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[Complicated]

As if we needed PDP to give us anymore evidence that he is a piece of shit. Would be nice to see his bullshit and racism come with some tangible consequences sometime soon, but that doesn't seem to be the kind of world we live in these days.

 

[roytheone]

These kind of people that are viewed as role models by children saying this stuff is horrible. Children that don't know better would think its totally OK to say it and may even think it's cool since their heroes say it too. Disgusting.

 

[Fat4all]

I love how his defense is him saying he didn't mean it in a bad way but right after switching it to asshole.

for real

"Fucking ni**er"
...
"Fucking asshole"
...
"People watching my stream won't care anyways"


hmm I wonder if he knows what that word meanshmmmmmm

 

[Buckle]

I guess you missed Felix agreeing that women are less intelligent than men then.

So we've got a history of rape jokes, belittling womens intelligence, "death to jews" and now him angrily calling somebody the N word.

..Yeah, the generation of kids being raised on channels like his and Jontron's are fucked if they can look past shit like this and just keep watching.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Whenever somebody says that a racial or homophobic slur might have just been a slip out of anger, I'm so damn confused. Like, I get angry when I play competitive games, quite angry in fact. Sometimes I yell and cuss. Never have I ever yelled out the N word though, or any other sort of slur. Because it's just not in my day to day vocabulary...it's not something that comes out of my mouth. I feel like this is a pretty simple concept, but maybe not.

This. I just don't understand. I hear shit like this on a somewhat regular basis like Overwatch too.

I was playing competitive OW and one of my teammates yelled out the following after spotting that the team had a Pharah

"PHARAH! THEY GOT A NIGGER IN THE TREES! NIGGER IN THE TREES!"

Like, what? Where do you even have to be from to have made that association. What mind comes up with this.

After identifying myself as black on voice comms they (he was in a party of 2 or 3) were like "oh..." then that awkaward silence before attempting to laugh it off. His comfort zone was temporarially displaced by sudden embarrassment and shame as he thought he was protected by a team of permissive or like-minded white males as he usually is and was thrown off balance upon realization that he was not. I'm sure he continued the behavior in the games he played that followed.

This was months ago and I remember it like it was yesterday. Not all words are just words, young people.

Honestly, the lengths and creativity I see people go to in order to promote their feelings of racial superiority or otherwise outpace their insecurities at the expense of others never ceases to amaze.

 

[InfiniteBento]

What makes it even worse, way worse in fact is how he used it. A white person saying something like "wassup n***a" is wrong, nasty and needs to be adressed. But this was straight up with a hard R and also as a pure insult. Straight up calling someone black as a way of saying that person is bad, and ALSO doing it with the worst possible and rightfully taboo word. I'm at a loss.

My mouth dropped open when we said it. He's confirmed he is racist trash 🚮

 

[bigjeffery]

Why not?

I'm all for PewDiePie getting punished, but why should YouTube and Twitch not get to decide who uses their service?

Sorry, I edited my post to make it clear.

Pewdiepie should absolutely be banned from streaming, and if they can swing it, banned from posting content on Youtube too.

I think what CS is doing is bullshit and I sincerely hope it fails.

 

[Alucrid]

for real

"Fucking ni**er"
...
"Fucking asshole"
...
"People watching my stream won't care anyways"


hmm I wonder if he knows what that word meanshmmmmmm

if you read between the lines what he's actually saying is "i'm swedish"

 

[Not Spaceghost]

I'm fully on the "fuck him" train but you can somewhat excuse the lack of ability to distinguish the two forms by him being a non-native English speaker.

Sure if that person has JUST LEARNED ENGLISH, not only has pewdiepie been speaking english most of his life, he's also been on the internet within the past decade and should know that an n-bomb is fucking bad shit.

Really how can anyone think "oh he's not a native speak" is a functional defense?

 

[BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie]

No I live in the UK and I most certainly don't hear that word often at all. However, there is still unfortunately a very real race problem in Europe as demonstrated by this idiot and several other racist YouTube people like *vomits* Sargon of Akaad. And it's still never been fully eliminated from football despite a lot of great strides.

 

[PixelatedBookake]

Lol PewdiePie really just doesn't give a fuck anymore. Hasn't hid his shit for awhile.

 

[Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!]

I live in the south. I'm black so obviously my experience will be different, but nobody says"nigger" casually like that.

White people do when they aren't around you.

 

[Benedict]

As a Swede I must say that using that word in Sweden is considered racist as fuck.

So don't come with the bullshit that this racist behaviour is accepted in "Europe".

 

[Trago]

These kind of people that are viewed as role models by children saying this stuff is horrible. Children that don't know better would think its totally OK to say it and may even think it's cool since their heroes say it too. Disgusting.

I totally forgot that a huge chunk of this dude's audience are kids. Shameful.

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

I'm fully on the "fuck him" train but you can somewhat excuse the lack of ability to distinguish the two forms by him being a non-native English speaker.

Is the n word right for you?
Step 1: look at your skin.
Black__ Not black
__ ¦________¦
Sure_____Fuck no

If it's the hard r variant, you can probably put a no in the first column, too.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Sorry, I edited my post to make it clear.

Pewdiepie should absolutely be banned from streaming, and if they can swing it, banned from posting content on Youtube too.

I think what CS is doing is bullshit and I sincerely hope it fails.

Why? Campo Santo should be able to decide that a racist won't get to further profit off of their work. There is nothing wrong with what they're doing

 

[LotusHD]

Guys, we need to come together and educate the entire EU on racism. They deserve to know it exists.

 

[spannicus]

So we've got a history of rape jokes, belittling womens intelligence, "death to jews" and now him angrily calling somebody the N word.

..Yeah, the generation of kids being raised on channels like his and Jontron's are fucked.

Sad. Only makes others believe its ok to do unless his followers see action taken against him.

 

[Fat4all]

White people do when they aren't around you.

you know it's gonna be extra racist if they have to look around themselves first

 

[Psychoward]

for real

"Fucking ni**er"
...
"Fucking asshole"
...
"People watching my stream won't care anyways"


hmm I wonder if he knows what that word meanshmmmmmm

I love his asshole friend and him laughing about it too afterwards

fuck them, "I've got nothing to lose"

hope youtube pulls all advertising, donations and sponsorships and age-gates all of his videos and hits him with at least a temp ban

of course then he'll ust thrive on twitch and patreon but still

 

[TimeEffect]

These kind of people that are viewed as role models by children saying this stuff is horrible. Children that don't know better would think its totally OK to say it and may even think it's cool since their heroes say it too. Disgusting.

Pewdiepie was terrible before all this

I mean, I dont personally think kids should be exposed to swear words as young as his fans are. But thats the world we live in where internet usage is unmonitored by parents

But yes, the racism is incredibly damaging to a child because we know that schools and parents cant break the internet culture that is teaching children unfiltered things

Its a serious concern that just doesnt get attention because of how the internet is

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I remember the shitstorm over him laughing at an antisemitic joke and articles came out calling him alt-right. I brushed it off as an overreaction, but this is different. This motherfucker let the word slip too casually. So he clearly says it on the regular.

Asshole.

our opinions are the same opinions. having seen this now my opinion of the former event is now somewhat different as well

 

[Mammoth Jones]

"Europeans don't know any better" is the hot new defense it seems.

Fuck off with that shit.

It's like they didn't teach their participation in the economy of the African Slave trade in history class.

Guys, we need to come together and educate the entire EU on racism. They deserve to know it exists.

They don't want to know.

 

[King Tubby]

Sorry, I edited my post to make it clear.

Pewdiepie should absolutely be banned from streaming, and if they can swing it, banned from posting content on Youtube too.

I think what CS is doing is bullshit and I sincerely hope it fails.

I agree with you. This isn't what the DMCA is for. This falls under the purview of YouTube's and other services' Terms of Service.

Why? Campo Santo should be able to decide that a racist won't get to further profit off of their work. There is nothing wrong with what they're doing

His using a racial slur in an unrelated video doesn't retroactively remove fair use protection from other videos he has produced.

 

[atomsk]

Why? Campo Santo should be able to decide that a racist won't get to further profit off of their work. There is nothing wrong with what they're doing

Then flag the video with Content ID and all future ad revenue will go to Campo Santo

This is what Nintendo does to pretty much everyone.

He's probably take the video down if it stopped making him money.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

Any adult Swedish person knows that English/American racial slurs, and our own racial slurs, are indeed racial slurs. We start learning English in grade school and grow up watching American media.

If you think using a racial slur as a general derogatory insult makes it not racist, you are an idiot.
The racist context of the term remains.
You are using the slur in a derogatory fashion.
You are encouraging the use and spreading of racial slurs, under the guise that it's not racist, which possibly makes it even more racist.
Instead of being a racist idiot, use another insult. Not like there's a lack of them, you drongo. You bunglecock.

Pewdiepie doesn't seem much different from your average gamer asshole in his behavior and attitude.
Like he says in this video; "sometimes I forget that I'm livestreaming:" Meaning this is how he talks in private. Him and his friends think that's cool.

 

[Blam]

I mean this doesn't change how I see his content.

 

[Gin-Shiio]

Even if what some here were saying was true and nigger wasn't an offensive term outside of America, PewDiePie speaks English on this stream for his majority English-speaking and likely American audience. If he uses the word, he does so having something very specific in mind.

I mean this doesn't change how I see his content.

I take it you are not black then? It must be liberating not to feel empathy. I'm a white dude, but get livid even seeing the guy now.

 

[TheMoon]

No, you can't. He always has the choice to not say anything at all.

Either form is unacceptable for him to use


Why is this even being debated here? People will look to excuse *anything*

Make sure to read what I actually said and responded to.

I'm not defending shit.

 

[Horp]

I'm fully on the "fuck him" train but you can somewhat excuse the lack of ability to distinguish the two forms by him being a non-native English speaker.

Nah man. I'm swedish too and that word is known by everyone here. We have a very similar word that is the exact same thing (close at least). Pdp knew what he was saying. The only explanation is that he 1. Thinks black people are less than white, and 2. Doesn't mind proclaiming that.

 

[Kthulhu]

I love his asshole friend and him laughing about it too afterwards

fuck them, "I've got nothing to lose"

hope youtube pulls all advertising, donations and sponsorships and age-gates all of his videos and hits him with at least a temp ban

of course then he'll ust thrive on twitch and patreon but still

I don't know about Twitch, but Patreon has banned racists before, so they might do something.

 

[Buckle]

Fuck yes.

Good man.

 

[TheMoon]

IT STILL REFERS TO BLACK PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT LANGUAGE YOU SPEAK.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

Jesus Fucking Christ. I did not say it excuses him saying it, I said it "sort of" excuses him not knowing the difference as brought up in the post I quoted.

No no no no no no.

Everyone knows the difference. Even if he said the other one. Every one knows its bad.

Stop defending him.

I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM DID YOU READ THE PART ABOUT ME SAYING I AM FULLY ON THE FUCK HIM TRAIN.

God damnit people. Read.

 

[Basketball]

YOU KNOW DAMN RIGHT

this fool says Nigg#r all the time

 

[ebullientprism]

LOL fucking stop with the "He isnt American, he probably doesnt understand the weight or the implication of the word."

The guy speaks flawless English with almost no trace of an accent. He FUCKING KNOWS.

Stop making excuses for assholes. Holy shit.

 

[Kayant]

Nigger does not equal nigga

I always see this and didn't understand this logic.

Please explain how they are different.

 

[Glass Shark]

I agree with you. This isn't what the DMCA is for. This falls under the purview of YouTube's and other services' Terms of Service.

There are a lot of people who view streaming games as copyright violation, which is exactly what the DMCA is for. I don’t know if I really agree with that point of view but I understand it to a degree.

 

[ash321]

Then flag the video with Content ID and all future ad revenue will go to Campo Santo

This is what Nintendo does to pretty much everyone.

He's probably take the video down if it stopped making him money.

If they content ID, the vids will still exist. If they DMCA, the vid is gone.

They probably don't want their game associate with this racist.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

Then flag the video with Content ID and all future ad revenue will go to Campo Santo

This is what Nintendo does to pretty much everyone.

He's probably take the video down if it stopped making him money.

why should a company have to profit from a shitbag racist?

 

[ScientificPizza]

Make sure to read what I actually said and responded to.

I'm not defending shit.

You literally use the word excuse in your post

 

[Dreams-Visions]

YOU KNOW DAMN RIGHT

this fool says Nigg#r all the time

Yes most likely.

 

[Trigonometrize.]

Sorry, I edited my post to make it clear.

Pewdiepie should absolutely be banned from streaming, and if they can swing it, banned from posting content on Youtube too.

I think what CS is doing is bullshit and I sincerely hope it fails.

I agree with this. I'm not going to reconfigure my entire perspective on companies having legal backing from the government to take down transformative works that people make their livings off of because PewDiePie said the n-word. Maybe if it was an alternate universe where it was "the only way" or something, but Youtube and Twitch and advertisers can all play a better role in this than Campo Santo.

 

[Fat4all]

I don't know about Twitch, but Patreon has banned racists before, so they might do something.

usually it's just if the users pulls terrorist-like shit, like blocking a harbor or putting cement on railroad lines

I think they have to do (or threaten to do) some bullshit like that before getting removed from patreon

 

[Random Human]

The idea that you could use the internet for years and consume American pop culture for years and NOT know that word is racist is just absurd. Come on.

Literally the last movie I saw had a joke about this. There are internet controversies about it every couple of weeks. To plead some kind of cultural ignorance is cowardly.

 

[Horp]

Can we just stop talking about the dmca. Who the hell cares.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Jesus Fucking Christ. I did not say it excuses him saying it, I said it "sort of" excuses him not knowing the difference as brought up in the post I quoted.



I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM DID YOU READ THE PART ABOUT ME SAYING I AM FULLY ON THE FUCK HIM TRAIN.

God damnit people. Read.

Did you read what he said? PewDiePie clearly used the word as a slur, because he replaced it with asshole when he realized he slipped up.

 

[King Tubby]

Jesus Fucking Christ. I did not say it excuses him saying it, I said it "sort of" excuses him not knowing the difference as brought up in the post I quoted.



I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM DID YOU READ THE PART ABOUT ME SAYING I AM FULLY ON THE FUCK HIM TRAIN.

God damnit people. Read.

Your defense just really doesn't make any sense. Even if he meant to say "nigga" and didn't understand the difference, that's not how the term is used. I've never heard anyone white or black call someone a "fucking nigga" out of anger or frustration. He also went on to say that he forgot he was streaming and says that shit all the time when he's offline and angry.

 

[UberTag]

Little kids swearing and shouting racial slurs has always been thing in online gaming, usually with the "I'm just trolling bro, stop being so serious" excuse, but even more so today the amount of foul racist garbage I hear kids and adults spewing, and all the swastika emblems I see people running around with in CoD and Battlefield is pretty discouraging.

You normalize that behavior in kids and adolescents and they grow up to be hate-filled Nazi wannbes like the crowd in Charlottesville who thought it was perfectly okay to beat up Deandre Harris with metal poles and to run Heather Heyer down with their cars because of how "the world" had treated them.

 

[TheMoon]

But he used it as an insult and later switched it out for "asshole". So what's the difference which "version" he actually meant to say?

None, pls realize I wasn't making any larger point beyond the simple thing I said there. Fuck him

 

[23qwerty]

I mean this doesn't change how I see his content.

go on