Captain Zyrain
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It was banned!
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Wheeljack539
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Rabid Dwarf 76
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I got banned for a week not too long ago in a thread about Lindsay Shepherd. Apparently I was "Downplaying intolerance + bigotry" for replying to someone's comment with a "+1". He got permanently banned for what I thought was reasonable statement.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/li...-unemployable-in-academia.48805/#post-9185486
https://www.resetera.com/threads/li...-unemployable-in-academia.48805/#post-9185486
Captain Zyrain
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How dare you present a conflicting opinion +1! That kind of nazi talk is outrageous.. 
dolabla
Member
I just saw this.The guys who run that site just posted this about Resets numbers/traffic:
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Mochilador
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Nice insights. Where did you get this?
dolabla
Member
It was posted over at kiwifarms.
Mochilador
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Thank you, but please, dont compliment me
This was a post long time brewing and i finally had the time (and dedication) to articulate this properly without taking too harsh of a stab at Ket.In my eyes her second post is kind of silly, taking a very recent example (Likely the one that came up first) and then use that as an example of how bad this entire community is. This, unsurprisingly, fits in the pattern observed in that lengthy post on The Names and the little helpers. Even with proper context right in front of them, the end result is a unison ''fuck Kiwi/GG/Alt-right''.
This is why, when making that post, i specifically highlighted that i am only talking about a portion of ERA, and not ERA as a whole. Yes, i criticize often, but it is (mostly) directed towards The Names and The Little Helpers. There are great folk on ERA, people who have helped others getting life saving surgeries they couldn't afford elsewhere. That community effort is awesome. As are the lengthy detailed threads on game technology or certain game experiences.
ERA harvests some amazing people out there, and yes, even Ketkat is one of them when it comes to her activity in the Mental Health ERA thread. As much as i disagree with how she approaches posts (As is evident by that lengthy post before this one), she seems to have a near endless supply of patience on those that really struggle with mental issues. Her own experiences help her aswell to make a correct and friendly assessment.
I have written on ERA before that i am not capable of harvesting that kind of patience on a near daily basis. Ill quickly take these people's situations too personal, so i usually tried to limit myself to one person only.
That is not entirely true, i do think that they support their community in their own way. But what i find problematic is well, what i described earlier. But i dont think their line of thinking/reasoning is in line with the trans community as a whole. Else well, it would lead to the questions i asked earlier
+1 by itself isnt really a meaningful statement, more like an like as a post. So it doesnt really add much to the discussion but to show support.
Looking at the original post, there seems to be more going on with Lindsay than ''She did not do anything wrong'' which is the part of the post that could be interpreted as strange given the subject. If Lindsay did do nothing wrong, she wouldn't be in the news, no?
That being said, a permban seems severe. I dont know about Lindsay, so i dont know if she is a controversial figure, but even so a permban and a ban for that seems a bit much. If Lindsay is commonly known as controversial by most sources, then such a post would be at best a warning. I rather would opt to ask why such a user thinks what he thinks but that's just me.
But coming back at your post, +1 is not exactly meaningful. I wouldn't warn it, but its a post of very little substance.
Literally its short for transgender, but over time it has gotten a negative intonation - Much like ''troon'' and much like how ''Downie'' is a derogatory term for people with Down Syndrome or mentally handicapped people in general.
Hah! That sounds like a DMCA styled takedown request. Is ResetERA's name trademarked? (I remember it was). Even so, the site made it rather clearly known that they aren't associated with ResetERA but just the URL name was apparently enough to issue that takedown.
Or, playing Devil's Advocate: The staff at ERA noticed that more and more people are checking out how The Names run the place and aren't too fond of all that negative traffic or that people know about their policies of official rules and their unofficial rulesbook. If that's the case, then perhaps they should be more transparent about their policies and allow a discussion on policy and moderation to exist. You could make a seperate sub-forum dedicated to this, only accessible to staff with a few members (in good standing) posting in there and everyone else can atleast watch along.
This has been an idea ushered before on ERA but its just only one of the ideas you could discuss in a thread. That is, if said thread does not get locked away instantly because ''If you have concerns about the moderation, contact us via PM.''...
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Some additional info regarding the ERA banbot being taken down by ERA. I remembered correctly, it was trademarked. Credits go to Crunklord420. Direct links arent given and names are obmitted for privacy and safety reasons. This is solely to provide as additional information. If the Crunklord response is not within boundaries, let me know, because i did glance over the OP after posting because i was doubting myself here.
Direct from Resetera Inc:
Rather amusing response by Crunklord:
Direct from Resetera Inc:
Github's messaging:
(Name obmitted by me - Red)
Rather amusing response by Crunklord:
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Mochilador
Member
That's the best part lmao.
Glad to have the ban aggregator back!
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I reckon it is ''tarnishing'' because it literally combines all kinds of bans given and presents them as a long list, including numerous archival links. Even when no commentary or additionals of some sort is provided, and you could argue that its just for informational purposes, you could easily as argue that the intent is on damaging the site, despite that what is posted is public knowledge.
The crux in regards to intent lies in the listing part and the archival options part. Because that could be interpreted as tarnishing imo. I am no lawyer, but i can see why it is said. Ofcourse, it is quite reaching to go for that statement, because its rather symptomatic in nature: The real issue is ofcourse that such odd bans (and apparently so many of them) exist in the first place.
So that to me sounds like the LLC (Is Cerium not the owner of that or were it multiple people?) is taking action against a symptom caused by (some of) the staff, instead of actioning the root of the issue.
Tornado Condor
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/if...e-bitch-said-you-have-such-exotic-____.53378/
Ah yes, calling white women stupid white bitches is not a bannable offense in this shit hole. Either there aren't any white users there or all the ones there are a bunch of betas.
Ah yes, calling white women stupid white bitches is not a bannable offense in this shit hole. Either there aren't any white users there or all the ones there are a bunch of betas.
That's despicable and proof (if it were needed) that people who aren't white are capable of having racist views (I say this as someone who isn't white).
It seems they have been banned for three days. Had their rant been against someone who wasn't white, I'm sure the ban would have been permanent.
Corrik
Member
3 day ban.
Tornado Condor
Member
The person got the ban much later after the thread was locked. The mods probably felt pressured to ban him.
And the most racist people I've met have been minorities. They should not get a pass for not being white.
Yeah, I'm of the view that racism is racism regardless of the skin colour of the person with racist views.
I don't buy into the idea that real racism can only come from white people because of white dominance, privilege etc.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
Phoenix RISING
Banned
You're one of those "minorities are the real racists" types.
Prepare for fukkery yall.
Tornado Condor
Member
I'm a minority tho. Born and raised in a foreign country
Phoenix RISING
Banned
So was Tia Tequila.
Corrik
Member
Are you arguing that just because you are not white you cannot be racist?
Papa
Banned
Why are you playing the collective group identity game? Some individuals who are in a minority group can be racist, yes.
Papa
Banned
I don't know Era seems to be doing fine going off thread and post numbers
like here the reveal trailer thread for RE2 Remake was 7 pages
Era's was 76
You're looking at where it currently is rather than where it's heading. The culture at Resetera is in no way sustainable. That place will destroy itself, whether through scandal or general attrition.
Adry9
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Lets check again in 6 months, or a year. In the long term Era is on its path to becoming the biggest echo chamber in gaming and it'll fall by its own weight.I don't know Era seems to be doing fine going off thread and post numbers
like here the reveal trailer thread for RE2 Remake was 7 pages
Era's was 76
Red Mage
Member
I don't know Era seems to be doing fine going off thread and post numbers
like here the reveal trailer thread for RE2 Remake was 7 pages
Era's was 76
From the kiwifarms thread on ResetEra:
* While they've maintained some pretty steady userbasing and traffic, this is a mere shred of the traffic they had when ResetERA got started. At current, the site's traffic and income is about one quarter what it was in October 2017. The actual consistent traffic fluctuates, but generally is about 20-40% of that number. As of July 4th, 2018, they have fewer hits per page than they ever have.
* Alexa shows some surprisingly positive results for them, but solely because they've only really been audited once, about three months ago, long after the free-fall plummet from October of 2017, and as such it looks like a straight line with the usual minor fluctuations until recently.
* Critically, Alexa's date shows that they bleed about 1500 users a month, presumably divided between banhammer recipients, dead accounts getting removed from the calculations, and so on. The account fluctuation seems to be coming from how well they're able to offset the bleed or not at the end of a given month.
* Fittingly, the site's reach is in a free-fall plummet and is currently in the midst of an all-time low.
* This is despite a significant increase in ranking in search results due to them being piped by friendly sites (Siliconera, Destructoid, Kotaku, etc). Over 70% of the traffic to ResetEra is via such piping (direct links on other sites), with Social Media accounting for less than 7% of its traffic and affiliate links barely over 2%. Somehow this has resulted in there being substantially more pageviews, but less pageviews per user. Predictably the time range for users on the site is also fucking awful.
Conclusions: ResetEra isn't doing so well. It's been having increasingly shrinking reach despite considerably improved traffic to the site, and that has a lot to do with its insane moderator staff chasing off anyone who dares show critical thought or an understanding of causality. Basically every other gaming site is doing better, with even NeoGAF doing better despite dramatically slashed numbers.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
I don't know Era seems to be doing fine going off thread and post numbers
like here the reveal trailer thread for RE2 Remake was 7 pages
Era's was 76
I don't think ERA is doing bad in regards to posting volume. I just didn't like posting there myself because the environment was so negative and hostile, and they like shutting down conversation. This forum is a lot slower in comparison, but I find it more enjoyable to post on and believe it has a better future in the long run.
I am guessing you were just swinging by to make your one post and we won't see you back again, but if you decide to stick around and participate welcome back.
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Yepp!So, it is safe to be here again?
How many of that are hot-takes and people trying to bait others?I don't know Era seems to be doing fine going off thread and post numbers
like here the reveal trailer thread for RE2 Remake was 7 pages
Era's was 76
But in all fairness, being popular does not say everything, ofcourse. For instance, it does not talk about the kind of direction or policy that The Names are currently operating with. Such things are very much behind the scenes in an unofficial matter.But you said 76.. didnt you mean.. Fallout 76?
Welcome back, by the way, if you happen to stick around for some time more
I for one would love a SP episode directed towards controversial forums (To keep it more broad). This is a funny picture, obviously, but not one i would share personally. I understand the mockery is purely towards The Names but as you would know, i dont consider everyone on ERA problematic.Posted over at kiwi. This is amazing:
Heh, SweetNicole as PC Principal.. and who is going to be the Janitor, mkay?*
EDIT: Oi, i see you used an emoji. How do i get these? I dont have them but i reckon that if write :thinking: i get the thinking emoji? EDIT: no. Hmm..
Mochilador
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It's pretty weird to see screenshots of my posts at kiwifarm.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Too bad they didn't look at mines yet regarding Sagal :/ (jk).
Mochilador
Member
Hey, the ban aggregator has new features now!
JordanN
Banned
https://www.resetera.com/threads/16...him-at-whataburger.53567/page-3#post-10070961
and of course
https://www.resetera.com/threads/16...wn-at-him-at-whataburger.53567/#post-10070357
Once again, a forum where Republicans/Trump supporters are being called Nazis and are being met with violence.
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JordanN
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The thread gets worse and worse. I'm getting GAF early 2017 vibes.
For how much the left use to talk about the dangers of dehumanization or objectification, they're literally turning Republicans into objects to be beaten up.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/16...im-at-whataburger.53567/page-10#post-10076166
For how much the left use to talk about the dangers of dehumanization or objectification, they're literally turning Republicans into objects to be beaten up.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/16...im-at-whataburger.53567/page-10#post-10076166
https://www.resetera.com/threads/16...im-at-whataburger.53567/page-11#post-10077149
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I'm new be nice
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Can you even really consider a child a Republican if they can't even vote?
It just seems like they're saying it's okay to assault a child.
I'd have to really read the thread to see if that's the overall tone though.
Edit: the kids sound monstrous, but they're still just kids. Shouldn't be assaulting kids.
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prag16
Banned
They've totally lost touch with any sense of reality. Definition of toxic echo chamber. It may even be worse than late 2016 / early 2017 gaf. Even if not, that's where it's headed.
I'm new be nice
Member
It's definitely worse.
Lionel Richie
Member
I don't think they lost touch, they never had it. Resetera WAS created by the dude that tried to run a boycott campaign against A Hat in Time in this very forum. Let's never forget that. It was created in lunacy and that shit spreads like the fucking plague.
prag16
Banned
They whip themselves up into such a frenzy. All the time. It must be so exhausting. But at least they'll be on the right side of history regarding whether or not lack of sexual attraction to trans people inherently makes you a bigoted piece of shit. Worth it.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
Looking through that thread further. Someone over there is probably going to hurt someone eventually.
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10073991/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10074716/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10070664/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10082034/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10081488/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10073991/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10074716/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10070664/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10082034/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10081488/
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Red Mage
Member
I can't imagine what it was like after the election. I was a third party voter, so I left before the election because Beefsoda kept making cryptic threats about my wrongthink.
It's Jeff
Banned
Sweet Christmas. I think we all have somebody like this in our family. You know, the one that shits up every Thanksgiving? The one that can't calm the fuck down and watch the Lions get busted up while we pick at leftovers?
What a fun crowd.
Dr. Claus
Banned
They are teenagers. They are dumb and they will learn. Hell, I remember when I was (roughly) their age and my friends and I would have competitions to see who can say the most vile/awful things to get rises out of each other and anyone who was listening in, because we knew that people tend to listen in on others conversations.
Even if they say something horrid, you call a manager and have them removed. You do not take their property or engage in physical altercations - especially if you are a bloody adult.
The fact that so many are cheering on this petty action is disheartening. Even more so that they are comparing the symbol of mass genocide and one of the worst groups in known history to a bloody campaign slogan. My god they need to seek some help.
I'm new be nice
Member
It was extremely disheartening to me too when this place took that turn overall, and was when I decided to stop posting here.
It's the clearest distinction I can find between our two communities. They've (though to be fair, not all of them) taken the step towards advocating for violence beyond law.
Throughout my life the one constant I've come to learn is you don't fight hate with hate. Every time I've met someone who disagreed with who I am I've appealed to their humanity, and I've always made at least some headway.
Sadly the world isn't fair, and the only way to play a lopsided game is to play it better than your opponent.
That's how I've always felt anyways, but i'm not exactly a paragon. I try not to be too harmless.
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