Mass shooting at the Mandalay Bay Las Vegas; 58 dead, 500+ injured.

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I hate the fact that shit like this is almost always guaranteed to happen. Seems like it isn't possible to be ready for mass shootings. All you can do is hope it never happens. Makes me sad.
 
jellies_two said:
The keyboard warriors are already connecting a Facebook profile of the supposed husband of one possible Marilou Darnley, who is on linked in as a female vegas gambling worker.

They have pulled his "likes", and put them together in a new page on a crap un-moderated Wikipedia . There is the original Facebook page of this supposed husband and shooter but I have no interest in chasing down whether it is real or his likes are real or he is the guy or she is the same as the wanted person. Etc.
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That page is a breitbart supported Wikipedia alternative. They clearly have a goal in mind.

They want to control the narrative. Even if it ends up not being true the damage is done and all of the twitter bots and right-wing mouthpieces will have already shared it.

If it proves to be completely unrelated the conspiracy theorists will latch on.
 
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I work at Mandalay Bay (at one of the restaurants). We all had to evacuate (employees and customers) to the safe spot area if an emergency ever were to happen during work. 2.5 hours later finally was able to make it home. A lot of the concert goers that were walking back to the hotel were crying and were really shooked up. We were told that that a gun man was loose in the 32rd level of the hotel.
 
onken said:
I'd be curious to see the stats on people that own these weapons before planning these awful crimes as opposed to people who steal or buy them spur of the moment. I highly suspect it's mostly the former, if so, how do you even prevent these with tighter regulation?

I mean even banning automatic weapons is not a silver bullet, isn't it relatively easy for a determined person to modify a semi into full auto?
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Conversions aren't difficult and they are illegal. You'll find some legal owners with full-autos but those are heavily regulated by the ATF, at least here in Illinois. Wife's uncle had a bunch but he collected them, they were relics that didn't function (old, old, old). He still took regular unannounced visits from the ATF despite them being non-functional. Black market is a different story, though.

RIP to the victims. This is insane.
 
Doctrine Dark said:
I hate the fact that shit like this is almost always guaranteed to happen. Seems like it isn't possible to be ready for mass shootings. All you can do is hope it never happens. Makes me sad.
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Stop selling guns to random people.

Worked for most of the world.
 
Have a friend who went over to Vegas just last week with her boyfriend, hope she's okay. Beyond words how bad this is. Hope the injured make a full recovery and RIP to the victims.
 
Horrific stuff. Saw some of those videos and can't begin to imagine how terrifying that must have been. Thoughts go out to everyone in Vegas, stay safe.
 
This will result in all the casinos having TSA-like security. Adapting this sort of thing will be quite an inconvenience to the people who want to vacation there and cost millions.

There will be no gun grabbing.
 
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I work at Mandalay Bay (at one of the restaurants). We all had to evacuate (employees and customers) to the safe spot area if an emergency ever were to happen during work. 2.5 hours later finally was able to make it home. A lot of the concert goers that were walking back to the hotel were crying and were really shooked up. We were told that that a gun man was loose in the 32rd level of the hotel.[/QUOTE]

Glad you're safe.
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MSNBC confirms that the linkedin profile of the possible companion posted in this thread appears to be legitimate.
 
Jacksinthe said:
Conversions aren't difficult and they are illegal. You'll find some legal owners with full-autos but those are heavily regulated by the ATF, at least here in Illinois. Wife's uncle had a bunch but he collected them, they were relics that didn't function (old, old, old). He still took regular unannounced visits from the ATF despite them being non-functional. Black market is a different story, though.

RIP to the victims. This is insane.
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I can also confirm that legality of such a firearm is also heavily regulated to an extreme in Texas as well. It's nearly impossible.
 
ManUnkindH said:
What concert was that in the videos? Anyone know the name of the band?
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Country music and the guy - Jason Aldean - was in the news briefly ages ago saying, (as a country and western mega millionaire I might add), that trump has a knack for communicating with poor people.
Other than that he says he stays out of politics and said he wasn't registered to vote, having moved recently. That's the extent of the performers connection to politics.
 
antonz said:
She is/was Married to a man in Arkansas but she is living with another man in Nevada. The police referenced roommate so it seems likely it would not be the man in Arkansas. Unfortunately its one big shitshow on social media now throwing around all sorts of crap
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The woman in the pictures with the guy from Arkansas looks a lot younger and looks nothing like the MariLou police are looking for that they released the photo of. So it seems it is not even that she was or is married to him and just that he is married to somebody with the same name and the internet are getting reckless with their "detective" work again. Especially when that couple have young kids in the pictures with them that are now being spread around.

The other guy is who is registered to the address police broadcast over the scanners. But no guarantee he has anything to do with it either or for that matter MariLou herself.

Edit: Actually there are some pictures of him with her so think the pictures I saw could be his daughter and grandchildren or something. Either way the internet are being reckless.
 
dili said:
I wonder how many more times this is gonna happen before western countries unite and take a stand...
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I agree gun control is much needed in the United States. The west should take a stand against the NRA and pass stricter gun control laws to make it extremely hard for mad motherfuckers like this to get automatic or semi automatic weapons.
 
So far on twitter I've seen pictures spread of two men, all tweets claim that this is the killer with rants about their reasons etc.

At least one of them has to be wrong and at least one person smeared for no reason other than people wanting to be early with the news.

Despicable really.
 
Still on lockdown in the Bellagio. Police and security stopping anybody from leaving. Crowd is getting antsy.
 
Brazil said:
Stop selling guns to random people.

Worked for most of the world.
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well,there's also the problem of the guns alkready in circulation in the US,without an extended buyback program you are not gonna solve much,the business is just gonna move from shops to private transactions with even less controls
 
Jeff Albertson said:
So far on twitter I've seen pictures spread of two men, all tweets claim that this is the killer with rants about their reasons etc.

At least one of them has to be wrong and at least one person smeared for no reason other than people wanting to be early with the news.

Despicable really.
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Yep, brings to mind the misidentified Boston bomber guy who was driven to suicide. It's worth remembering that whenever the urge to post internet detective stuff without very strong evidence comes up.
 
Jeff Albertson said:
So far on twitter I've seen pictures spread of two men, all tweets claim that this is the killer with rants about their reasons etc.

At least one of them has to be wrong and at least one person smeared for no reason other than people wanting to be early with the news.

Despicable really.
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Oh one of them is very much malicious in intent. One of them is very much a Liberal in ideology so the right wingers are masturbating to the idea they can say its a left wing terrorist.
 
Majukun said:
well,there's also the problem of the guns alkready in circulation in the US,without an extended buyback program you are not gonna solve much,the business is just gonna move from shops to private transactions with even less controls
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Guns aren't alcohol. They should be fucking hard to get. Even if there are less controls, just making those transactions illegal is a huge step.
 
SlipperyFishes said:
I agree gun control is much needed in the United States. The west should take a stand against the NRA and pass stricter gun control laws to make it extremely hard for mad motherfuckers like this to get automatic or semi automatic weapons.
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There's a 99% chance the weapon in question was illegally obtained and/or modified. The controls on truly automatic weapons are actually incredible and a model framework that actual gun control advocates should be aware of and advocate for. Less than a dozen incidents in close to 100 years.

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Guns aren't alcohol. They should be fucking hard to get. Even if there are less controls, just making those transactions illegal is a huge step.
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Guns aren't banned, even in the strictest countries. Most countries aren't dealing with 300+ million guns either.
 
Mario said:
Still on lockdown in the Bellagio. Police and security stopping anybody from leaving. Crowd is getting antsy.
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They are still trying to find the woman he may have been there with. If she's still alive or even there, she's presumably somewhere close.
 
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