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[jtb]

Fucking finally, a Youtuber calls Pewdiepie out. The dude's actions led to adpocalyse and now he's doubling down on causing more damage to the Youtube platform for content creators. Good on DanNerdCubed.

It's too bad he can't call PDP what it's patently obvious he's been (and it's been obvious for a while!):

a fucking R A C I S T

an asshole is someone who doesn't tip after a shitty meal

 

[pagrab]

It is especially horrible that she later "apologises" and rephrases his words using the word "asshole" as if it was a synonymous.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Just want to be clear.

99.99% of the time, saying nigger isn't a slip of tongue, it's a slip of the filter between public and private speaking where you won't be rightfully shit on and called a racist for using such disgusting language.

Let alone the fact he has a public history of racist behavior.

If you're defending him because of "benefit of doubt", you're a shit head who is too lazy to understand context of this.

 

[GhostTrick]

I'm shocked that PDP is the racist douchebag we thought he was.

And for the defenders in here, when you call someone a "nigger" because they did something you didn't like? That's fucking racist. You may not wear a Klan hood, and you may not cheer when black people get shot, but that's fucking racism. You don't get to dip your toes in it and claim you aren't a part of the problem.

This can't be highlighted enough. I think the thread title should be edited. He didnt just used the n-word, he said "fuckin n*gg*r" as an insult, a racial slur.
When you call someone a "fuckin n-word" to insult said person... Well guess what, that makes you a racist.

 

[Upinsmoke]

Not surprised. He's a massive bellend.

Not the first time he's said that, kinda rolled off the tongue effortlessly.

 

[Permanently A]

It feels hugely telling that the YouTubers calling him out are doing so because they're worried they might make less money now. 🤔

I didn't even pick up on that. Man I fucking hate people

I feel like this forum is one of the last few sane places on the internet honestly. thanks for existing, you guys

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

Got some dude on my Twitter timeline saying him using nigger when he is annoyed isn't racist. Then says he and his mates say it now and again when they are pissed of gaming. 🤔

Introspection is hard. The word "racist" is kryptonite to white folks who consider themselves good people.

 

[BurritoBushido]

Ian Miles Cheong doesn't miss a beat in defending racism!

I never heard of this guy before this week but he's 2 for 2 on being a real piece of shit.

 

[JordanN]

Yeah... the fuck happened? Why are people on the internet that like games so angry?

Gaming has always been a sheltered hobby. Even with big events like e3, it's always been about nerds interacting with other nerds.

With the arrival of 4chan and message boards, it basically turned into an outlet for nerds to start screaming terrible things at each other, and the rest of the world is mostly kept out in the dark about it.

This is in spite of the fact we now have alt-right figures infiltrating gaming and slowly pushing their agenda on unsuspecting gaming fans.

 

[Neith]

"GAF" is not some singular entity. PDP has gotten his fair share of shit since the moment he because famous, by people who found his schtick obnoxious. If your argument is "hey the more he says racist and anti-semetic stuff the less people on GAF like him" then, well, no shit?

The point is that he has ALWAYS been an ignorant douchebag. And now people are just waking up to that because they are noticing he doesn't care about much at all. He's just there to rile up his audience and make people scream and be buddies with kids. Whether it is something racist, homophobic, intolerant, yadda yadda it doesn't matter. He has always been capable of this, and his actions were always idiotic. But because he gave some money to charity and played games he was seen as a saint despite being an idiot and not even a good idiot.

There are plenty of people on GAF that despised him from the start, but when I was lurking months ago his threads were dominated by apologists from a small section of GAF. We were now supposed to respect his idiocy because hey he gave to charity.

Notice further down the post you quoted I refer to the people on GAF as a section of gamer GAF.

 

[Head.spawn]

I don't care for the guy since I don't even follow his videos or anything. He made an ugly mistake, fact, but I think some people just want to destroy him for whatever mistake he commits.

He followed up with "i didn't mean IT that way", he didn't accidentally say it.

 

[Saint of Killers]

H3H3 is gonna ignore this again, right

Maybe it'll be a footnote in his latest video about YT-er revenue streams being affected. That or it'll be as much about SJWs as it is about a racist cunt.

 

[ShironRedshift]

I don't care for the guy since I don't even follow his videos or anything. He made an ugly mistake, fact, but I think some people just want to destroy him for whatever mistake he commits.

Mistake? This was fully intentional. The only "mistake" was saying it while other people were listening. That word doesn't just slip into people's vocabulary on its own. I've never said it, and have no desire to. If you're saying it, there's a reason. And it's very clear from this video what that reason was.

Especially since this ain't PewDiePie's first rodeo. He's been in this situation before. He knows better. But he does this anyway, because it's who he is. There's no mistake about it.

And I don't want to destroy him. I just don't want him to be in a position where he can continue to influence millions of kids around the word every day, teaching them this kinda shit is alright. It's not. But he continues to do it, and that has an impact. That's what has to end. He apparently can't help himself and shows no effort to actually change, despite being given numerous chances and saying he would change, that this time would be different, that he'd never be in a situation like this again, etc. That hasn't held up, and he's unable to change. That being the case, he's got to go, because someone like that influencing kids and teaching them shit is alright, when they themselves clearly know it isn't and keep doing it anyway, is unacceptable.

 

[BassForever]

Like if this was the first time pdp ever had any kind of controvery and came out with some super apology about "i grew up in a house where it was common for my parents/brother/etc to say it" and plans to make charitable donations etc to make up for his mistake it'd be bad but not unforgivable. The problem is pdp has a history of this shit and doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. The fact he hurts so many other content creators makes a terrible situation even worse.

Fuck pdp, massive waste of human filth.

 

[Bendeavor]

Totalbiscuit is not a GamerGater, he's just an idiot in general.

Just because he was always too much of a coward to come out and admit it doesn't mean he wasn't. He supported enough of the movement's bullshit for it to be clear where he stands.

Regardless, the point is that some GamerGaters love TB for supporting their shit under the guise of neutrality and other GamerGaters love PewDiePie's racism, so it will be interesting to see if they fight.

 

[Orochinagis]

Just want to be clear.

99.99% of the time, saying nigger isn't a slip of tongue, it's a slip of the filter between public and private speaking where you won't be rightfully shit on and called a racist for using such disgusting language.

Let alone the fact he has a public history of racist behavior.

If you're defending him because of "benefit of doubt", you're a shit head who is too lazy to understand context of this.

Exactly, there is no excuse.

Feels like he say the world a lot to be just a slip of tongue

 

[Boke1879]

Damn surprised some youtubers are starting to get it.

It's unfortunate, but the only time people speak out about this shit is when it fucks up their money

 

[Yukinari]

Just thought i'd mention an interesting side thing that has appeared during this controversy. As well as calling it out, a few youtubers are blaming pewdiepie for the whole 'adpocalypse' that has been happening on youtube lately. Seems like other youtubers are starting to push back against their most famous video creator.

Hope this becomes more common. Dont wanna see Boogie or Ethan defending pewdiepie for this one even though they probably will.

 

[UrbanDandy]

It feels hugely telling that the YouTubers calling him out are doing so because they're worried they might make less money now. 🤔

You're not wrong. The old saying still holds true: "Money talks, BS walks."

It's kind of sad really, now that I think about it further.

 

[Anung]

H3H3 is gonna ignore this again, right

Most definitely. Unless it affects their bottom line which got them to go hard at the WSJ. So we'll see what's more important to them money or YT solidarity.

 

[legacyzero]

Nope. Bury his ass. Donezo. Can't believe I ever tried to give this dude any benefit of the doubt.

 

[afternoon delight]

It feels hugely telling that the YouTubers calling him out are doing so because they're worried they might make less money now. 🤔

Right? This whole thing is ugly as hell.

At no point in anyone's life do they get to call someone a- quote- fucking nigger- and have that be excused. Oh we were just playing tennis and she missed an easy serve! It's game talk. Get a grip. You let that shit slip because it's how you think.

Unreal amounts of blindness I guess. Depressing as fuck for our so called enlightened era.

 

[Fat4all]

Hope this becomes more common. Dont wanna see Boogie or Ethan defending pewdiepie for this one even though they probably will.

They won't defend PDP, they know better than to do that flat out.

They will either ignore it or take some bullshit 'middle ground' stance

 

[Easy_D]

Welp, money is first I guess

You can look at it that way, sure. But it's just showing that social norms have actually shifted to a degree where being a racist asshole is bad for business.

...I think that's a good thing?

 

[Permanently A]

Just want to be clear.

99.99% of the time, saying nigger isn't a slip of tongue, it's a slip of the filter between public and private speaking where you won't be rightfully shit on and called a racist for using such disgusting language.

Let alone the fact he has a public history of racist behavior.

If you're defending him because of "benefit of doubt", you're a shit head who is too lazy to understand context of this.

Yeah. I don't use the phrase "oh that's gay" as a pejorative, so it would be very unnatural for it to come out in a moment of anger or frustration where the words are a reflex more than anything. People don't just randomly exclaim insults they're never used before in the heat of the moment.

 

[Village]

Look, eating a baby isn't that bad. Overpopulation is a huge problem. And besides, it wasn't really "satanic", that's just what easily offended Christians call any ritual involving human sacrifice and pentagrams and goat statues.

And really, who hasn't thought of eating a baby before?

" literally no one steve, literally no one has thought of that before. At least sane people"

" So you are going to fire me about talking about my detailed plan to eat a baby "

" Yes, we are also calling the police"

Later at Info wars

*his head rises up from under a table covered in fresh baby blood*

" CAN YOU BELIEVED THEY FIRED THIS HARD WORKING AMERICAN FOR WANTING TO EAT WHAT HE PLEASED? I'M AN AMERICAN, WITH A BEATIN HEART THAT PUMPS AMERICAN BLOOD AND I CAN EAT DAMN BABY IF I WANT TO....also buy these new narc brand whipes, they are good for getting baby blood off your gullet"

 

[FinaruDensetsu]

It's too bad he can't call PDP what it's patently obvious he's been (and it's been obvious for a while!):

a fucking R A C I S T

an asshole is someone who doesn't tip after a shitty meal

Usually people who can't do so even at this point when someone just freely uses racial slurs it's because that person probably also does and wants to avoid condemning essentially themselves as one.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Call me old-fashioned but I think calling someone a racial slur is pretty racist.

 

[LionPride]

Ay folks get real willing to say shit when they money on the line


Fuck with people's money and see how many will hate ya ass

 

[Balfour]

I love that his main concern is that this might impact his "revenue streams"

And? This is how he makes a living

End of the day, any person is going to be hurt more over their livelihood being in jeopardy then being offended, rightfully so, by a racial slur.

The fact is PewDiePie bringing many others down with him is a high probability, and that's going to hurt more than feelings. The man being worried over his way of making a living being taken down by one man being a complete jackass on camera is a legit reason to be concerned

 

[besada]

Also, Ian Miles Cheong, beyond being as dumb as a sack of very dumb rocks, is literally a nazi apologist, so quit being shocked that he doesn't mind someone dropping a racial slur. You don't actually need to post his garbage here and give it a wider audience.

 

[Brakke]

It feels hugely telling that the YouTubers calling him out are doing so because they're worried they might make less money now. 🤔

I mean welcome to like 400 years of American history.

 

[D i Z]

It would also be cool if he said racism is bad instead of just looking at this through his bottom line, but hey I guess I'll take whatever I can get from these youtube guys.

The ONLY way any of them are going to sack up and draw a line is if their own cash flow is threatened. It ain't got shit to do with principles or standards.
That's how being a moderate works.

 

[MKIL65]

Damn surprised some youtubers are starting to get it.

It's good that he called him a shithead. Too bad he couldn't call him a RACIST shithead.

These guys are all spineless cowards.

 

[Fat4all]

Call me old-fashioned but I think calling someone a racial slur is pretty racist.

easy now grandpa, get those radical ideas outta here

 

[Anung]

They won't defend PDP, they know better than to do that flat out.

They will either ignore it or take some bullshit 'middle ground' stance

They'll fence sit, middleground or ignore until it goes away. This is basically hardwired into them now when YT shit his the fan.

 

[pelican]

It's unfortunate, but the only time people speak out about this shit is when it fucks up their money

Exactly. Concerned about any further potential hits on ad revenue.

Saying that, I can understand their frustration at losing money due to a 3rd party behaviour. Not exactly fair.

 

[Inuhanyou]

The context absolutely matters, no doubt. I go into it further in this post here from another poster responding along these same lines.

Short version: Essentially, white kids trying to loophole their way into using the term in the early 90s clouded the issue enough that their attempt ended up securing some purchase, but not enough to allow them to fit it between their teeth as easily as they'd have liked, but just enough to continue confusing others as to what is and isn't off-limits.

I don't really agree your viewpoint with "ER" versus "A" but i can understand where your train of thought is and i can respect that.

I'm of two minds that slurs don't need to be context sensitive if they are uttered, but at the same time they do, since white folks using them against black folks is THE context of the slur.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Social media and YouTube chock full of cunts, you don't say?

It's almost like the antisocial nature of the internet amplifies antisocial behavior.

 

[JBourne]

It would also be cool if he said racism is bad instead of just looking at this through his bottom line, but hey I guess I'll take whatever I can get from these youtube guys.

Yeah, it's not surprising to see this reaction from TB. He has his own history of shit behavior.

 

[Messofanego]

It's too bad he can't call PDP what it's patently obvious he's been (and it's been obvious for a while!):

a fucking R A C I S T

an asshole is someone who doesn't tip after a shitty meal

He says PDP is being racist here.

 

[Easy_D]

Social media and YouTube chock full of cunts, you don't say?

It's almost like the antisocial nature of the internet amplifies antisocial behavior.

Which, ironically, is expressed via social media.

 

[sqwarlock]

Just thought i'd mention an interesting side thing that has appeared during this controversy. As well as calling it out, a few youtubers are blaming pewdiepie for the whole 'adpocalypse' that has been happening on youtube lately. Seems like other youtubers are starting to push back against their most famous video creator.

I think Dan is my most-watched YouTube personality, and I'm glad to see him say this. I don't think it goes far enough, but it's something.

EDIT: Just saw the chain in Messofanego's post. Good. Fucking good.

 

[King Tubby]

I can't wrap my head around the idea that it isn't racist if you just say it out of frustration/anger. I never stubbed my toe and cried out "fucking gook!" What kind of nonsense is this?

 

[Aters]

He said it because someone shot at him, apparently it was not a joke. I'm not sure he can get his way out of this, but I have a feeling a Youtuber with a huge fanbase can find a way.

 

[Blindy]

Max had a similar gaff and didn't recognize the mistake until much later. Though to his credit he really went out of his way to apologize and even gave a donation to a charity I believe. Wonder how peddle replies to this if at all.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Are people naive, ignorant or trolling?

I am German, the "N" word here is racist, my parents know that saying the N word is racist, even the "americanized" one and they mostly use Amazon and eBay...

And people here want to tell me he didnt knew better since he is European???

 

[James Scott]

PDP is a pretty major factor in the recent ad revenue changes, no? I wonder why youtubers would defend him anymore.
I'd probably prefer he'd get kicked off a platform instead of him constantly affecting my livelihood by being a terrible person.

 

[Nokterian]

Let's not forget Pewdiepie was cozy in twitter DM's with Alex Jones from Infowars...let that sink that in for a moment.

 

[TheMrPliskin]

It feels hugely telling that the YouTubers calling him out are doing so because they're worried they might make less money now. 🤔

And sadly it's not at all surprising.