encephalon
Member
This is system wars bullshit lol.
The state of NeoGAF
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This is system wars bullshit lol.
woo and indeed hoo
Banned
Kindly permaban my furry feline arse from NeoGAF.
Apologies for the lack of lulz final post or biting commentary.
However the owner of this site and what he has turned it into are just not worth the effort.
Apologies for the lack of lulz final post or biting commentary.
However the owner of this site and what he has turned it into are just not worth the effort.
Always-honest
Banned
Hmnkay... i see people getting banned left and right but no requested permabans.
Unless people do some crazy shit. I'm not much for drama. i hate drama. So i don't want to make dramatic suicide threads or insult people.
So again, i respectfully request a permaban.
I'm a better man without this forum. And i don't have the self discipline to log out and not log in anymore.
Unless people do some crazy shit. I'm not much for drama. i hate drama. So i don't want to make dramatic suicide threads or insult people.
So again, i respectfully request a permaban.
I'm a better man without this forum. And i don't have the self discipline to log out and not log in anymore.
Nailed it.
My story:
Some poster made a thread calling Summer Lesson problematic.
I chimed in about the separation of reality from imagination.
CrossingEden comes in and denounces developers that make such games.
I said that developers should have the right to make the games they want.
CrossingEden calls people who play Summer Lesson paedophiles and sexual predators.
I argued that saying games make people sexual predators is the same as saying games make people murderers.
CrossingEden argued that there is no point in discussing video game violence because it is different because reasons.
I said that he is being hypocritical about it.
CrossingEden strawmanned me and suddenly made my position as "I support paedophilic content", and then summoned his lapdog besada (this is me jumping to conclusions due to my resentment with CrossingEden and for that I apologize; I don't know how to strikethrough so I just bolded it)
besada not only threatened to ban me, but also threatened to report me to authorities as well as report me to my work place (my registered e-mail was from my workplace)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1295029
#sorrynotsorry
Member
Sounds like a good reason to keep you around, no?
I'm really sad Neogaf is devloving this way. My girlfriend and I met here. The people of gaf helped me when I was homeless, when I came out of the closet, and when I needed a job.
GAF was my all in one stop for news stories, discoveries, games, and socializing online.
There's no chance of things being the way they were again is there?
GAF was my all in one stop for news stories, discoveries, games, and socializing online.
There's no chance of things being the way they were again is there?
WhiskeyKnight
Member
Dude, that is exactly our point. Why is there some blanket mod policy that a certain person -- any person -- is above criticism? That is not right. Also, I've noticed dismissing something as a "shit post" is a favorite tactic of GAF's more censorious users. I was asking a legitimate question in a civil and courteous way. It's not a shit post.
psychowave
Member
summer lesson is pedophilic garbage tho
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Ok I guess you were talking about the past, my bad. I read it as a defence of current gaf.
cicero
Member
My sarcasm meter has always been a bit off. But the idea that this is a serious legitimate non-fallacious argument, or that it would be considered and defended as such by a large portion of the responding users in the usual NeoGAF kneejerk leftist echo chamber threads, which it would be, is simply ridiculous. It is the exact reason why such a large number of users either left, or like myself, relegated ourselves to complete silence except on the most innocuous of gaming related topics. And even then, one quickly learned which threads to avoid, like the Nintendo threads, due to ridiculous bans. One quickly learned to avoid threads with Amir0x, EviLore, and other angry mods/admins with an axe to grind, because you never knew what you might say that could offend the videogame fandoms, political/social leanings, sensibilities or previous grudges that a mod or admin had against you.
The pro-pedophile apologist posts and threads, Amir0x's LONG scummy history, the long standing over abuse of banning, the general vicious tenor of political threads if you failed to toe the tacitly and openly stated official progressive position on whatever topic was being discussed. All long standing reasons over which I would have been happy to leave. Except I had connections to fantastic people here and this was a contact point of last resort. I had also enjoyed great threads here and wanted the opportunity to be able to ask simple questions while keeping my head down. Of course, that kind of thinking resulted in a disconnect and then huge slowdown from my once normal numerous daily checkups. But I was just a "racist/bigot/xenophobe/misogynist/Republican", right? The basic response to that has been "who cares. leave." So keep your head down to survive, because not everyone is a NeoGAF style leftist who kneejerk hates you, and you might have reason to ask a question later on. Wonderful community sustaining and building sentiments to be the norm... And it is a joke to see people over the recent months and years argue that this hasn't been a major issue here as they continue to apply vicious BS labels denigrating people they disagree with.
The rot started from the head down.
Malka is very much like Harvey Weinstein. Someone who basically behaves like an incredibly petty vindictive asshole with delusions of grandeur. Someone who has little respect for anyone unless they conform to certain disingenuously applied convenient standards. Someone who abuses his position of authority, if you didn't want to lose access to your circle of friends within this community, you kept your head down and mouth shut, or you approved of and parroted back the officially approved positions. All bad behavior either openly approved of, because everyone else is either wrong or labeled as something that is socially unacceptable, rightly or wrongly, or bad behavior that is silently accepted, and through silence, tacitly approved of. If you brought up bad behavior or subject matter that involved criticism, you almost always could expect to be banned. Unless something was so obvious, like Amir0x literally editing other people's posts so he could win arguments, and even then, he wasn't permabanned. I guess I expected that to happened after Amir0x physically beat up his mother and was arrested and jailed for it and resisting arrest. But I guess bad behavior and shitty personalities are something to be ignored until they can't be any longer. Just spout leftist platitudes, label all opposition as "racists/bigots/homophobes/completely uninformed/misogynists/etc", crush all dissent, and hope people don't bother to actually hold you accountable for having a horrible personality or behavior, or being a pedophile or assaulter of women.
The ironic comeuppance for Evilore, the long-standing approving and blameworthy leadership, and the echo chamber aficionados, has been coming for years and is well-deserved. At least the decent people finally seem to have reason enough to seek shelter elsewhere. Eat and hang yourselves by your own hard shrill standards SJWs.
Always-honest
Banned
No. And yes, it once was a great forum with great people. But it was long gone even before past weekend.
#sorrynotsorry
Member
No. Not the way they were. But they could be as good in a different way.
All it takes is for quality posters to get together and produce that environment. GAF has no shortage of those, and even with some of them taking a stand and leaving, I think you'll find what's left is every bit as interesting and worthy of your time as what came before. It has to be. Because otherwise it's all gone and it's never coming back. You could follow to one of the spin-offs, but do those truly ever succeed? No. And nothing will change that. This is what we have. We must work to make it worthy of its legacy. And we can.
This is exactly right. It's a fucking shame it took what happened for NeoGAF for everyone of those Toxic parts of NeoGAF to finally understand it was them that contributed to OT being a cesspit of sycophants running around agreeing verbatim with everything or not saying anything.
What's worse is because of what happened they won't get the chance to read these kinds of posts and maybe understand/learn that their hostile way of browbeating everyone didn't endear them to anyone but the same people they were in agreement with while everyone just became bitter that there was an in-crowd that decided the narrative of the forum down to the letter.
Instead everyone's moving to discord and everyone putting their chips on ResetEra but no one learned anything from their NeoGAF experience. ResetEra is going to have the exact same problems as GAF if everyone walks away from this without realizing the situation with Off-Topic was untenable.
But that lesson won't be learned, and the knee-jerk painting of "Us versus Them" will continue, especially since everyone's going to be on high alert for trolls on the ResetEra place.
You had a very good discussion board with some flaws, including, but not limited to, 1) an overzealous moderation staff, 2) an unspoken bestowment of made poster status from the overzealous moderation staff to some prolific posters to where they could post with impunity, flaunting the understood rules of civility, and 3) the inflammatory, hostile, "if you're not in full agreement, you're with the enemy" false dilemma of discourse that stemmed from the first and the second
The remedy is to dial back the moderation a bit, moderate more evenly and equitably, and hope the first two reduce the hostility when there's no longer protection for poisoning discourse from the Correct Side.
The remedy isn't to overstate the problem in severity and scope, cite the problem in a deflection attempt, and shut down the board entirely.
An otherwise healthy person with higher than normal cholesterol just needs dietary adjustments, not a bullet to the head.
GET BETTER ROMAN.
The remedy is to dial back the moderation a bit, moderate more evenly and equitably, and hope the first two reduce the hostility when there's no longer protection for poisoning discourse from the Correct Side.
The remedy isn't to overstate the problem in severity and scope, cite the problem in a deflection attempt, and shut down the board entirely.
An otherwise healthy person with higher than normal cholesterol just needs dietary adjustments, not a bullet to the head.
GET BETTER ROMAN.
dolabla
Member
You really hit the nail on the head. Just an all around excellent post! This place allowed the irrational to run the place. Diversity was accepted, except diversity of thought.
This forum really has a chance to be more open minded now without all the dog piles from the irrational fringe since they are the ones who are abandoning ship.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Nah, some of us are actual adults and are aware of all sorts of shit that can go down between two people. And sorry, if her side of the story is correct, it's gross and crossing the line, and him being drunk isn't an excuse in my mind.
What's gross at the moment is his statement and actions after this happened. The victim blaming explanation is vile and borderline insane, and coming from someone who has a broad public history as a pathological narcissist and misogynist makes it rather difficult to buy his version of events. There were probably half a dozen better ways of handling this situation, the statement to his staff, and the statement to his community.
Several better posters than I have already laid this out so far in this thread.
And as I said earlier, I'm still disappointed this is the straw that broke the camel's back. A facebook he-said-she-said post is completely NOT the kind of thing that should be given credence off the bat, but his behavior over the years has been appalling and makes it easier to believe and I'm not sure why these same mods stuck around after seeing it then.
And to you folks up in here saying all these images of his posts are shops, some of us have been here long enough to see his tirades and outbursts first hand.
If someone calls you a racist/sexist/Nazi, maybe take a step back and think about why they're calling you that? And being called one of those terms sucks, but it isn't on the same level as being called an actual slur. You're sounding like one of those folks who scream "Well, you're the real racist for calling me a racist!"
I'm sure you've done great work in your personal life and I applaud you for it, but to blindly ignore all of the dog whistling that's going on right now is sad.
So you celebrate the decision to remove politics and social matters writ large from discussion on this forum?
prag16
Banned
When the person saying it isn't actually racist/sexist/homophobic, of course they're not gonna like those types of charges being leveled at them.
And let's be honest. Most of the time we wouldn't have reasoned explanations of why some might find certain statements 'problematic'. All too often it was more like "FUK U BURN IN HELL NAZI".
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Anita is not above criticism. You be critical of her by going for her arguments not her credibility. Your post is similar to the following:
"She didn't even play those games."
"High school essay."
"She took clips from other YouTubers."
You went after her credibility.
Do you get it yet?
Like, this doesn't even make you a bad person. I'm just trying to explain why you were banned and now you're super fucking defensive over it and calling out "censorious users".
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
When I talk with people I don't expect them to then insinuate that my parents are abusers. That's not being called out, that's being insulted.
Furthermore, why wouldn't I use my own personal experience? The point I was making was that there are degrees of physical punishment, that it is reductive to suggest everyone who so much as taps their child on the wrist is a child abuser and that not everyone who experiences these things turns out bad.
Discourse is a nuanced thing, which people like yourself just don't seem to understand. I don't mind if people don't agree with me, but GAF collectively seems to have a very hard time of discussing within that grey area. It's always black and white. Either the absolute best or absolute worst. No middle ground. It's tiring.
EvilLore your statement... man. I realize it's hard to be impartial when things are hot and heated and you are the person in the situation and there's a million people angry at you for all different reasons (some of which have no connection to any of this). But that statement is needlessly heightened and full of irrelevant details.
I saw some variants of alternative ways to handle this posted and they really just hit hard with how much better they would be.
You could simply be short and sweet and don't even bother adding anything:
Or if you must add context immediately, be respectful to all parties involves including yourself, the community, and the other person.
I saw some variants of alternative ways to handle this posted and they really just hit hard with how much better they would be.
You could simply be short and sweet and don't even bother adding anything:
Or if you must add context immediately, be respectful to all parties involves including yourself, the community, and the other person.
You wouldn't get banned for it though. And many moderate opinions are even hard to express here without escalation. Having grounded intelligent criticism could get you banned here if its criticism against anything deemed "untouchable" by a loud opposition that has a monopoly on the truth and is backed by the mods.
For people questioning why others request bans? Its an age old forum tradition (web forums in general not just gaf) to ask for one as a way to peace out for good. Whether it be on good or bad terms. An seeing as how there are no mods or no way to contact any (as I understand it?) its gotta be done publically now more then ever.
imo The real attention seekers here are those crying over their past bans. Ya ate a temporary or permaban? So what? You came back didn't you? Why're ya dwelling on getting banned from 1 of zillions of forums out there? Why do ya take every opportunity to bring it up? C'mon now! Something like thats not a scratch, but ya all carry it around like some kind of scar.
Oh an people all pumped up on "gaf should be for gaming only anyway, fuck the ot!" what is wrong with ya all? Why could I stick to the gaming side forum day & night while apparently none of you could? Was there somebody forcing ya to click on the OT tab? If so I hope you'll do something about that if ya haven't already! If not then again whats your problem? The two sides only ever crossed over when somebody would accidentally post a thread in one forum that was meant for another, or the super rare occasion in which an event/news was directly relevant to both sides. Maybe try talking about games instead of talking about wanting to talk about games. Else ya come off as nothin' but phonies an the type of peeps I wouldn't wanna see hanging around this community or any other.
btw, sticking purely to gaming talk may have been why I missed all this stuff so many peeps apparently knew about Evilore and Amirox for years(?). Firstly if the Amirox thing is for reals why the heck was he allowed ta continue posting here? Know what I and others in the area get in our mailboxes when a sex offender moves in nearby? A paper with name, photo, address, and list of offenses. If the administration was so hell bent on continuing to allow him to post, the least they coulda done is give people a headup via mass PMs!
As for the way Evilore may or may not treat women (but most likely does based on his own words) an the apparent unleashing of a tide of anti-women... heck anti-anything but "muh-gaems" which is happening here then maybe I'll just have ta pack it in an move on like so many other posters. Cause clearly the new gaf standard wouldn't want me around! An knowing their kind they'd strive to make my time here miserable! As Evilore should know by now, having a target on you sucks. Please don't try an pass the target directed at you onto myself and others.
Can't say cutting gaf outta my life wouldn't be a loss but as someone who's been reading/posting in multiple forums since forevers so I think I'll be OK. Apparently I average less then 2 posts a day so no one'd miss me nor the content(?) I bring in!
But for now thats all just a buncha ifs. I'm not gonna kneejerk instantly cut all ties like so many peeps have. I can take a couple minutes now an then ta see which way the winds blowin' an all that. An of course dig up and archive some posts of mine. Would be alot harder ta do that if I straight up left / took a ban!
btw to the mod(s?) still going: good on you for banning those specifically asking for it. Showing you're actually listening to the people is a good way to mod! But ya seem ta be focusing exclusively on them when there's a buncha totally awful posts & people popping up outta the blue. Ya'll can play the understaffed card for now but such blatantly obvious jerks aren't gonna be allowed around for the longterm, right? Each part of this mess deserves equal scrubbing.
Oh an shoutout to the woman who brought forth these charges against Evilore. She deserves help, not hate!
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202187781#post202187781
Well I found the zhugeex thing and even if its all mod BS, that still dun seem like the kind of person to have in charge. I said Evilore is a liability an ya know what? It applies to some (all?) of these people to. That other forum for banned/disgruntled gaf members sure didn't turn out well right? Starting a new one helmed by banned/disgruntled gaf members dun sound all that swell. People with baggage running the show's gonna require addressing such concerns like these if they wanna win people over for the longterm. But from the sound of it all its prolly not gonna matter to me. I'm not on twitbookcord so I'ma be left behind unless the site(?) being made is a traditional browser accessed forum.
imo The real attention seekers here are those crying over their past bans. Ya ate a temporary or permaban? So what? You came back didn't you? Why're ya dwelling on getting banned from 1 of zillions of forums out there? Why do ya take every opportunity to bring it up? C'mon now! Something like thats not a scratch, but ya all carry it around like some kind of scar.
Oh an people all pumped up on "gaf should be for gaming only anyway, fuck the ot!" what is wrong with ya all? Why could I stick to the gaming side forum day & night while apparently none of you could? Was there somebody forcing ya to click on the OT tab? If so I hope you'll do something about that if ya haven't already! If not then again whats your problem? The two sides only ever crossed over when somebody would accidentally post a thread in one forum that was meant for another, or the super rare occasion in which an event/news was directly relevant to both sides. Maybe try talking about games instead of talking about wanting to talk about games. Else ya come off as nothin' but phonies an the type of peeps I wouldn't wanna see hanging around this community or any other.
btw, sticking purely to gaming talk may have been why I missed all this stuff so many peeps apparently knew about Evilore and Amirox for years(?). Firstly if the Amirox thing is for reals why the heck was he allowed ta continue posting here? Know what I and others in the area get in our mailboxes when a sex offender moves in nearby? A paper with name, photo, address, and list of offenses. If the administration was so hell bent on continuing to allow him to post, the least they coulda done is give people a headup via mass PMs!
As for the way Evilore may or may not treat women (but most likely does based on his own words) an the apparent unleashing of a tide of anti-women... heck anti-anything but "muh-gaems" which is happening here then maybe I'll just have ta pack it in an move on like so many other posters. Cause clearly the new gaf standard wouldn't want me around! An knowing their kind they'd strive to make my time here miserable! As Evilore should know by now, having a target on you sucks. Please don't try an pass the target directed at you onto myself and others.
Can't say cutting gaf outta my life wouldn't be a loss but as someone who's been reading/posting in multiple forums since forevers so I think I'll be OK. Apparently I average less then 2 posts a day so no one'd miss me nor the content(?) I bring in!
But for now thats all just a buncha ifs. I'm not gonna kneejerk instantly cut all ties like so many peeps have. I can take a couple minutes now an then ta see which way the winds blowin' an all that. An of course dig up and archive some posts of mine. Would be alot harder ta do that if I straight up left / took a ban!
btw to the mod(s?) still going: good on you for banning those specifically asking for it. Showing you're actually listening to the people is a good way to mod! But ya seem ta be focusing exclusively on them when there's a buncha totally awful posts & people popping up outta the blue. Ya'll can play the understaffed card for now but such blatantly obvious jerks aren't gonna be allowed around for the longterm, right? Each part of this mess deserves equal scrubbing.
They're really, really awful. Not just for the people in 'em, but for friends & family of the people in 'em. Can't count how many times I've asked "why do ya keep going back to him?!". Some people eventually grow numb to it an fall into the trap of "its their life whatevs" which really stinks but I can't blame 'em for forming such an attitude. Nothing anyone says or does stops 'em from eventually getting back together over an over again. People close to 'em can't help for reals. Only some kind of "relationship detox" could hope to do the job but that requires effort and money and therapy.
Oh an shoutout to the woman who brought forth these charges against Evilore. She deserves help, not hate!
Nopes! Gamefaqs is the secret best place to chat about individual games cause they got a forum for just about every game ever made! Try not lumping everyone/thing together under one banner.
Dunno the story about them but weren't some of them kicked off/banned from gaf for some reason or another?
http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=202187781#post202187781
Well I found the zhugeex thing and even if its all mod BS, that still dun seem like the kind of person to have in charge. I said Evilore is a liability an ya know what? It applies to some (all?) of these people to. That other forum for banned/disgruntled gaf members sure didn't turn out well right? Starting a new one helmed by banned/disgruntled gaf members dun sound all that swell. People with baggage running the show's gonna require addressing such concerns like these if they wanna win people over for the longterm. But from the sound of it all its prolly not gonna matter to me. I'm not on twitbookcord so I'ma be left behind unless the site(?) being made is a traditional browser accessed forum.
Heck I know I sure as heck didn't get compensation or even recognition for the what... 2 or 3 OTs I made? Heck one of my next ones was gonna be for a fan translated game. I'm not so sure devs/pubs would've showered me with cash for that!
psychowave
Member
No, you would just get called a feminazi bitch and get rape threats. Much better than being banned for a couple of weeks.
Reminder:
Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!
"Allegedly"
Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM
Also:
Clockwork5
Member
Are you sure you are ok?
I got banned once for pointing out that a moderator just heavily insulted millions of Americans (all Trump voters). I'm European and never even had a dog in the race.
I also got banned when I argued that not all the people that celebrate with Zwarte Piet, especially the children, are racist scum that deserve to be hated (I'm not Dutch). I also still have a screenshot of the ban message which read: "sorry the blacks ruined your good times". Like, what did that even mean? Pretty sure there were also countless insults thrown against me.
encephalon
Member
You engaged in "whataboutism." People bring up violence in games when they want to shut down discussion on sexual content. It's a separate discussion.
TTOOLL
Member
I don't know what made GAF the heaven of internet, or at least what made a lot of users and most mods think it was.
It was like a bunch of perfect people judging the flawed ones. Guess what, EVERYONE is flawed someway. Who are we to judge others all the time?
Everybody has done something wrong at some point in their lives, nobody is immaculate, fucking nobody, just deal with it.
I don't give a shit about what made the forum fall apart, it's not really my business or anybody else's. However, you see people acting like what happened would change an inch in their lives. It won't.
I repeat myself. I'm glad the tribunal is gone.
It was like a bunch of perfect people judging the flawed ones. Guess what, EVERYONE is flawed someway. Who are we to judge others all the time?
Everybody has done something wrong at some point in their lives, nobody is immaculate, fucking nobody, just deal with it.
I don't give a shit about what made the forum fall apart, it's not really my business or anybody else's. However, you see people acting like what happened would change an inch in their lives. It won't.
I repeat myself. I'm glad the tribunal is gone.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
And this is the exact problem I'm speaking about.
Nope, it's exactly what everyone said, you're just refusing to understand this was all you.
I mean tell me what racist or bigoted thing I said when I told people "Can we stop talking about Bannon looking like shit in this interview? It's getting really old and I wanna discuss the stupid shit he said in the interview but everyone's just replying to his appearance," Tell me what bigoted or racist thing it was to say when I said "Hillary's political adverts are horrible" when it was clear they were? What bigoted or racist thing was said when I said "I support Bernie Sanders in the primaries?
No Spatula, it's pretty clear there was a narrative of "You disagree with me, fuck you I'm going to paint you as a nazi" over everything. Yet instead of owning up you're picking a HIll to die on. Again. Is it really so hard to admit you were wrong? That you fucked up? It's pretty clear the big problem on NeoGAF is that everyone refuses to just back down when it is clear they were wrong. A problem that extends to the top, it's crystal clear this is what's happening. Yet, no one is bothering to learn this.
Shake Appeal
Member
"Some NeoGAF mod banned me for saying something I still don't realize was noxious this one time. SJW hivemind. Why can't we all just agree to disagree sometimes? The environment here made me afraid to say ignorant or hurtful things."
Shut the fuck up.
NeoGAF was a privately owned message board that briefly had a pretty cool, pretty tenuous culture that depended on a lot of active moderation by good people working to preserve that culture and give space to a lot of underrepresented folks in videogames—who were justifiably sick of what gaming (and political!) discussion looks like in just about every other place on the Internet.
You have no special right to voice your opinion on a privately owned board, and if the mods found you problematic and tossed you for being a hateful or willfully obtuse jerk, that was ♪ their ♩ prerogative ♪♬♩.
You could have taken those opportunities to examine your thinking and adjust your behavior. No surprise, most of the twerpy gaming Internet opts for door number 3: whining on Twitter about being "silenced" by "very extreme leftists" and joining active communities of hate on 4chan/reddit. Now we get a good look at what NeoGAF would be without working moderation—and with an explicit push by its idiot owner to suppress political discussions (which is the same thing as defending the status quo; there are no apolitical positions). Enjoy having one more venue where it's okay to daub shit on the walls and drink your own rancid piss. I'm sorry the cliquey php game board made you feel bad about yourself for a half-second there.
P.S. Tyler Malka, you've always been known as a bloviating idiot. Now it's even clearer that you're a creep. You should have sold this place while you had a chance, you rapey hobbit. Enjoy this incident being the first thing every employer—and every woman—will see in any Google search of your name for all time.
Shut the fuck up.
NeoGAF was a privately owned message board that briefly had a pretty cool, pretty tenuous culture that depended on a lot of active moderation by good people working to preserve that culture and give space to a lot of underrepresented folks in videogames—who were justifiably sick of what gaming (and political!) discussion looks like in just about every other place on the Internet.
You have no special right to voice your opinion on a privately owned board, and if the mods found you problematic and tossed you for being a hateful or willfully obtuse jerk, that was ♪ their ♩ prerogative ♪♬♩.
You could have taken those opportunities to examine your thinking and adjust your behavior. No surprise, most of the twerpy gaming Internet opts for door number 3: whining on Twitter about being "silenced" by "very extreme leftists" and joining active communities of hate on 4chan/reddit. Now we get a good look at what NeoGAF would be without working moderation—and with an explicit push by its idiot owner to suppress political discussions (which is the same thing as defending the status quo; there are no apolitical positions). Enjoy having one more venue where it's okay to daub shit on the walls and drink your own rancid piss. I'm sorry the cliquey php game board made you feel bad about yourself for a half-second there.
P.S. Tyler Malka, you've always been known as a bloviating idiot. Now it's even clearer that you're a creep. You should have sold this place while you had a chance, you rapey hobbit. Enjoy this incident being the first thing every employer—and every woman—will see in any Google search of your name for all time.
I disagree that it's a separate discussion, but there's no point in debating that here.
Raptomex
Member
The state of NeoGAF for the next month or more is going to be people drive-by shitposting because they feel it accomplishes something towards a greater good. They can't just not sign in. They MUST be banned or have their account deleted. That's what's more baffling. You don't like it here, don't visit. It's really not hard.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Then don't participate in threads where people might believe based on studies that physical punishment is abuse. Your personal anecdotes aren't going to change how the scientific community feels about spanking or in general hitting your child.
Personal experience is touchy because it means you're trying to be an authority based on your experiences and thus it automatically lowers anyone else's: you become biased. It's like when someone posts up stats of police brutality and someone comes in and says, "I never got pulled over by the cops." It's not helpful.
Do you get it? Like, I'm not even try to be antagonistic, I'm just trying to show you where you may have went that caused a ban. You don't even have to believe me but this was the etiquette and everyone knew about it because mods would tell you to behave if you went outta line or the community would let you know.
Bloodporne
Member
Holy jesus tapdancing fucking Christ...just wanted to continue posting about how much fun I'm having with The Evil Within again and wonder why everything was tumble weeds.
Clicked the main page and this gif has never, ever, ever been more appropriate:
This is way too much information to wade through during a casual videogame distraction post at work.
Clicked the main page and this gif has never, ever, ever been more appropriate:
This is way too much information to wade through during a casual videogame distraction post at work.
Yes, we should be more understanding of those kinds of posts. I know, I know.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
You just argued in favor of Zwarte Piet.
Like, do you even understand what you're doing at this point?
RastaMentality
Banned
not racist/sexist/homophobic according to whom? the person who posted it? they only did so because they thought it was ok.
Or maybe they want to express their frustration towards a place where they spent time and made friends being torn to pieces by its administration.
The porn threads are inappropriate but if someone wants to suicide in an appropriate manner go for it.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
This man get's it.
This man doesn't.
You are one of the worst posters on the board. People like you are why GAF lost respect throughout the internet.
You don't even have understand the fact the reason the board went up in flames is precisely because of people like you. Your holier-than-thou attitude is exactly why people were so willing to toss GAF in the incinerator the first chance that Evilore fucked up again.
If you had a shred of decency and insight you'd understand that this wasn't about taking down Evilore.. it was about taking down the people like you.
Go join your other little safe haven forum and be done with it already.
dolabla
Member
It's like they don't have any self awareness. How the fuck they come to these conclusions that people are just waiting to to say racist, bigoted, etc things is always just mind blowing to me.
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