time I played. They already felt like an ongoing reward for playing, along with the high volume of sparrows and ships.

Conceptually, we shouldn't be having to re-earn the same loot over and over again.
Conceptually, you described mats.
 
Still waiting on my PC copy but from what I'm reading as long as they aren't too hard to get once you hit max level, I don't really have a problem with it.

People are going to attach onto something to whine about with a game as big as D2..compared to the problems in the first game this feels pretty minor.
 
So the only negatives so far for me:

Shader issue is stupid design choice, but one I can live with.

Lack of new customization is unforgivable.

Hit detection issues. Blatant ones. I have literally shot standing still enemies in both campaign and in PvP, where no damage is done. Impossible to miss and nothing occurs. Seems to happen if you are in motion or fire too quickly with certain weapon types. i.e hand cannon and scout rifle.

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Rest of the game delivers so damn well. The soundtrack is one of the finest in any genre. The mystery going on with the races, the world, etc is familiar yet fresh again for motives for all these enemies.

I have yet to fire a gun that didn't feel super satisfying.

If I had to give it a score from someone who played hundreds of hours of D1, then it is 8.5/10. The character customization thing really is a giant piss on players looking for more attachment to their character considering how fucking ugly your options really are. Like others my character from D1 looks strange into D2, so I went Exo as they look the least scarred by the new game's lighting system which I imagine is the culprit.

However, if they add more customization later on, even if it's a Eververse thing and beards to boot, and fix the hit detection thing quickly, then I'd bump it to 9.5.
 
More ending and other things spoilers
A good theory I read was that it's the World Eater which I believe is a Hive thing. It lines up with the Exotic weapon quest line for an exotic power weapon you get post game

I think it's something different
the world eater is most likely that worm like thing that's in some of the cutscenes and is also likely the leviathan raid. I think the prism people come after the Cabal are done. They might be Hive from some of the rumours floating around
 
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