You don't see how DMCA strikes because "we don't like him (because he's a racist shithead)" is not that far off from "you said mean things about our game" territory?
I know that's a subject for the other thread, but seriously.
PewDiePie calls someone a "fucking n****r" during PUBG livestream
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You don't see how DMCA strikes because "we don't like him (because he's a racist shithead)" is not that far off from "you said mean things about our game" territory?
I know that's a subject for the other thread, but seriously.
For the people speaking in good faith this is exactly what it is. I'm sure there are plenty who are just racist and want to muddy the waters, but it really does feel like we are trying to explain things to adults who should have learned this shit by the time they got out of their teens. ESPECIALLY people who grew up on the internet? Like how could you avoid it? Even before gamergate and the last 4 years.
Gotdatmoney
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You are defending him.
And if you and your friends dont have the balls to say that in public then you know its wrong. Which is obvious.
He's going to say "I'm sorry and I'll try to be better but also fuck the media for making this a big deal" and then he'll just go back to what he was doing before
It's just gonna be the WSJ thing all over again. We've seen time and time again that PDP never learns from this shit.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
That dude was a real zero.
Because PDP wasn't really doing much for anyone to really be angered with at the time GameGate happened if I recall. Boogie and TB got it because those were height of GamerGate years. Boogie was banned for health and safety reasons on GAF because the whole thing with GG and them being hateful people, he honestly couldn't take it that he would keep coming to the thread and even get into arguments which was not good for his sanity so he was banned so he wouldn't have to participate. He later made a blog post on tumblr about how he's "too moderate for GAF" and since then has been very angry at GAF and always calling us out.
For TB, he got into some things with Anita Sarkeesian. One famous line was how he said the death threats were not credible was "because she's still breathing." He also joined Sargon of Akkad in one of his YT podcast videos. He kept claiming he was neutral to the whole situation but always showed what side he was really on by the people he would talk to and the people he would condemn.
ToastyRamen
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Not surprise by this
Rellik
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Sadly, Google only care about dollar bills and how to best avoid taxes.
Black Republican
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Could you imagine if PDP really did get shut down on Youtube? they'd be protests on the streets.
i wish i was joking
i wish i was joking
Dice//
Banned
Very much.
Often when I see these racist outbursts I do wonder what part of their upbringing resulted in it. I feel hate is much more made than in-born.
Dreams-Visions
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Fuck that fear shit. When it comes to the internet you have to control what is taken in and what isn't. Limit internet time, tv time, video game time as you see fit. Get them in after school programs, libraries, social clubs. Profit by having a well-adjusted, non-racist kid that wasn't raised by the internet because you didn't feel like being a responsible parent.
Frozenprince
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I see I missed our daily visit from senior Asablackman
AlexFlame116
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Sometimes I wish I was a famous YouTuber. Bad actually be using my platform and status as a force for good. Unfortunately no one seems to agree on that when it comes to basic principles and Common Sense.
He'd also just move to a site like Dailymotion where they give even less of a shit about moderation than YT and Twitch do
added_time
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Why did I watch that? So depressing. People saying it at home in private is fucking bad enough but having people in the public spotlight thinking they can get away with this in front of millions is far worse because of the influence it can have on younger viewers.
Just awful shit. Fuck that guy.
Just awful shit. Fuck that guy.
Twitch / Youtube is the most popular form of entertainment amongst youth and adolescents; moreover, extremely troubling that it's the only form of entertainment that seems wholly immune from consequence. That guy just isn't providing entertainment while playing a game, he's systematically normalizing casual racism -- "it's 2017 people! You're not a racist if you use the n word."
The word 'toxic' is used as nauseam in reference to anything game related, but it's completely apt here. They're breeding an endless army of anime avatar wielding sociopaths.
User123456
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We know it's wrong, I said as much myself. But among consenting adults who are all fine with it, where it is said precisely to make fun of that kind of language... You don't think it makes any difference? No difference between that and saying "what a fucking n-word" in a public medium?
As I said I'm not defending PDP in the slightest. I was commenting on a very specific part of a comment, unrelated from PDP's situation.
I mean whatever site he went on next, would likely be the next youtube. Plenty of people are upset with what's been happening with demonetization recently anyway.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Feel sorry for your black friends w/no self-esteem
Frozenprince
Banned
FinaruDensetsu
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In this situation I'd rather take this on a case by case than play the slippery slope game. They technically have the right to do what you're afraid of right this moment. It doesn't take a slippery slope. If they started doing that I have no doubt they'd get so much shit from gamers that they'd have to seriously consider trying it again.
If you do it for good reasons people will be OK with it. You do it for bad reasons like because someone criticized your game, people will catch that. This isn't a situation where you have a slippery slope and then a point of no return.
I want to be a responsible parent hence why I'm scared
Waluigilicious
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Well I have two questions.
1. Why hasn't anyone done that already? (Or maybe they do anyway?)
2. These people who get sent free review copies of games along with other goodies... Do you really believe all of them are completely honest about the game?
I don't understand why being against a racist person promoting your game would directly lead to other people taking down videos for other reasons now of all times.
If you are a level headed channel who just does their thing without being racist and vulgar and even when criticising you do it in a reasonable manner you should be fine. And if any company is against that, you just drop them and move on.
Aren't there those who have said that PewDiePie was responsible for the "Ad-ocalypse" too?
But your goal to be responsible and engaging with your future kid's internet behaviour is reason enough to not be scared. You've had time to think about this and you'll have plenty more. You'll be pretty well equipped to deal with it, should it even become an issue
I called my GF a bitch and she reacted the same way, unfortunately I responded 'Bitches be crazy'. That wasnt the best thing I could have said to say the least. Guess I learn things the hardway.
All the demonetization of videos literally started because of PDP
Come the fuck on.
They'll respond by changing the layout of YouTube again.
Gotdatmoney
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Sure. The difference is he has 50 million subscribers and is a garbage human being.
Yes you absolutely are defending PDP. What you are doing is this "in Spain we all say nigger to make fun of African Americans. It's not a big deal". You're trying to down play the impact because you and your friends think saying nigger is the best shit ever and hey it's EU where racism doesn't exist!!!
Then you're applying it in a thread about a guy saying nigger but trying to act like you have some enlightened view where consenting adults degrading black people im private is cool. Stop with this bullshit.
This is the worst type of post.
He really doesn't deserve so much influence and power.
What a fucking callous arsewipe.
If he could get away with all this so far and prove himself untouchable, what does it take for him to lose his entire livelihood?
Lightning_Roller
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He is. Mostly. Everything was starting to break apart with the whole white supremacists on YouTube, then PDP's nazi stunt happened. He lost that good old Disney money (worst move PDP could've made when you lose that Disney money. It's Disney money for fucks sake!!) Then the ad-pocalpyse truly began.
Frozenprince
Banned
Rellik
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Spain is one of the most racist places I've been to. Some of the shit I saw there was absolutely disgusting.
You know you're in for a ride when you leave the airport, turn a corner and see a huge swastika painted on the wall.
Youtube giving a shit is inversely proportional to how big you have.
edit: Quoted wrong person
He's out buying a dog for the apology video.
No, not Shroud. ;_;
YouTube should take action. Don't give him the idea this is fine or he might fuck up even more and cause another major cut in revenue by having advertisers and sponsors turn their back to the platform. Furthermore, allowing this also sends a signal that everything is ok to other youtubers, who might fuck up in similar fashion, making the risk for losing revenue even higher. If you let this fester (like, say, The Donald on Reddit), it will slowly become a larger problem to the extent it cannot be contained anymore when shit goes down. This is not only a problem socially speaking, it is also a problem for the business. And given that youtube doesn't even make Google much money (it did not make profit back in 2015, actually) this can be a big risk to allow.
Not according to Phil deFranco, but he definitely didn't help.
That weird, I mostly see antifa painting. But yeah, most of the language people use with roma , africans (both north africans and subsaharans) and south americans is pretty bad. It has actually improved in the last decade or so, and funnily enough we hadnt had that big increase in racism with the whole syrian refugee mess.
Frozenprince
Banned
A bunch of white male streamers don't have any problem with what he said.
Le gasp.
Le gasp.
Not a good look when people come here and claim your country folk "we in *insert location* use that word differently here". Lol. Throwing yourself and your peeps under the bus. Cmon no.
Waluigilicious
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YouTube is the only organisation that can have impact on this. Guy lost a Disney agreement and he doesn't care. He has so many followers that he can actively get them to hate on any person or company out there who dares go against him (without even trying...imagine if he actually did). There's only one thing in common between all his followers and that's YouTube. YouTube is the one thing he cannot get people to go against. His followers are addicted and won't leave and follow him elsewhere as that's his platform. YouTube is the only thing bigger than him. It's sad, but it's true.
Your move, YouTube!
CarlisleDavid1979
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Black Mirror S2 The Waldo Moment is a good analogy of PDP and his following.
It's fucking sad. That word exists in other languages as well and it still means the same thing. It's not hard to understand.
I call out everyone who uses the word because "we always said it" or "it's not bad because...."
Fuck off, you know it's bad.
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