Mass shooting at the Mandalay Bay Las Vegas; 58 dead, 500+ injured.
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Stay safe everyone. My heart goes out to those affected.PingPongvonLaserstein
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My mind always goes back to the whole Richard Jewell fiasco.
R. I. P
Terrible news, and what's worse is that most Americans are already desensitized to this kind of violence. I've no idea what some of the earlier posters are on about, but this is absolutely not a global issue, nor should countries band together to overcome gun violence. This is purely an American issue, and as mean as it sounds, you lot are really on your own here. I really hope you get your shit together.
Terrible news, and what's worse is that most Americans are already desensitized to this kind of violence. I've no idea what some of the earlier posters are on about, but this is absolutely not a global issue, nor should countries band together to overcome gun violence. This is purely an American issue, and as mean as it sounds, you lot are really on your own here. I really hope you get your shit together.
xXCHAOSXx
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Sounded like "come on fuck face"
The misidentified Boston bomber kid committed suicide prior to the bombings.
Semi-automatics need to be just as unavailable.
I wasn't saying to ban them entirely.
cartoon_soldier
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Already exists in India post Taj attacks.
All 4/5 star hotels and some 3 star ones have bags and guests go through security checks, generally just metal detectors.
Cars are also checked at almost all 5 stars before they are allowed entry into the premises.
Yeah. USA got it tough. The rest of the world is smooth sailing though.
Laughing Banana
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How many innocents need to get shot before America wakes up and see how fucked up its gun situation really is.
Short of mass genocide I don't think anything will happen. Heck, I doubt even a mass genocide will make America changes its fucked up gun situation.
Such a terrible thing.
Short of mass genocide I don't think anything will happen. Heck, I doubt even a mass genocide will make America changes its fucked up gun situation.
Such a terrible thing.
Tony Redgrave
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Horrible, my thoughts and prayers are with the victims.
Wonder if we will ever be able to get over this kind of hate and violence as a species, ruining so many lives because of hate...smh.
Wonder if we will ever be able to get over this kind of hate and violence as a species, ruining so many lives because of hate...smh.
Source? I'm only aware his body was found April 23, but I didn't know the cause of death was estimated before the bombing (April 15). He was missing since March.
Feel free to PM if this is too off-topic though.
The earlier poster's mention of the Olympic bombing publicly identified suspect was another good example.
This person is an idiot.
Not for trying to get himself killed... but for attracting attention to his location where there are 50 people around him.
giancarlo123x
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There is no number for your answer, this stupid fucking country will never change. If nothing changed when elementary students got murdered then I have no faith in change ever.
Not happening. Again, you are approaching from a supply side. That battle is already lost. The key is to limit transport, require licensing and training, proper storage, background checks etc... there will never be an out and out ban, and most bans just grandfather in the existing hundreds of millions of guns. You know what the AWB did? It made preban rifles and mags slightly more expensive. That's it. Gun control will be a grind and a half politically. Starting at "well just ban all semis" isn't going to get anywhere.
chromatic9
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The idea is you start now and then in whatever time it takes there'll be considerably less guns. Could be 17, 28 or 56 or 105 years time before you filter out the guns and gun ownership mentality.
Majukun
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and the way to make them hard to get it's to increase the checks on buyers at a shop, but also to reduce the numbers already circulating...there are already enough guns to cover every man,woman and child in the country, once the official market stiffens,the black market is gonna thrive, even if illegal, as long as there are tons of weapons around.
another thing would be to force a law where a gun user it's also responsible for anything that it's done with his/her gun,even by someone else, to force people to take better precautions when storing them around the home for example...but that it's another hard thing to pass
gun culture in the us it's a freaking mess of economical,cultural and behavioral motivations, believe me,i studied it.
Actual gun reform will only happen if politicians get shot, or if minorities start arming themselves
This has precedence in the US. 40 years ago Republicans were all for gun control coz they were terrified of armed Black Panthers.
If it's just civilians getting massacred by armed "lone wolfs", then Congress won't give a single fuck about it.
holygeesus
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The range I went to recently had a Mini-Gun.
Edit - here https://www.battlefieldvegas.com/collections/mini-gun
America's true religion is capitalism. As long as profits rule the country, human tragedy has to take a backseat. especially with Republicans in office. It's heartbreaking, but it's the truth.
Dreams-Visions
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Yea...I think when the reports were 2 dead we knew that number was going up. Too much automatic fire.
RIP to the victims and I hope the rest pull through.
RIP to the victims and I hope the rest pull through.
Legal if you have tens of thousands of dollars and can pass an insane amount of checks, have the local sheriff sign off on it etc... It doesn't sound anything like a belt fed gun though.
Majukun
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americans are not gonna "forget" about guns just because they are harder to get or because there's a fraction less circulating..it's engrained in your culture and lives in symbiosis with some many OTHER aspects of the american culture that the idea that it's just gonna disappear it's a bit farfetch'
that being said,australia had a somewhat comparable history with guns compared to the US, although minor,and managed to bring the situation under control reducing the number of guns with a buyback program..there's no assurance that it's gonna work as well In the US..in fact i'm sure it's not gonna go as swiftly for sure, but it's one of many necessary steps.
Always-honest
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Yep. A fucking dumbass.
BobbeMalle
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Terrible news.
Are there news on the motive?
Are there news on the motive?
Monkeyball
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Yeah, it's all about white people afraid of losing power, just like every other fucking thing in existence in the US.
Shadow Puppetry
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A politician was shot some time ago.
But those weren't sneak attacks. They blaster through the doors firing and throwing grenades. :/
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Not yet
We won't know for days and it will likely be speculation unless they find his companion or they find a note. The assailant was taken down by police.
Well, I am watching ABC and they describe the shooter as a 'lone wolf', 64 year old white male. Typical of media coverage....
Relevant:
https://www.juancole.com/2015/02/radicalized-islamophobic-terrorists.html
edit: Now they are saying since he is a 64 year old, he probably doesn't use the Internet and is unlikely to have a digital footprint. This is some really shoddy analysis.
Yeah I don't think that is even enough. NRA money is too much. They basically pretended Scalise was the first member of congress shot and since it was a Leftist that was all that mattered. They totally ignored Gabrielle Giffords having been shot prior
Are they using the phrase "lone wolf" already
The white supremacist media also needs to be fucking overhauled.
Monkeyball
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Bullshit, but we have been over this already MANY times.
In my country you can't just get an automatic human slayer in the supermarket. A mass shooting like this has NEVER happened in my country because of that.
jellies_two
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Mental health yes probably one factor.
Nobody knows if religion is anything to do with it.
lol nah bro
What else would you do to match this? Short of some expertise in making your own weapon.
Also the whole "it would still be bad" argument is literal nonsense. You cant use it to stop progress because there would still be bad in the world.
Literally look at any country with no guns and see if your statement makes any sense.
They might not find a way to do quite as much damage ALL the goddamn time. That's the idea.
Mental illness is treatable. A huge death toll due to acquisition of unnecessarily powerful arms is not.
Here we go. Y'all are so transparent it's starting to get ridiculous.
Yeah, I'm sure he could have killed 20+ people from the 32nd floor of a hotel with a knife. Gun control is not a cure for the sociological conditions that lead to these shootings. It's just a sensible way to limit the damage.
Just a few days ago in France someone stabbed two people to death in a train station before being shot by police. With the weapon this guy had in Vegas he could have killed dozens of people before being terminated.
Skyline Owl
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Now ain't this some shit.
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