EA shuts down Visceral, moves Star Wars game to EA Vancouver/others
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Pilgrimzero
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Good bye Dead Space. Atleast we had 2 great games.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
It has to do more with intent than anything EA really wants their Destiny like they wanted their COD last gen and early this gen. That means they aren't going to stop until even if that means more studio closures and layoffs.
All of this sounded great until you made me 42 years old before I get to see it.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
There is a distinct difference between a developer providing post-launch support for their games and a game being designed as a service.
If you can't or refuse to see the distinction I don't know what to tell you.
Bits N Pieces
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Poor Anthem 
It would take quite a lot for me to have any interest in this title now. Was really looking forward to seeing what Hennig and the team were making. From that EA quote, I fully expect the game will now become some multiplayer-first game, with no emphasis on story whatsoever. With micro transactions and loot boxes I'm sure.
Ubi has a lot of IP that generates a good revenue i don't even think they are interested in the SW license.
facetheslayer92
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We just cant have nice things.
mango drank
Member
Damn. Dead Space 4 was one of the games I was most looking forward to this gen, even though I knew nothing about it. Was it even confirmed to be in development?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
EA already has their Destiny like:
Literally what I just said pages ago was that they're games as a service, but their methods of player retention differ. Either way, they're still GaaS. You can come to terms with that, or you can just attempt to arbitrarily define them and be wrong.
CrichtonKicks
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Because the companies don't have an IP or technology that they can bring with them. It's not like Visceral can use Frostbite working for a different company. Why pay for the overhead buying Visceral wholesale when you can just cherry pick key employees that are now out of work?
Dandy Lyin
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EA can't help itself.
Poor Anthem
Game is probably going to be a piece of shit. EA can't keep their fingers out of the chef's food, so to speak.
Saucycarpdog
Member
Don't know where he is getting his numbers from. As far as we know Battlefront sold in 14 million copies.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Mark browns video series on dead space just got that much more sadder
Audioboxer
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Because transforming the game into open world = easier to implement loot boxes, MTs and space currency.
Can you imagine The Last Guardian with loot boxes and microtransactions? Linear games tend to be all about the story, not about trying to get people to pay for F2P shit.
Obliterator
Member
Personally I think a space single player focus should move to is digital only smaller priced experiences ala Hellblade.
I think there's a lot of market share you could potentially tap into going that route
I think there's a lot of market share you could potentially tap into going that route
MS will have their end game yet
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
EA already has their Destiny like:
Game looks uninspired AF. This game's going to kill Bioware.
Theslammer
Member
So is that what you meant to say originally? Because large-scale single-player means large-scale single-player, not AAA single-player focused non-open world, which has a lot of caveats to it.
From just this year, Resident Evil 7 is the first that comes to my mind. The latest South Park game, and I'm about to start Persona 5 but have no idea whether it's open or not. Nioh was published by Sony but is now coming to PC that does will in both areas, similar to Bloodborne/Souls. The Crash 1 - 3 Remake sold like crazy and is as "traditional" as it gets to quote the other poster. Are we excluding platformers from single-player experiences? We probably shouldn't.
I realize many developers prefer open-world (Watch Dogs 2, FFXV), but I'm not sure why that matters? Just seems like developers like to make big worlds since technology supporters it now more than ever.
EDIT: I mean, from that last sentence, if that's the main point you're making, I don't disagree. I do disagree, however, that "traditional gaming" is dying since we'd then have to define it, but again, the post you responded to was in regards to another poster, not you.
Mass Effect
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baberunisei
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I think Im finally getting too old for new videogames. Almost surely the current Gen will be the last one I follow. After that, gonna focus only on retrogaming
MrTroubleMaker
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Thanks Visceral for the original Dead Space. You're going to be missed
This game is perfect for the Destiny/The Division crowd.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
EA already has their Destiny like:
Literally what I just said pages ago was that they're games as a service, but their methods of player retention differ. Either way, they're still GaaS. You can come to terms with that, or you can just attempt to arbitrarily define them and be wrong.
It's not out yet though.
Necron
Member
I laughed... Because is true.
Really guys. It's over. The SP games are now a luxury for corporations. I'm guessing that this is going to be the last ten with real SP experience from AAA games. the exceptions are: Nintendo, Sony first party studios and the information developers.
Next gen everything will be a Battleroyale or Destiny kind of game.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
This reminds me of when someone in OT said that Beauty and The Beast had flop written all over it. >> Anthem's concept is like guaranteed to sell.
I'm for games like Uncharted: LL which is clearly smaller in budget and retail price.
But even again. 1st party can take those risks. 3rd party not so much.
Yep. I'll be 38. It's just sad for me. This is something (the death of traditional singleplayer games) that has been talked about for a LONG time already, but this is actually the first time that it actually looks to be that way for real and not some distant horror scenario. I'm not adapting well to this new GAAS landscape. Some of my friends are and admit that they like more endless multiplayer games than story focused linear games. Those guys will have nothing to fear. But to be a bit dramatic, it seems like the end is near for me. Gaming isn't my only hobby so even if the industry alienates me I have other passions but still
Game development is tricky...
We have no insight into the project that for all we know couldve been missmanaged in one way or another or just not working out as they envisioned it.
Closing studios is never an easy decision for any company and Im sure there was more behind it than what is being conveyed in the comms. Regardless, EA ran out of patience and Visceral lost their trust.
Shame for everyone involved, I hope they land on their feet.
We have no insight into the project that for all we know couldve been missmanaged in one way or another or just not working out as they envisioned it.
Closing studios is never an easy decision for any company and Im sure there was more behind it than what is being conveyed in the comms. Regardless, EA ran out of patience and Visceral lost their trust.
Shame for everyone involved, I hope they land on their feet.
Gormless Noodle
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Yeah that would certainly make management look bad to the investors, guess that's a risk not worth taking.
I don't care about Anthem because Destiny-esques don't appeal to me at all. What I fear is Dragon Age 4 is now a Destiny-esque and Mike Laidlaw walked out because of it.
...I guess I also technically care about Anthem because I don't want BioWare dead. Bleh. Still though.
...I guess I also technically care about Anthem because I don't want BioWare dead. Bleh. Still though.
adversarial
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Can't spell DEAD without EA.
RIP.
RIP.
The Jazz Cabbage Master
Member
take the Star Wars license away from EA.