It's sickening people are showing their true color

Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

Aaah yes.. gay conversion therapy. Can you find one legit psychologist who thinks it works?
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay.

All people who claim to be "ex-gays" are lying. They turn away from their true sexuality and either become celibate or they get into a marriage with barely any sex. Closeted people are still common. They will lie to themselves and others so that they fit in. When people are still killed in some areas of the world for being gay, doesn't it make sense for some people to be so scared about fitting in, that they lie to themselves and create a fake life, just so that they aren't killed or ostracized?

Your sexuality doesn't change from gay to bi to straight to pan to bi to gay etc etc, or at least it doesn't radically change in that sense. Since I'm not bisexual or pan or whatever, I can't say for sure, but I've never heard of someone claiming that they go through phases of being gay then straight unless they have Borderline Personality Disorder. It's not a choice.

It's just funny to me how some people don't think about it for a few seconds: if being gay is truly a choice, why in the world would anyone WANT to be harassed/ostracized/threatened/physically harmed/killed? It makes no damn sense. People come out and it's such a big deal to them for this reason alone. It's hard. Because there's still so many people who think it's a choice and they hate or look down on these people for it.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.
Fuck you.
 
I never said that he hates gays. I pointed out how he stated doesn't accept the gay "lifestyle," when in reality it's not something someone can accept or deny. It just is. Being gay is not a choice. Now, I'm not saying he should go watch gay flicks or go to gay bars with his brother or whatever. But the fact that he says that he doesn't ACCEPT that means that he doesn't understand homosexuality.

And no problem. I won't allow people like you to make me feel bad for not tolerating ignorance.

I'm not going to speak for him, but the whole post was explaining that his beliefs are not what defines him. Why does it bother anyone what he believes in as long as he is respectful to others, which he stated he is.

I cannot understand what it's like being a homosexual in this world, but I do know that my friend who is a born again Christian doesn't agree with how I live my life, does she judge me for it? No, is she a good friend, very much so. I don't agree with her lifestyle that doesn't make me ignorant.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

Hehe. Your account not being immediately nuked really demonstrates what this place has turned into.
 
You can't be serious. The heavy dog pile attacks on any conservative opinion or middle of the road opinion easily shows that GAF was very heavy left and Ultra liberal. Outright being called a racist if you voted anyone other than Clinton, etc. It was fucking terrible. Glad to see that shit gone.

Don't expect "Reset era" to be a forum where you can praise Trump all day. ;-)
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

LOL!!!

Can you turn gay? That's your answer about gays turning straight. You spew nonsense.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

#nuGAF in a nutshell.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

This homophobic shit is really gross.
 
Hehe. Your account not being immediately nuked really demonstrates what this place has turned into.

Yeah great... only because he has a shitty opinion doesn't mean he's not allowed to express it. No one should get banned for believing in bullshit, even if it's offensive to you, as long as it's not expressed in an overtly hateful way.
We should rather learn from these opinions and focus on eradicating these thoughts by relentless education, not censorship.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

So this is it.. Welcome to new and improved NeoGAF!
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

This is some of the stupidest shit I've read today. Being gay is not a choice. The existence of gay conversion therapy and devout people being willing to force themselves back into the closet doesn't change that.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.
ugh..
 
Yeah great... only because he has a shitty opinion doesn't mean he's not allowed to express it. No one should get banned for believing in bullshit, even if it's offensive to you, as long as it's not expressed in an overtly hateful way.
We should rather learn from these opinions and focus on eradicating these thoughts by relentless education, not censorship.

Yes, clearly unreasearched opinions will be treated as such. The old GAF logic of "I don't like their opinion, insult and ban them" needs to go.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

What the fuck am I reading? I'm going to be sick, please tell me this isn't a sign of things to come.
 
I'm not going to speak for him, but the whole post was explaining that his beliefs are not what defines him. Why does it bother anyone what he believes in as long as he is respectful to others, which he stated he is.

I cannot understand what it's like being a homosexual in this world, but I do know that my friend who is a born again Christian doesn't agree with how I live my life, does she judge me for it? No, is she a good friend, very much so. I don't agree with her lifestyle that doesn't make me ignorant.

How are you not understanding that it's wrong? It's wrong for him to not accept it because it is not a choice. Your friend made a choice to be a born-again Christian. That guy's brother did not have a choice in being gay. The only choice he made was choosing to attempt living a normal life just like everybody else. That is not something someone should have the "right" to accept or not accept. Stop enabling homophobia/ignorance towards homosexuality.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

#Nugaf lol
 
Jesus fucking Christ, this place is going to be unbearable.

It's attitudes like yours that will make this place unbearable and are what is partially responsible for GAF having a reputation for being an eco-chamber for outrage culture.

If you don't agree with the poster above you, discuss and debate, don't just drop some swear words and a one line retort.

I never said that he hates gays. I pointed out how he stated doesn't accept the gay "lifestyle," when in reality it's not something someone can accept or deny. It just is. Being gay is not a choice. Now, I'm not saying he should go watch gay flicks or go to gay bars with his brother or whatever. But the fact that he says that he doesn't ACCEPT that means that he doesn't understand homosexuality.

And no problem. I won't allow people like you to make me feel bad for not tolerating ignorance.

If the person you're referring to is religious, their acceptance of gay "lifestyle" may be referring to the act of intercourse. I didn't understand the position either as I'm not religious but my father is devoutly catholic so I asked him one day. He told me the Catholic church accepts homosexuality but they don't accept the act of intercourse in such a relationship. So essentially, if you're homosexual but remain celibate, they're accepting.
 
I no longer hold these views. They came from a place of ignorance. Apologies to anyone who was hurt or offended by these posts.
 
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Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

Go fuck yourself you bigoted piece of shit
 
What the fuck am I reading? I'm going to be sick, please tell me this isn't a sign of things to come.

It is. This is the new GAF. These people were always here but kept their views hidden for the sake of keeping their account active(because they knew their vile views were intolerated), but, when the site admin behaves the way he does, it's enabled these people to come out from the wood work and show their true faces.
 
Yeah great... only because he has a shitty opinion doesn't mean he's not allowed to express it. No one should get banned for believing in bullshit, even if it's offensive to you, as long as it's not expressed in an overtly hateful way.
We should rather learn from these opinions and focus on eradicating these thoughts by relentless education, not censorship.

Yes, clearly unreasearched opinions will be treated as such. The old GAF logic of "I don't like their opinion, insult and ban them" needs to go.

Both of you VERY fast in defending him, and unbearably slow in "educating" him.

Still waiting.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

No one becomes gay or straight, those individuals are surrounded by homophobic relatives and friends, which is why they felt the need to "become" straight. I hope one day you will be able to realise that.
 
Hehe. Your account not being immediately nuked really demonstrates what this place has turned into.
Have not followed the discussion but i don't see reason for Ban yet, only based on that post.
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.
You are right sexuality is a spectrum and people fall in one place or another, but its complicated.

The reason what you say is problematic its because many, many times people use that excuse to tell you its NOT ok to be Gay, and that it was/its your choice, justifying their own homophobia. not uncommon at all.

Also people abandoning the "community" (as if they were Gay because a community) don't become Straight just because they found the word of God, many of them simply chose to control their urges in an effort to fit in, with varying results.its all because straight people don't accept Homosexuality comes naturally and its nasty (except Lesbians they are hot)
 
Any update on ResetEra? How do you get invited?

it should be live later today. You do not need to get invited, the registrations will be open for everyone on the same day. The invites were only for the first wave of registrations which should only last like an hour or two so everyone will be able to get in when its live. :)
 
What kind of people do you think are willing to stick around and support the current admin?

People that say stuff like that.

No, it's how things already are.

It is. This is the new GAF. These people were always here but kept their views hidden for the sake of keeping their account active(because they knew their vile views were intolerated), but, when the site admin behaves the way he does, it's enabled these people to come out from the wood work and show their true faces.

I want GAF to survive because I love this community, but if this is the new normal around here then maybe it is already dead. I have nowhere else to go and just want to cry right now. Fuck everything.
 
How are you not understanding that it's wrong? It's wrong for him to not accept it because it is not a choice. Your friend made a choice to be a born-again Christian. That guy's brother did not have a choice in being gay. The only choice he made was choosing to attempt living a normal life just like everybody else. That is not something someone should have the "right" to accept or not accept. Stop enabling homophobia/ignorance towards homosexuality.

Because it's not wrong to him. It's wrong to you. I believe gay people should do whatever the hell they want, they are people after all just like all us straighties. People can marry a cat for all I believe in.

What you are upset about is that he disapproves of gay people getting married, probably because of religious beliefs. But his brother is gay, he has no ill will, nor does it seem that he goes out of his way to preach. Maybe he is just "old fashioned". Gay marriage is in its infancy and year by year is becoming more widely understood.

But to verbally attack someone who isn't there just yet because their entire upbringing doesn't fall in line with yours?
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

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Because it's not wrong to him. It's wrong to you. I believe gay people should do whatever the hell they want, they are people after all just like all us straighties. People can marry a cat for all I believe in.

What you are upset about is that he disapproves of gay people getting married, probably because of religious beliefs. But his brother is gay, he has no ill will, nor does it seem that he goes out of his way to preach. Maybe he is just "old fashioned". Gay marriage is in its infancy and year by year is becoming more widely understood.

But to verbally attack someone who isn't there just yet because their entire upbringing doesn't fall in line with yours?

oh booo hooo.
 
Both of you VERY fast in defending him, and unbearably slow in "educating" him.

Still waiting.

I'm not here to "educate", I'm here to have a conversation. My current conversation thread does not include speaking to someone who believes in the word of god/that you can stop being gay.

Why should I entertain that idea, because you said I should? Quit trying to bait.
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

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#NUGAF
 
it should be live later today. You do not need to get invited, the registrations will be open for everyone on the same day. The invites were only for the first wave of registrations which should only last like an hour or two so everyone will be able to get in when its live. :)

Thanks!
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.
What’s wrong with them being gay?
 
Well I don’t know. There’s many testimonies of ex-gays and those who turned from the community and “became” straight. A lot of people say it’s a spectrum where there’s no totally straight/gay/whatever so it makes sense. There’s people in my life that I know/have heard of who turned to Hod and are no longer gay. For me, I’m more reliant on that old book and their testimonies.

As much as i don't like those resist ponies, this is the other end of the spectrum.

Ever heard of Resetera? You should pay a visit, they will love you.
 
I don't think it's going to fracture. Call me naive, but I believe NeoGAF isn't going anywhere.

Like really, this page alone has more individual users shunning the bullshit than the bullshitter. These people must remain and shit on these dudes if they want to keep the feel of the community they so love. You can't just leave it to the wolves
 
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