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[Alej]

Day one.

 

[Aeana]

Indeed. People have this long-standing misconception that Secret of Mana was a CD game with lots more content at some point and that Square simply deleted a bunch of assets to make it fit into a cartridge. That wasn't the case. The original CD game was an action RPG called Chrono Trigger and it didn't really get past the planning stages on paper documents.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1259013
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1196519

The CD game was canceled but Square recycled parts of its ideas into three different games: a sequel to Final Fantasy Adventure, a second game called Chrono Trigger (which reuses the title of the CD game but is different), and Chrono Cross.

Gaia's Navel for example appears in both Secret of Mana and Chrono Cross (although to be precise it was originally an idea for the canceled Famicom Disk Game Seiken Densetsu: The Emergence of Excalibur).

Gaia's Navel in Seiken Densetsu: The Emergence of Excalibur:

Gaia's Navel in Secret of Mana:

Gaia's Navel in Chrono Cross:

In Seiken Densetsu 2, that place is called ガイアのへそ (gaia's navel), and in Chrono Cross, it's called 世界のへそ (world's navel). "navel of the world" as a concept appears in many other works, including Dragon Quest 3. Many cultures of the world have a concept of an axis mundi or navel of the world, too.

It's kind of a weak connection between Secret of Mana and Chrono Cross.

 

[JP]

I've watched it a few times now and that PAX video shows separate volume sliders for BGM and SFX but the camera is too low down to see if there;s anything above those two options. I'm wondering if there will also be a separate VOICES slider above those which could allow people to silence the talking and only play using the text boxes as what's shown of those suggests that all the required information will be included as text.

Has anybody seen anything which shows whether there is also a separate slider for the voices?

 

[Begaria]

NOW WE IN IT - previews and full footage!

Hands-On With The Secret of Mana Remake
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu.../hands-on-with-the-secret-of-mana-remake.aspx

Secret Of Mana Hands-On: The Return Of A Legend
http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/09/03/secret-of-mana-hands-on-the-return-of-a-legend

Twitch - interview with a developer and Gameplay
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/172092350?t=11s

Positive previews so far (despite misgivings of the graphical style from them) and seeing the gameplay from the get go is nice.

 

[LiQuid!]

Not shocked but saddened to hear there won't be online coop. Will be just like when I was a kid and didn't have any friends to play with. They managed to time it out perfectly to miss all the years in between then and now when I actually had friends.

 

[BigEmil]

NOW WE IN IT - previews and full footage!

Hands-On With The Secret of Mana Remake
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/featu.../hands-on-with-the-secret-of-mana-remake.aspx

Secret Of Mana Hands-On: The Return Of A Legend
http://comicbook.com/gaming/2017/09/03/secret-of-mana-hands-on-the-return-of-a-legend

Twitch - interview with a developer and Gameplay
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/172092350?t=11s

Positive previews so far (despite misgivings of the graphical style from them) and seeing the gameplay from the get go is nice.

The game looks great double dipping on Vita and PS4, love Secret of Mana

 

[preta]

So according to that Twitch stream, it seems that apparently the music we've been hearing actually is the new version of the soundtrack - it's just that it's only subtly different. It was also arranged by Kikuta himself.

 

[jb1234]

Not shocked but saddened to hear there won't be online coop. Will be just like when I was a kid and didn't have any friends to play with. They managed to time it out perfectly to miss all the years in between then and now when I actually had friends.

I have friends but they're all long distance so I'm pretty much in the same boat. This is a disappointment, for sure.

So according to that Twitch stream, it seems that apparently the music we've been hearing actually is the new version of the soundtrack - it's just that it's only subtly different. It was also arranged by Kikuta himself.

As is this. They could have really gone all out with this music, rearranged it for actual instruments. Instead, it sounds pretty much the same, just slightly clearer. Really bummed about this. Another thing I'm noticing is that Randi moves quite a bit slower than the original. It makes him feel sluggish.

 

[ULTROS!]

Vita Box Art (JP):

 

[LiQuid!]

Vita Box Art (JP):

I'm sure the US version will be all 3 characters in action poses staring menacingly at the player with their weapons drawn.

 

[ULTROS!]

I'm sure the US version will be all 3 characters in action poses staring menacingly at the player with their weapons drawn.

Something like this?

 

[duckroll]

I'm sure the US version will be all 3 characters in action poses staring menacingly at the player with their weapons drawn.

You think the US version will have a box. Cute.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I'm sure the US version will be all 3 characters in action poses staring menacingly at the player with their weapons drawn.

There's no NA physical release

 

[LiQuid!]

Jeez guys I was just making a quip about generic US dudebro box art. Would be kind of funny to see the Secret of Mana kids in a mockup of something like the Destiny 2 box

 

[RPGCrazied]

There's no NA physical release

Source? And this is messed up. This isn't some indie developer. Release the disc!

 

[maniac-kun]

I hope this is a success and they make a Secret of Evermore remake next

 

[kromeo]

Were the character names fixed in the original Japan release? I always wondered where they came from

Or were they in the manual?

 

[entremet]

Source? And this is messed up. This isn't some indie developer. Release the disc!

Look at SE's track record in the west. Am I Setsuna didn't get a physical release here. Hopefully, the JPN versions include the English language text. Import that if so. But don't hold your breath for a physical release.

 

[Alec]

I hope this is a success and they make a Secret of Evermore remake next

Sorry bro, Evermore isn't a Seiken Densetsu game.

Also, a reminder to what we are missing out on.

 

[LiQuid!]

I hope this is a success and they make a Secret of Evermore remake next

I hope you realize how impossible this is.

 

[CTLance]

Also, a reminder to what we are missing out on.
[img ]http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2017/08/25/som-1503694558046_grande.png[/img]

Hrnnnnngh. Want.

As an aside, it's a crying shame they waited with this stuff until after Hiro Isono died. I would have loved for him to paint some dedicated Secret of Mana HD remix artwork. ...four years and a bunch of months too late, dammit.

 

[Tohsaka]

I hope this is a success and they make a Secret of Evermore remake next

Not going to happen, we'll likely be getting Seiken Densetsu 3 remade in this style next and it'll get an official localization for the first time.

 

[DarkestHour]

I want this all over my body

 

[Celine]

Quick and dirty comparison between the original SoM and the remakes on ios and PC/Vita/PS4.

 

[Celine]

I wish Square Enix gave this sort of attention to gems from SNES era Enix like Illusion of Time and Terranigma. This artstyle and gameplay engine would seemingly fit both of those titles. Im unsure who even owns the rights to those games though :/

The only Quintet game SquareEnix has ever re-released was ActRaiser.
Chance is slime sadly.

 

[Bulzeeb]

I think it looks nice but not full price nice, will buy on a steam sale

edit:

fuck, I woudl have bought this day zero

Sorry bro, Evermore isn't a Seiken Densetsu game.

Also, a reminder to what we are missing out on.

 

[Brandon F]

Does look a lot better in action. Reasonably excited now.

 

[GodfatherX]

Quick and dirty comparison between the original SoM and the remakes on ios and PC/Vita/PS4.

I kinda want that iphone version, did that "remake" show up anywhere else?

 

[Syril]

I kinda want that iphone version, did that "remake" show up anywhere else?

It got an Android port years later.

 

[GodfatherX]

It got an Android port years later.

Controller support? Obviously drawn to the graphical style, but is it generally considered a good port/remake

 

[DiipuSurotu]

So according to that Twitch stream, it seems that apparently the music we've been hearing actually is the new version of the soundtrack - it's just that it's only subtly different. It was also arranged by Kikuta himself.

If it's similar to Kikuta's "Secret of Mana Genesis" arranged album, I'm fine with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKFzZX8YdoU&list=PL5F0E72C3DE5AB719&index=10

 

[Robin64]

If it's similar to Kikuta's "Secret of Mana Genesis" arranged album, I'm fine with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKFzZX8YdoU&list=PL5F0E72C3DE5AB719&index=10

That's kind of awful. Sounds like the original track played through a layer of sponge in a cave.

 

[DiipuSurotu]

That's kind of awful. Sounds like the original track played through a layer of sponge in a cave.

wat

It's exactly the same as the original except the samples are higher quality.

 

[Quonny]

Man, this looks so much better in action than in screens.

I like the look of it, but I'm sold on it now seeing it in motion.

 

[Syril]

Controller support? Obviously drawn to the graphical style, but is it generally considered a good port/remake

I have no idea.

 

[preta]

Controller support? Obviously drawn to the graphical style, but is it generally considered a good port/remake

It does have controller support. The only problems I can really think of are the somewhat blurry filter on the graphics and the fact that it's 30 fps instead of the original's 60. It does have some good new features like 360 degree movement and the music no longer cutting out for sound effects, and I think some other bug fixes as well.

 

[Fou-Lu]

Quick and dirty comparison between the original SoM and the remakes on ios and PC/Vita/PS4.

The ios remake looks a lot worse than the SNES version and even the new one IMO.

 

[Shin-Ra]

Wrong thread.

 

[Alec]

Yeah, in motion this game looks pretty great. Stills don't do it justice.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Definitely looks good in motion. I love that Japanese box art.

 

[Skulldead]

It was looking very good... until the boss fight, it was looking boring as hell ! Turn around attack tactic all the way....

 

[Rad Shadow]

No physical release? Shame.

The characters staring at the Mana tree will forever be my desktop background.

 

[zeopower6]

https://twitter.com/SquareEnix/status/909775541204635648

Looks like they are asking for questions on Reddit to ask at TGS.

https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/909839620325732352

This #fortheshelf campaign could get traction too.

 

[ExitPlanetDust]

https://twitter.com/SquareEnix/status/909775541204635648

Looks like they are asking for questions on Reddit to ask at TGS.

https://twitter.com/gematsucom/status/909839620325732352

This #fortheshelf campaign could get traction too.

Done and done.

 

[DonMigs85]

Somebody ask why the merchants aren't dancing

 

[kubricks]

Somebody ask why the merchants aren't dancing

Which is a very important question!
Give me back that dance!

 

[GhostTrick]

More important: Somebody ask if the 2D version is going to be included in the remake.

 

[Yu Narukami]

New info from gematsu.
http://gematsu.com/2017/09/secret-mana-remake-japanese-voice-cast-announced

 

[DonMigs85]

New info from gematsu.
http://gematsu.com/2017/09/secret-mana-remake-japanese-voice-cast-announced

Wow, now I finally know how Vandole and Thanatos are really supposed to look.

 

[CTLance]

Wow, now I finally know how Vandole and Thanatos are really supposed to look.

I reject this artwork. My head canon is better. Bah. Bah I say.