PewDiePie Responds after using racial slur

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As others have said, the apology, while sincere-looking, rings hollow given both his past actions, and the fact that he made it quite clear in the livestream itself that he didn't give a shit about using the word, nor did he think his audience would.
 
We all should stop mind this guy. He lives because of us.

He's got like what 50 million subscribers. Ignoring the troll isn't a valid tactic here just like when people say it about Donald Trump. We may not like it but it is what it is. He can influence millions and many are children.
 
He's white and utters the word "sorry"?

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I hope he is being honest with this apology, I have been there since 2013 and I know he is better than this.

I was never really a ''fan'' of PewDiePie, I don't give a shit about the bros and the brofists, but I always liked how down to earth and sincere he was back in the days. There was a point where I really liked Felix even though I don't actually enjoy his content all that much. (His The Last of Us playthrough was amazing though, his reaction was interesting and sincere.)

Felix isn't a bad person on the inside, he really isn't, but what he did in recent months are just fucking stupid and ignorant.
He is acting like a 13 years old yelling ''n**ger'' in the middle of the street and think it's just a bad word, nothing big deal.

He really changed a lot since 2014, I rarely seen someone become more racist as they become more famous, it was truly disappointing and heartbreaking.

I really think he was affected by the ''SJW hate culture'' on the internet, his recent jokes such as ''respect wamen'' is the best example. It doesn't help that a lot of people who supported him during the WSJ controversy are alt-rights and anti-SJWs.

If you're reading this Felix (I doubt it though), wake the fuck up, just because those people helped you doesn't mean you have to be one of them, just because some leftist are being aggresive and annoying doesn't mean they are on the wrong side.

Stop being ignorant and stop thinking people who are offended are just overreacting.
This is real life, this isn't a show.
This, up to 2014 when I watched the channel from time to time I saw it as a fun, lighthearted way of escapism with funny, sometimes hilarious playthroughs. The The Last of Us one was fantastic. I stopped watching his videos for these 3 years because I felt they were made for a younger audience, and in this time he has changed a lot. Now every other video is a contrarian rant about the left and the feminists and the SJWs trying to appear "rational" and "the neutral good guy" in front of rabid feminists.

And, I think I can see how this happened, him being inmature and obviously not ready for public scrutiny, the alt-right recruited him the moment he faced criticism from journalists and the left in general.

Hopefully he can learn and grow out of the racism. But in the meantime he gets deserved shit because he's a threat.
 
Reminder that you don't have to badger black people into accepting his apology.
Reminder that he could be genuinely sorry and black people still don't have to accept his apology.
Reminder that he probably isn't genuinely sorry and many of us won't accept his apology.
 
Serious question....

For everyone that says they deem this to be sincere, how exactly are we defining sincerity?

You're not going to get a measure of whether this is sincere or not unless he takes active steps in correcting his behaviour and his attitude. Making an apology holds no weight or meaning in the absence of that. It has the appearence of sincerity, or at the very least regret, but to call this insincere or sincere is just a matter of opinion and probably not worth much discussion.
 
It's important to leave open the path to rehabilitation. The people suggesting that the solution is to shun don't understand how moral psychology works. When you frame the response as a heresy that warrants a witch hunt rather than an opportunity for engagement and education it leads to a level of defensiveness and tribal division that make it harder to change the norms in the long run. It's important to speak up and say when someone treads on a taboo but it's also important to calmly explain why the taboo exists - to leave open the door for people who want to help change beliefs through persuasion. Denigration and demonization may feel good and score points for the home team but it also closes the mind of those on the receiving end and leads to increased polarization in belief. You don't have to be willing to listen, understand, and build bridges but don't screw it up for the people who are doing that to change attitudes that reinforce harmful social conventions.
 
Maybe he should actually help do something about the rampant homophobia, racism and sexism in online gaming communities, how about that? Instead of whining about how he personally made a mistake. Trash.
 
I have no love for this guy, he's clearly a waste of space, but to those who are saying "it's not enough" what would be enough?

Should he donate a ton of his money to a charity or educational foundation or something? Like I have no idea what he could do to fix it. If it was a one off, I guess the apology would be decent, but considering the repetitive nature of these things, what should he do?

Step 1. Make a video without a million cuts
 
Have to admit, this made me lol

His apologies don't matter anyway. He's already proven that he can never keep his word.

He and the other dude he was playing with clearly didn't give a flying fuck about his influence or how they affect anybody else.

Yeah all you need to know to classify this apology under 'bullshit' is this segment. He just doubles down and says nobody in his audience cares anyway. I'm glad there's a mirror for this vid, the original was taken down.

I hope nobody's fooled by this apology, he just did this - two days later no less - because he felt obliged and guessed most of his audience would sweep it under the rug after that.
 
I find that apology acceptable provided he's more careful with this words moving forward. I don't know him well enough and don't watch/support his content to feel comfortable judging him in any way shape or form.
 
The biggest question mark on my mind is how he originally reacted after saying it. His original apology was not like this one. And then there's a further segment where he jokes about it again and his friend says the most stupid things I've ever heard.

Shouldn't he have stopped playing there and then during the online match (I see all the teens gasping) and apologise like this in front of the camera?
 
I have no love for this guy, he's clearly a waste of space, but to those who are saying "it's not enough" what would be enough?

Should he donate a ton of his money to a charity or educational foundation or something? Like I have no idea what he could do to fix it. If it was a one off, I guess the apology would be decent, but considering the repetitive nature of these things, what should he do?

What would be enough is if he actually changes his behavior following this incident

This like like the 10th time he's apologized for something awful and said he would do better and every single time nothing changes

Words are cheap when someone has a history of not actually following through on those words
 
I have no love for this guy, he's clearly a waste of space, but to those who are saying "it's not enough" what would be enough?

Should he donate a ton of his money to a charity or educational foundation or something? Like I have no idea what he could do to fix it. If it was a one off, I guess the apology would be decent, but considering the repetitive nature of these things, what should he do?

maybe he should not monetize the video and actually talk about why the word is hurtful and why it should not be said as opposed to saying 'sorry you were offended but i really don't care honestly'.

If your gonna call someone the big N as just some insult and then get offended that other people are offended there is no helping you. His audience just enables his behavior
 
We're well past second chances, I think it's fair to say that no apology he could have given would be enough for people to immediately forgive him.
 
The f with people calling PDP by his real name as if y'all know him or something lol

I got you.

Why is he apologizing to his followers for "not being a good role model" and not to the people he actually offended. Why is he victimizing himself with these "i learned nothing form my past mistakes, i'm stupid" arguments, when is he going to learn from his mistakes then, when YT pulls the plug on him?
 
Dude has had his fair share of chances. Apologies are over. He is who he is. Maybe ten years from now he will be a different person because of his mistakes, but stuff like this doesn't wash away with an apology. Especially when it's not the first time he's said hateful remarks.

So pretty much this means fuck all to me. I'm sure he will still have a disgusting loyal fan base of fourteen year olds though. I guess that is something to be proud of?
 
I find that apology acceptable provided he's more careful with this words moving forward. I don't know him well enough and don't watch/support his content to feel comfortable judging him in any way shape or form.

aren't you judging him when you find his apology acceptable?
 
He was wrong. He apologized. I have no idea if he's being sincere or not. Those saying "it's not enough", it's been 2-3 days. What do you want, a splashy donation to the NAACP?

Actually, that's probably not a bad idea. It's not like dude can't afford it.
 
PDP's next controversy coming in 3, 2, 1...

There's only so many times you can do hateful, bigoted and racist things before your apologies become worthless.

Also, the fact that this apology came so late and is so short makes it seem like it's something his PR team came up with.
 
I never liked the dude before people found out he was a shitbag. I found his videos to be corny. Now that I know he's a shitbag I have no problems never watching another video of his until the day I die.
 
Stop trying to be a centrist. There is no legitimate justification for his use of the word. Anger is not an excuse for racism.

First of all, applying political judgement on me won't make your argument stronger. Second of all, my point isn't about the action being excusable or not but it being made on purpose to do harm, which is probably not. People are really quick to judge and its easy for internet to hop on a bandwagon to condemn a guy who said something stupid. Its livestream, it happens. And if the guy really did it on purpose to do harm and make some racist propaganda then yeahh shame on him.
 
Really disappointing by the people who find this ''apology'' sincere. I just hope you all aren't closet racist or defending a racist.
 
It's still very irritating that he doesn't address the actual slur itself, but some of the apology is relatively decent:

I'm disappointed in myself because it seems like I've learned nothing from all these past controversies... It's not that I think I can say or do whatever I want and get away with it, that's not it at all, I'm just an idiot, but that doesn't make what I said or how I said it OK." Kjellberg continued. "It was not OK. I'm really sorry if I offended, hurt or disappointed anyone with all of this. Being in the position I am, I should know better ... and I owe it to my audience and myself to do better than this.

These parts alone are 100% better than Jontron's "apology".

That said, the whole thing is still far from perfect. He should have addressed the term itself and WHY it is not OK and how things should be done moving forward.

It also still comes off as very self-centred rather than being an apology to those that the n-word is offensive towards.
 
He was wrong. He apologized. I have no idea if he's being sincere or not. Those saying "it's not enough", it's been 2-3 days. What do you want, a splashy donation to the NAACP
Well, an actual apology instead of sorry if I hurt you would be nice.
 
Thanks to PDP, the intense use of the N-word will now increase even more by young white proto-alt-righters who will turn to fascism once they grow old enough to form a political consciousness

also the fucking worst type of apology he could ever make. He should just be banned from youtube at this point with the shit he's been pulling and the dog whistles he's spreading to the 57 million of subscribers
 
It's important to leave open the path to rehabilitation. The people suggesting that the solution is to shun don't understand how moral psychology works. When you frame the response as a heresy that warrants a witch hunt rather than an opportunity for engagement and education it leads to a level of defensiveness and tribal division that make it harder to change the norms in the long run. It's important to speak up and say when someone treads on a taboo but it's also important to calmly explain why the taboo exists - to leave open the door for people who want to help change beliefs through persuasion. Denigration and demonization may feel good and score points for the home team but it also closes the mind of those on the receiving end and leads to increased polarization in belief. You don't have to be willing to listen, understand, and build bridges but don't screw it up for the people who are doing that to change attitudes that reinforce harmful social conventions.

Sure if he demonstrates that's he's truly willing to change, through actions and not just empty words, people should be willing to rethink their opinion of him. But again, this isn't even close to the first time he's gotten heat for similar things, and he has never shown any sign of genuinely trying to change himself. Now could he actually be sincere and try to improve himself this time? Absolutely. Should we give him the benefit of the doubt before he even tries to prove that he has changed and starts changing his ways? Absolutely not
 
Seems sincere, but if he slips up again........

And for the love of God people, please read the Mod notes in the OP before posting.


Edit: I don't follow PDP so unsure how many times he has screwed up.
If this is a repeat case, then the apology doesn't really mean much.

He admits it in the video that he is obviously not learning the lesson. He references how this is not the first time.

His fans wont care.. this will be back page / old news next week.. sadly. I really wish it would hurt him where it should.. in subs and money but I doubt it. His audience could care less what he does. I know I told my son to stop watching him but he was never a big fan to begin with.
 
First of all, applying political judgement on me won't make your argument stronger. Second of all, my point isn't about the action being excusable or not but it being made on purpose to do harm, which is probably not. People are really quick to judge and its easy for internet to hop on a bandwagon to condemn a guy who said something stupid. Its livestream, it happens. And if the guy really did it on purpose to do harm and make some racist propaganda then yeahh shame on him.

No, it doesn't. At least not to people that understand why that word is wrong and don't actually use it.
 
The sooner YouTube stops all of these talentless bigots making money the better.
I'm one for free speech but I have to agree with this. YouTube should kill his channel or just demonetize it. If anything that helps other YouTubers who don't do shit like this deal with all fucking advertisers pulling money out of Youtube.
 
He was wrong. He apologized. I have no idea if he's being sincere or not. Those saying "it's not enough", it's been 2-3 days. What do you want, a splashy donation to the NAACP?

Actually, that's probably not a bad idea. It's not like dude can't afford it.

If anything can be wiped away with a one off apology without distancing yourself from your own audience which contains a lot of the problem, then you are not sorry.
 
This doesn't seem like a good idea, EA tried doing this with their penalties in FIFA if you swore and people flipped out. I'd rather not have a game censor anyone. I'd like the platforms he's making these videos on to do it. Player Unknown isn't good at handling these situations. No gaming company is.

So let youtube or twitch deal with it if anything.

So if you say PLAYERUNKNOWN isn't good at handling situations like these, then why even list that "using discriminatory language isn't allowed" on their "Rules Of Conduct" page? I mean, it's number fucking 1 on the list. Guess where stream sniping is, something that PLAYERUNKNOWN has indeed ban someone for? Number 12.

You might as well just yank that rule right out of there if you're not going to enforce it especially with definitive proof.
 
Until his actions prove otherwise. This is very hollow.

Sorry really doesn't cut when you've repeatedly done shit.

He better hope to God he doesn't mess up again, but what does it matter. Millions will come flocking to his defense.
 
Incredibly insincere sounding. He will be back to his old ways asap.

His minions of course will lap it up and talk about how he is brave, humble, he didn't even have to do it anyway because it's 2017 and people are so PC it's just a word etc etc etc.

Very disheartening and depressing that someone like him influences millions
 
He was wrong. He apologized. I have no idea if he's being sincere or not. Those saying "it's not enough", it's been 2-3 days. What do you want, a splashy donation to the NAACP?

Actually, that's probably not a bad idea. It's not like dude can't afford it.

Something more potent than, "I'm sorry that this word is bad and that people got mad about it."

The only thing he's sorry about is that he got caught.
 
First of all, applying political judgement on me won't make your argument stronger. Second of all, my point isn't about the action being excusable or not but it being made on purpose to do harm, which is probably not. People are really quick to judge and its easy for internet to hop on a bandwagon to condemn a guy who said something stupid. Its livestream, it happens. And if the guy really did it on purpose to do harm and make some racist propaganda then yeahh shame on him.

Are you dense?

He did a "Nazi" shtick, with uniform and all.
He is selling T-Shirts with him doing "the hitler beard" and the word "context".
He did a "social experiment" where he asked Indians to write "Death to all Jews" on paper (because thats what springs to my mind directly!).
He is doing "Hitler did nothing wrong" memes.
 
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