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What classes have you made so far?

I have a 284 titan with nothing to do until reset.

I have a 277 warlock that hasnt even touched any milestones, nightfall, or exotic quests. She will likely get to 290.

I wont have time to do a 3rd before the reset tuesday unfortunately, but no biggie.

If I remember correctly I should wait until 265 to turn in tokens to the regional vendors, right?

Gonna just repost my guide again. For tokens it really depends on how many you have stockpiled. I started dumping them at 250 and got over 260 before I ran out. More below.

When people are saying the wait to finish the milestones.. Does this go for the ones you get at the very start? (Like 2 pvp matches etc) or some other kind of milestones? (Someone was talking about weekly ones). Confused here

The milestones are a chain. Like the 2pvp matches is the START of that chain.. When you look at your milestones, it is fine to do them up until you reach the part where the REWARDS says "POWERFUL GEAR". That is the step that you dont want to turn in until 265+. You can DO it whenever, just dont turn it in until 265+. This is in my Power Level guide post I keep reposting.

Is there a good compiled guide somewhere for how to get your LL up on your first character? I found this guide and following suggestions in the thread, but I feel like I'm missing things (like when to turn/when not to turn tokens in).


The post linked in the OP is wrong (not the ideal way). It tells you to use token rewards early on and start your final stuff at 260. Better to save tokens and use them to go from 250 to 265 fast and THEN do the final stuff. See my posts below. Reposting yet again....

repost...........

The only important milestone is the final one in the chain, the one with 'POWERFUL GEAR' as the reward.

Got my first character to 284 nearly 285 in about 30 hours of play time. Here's my method:

Always decrypt legendary and exotic engrams right away. They dont increase in power level when you do so if you dont use them they become worthless for power level gain. This does NOT include the engrams that are REWARDS feom quest chains/milestones. Those scale, so save them for the end. Mainly referring to the guaranteed exotic from the main story for this.

DO NOT do milestones until you are over 265. They are the best way apart from Nightfall to get gear over 270.

1. Once you are level 20, get to around 250 Power from blue drops from public events and any engrams you get along the way. Stockpile all the faction rewards turnins during this time. Lost sectors are good too for blue farming up to 250, and quick/easy. Strikes are fine but not time efficient.

2. 250-265 - Use your faction rewards turnins one at a time (tokens on planets, weapons parts to Shaxx). Check the gear you get against your current gear and wear it if its higher. If your current gear DOES have a +5 mod on it and the new gear DOES NOT, infuse the new gear into the current gear to get the highest light possible. This should get you to 265-267 easily if you stockpiled faction rewards. Try to make sure your energy weapon and power weapon arent exotic due to next step. If you got any +5 purple weapon/armor mods while turning in faction rewards, put them on any gear slots that dont have one if possible. SEE MY OTHER INFO BELOW THIS LIGHT GUIDE FOR AN EXPLANATION ON MAXIMIZING +5 MODS FOR LIGHT GAIN.

3. Once 265-267, claim the exotic from beating the campaign, then do your first exotic primary weapon quest.That will bump you to 267-269 assuming you have a few 270 pieces already (265 gear with a +5 mod).


4. NOW do 1-2 milestones. Again, only turn in one at a time and check the rewards against your current gear, making sure to maximize based on any pieces that have the +5 mods. Make sure to join a clan for the clan milestone.

5. Do a 2nd exotic weapon quest after 1-2 milestones if you didnt get a higher light primary than the 1st exotic. SAVE your favorite exotic quest for last. There are four, one from each planet, but the final one requires the raid to finish. I waited to get my mida muti tool (my 3rd exotic quest) until I hit 283 light and it dropped at 293. That is what brought me to the upper half of 284 (and allows me to USE my trusty mida).

6. Finish off your milestones and claim them, again one at a time to maximize gains. This includes the nightfall, which drops high gear once a week per class in addition to being the end of a milestone path as well.

7. Do your 3rd and final (for now) exotic primary quest. Ideally you saved your favorite for last. See step 5. I saved my MIDA quest for this step.

Doing this I was able to get to 284, two points shy of 285, on my first character without creating alts to re-do nightfall and whatnot.

I'm at 265 now, can someone explain to me the whole exotic infusing progression tip I keep reading about?

I don't fully understand what to do.

INFUSION EXPLANATION TO MAXIMIZE GAINS-

First off it doesnt matter if its exotic or not. Any legendary can have the +5 mod too. Exotics are just guaranteed to have one.

Lets say I have two scout rifles. Both are 265 light. One has a +5 mod on it (purple mod on the item detail screen with a 5 on it). The one with the +5 mod is ACTUALLY only a 260 light scout rifle. The item's true light level is whatever it would be without the +5. So a 273 with a +5 is actually a 268.

So, if my scout rifle with NO +5 mod is 265, I can infuse that into the other 265 scout rifle that HAS the +5. That will make it a true 265 rifle, and the +5 mod will bump it up to 270.

This is why its so important to look at every legendary gear you get and keep the ones with +5 mods, and maximize which items you are infusing into others as you go along. Theoretically you could get every gear slot to 270 before ever touching milestones and exotic quests, although that is unlikely.

Once you get to 280 light you can create +5 mods at the weapon vendor.

ALSO make sure if you max out 99,999 glimmer, UNLOAD it all at the weapon vendor by buying the 'random' blue mods for 2500 each so that you stockpile them to create loads of +5 mods when you hit 280 light.


The only thing about exotics is they always have a +5 mod on them, so their true light level is always 5 below what you see on them. I learned that the hard way when I tried to infuse a exotic INTO a legendary and got zero increase from it.


What happens when your first character is done? Here is how to maximize gains on your 2nd/3rd chars assuming you make one of each class (milestones are once per week PER CLASS, so making 3 hunters means only one set of milestones per week).

Also a note about 2nd characters:

You will get higher power level drops to go up faster than your first character. However once you hit 265, you WILL NOT receive rewards based on your "highest character's" power level. I know this because me titan is 284 and gets 275 power level faction rewards, yet when I turn in faction rewards on my warlock at 265 the faction rewards werent 275. Once I moved my three weapons over and bumped my warlock up over 270, my faction rewards packages increased.

Faction rewards max out at 9 power levels below your current max on that character. So if you are 275, you will get 266 faction rewards. That would seem useless, but sometimes you can use it to catch up a piece of gear lagging behind your current power level. And of course they are always good to dismantle for shards or to hope for a specific weapon/armor drop you want.

This being said, that shows it is highly important to transfer your highest power level weapons over to your alt once you hit level 20 and can use them. I am 277 on my 2nd char already amd havent touched a single milestone or exotic quest yet. I will do milestones first, then my exotic quests once my power level increases in order to get an even higher power level primary weapon. My 2nd toon should easily hit 290.
 
So outside of exotic engrams, nightfalls and raids, there's no other way to get drops above 267, right? Cuz factions stay at 267, so do purple engrams and all drops.
 
So outside of exotic engrams, nightfalls and raids, there's no other way to get drops above 267, right? Cuz factions stay at 267, so do purple engrams and all drops.

Facrtions go up with you but max out 9 light levels below your current max. My 284 titan gets 275 faction rewards. Only useful for shards, specific item chasing, and to catch up that one piece you have lagging 10+ power behind your max. This info is in my guide which I will copy into the post above yours for the new page.
 
Wish I could be enjoying this with the rest of everyone. First Bungie game since Halo, when I starting playing their games, where I don't find it fun to play (for reasons I outlined in the beta thread and earlier). I keep trying and it's pretty clear that despite my love for the first game, that's not going to carry over here. I'm kind of gutted and deeply confused at the praise.

It's the opposite of Destiny 1, where they nailed the gameplay but the content needed work (which it got). Here the content is clearly a huge step up, but the game is just flat and un-engaging (poor audio, visual feedback on weapons and enemies, movement feels sluggish). I didn't have a plan B game lined up for the fall, so I'm not sure what else to look for. :\

I don't remotely understand this, to be honest. That sucks man. I mean, it plays like Destiny. I don't see what you mean with the visual feedback at all. And you seem to be in an incredibly tiny minority in regard to the sound design. :\

Even my fiancee has commented on how she thought the sound effects in the game were better now.
 
Wish I could be enjoying this with the rest of everyone. First Bungie game since Halo, when I starting playing their games, where I don't find it fun to play (for reasons I outlined in the beta thread and earlier). I keep trying and it's pretty clear that despite my love for the first game, that's not going to carry over here. I'm kind of gutted and deeply confused at the praise.

It's the opposite of Destiny 1, where they nailed the gameplay but the content needed work (which it got). Here the content is clearly a huge step up, but the game is just flat and un-engaging (poor audio, visual feedback on weapons and enemies, movement feels sluggish). I didn't have a plan B game lined up for the fall, so I'm not sure what else to look for. :\

Sorry to hear that. I ran a couple early VOG raids with you and it was very fun. Are you playing Hunter? They feel as fast and snappy as ever to me. Your criticisms are strange given that most people complain that it's more of the same.
 
My friend's following this guide and he's still in the 240s while I'm 264. Just play the game. Get tokens and rep. Turn in. Do patrols, challenges, blah blah blah get tokens, turn in, repeat.

Totally fucking agree. I'm 262 just playing the way I want, turning everything in when I get it. It's joyous.

This game seems designed to not require this kind of guide following, hand wringing, opportunity hoarding mentality.

I mean, even the Raid, the thing ain't going anywhere if you're not ready this Wednesday.

I'd much rather have had the experience I've had with the game, literally boundless loot whenever I want it, than hanging on to everything terrified to actually have fun with it.

That's what Shaders are for!
 
Did the nightfall with randoms from DestinyLFG. It went surprisingly well and the modifiers made the experience a lot of fun. Overall the game is a lot of fun. The gameplay is even better now. The issue I have with it, is mostly that once you get to 865, you are kind of screwed and the real grind starts to set it.

The experience from going from 200 to 265 was a lot a fun.

They need to push out content kind of quick in order to prevent me from getting bored. I haven't dipped into the PvP at all yet though.
 
Totally fucking agree. I'm 262 just playing the way I want, turning everything in when I get it. It's joyous.

This game seems designed to not require this kind of guide following, hand wringing, opportunity hoarding mentality.

I mean, even the Raid, the thing ain't going anywhere if you're not ready this Wednesday.

I'd much rather have had the experience I've had with the game, literally boundless loot whenever I want it, than hanging on to everything terrified to actually have fun with it.

That's what Shaders are for!

Well said! This is the way I will be playing in my playthrough as well. Even though I've only been doing crucibles, I'm having a lot of fun.
 
Got myself a Sweet Business exotic and immediately infused my war rig chest and let me tell ya'll -- it's about as close to heaven as I've ever come.

A solid 7-10 seconds, maybe more of straight firing. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.
 
I thought gear rewards/drop took into calculation of best possible load out. Meaning we don't actually have to wear the gear to get higher/better gear as long as it's in our inventory. This was because people didn't like using certain weapons
 
Anyone want to join me and dodecagon for the NF? Just did it with TheWorthyEdge, but he had to leave and we want to run it again. We're both 273. Ps4.
 
Dear lord people are making the exact character just to reach a light level that high for what.......that sounds like such a burn and bore. Fuck that, I'll just play normal after reading that guide lol

Yeah, absolutely fuck that. I'm just gonna hit 275 or so then wait. It doesn't seem worth the time are all. More fun to just make another class or something.
 
So I bought the Destiny 2 pop tarts from Target today...

Texting the number on the box tells me the code (D2XP) is inactive or wrong.

Emailing the address listed on kfr.com/D2XP (d2xp@kfr.com) results in a post master return that the inbox is full and can't receive more messages.

Anyone have luck redeeming these stupid pop tarts?
 
Inhave played sooooo much crucible.

I simply dont understand the complaints. Its really well done for launch imo.

Only problem is so many gamez 3 vs 4 bc of whatever. That shit is in every ame and it ruins mp
 
Might be a minor nitpick, but I get this "cheap" feeling to certain aspects of Destiny 2 that had no reason to change from the first game..

In particular, in Destiny 1, I loved how they really zoomed in on the characters when you talked to them, with their persona taking up half of the screen. They were basked in this soft outline/glow that made it such a surreal, unique and engaging take on a character "interaction panel".

In Destiny 2, they dropped this completely. Now the characters are standing off to the side, with a more realistic look to them and it completely loses that magic. I dont feel like I'm talking to some mysterious, exotic being in the world of Destiny, but rather some dime a dozen military shooter type guys handing me quests..

Did anyone else notice this? Or am I taking crazy pills?
 
Might be a minor nitpick, but I get this "cheap" feeling to certain aspects of Destiny 2 that had no reason to change from the first game..

In particular, in Destiny 1, I loved how they really zoomed in on the characters when you talked to them, with their persona taking up half of the screen. They were basked in this soft outline/glow that made it such a surreal, unique and engaging take on a character "interaction panel".

In Destiny 2, they dropped this completely. Now the characters are standing off to the side, with a more realistic look to them and it completely loses that magic. I dont feel like I'm talking to some mysterious, exotic being in the world of Destiny, but rather some dime a dozen military shooter type guys handing me quests..

Did anyone else notice this? Or am I taking crazy pills?
I think it looks much better now.
 
Inhave played sooooo much crucible.

I simply dont understand the complaints. Its really well done for launch imo.

Only problem is so many gamez 3 vs 4 bc of whatever. That shit is in every ame and it ruins mp

I get why people hate the changes... personally i love it. I like the esports direction
 
Yeah, absolutely fuck that. I'm just gonna hit 275 or so then wait. It doesn't seem worth the time are all. More fun to just make another class or something.

You dont need to make the same char multiple times. My first toon got to 284. 280 is all but guaranteed if you do it right and follow my guide. My 2nd will hit 290 easily I expect. My third woould make 293 easily, possibly 295+ if I got lucky with milestones amd actually had the time before reset. I have a titan and a warlock, third will be a hunter. No need to keep remaking toons. But also no need to stop at 275 if you do it right.

I thought gear rewards/drop took into calculation of best possible load out. Meaning we don't actually have to wear the gear to get higher/better gear as long as it's in our inventory. This was because people didn't like using certain weapons

At the very least I think it needs to be on that character. Whether or not it needs to be equipped is another matter. My faction rewards immediately jumped from below 265 to 267 when I transferred my weapons over from my titan to my warlock.
 
I feel the light level system is so unfair right now. Ive had terrible luck and cant get any 5 mods, and cant break level 280 to create them. Ive done all the steps everyone says to to ghet to 280, and after 3 characters I cant progress until I get some gear to drop that has those mods. The sucks.
 
Dear lord people are making the exact character just to reach a light level that high for what.......that sounds like such a burn and bore. Fuck that, I'll just play normal after reading that guide lol

It only makes sense if you are going for raid world first on tue/wed, for those people (especially streamers) since they haven't said what light level the raid will be at, going as high as you can will obviously make things easier/faster.

But yeah, for the rest of us once you hit around 270 there really isn't any reason to push that much higher right now, and definitely no reason at all to roll alts and delete them.

The difference though between 279 and 280 is huge just because at 280 you can get the mods that instantly boost your gear 5, which is imo not a great design. The mods should let you change elementals, add different parameters, etc (speed boost, reload speesd, etc) but they should remove the +5 light boost ones.
 
I feel the light level system is so unfair right now. Ive had terrible luck and cant get any 5 mods, and cant break level 280 to create them. Ive done all the steps everyone says to to ghet to 280, and after 3 characters I cant progress until I get some gear to drop that has those mods. The sucks.
Im running into the same problem
 
Feels good to get back into Destiny pvp. First time match in D2.
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Might be a minor nitpick, but I get this "cheap" feeling to certain aspects of Destiny 2 that had no reason to change from the first game..

In particular, in Destiny 1, I loved how they really zoomed in on the characters when you talked to them, with their persona taking up half of the screen. They were basked in this soft outline/glow that made it such a surreal, unique and engaging take on a character "interaction panel".

In Destiny 2, they dropped this completely. Now the characters are standing off to the side, with a more realistic look to them and it completely loses that magic. I dont feel like I'm talking to some mysterious, exotic being in the world of Destiny, but rather some dime a dozen military shooter type guys handing me quests..

Did anyone else notice this? Or am I taking crazy pills?

I just wish my character can talk. Did he suddenly stop talking? You were fine earlier and now you're mute. >.>

Now he just nods.
 
I feel the light level system is so unfair right now. Ive had terrible luck and cant get any 5 mods, and cant break level 280 to create them. Ive done all the steps everyone says to to ghet to 280, and after 3 characters I cant progress until I get some gear to drop that has those mods. The sucks.

Why are you trying so hard to get to 280 this early on?

In all likelyhood level 265-270 will be the sweet spot for the Raid.

Those players reaching that far into the 270s, even 280, are being extremely lucky. They must have gotten high power gear that is outclassing the rest of their other equipment.

My two friends were below me yesterday in terms of power level, today they're like 2-6 points above me because they got damn good powerful legendary rewards
 
Why are you trying so hard to get to 280 this early on?

In all likelyhood level 265-270 will be the sweet spot for the Raid.

Those players reaching that far into the 270s, even 280, are being extremely lucky. They must have gotten high power gear that is outclassing the rest of their other equipment.

My two friends were below me yesterday in terms of power level, today they're like 2-6 points above me because they got damn good powerful legendary rewards

Its not luck. Its doing everything in the right order. Every single person I run with on Xbox has reached 280 on their FIRST toon except 1 guy who hit 279. Then their 2nd toons all got into the mid/upper 280s. They all logged 30-40 hours on first toon.

I feel like a lot of folks probably sharded legendaries that had +5 mods without realizing it in the mid 200s, and now they are struggling because they didnt carry that gear forward to the post 265 grind.

There is a little luck, but that luck is the difference between 280 and 284 on first toon. Not the difference between low 270s and 284.
 
So,

273 titan. Played nights after the kids went to bed and a lot yesterday. I think I've done everything but rat king and some strikes.... holy crap I'm ecstatic at how good this game is at launch.
 
Why are you trying so hard to get to 280 this early on?

In all likelyhood level 265-270 will be the sweet spot for the Raid.

Those players reaching that far into the 270s, even 280, are being extremely lucky. They must have gotten high power gear that is outclassing the rest of their other equipment.

My two friends were below me yesterday in terms of power level, today they're like 2-6 points above me because they got damn good powerful legendary rewards

I know theres no real rush. But I see sop many people over 280 on here and my friends list. The posters saying its easy to get over 280 and even into 290 are missing a key ingredient to their levels, and thats this luck which Im very frustrated with. But you're right, No rush.
 
Today was productive. Cleared the Nightfall. Got Vigilance Wing, Merciless, Fighting Lion, and a bunch of steps in other exotic quests done. Hit 272. Went through and tested a bunch of legendaries to see what I liked, what to infuse, and what to shard so now I have over 90 legendary shards. I haven't even been doing any real grinding yet and I only just finished all the quests and adventures a few minutes ago. Painless and fun to get to this point.
 
Today was productive. Cleared the Nightfall. Got Vigilance Wing, Merciless, Fighting Lion, and a bunch of steps in other exotic quests done. Hit 272. Went through and tested a bunch of legendaries to see what I liked, what to infuse, and what to shard so now I have over 90 legendary shards. I haven't even been doing any real grinding yet and I only just finished all the quests and adventures a few minutes ago. Painless and fun to get to this point.

Best part of this game is the viability in not grinding. Doing the nightfall relatively easily without doing anything but adventures, story, and quests with no repeats blew my mind. I'm fine with being a little under 280 and not playing optimally, plus the milestones reset so I feel like it's all for naught if you have a little patience.
 
Its not luck. Its doing everything in the right order. Every single person I run with on Xbox has reached 280 on their FIRST toon except 1 guy who hit 279. Then their 2nd toons all got into the mid/upper 280s. They all logged 30-40 hours on first toon.

I feel like a lot of folks probably sharded legendaries that had +5 mods without realizing it in the mid 200s, and now they are struggling because they didnt carry that gear forward to the post 265 grind.

There is a little luck, but that luck is the difference between 280 and 284 on first toon. Not the difference between low 270s and 284.

your guide is meant to be a system for people who research beforehand, which is fine, but in week 1 it's completely understandable that people aren't realizing milestones need to be done late game. People stressing out are folks that are thinking they are doing something wrong, and for the most part in terms of maximizing gains they did, but the game's system has been damn forgiving.

Most folks won't know they need to hold on to milestone/mission rewards until 265 because the game doesn't really tell you otherwise that the cap for blues is 260 and the soft cap for vendor legendaries is 265 until you're way past it.

The stress is unnecessary, getting above a certain level right now is not going to change until the reset anyways, and chances are Bungie is going to make the Raid in a level that is tough to reach but not near impossible for most who put in the effort. And 265-270 seems likely.

Of course we won't find out until tuesday though.

I know theres no real rush. But I see sop many people over 280 on here and my friends list. The posters saying its easy to get over 280 and even into 290 are missing a key ingredient to their levels, and thats this luck which Im very frustrated with. But you're right, No rush.

the main thing folks under 280 missed that others didn't is that milestone/mission rewards when they're powerful gear need to be hoarded unlike every other reward. That's essentially it. Starting Tuesday you can keep going and from now on correct that.
 
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