The state of NeoGAF

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Yeah, this. I was definitely unaware of this. I think it's mainly because I never see GAF being brought up anywhere outside of GAF. To look for the hate, you kind of have to seek it out on other sites.

Yeah i learned how much some people hated this site by looking at comments in other places after what happened
 
******** starting out by banning talk of Neogaf is not promising.

How so? What good would it do? People on GAF would just complain about people complaing about GAF there.

Not to mention, GAF is banning discussion of ERA much worse, considering they are preventing people from sharing discord invites in PMs and outright censor the name of the website.

In ERA you can actually make a thread where the source is a GAF post. What if a ERA post is the source for some new leaks and people want to post it on GAF? Then it's automatically censored to ********
 
So by making moderation even more murky overall and instituting even more draconian rules on content they're opening things up? Again, the site was shut down and half of it closed down because of the in real issues and poor response of the owner followed by a myriad of changes, bans and thread closings, none of which had anything to do with him or his personal problems. Why am I expecting things to get better after a stunt like that?

There is only 1/4 that's not visible at the moment though.

As for the rest, we will see. That's really all we can do for now.
 
There is only 1/4 that's not visible at the moment though.

As for the rest, we will see. That's really all we can do for now.

Yeah today its like that. As I said, I've little trust of the moderation now and much less than ever considering what just went down days ago.
 
How so? What good would it do? People on GAF would just complain about people complaing about GAF there.

Not to mention, GAF is banning discussion of ERA much worse, considering they are preventing people from sharing discord invites in PMs and outright censor the name of the website.

In ERA you can actually make a thread where the source is a GAF post. What if a ERA post is the source for some new leaks and people want to post it on GAF? Then it's automatically censored to ********

Because ERA was made to steal gaf members
 
Hopefully the new mods aren't as sensitive. I think with the old posters gone it has given rise to Juniors not being afraid to post as much, I lurked and never posted outside of gaming because I didn't wan't to lose my account over something petty/taken out of context.
In lieu of the controversy, the mods gave themselves more anonymity (and by virtue, less transparency) and have continued to censor links to gaming communities that have splintered from GAF. It's business as usual, and if EviLore were reading this thread, which he probably isn't because he hasn't shown much interest in community feedback before and with the statement in OP he's definitely still in a bubble of his own beliefs, he'd probably tell you like always, there's other places on the internet.
 
invite only? really? using a false sense of exclusivity as a catalyst to create a demand for access.

Invite only is to make sure people from the discord communities get in first to stress test + making sure it wont be swamped by 4chan/voat in the early days

Open reg is gonna be up afterwards

Because ERA was made to steal gaf members
nah. The people who left for the site were gonna head to other alternatives like Waypoint, Giant bomb etc
 
How so? What good would it do? People on GAF would just complain about people complaing about GAF there.

Not to mention, GAF is banning discussion of ERA much worse, considering they are preventing people from sharing discord invites in PMs and outright censor the name of the website.

In ERA you can actually make a thread where the source is a GAF post. What if a ERA post is the source for some new leaks and people want to post it on GAF? Then it's automatically censored to ********
I'm not defending Gaf. Reset Era was created for a reason, and tip-toeing around discussion of that is a bad way to go. The forum needs a mega thread so that they can talk about Gaf, it's something that needs to be discussed.
 
I'm not defending Gaf. Reset Era was created for a reason, and tip-toeing around discussion of that is a bad way to go. The forum needs a mega thread so that they can talk about Gaf, it's something that needs to be discussed.

GAF has been discussed to death in the Discord for the last few days.
It's old news
 
Again why am I expected to trust someone after such a stunt? Its not even a matter of whether EviLore did or not but how he responded in quite possibly the worst way possible outside of just closing the thing down forever and deleting everything before flying the coup.

I don't know, but I imagine having a presumably large portion of the userbase vanish overnight could be what was required for them to start taking feedback on board more seriously.

If that happened to me I'd want to make sure any remaining and future users were satisfied before they're also led away to competing sites.

Maybe things will just carry on as they did before. But I think it's worth a try. I don't think anybody thought NeoGAF was perfect but not even being free to express that wasn't helpful for anyone.
 
invite only? really? using a false sense of exclusivity as a catalyst to create a demand for access.

I hate to blow a hole in your theory but it's probably to keep from getting brigaded.

Why? Its almost exlusively gaf members joining that site. I can understand why Evilore banned it

It's just weird to characterize it as "stealing members" when it's former members who basically decided to will it into existence.
 
Yeah today its like that. As I said, I've little trust of the moderation now and much less than ever considering what just went down days ago.

We are all in the same boat, but I would have used "earlier" instead of "days ago". I will just wait until they finally got their statement together and present it and then go from there.
 
How so? What good would it do? People on GAF would just complain about people complaing about GAF there.

Not to mention, GAF is banning discussion of ERA much worse, considering they are preventing people from sharing discord invites in PMs and outright censor the name of the website.

In ERA you can actually make a thread where the source is a GAF post. What if a ERA post is the source for some new leaks and people want to post it on GAF? Then it's automatically censored to ********

Were you seriously expecting forum created by echo chamber brigade from old Neogaf to not behave exactly the same way they did when they were mods and admins here?
 
Were you seriously expecting forum created by echo chamber brigade from old Neogaf to not behave exactly the same way they did when they were mods and admins here?

A post complaining about echo chambers as a new echo chamber is being set up around them. Peak irony.
 
In lieu of the controversy, the mods gave themselves more anonymity (and by virtue, less transparency) and have continued to censor links to gaming communities that have splintered from GAF. It's business as usual, and if EviLore were reading this thread, which he probably isn't because he hasn't shown much interest in community feedback before and with the statement in OP he's definitely still in a bubble of his own beliefs, he'd probably tell you like always, there's other places on the internet.

Yeah, history hasn't exactly filled many with faith, but with the other forum being opened today, there is more of a threat now than there ever has been before. I was going to say now there is healthy competition in the forum space, but I don't know if healthy would be the right word!
 
People are still calling for Evilore to step down but I'm still not sure if that's a good idea.

In a twist of irony, I'm reminded of Nintendo and the Iwata years. Not saying the situation is 1:1, but I'm reminded of the talk of Iwata stepping down or Nintendo as a whole going third party.

Despite how much he [Iwata] screwed up, any drastic change in how Nintendo always operates would prove disastrous. Especially in the game industry where you're replacing a man who isn't a corporate suit but a gamer whereas the replacement would be someone who only sees the money.

I think Evilore turning down the million dollar offer for the site reflects that. He wants to see the site thrive at all costs. Had he given up ownership, whoever would be in charge during a disaster would either kill the site or make the user experience even worse, like placing ads in every post or desperately seeking out sponsors.

I like that trusted leadership that has existed all these years. Even in spite of all the accusations and problems. If Evilore is gone, there is no guarantee whoever takes over understands the culture of the site and would prefer to monetize the hell out of it until it's a dried up cow.
 
Were you seriously expecting forum created by echo chamber brigade from old Neogaf to not behave exactly the same way they did when they were mods and admins here?

Considering none of the mods and admins there were mods or admins on GAF, that's a very interesting statement.
 
Could I get an invite as well (though I never was very active in here, so I understand if I have to wait for things to calm down)?
 
GAF has 195 000 members. I'm sure it will be fine lol...

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