Dr. Claus
Banned
Hey, I said that all creepers have anime avatars, not that all people with anime avatars are creepers
If A always = B, does B always = A?
True. True. I really shouldn't post when sleep deprived.
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True. True. I really shouldn't post when sleep deprived.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
recma12
Member
Thank you!
I was born in the mid 80s so technically I'm also a millenial. I totally get what you're saying and fully agree. Resetera is the aggregate of everything that's wrong with millenials.
Wasn't there even a thread lately where people were banned for stating that they wouldn't have sex with a transperson?
Seems like the whole tolerance/equal rights movement has totally gone out of hand on Era.
As far as transpeople are concerned, It went from "please don't round us up and kill us" (a legit request I fully support) to "you gotta build us our own, seperate bathrooms or else" and it seems to be "if you don't have sex with us you're a bigot" nowadays on ERA.
No wonder many of these ERA folks are struggling IRL, they don't understand that the world doesn't give a fuck about you and YOU are the one that's gotta fit in. (for reference: Jessica Price case)
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Papa
Banned
I'm also an early millennial born in the 80s. The late-stage Buzzfeed millennials are a completely different breed.
recma12
Member
I have my own little theory about the old vs young millennial thing.
As a mid 80s baby I didn't own a cell phone before I turned 15 and the Internet wasn't really a dominating thing in my life before I turned 17 or 18.
This meant I was forced to deal with actual people on a face to face basis during my childhood and teenage years. So I had to put my feelings aside and adapt within my cirlce of friends. I never got to choose my classmates, football teammates or cousins. If someone had a different opinion or used a mean word, you had to suck it up.
By contrast, a millenial born in 1995 grew up with cellphones and the Internet. From a very young age these kids got to live in their bubble and were able to grow up in millions of "echo chambers" were everybody talked/thought/felt like them. If someone IRL hurt their feels, they got to escape online.
captainraincoat
Banned
Some great points.
i think technology ......while great for the ability to watch porn on the toilet has created a breed of people that lack the real life social skills which put them into a negative position when they have to deal with real life problems
from there they attach to the easiest thing where others have a similar problem...the internet
from there with the creation of all these apps which share lives..photos its mutated into groups of people which take anything that they read on the internet as fact and go into social justice mode without looking at the proof and facts
and not realising this sort of shit destroys lives and has people painting the walls with their brains or hanging themselves from a tree.....over typed words
People are so quick to write something off or label something without actually looking at the whole picture
Really sad when you think about it
That Mike Judge Movies .Idiocracy is becoming more true by the day
i think technology ......while great for the ability to watch porn on the toilet has created a breed of people that lack the real life social skills which put them into a negative position when they have to deal with real life problems
from there they attach to the easiest thing where others have a similar problem...the internet
from there with the creation of all these apps which share lives..photos its mutated into groups of people which take anything that they read on the internet as fact and go into social justice mode without looking at the proof and facts
and not realising this sort of shit destroys lives and has people painting the walls with their brains or hanging themselves from a tree.....over typed words
People are so quick to write something off or label something without actually looking at the whole picture
Really sad when you think about it
That Mike Judge Movies .Idiocracy is becoming more true by the day
recma12
Member
Anectodal evidence:
In my high school in Berlin, we had Jews, Muslims, Blacks, Antifa people, guys with nordic rune shirts and I can't even remember a single heated argument, let alone phyiscal violence over political issue.
Why? Because we had shit to talk about besides politics and identity crap.
There was no Spotify and Youtube, we all watched MTV/VIVA and were exposed to all kinds of music (Cobain, Tupac, Madonna etc).
There was no Netflix, we all watched the same couple of shows.
There were no right/left echo chambers, we all read the same news.
Even if you were into Rap music, you could still have a nice chat with a metal dude and vice versa.
Nowadays, one kid is into Albanian house music and Brazilian telenovelas, while the other kid is all about Australian Rugby and Anime.
They both are able to watch and listen to nothing besides the stuff they like.
WTF are they going to talk about IRL? There's nothing left besides gender & identity stuff, right?
That's the biggest issue IMO the hardcore ERA users live in their tiny bubble where stuff like "boobs in JPRG games" or "usage of the word female" are important. They'll never be able to talk to Trump supporter about anything.
Back in my days, I couldn't stand a lot of people's political opinions so we always discussed harmless stuff like "did you watch the Simpsons episode last night" or "how bout that football game last night". And voila, we got along pretty well on a basic human level.
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KevinKeene
Banned
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-girlfriend-broke-up-with-me-today.56007/#post-10498463
Permabanned for saying 'females'.
I think I'll only call women 'females' from now on. Also fuck people who use 'woman' as an adjective. It's a noun.
Permabanned for saying 'females'.
I think I'll only call women 'females' from now on. Also fuck people who use 'woman' as an adjective. It's a noun.
Papa
Banned
Hahahahaha amazing.
I don't understand their rationale behind banning the term female. Women refers to adult females, girls refers to adolescent females. Female is a generic term. Wat.
C
cpp_is_king
we are aware of the community side. We are in between a rock and hard place. We don't want to try and reinvigorate something that will be subject to fundamental change as we undergo the redesign. But they are on the roadmap. Lots of things happening and we don't just want to lift and place. If there are better and more interactive ways to achieve or bring back the communities then we will take the extra time and add to the continuous service improvement plan.
captainraincoat
Banned
Has male in the word....must be it
Papa
Banned
Is femxle acceptable?
captainraincoat
Banned
I honestly dont know...im not an insensitive person but seriously...this person with the issue with female is probably a brilliant troll which the mods have taken the bait and ran with it
Papa
Banned
Pretty sure it was a mod who posted it...
JORMBO
Darkness no more
That describes me growing up also. We didn't have cellphones, apps or 5000 TV shows available with one click. When I was a kid my parents would hand me a football and tell me to go round up some neighborhood kids to play with. Instead of staring at screens we were forced to all interact in real life even if we were all into different things. Sometimes we would listen to rap, sometimes metal...it was all good. We seemed to always get along fine. I had friends of all different races and backgrounds. I don't remember race or social issue topics ever coming up.
I think being forced to interact with different people all the time while growing up helps with having real conversations and listening to different viewpoints. Some of these kids today growing up on cellphones and getting all their interactions via apps and online games are missing out.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
I stared at this post and ban for a solid minute. I'm not even sure what to say it is so bizarre.
GenericUser
Member
To clarify: The (tranny) mods presumably are mad when someone calls a women a female, because that is one thing the trannys will never achieve: being a biological female. So these mods (in their stupidity) ban users for calling women females. Just let that sink in.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
That would have to be this post right here. User threw a rant because he wanted to block more than 1000 people, which is kind of.. strange if you ask me. Especially since this user has not even clocked 700 posts yet, so why block so many people? That is more than 1 person per post blocked, so obviously some lurking has to have occurred where such a user would block people along the way during lurking, which makes it even more strange. Why block people you don't even interact with but you just lurk a thread?Don't forget, blocked, on our block list that is over 1,000 already, and that we recommend everyone else should too.
(Yes, I actually saw someone having a meltdown on there where they did say their block list was over a 1,000 people.)
Welcome back Tesseract. I remember you for your extensive postings!
I guess i am the referee then?
Because ''females'' is incorrect grammar. Not multiple females, but multiple women. That and because the comment follows up so closely to that other thread makes a member of The Names think its intentional.
Now, hear me out, i do think it is said intentionally to take a stab at it, but a permban is completely out of order. Even a warning is. What ive seen one site do is that when certain phrasing is intentionally said to get a rise out of people but (normally) its too little to push a warning, i would just send a PM about it.*
*I already think that's over doing it, though.
What i find way more damning is how this post saying: ''Women are complicated. We will never know what is going on in their heads. Stay strong, don't think too much about your both past. Try to do things you couldn't do when you were together. Meet up with Friends and discover new things You like to do.'' is a 3 day ban for ''Reinforcing harmful stereotypes about women''. I reckon its because of the ''We will never know what is going in their heads'' part but really, i cant see why that's harmful. The same can be said for men, because nobody can literally look inside a brain and its decisionmaking at in a regular conversation.
And if its about the ''Women are complicated'' part, i don't see why that's harmful either. Part of why women are complicated also means that (in general) they are more sensitive to specific things, which is what many can and will appreciate. Women being complicated has both its pluses and its minuses. If they want to be consistent, then they should also ban people for saying that ''Men are less complicated''.
As for the OP of that thread, its really sad that things went as they were, and her sleeping with someone else is a no-no, but i also want to say that communication is key. The fact that there was such a divide, a divide big enough that the lady in question started having feelings for others (And both sides not communicating on this) is what has contributed to this sad outcome. Because reading that OP it becomes clear that they didn't really communicate about these things.
Careful, this is actually Nintendophobic and you might get actioned for displaying Nintendophobia. You are portraying the usage of the word ''Switch'' in a negative light, which is problematic. History of accumulated infractions, also. /s.
Dr. Claus
Banned
To be fair, you are pretty creepy
Just kidding of course xD
C'mon man, don't be like that. While I don't like the mods, the issue hardly has anything to do with being transgender. It is more based around their far-left authoritarian mindset as well as extreme views of feminism.
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Liberty4all
Banned
That would have to be this post right here. User threw a rant because he wanted to block more than 1000 people, which is kind of.. strange if you ask me. Especially since this user has not even clocked 700 posts yet, so why block so many people? That is more than 1 person per post blocked, so obviously some lurking has to have occurred where such a user would block people along the way during lurking, which makes it even more strange. Why block people you don't even interact with but you just lurk a thread?
Welcome back Tesseract. I remember you for your extensive postings!
I guess i am the referee then?
Because ''females'' is incorrect grammar. Not multiple females, but multiple women. That and because the comment follows up so closely to that other thread makes a member of The Names think its intentional.
Now, hear me out, i do think it is said intentionally to take a stab at it, but a permban is completely out of order. Even a warning is. What ive seen one site do is that when certain phrasing is intentionally said to get a rise out of people but (normally) its too little to push a warning, i would just send a PM about it.*
*I already think that's over doing it, though.
What i find way more damning is how this post saying: ''Women are complicated. We will never know what is going on in their heads. Stay strong, don't think too much about your both past. Try to do things you couldn't do when you were together. Meet up with Friends and discover new things You like to do.'' is a 3 day ban for ''Reinforcing harmful stereotypes about women''. I reckon its because of the ''We will never know what is going in their heads'' part but really, i cant see why that's harmful. The same can be said for men, because nobody can literally look inside a brain and its decisionmaking at in a regular conversation.
And if its about the ''Women are complicated'' part, i don't see why that's harmful either. Part of why women are complicated also means that (in general) they are more sensitive to specific things, which is what many can and will appreciate. Women being complicated has both its pluses and its minuses. If they want to be consistent, then they should also ban people for saying that ''Men are less complicated''.
Yup I thought that other ban For saying women are complicated was way worse. Ideologically fuelled ban over petty defining of words. That poster was participating in good faith and got banned over literally nothing.
Liberty4all
Banned
C'mon man, don't be like that. While I don't like the mods, the issue hardly has anything to do with being transgender. It is more based around their far-left authoritarian mindset as well as extreme views of feminism.
I disagree. It's not bigotry to acknowledge that many if not most of the bans being handed out over there are certainly being driven by a small sub group of transgendered mods supported by their far left allies - all of whom have an agenda.
I mean look, one guy gets banned for saying women are complicated, the other over the female joke which was certainly in reference to that other ridiculous thread.
What's the root cause of it all? Transsexual politics. Almost everything I see over there, when you eventually boil it all down to who is driving the agenda, who is doing the majority of the bans, and what issues are being protected religiously, it's 90% of the time trans related be it the mod behind the ban or the issue the poster is being banned over.
I would even argue that this was a big part of the break down on GAF too.
Shit will kill their community as it almost did ours.
I'd be curious to hear
Cindi Mayweather
take on it as that's an opinion I respect on these issues.
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cpp_is_king
Member
Anyone who remembers my long and tumultuous history on gaf will know that I'm about as far from an sjw as you can get, but the female thing makes sense to me (with a caveat).
The reason is that female (and male) do not necessarily refer to humans. A bear or an ant can be a female. Even a tree can be a female. Granted, it of course can be used to refer to people, but due to its use primarily as a generic biological classifier, it's very awkward when used in everyday contexts.
Does it sound normal to say "damn that female is fine"?
Or "i used to know this one female who was crazy"
Or "there's this female at my office that is so loud"
It's just.... not even proper English.
Now for the caveat I mentioned earlier ? Nobody actually does this, or at the very least it is so rare that it sure as hell isnt worth making a thread about. So i still see it as a ban baiting thread
The reason is that female (and male) do not necessarily refer to humans. A bear or an ant can be a female. Even a tree can be a female. Granted, it of course can be used to refer to people, but due to its use primarily as a generic biological classifier, it's very awkward when used in everyday contexts.
Does it sound normal to say "damn that female is fine"?
Or "i used to know this one female who was crazy"
Or "there's this female at my office that is so loud"
It's just.... not even proper English.
Now for the caveat I mentioned earlier ? Nobody actually does this, or at the very least it is so rare that it sure as hell isnt worth making a thread about. So i still see it as a ban baiting thread
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
You might aswell ban them for incorrect semantics or something like that.
What bothers me more is that its done by people belonging to a incredibly small minority that all that it wants to have is trans acceptance. And that is a wonderful goal. But i can never understand why members of The Names and The Little Helpers think you can achieve that by forcing a very singular-mind like to your userbase where any diversity of opinion is flagged. It does not make you push for trans acceptance, all it makes you look like is being a militrans person. You push for trans negativity, instead of acceptance, by enforcing such a policy.
Liberty4all
Banned
That's what I think too.
Dr. Claus
Banned
I disagree. It's not bigotry to acknowledge that many if not most of the bans being handed out over there are certainly being driven by a small sub group of transgendered mods supported by their far left allies - all of whom have an agenda.
I mean look, one guy gets banned for saying women are complicated, the other over the female joke which was certainly in reference to that other ridiculous thread.
What's the root cause of it all? Transsexual politics. Almost everything I see over there, when you eventually boil it all down to who is driving the agenda, who is doing the majority of the bans, and what issues are being protected religiously, it's 90% of the time trans related be it the mod behind the ban or the issue the poster is being banned over.
I would even argue that this was a big part of the break down on GAF too.
Shit will kill their community as it almost did ours.
I'd be curious to hear
Again, I have to disagree. This isn't "transgender politics". This is far-left authoritarian politics being commanded by extreme feminists (and possibly misandrists). I see the same thing with these types of feminists all over the United States who try to push back against the term of any gendered/male orientated language. Human, female, mankind, etc. The same thing happened in GAF before the split by various mods who were not trans.
dolabla
Member
dream
Member
"User Banned (1 Week): Altering content to support sexist rhetoric."
I mean, what can you even say about this sort of lunacy?
I mean, what can you even say about this sort of lunacy?
NickFire
Member
I disagree with you in part. I think you are right about who is driving the bus in most respects, but the other poster is also correct in my opinion. I'm pretty sure that the other site has been open that they let the trans mods make many decisions on trans issues, and there seems to be an intent to get everyone to transcend from tolerance, respect, and acceptance, to saying things they do not believe to be true, or to not speaking at all if they refuse (when they are allegedly a place to debate). Earlier today someone here asked why aren't people attracted to trans people the same as people of their preferred gender who were born as their preferred gender. If you asked that question over there, good luck to anyone who answers honestly without claiming "if you aren't attracted to them you are a bigot."
Liberty4all
Banned
A clear case of the truth hurts so we will ban that truth. It was obvious even without the alteration, but the alteration makes it even more painfully obvious.
I love how the poster goes to great lengths saying they are not trying to offend only to get baseball bat ban.
Clearly a forum that respects diversity of opinions /s
recma12
Member
Yeah, I thought that one was even worse than the "female" ban. The " there's enough females" guy was kinda rude (by that forum's standards) because they had a thread the day before about the topic.
But "women are complicated" WTF?!
I have no clue what that poster meant to say, but where I'm from, that doesn't mean women are inferior to men. In Germany we say "Frauen sind eben schwierig....".
This simply means that it's (sometimes) complicated for men to understand the decisions of women in a relationship context. Oh and this goes both ways, so there's nothing sexist about it either.
Reinforce the walls of the echo chamber.
I'm just glad to have bailed on ERA, even the tiniest slip up in good faith can earn you a ban.
This is especially tough for people like me who aren't native speakers.
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Mochilador
Member
Amazing.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Altering a pic to highlight how male something is (Especially compared to its original counterpart) is obviously problematic. /s. At the same time, The Names consider this, or this, or this or this (Where this user literally admits that she is only ''making fun'' out of the user) not problematic/harassment/dogpiling/whistling/condescension/baiting at all. Sadly, and perhaps unsurprisingly, it comes from the same user i called ''Master Baiter'' prior.
Its this kind of thing that needs to end and which is actually more problematic than the consistent assumption of bad intent by The Names when they ban these users, but keep these Little Helpers off bay when, mildly put, it reeks of classic bullying if you ask me.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh they definitely are wanne-be bullies, sanctioned by the authority of that site.
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It's Jeff
Banned
I can say that neither the post nor the alteration represents any form of sexist rhetoric that I've ever seen. This person is illustrating that without the one identifiable feminine feature, design principles of this model are male.
But take a week off, I guess.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Clearly the intent is to highlight how male the new character looks if you simply remove some aspects. Compare to the original that was way more feminine (Can't say ''female looking'', you know.) The intentions are good. So to frame that as ''Sexist rhetoric'' simply means that a member of The Names looks at that and assumes bad intent on it. If one read the tone of the post (Which The Names should have no problems with given how The Names know perfectly what posts are tone policing and what not, jk), you would know its not said to be inflammatory or to promote sexist rhetoric.
It's Jeff
Banned
What's really interesting is this observation actually spurs good conversation! What would this take to be more feminine and why? Suppose I keep the shoulders and rib cage the same, but made fuller lips or added eye shadow? This character has a secret identity, so is this playing on Jung's animus and anima? That's interesting! Let the conversation rock.
Nope. Somebody thinks you're vaguely bashing... something or someone that's a protected class like an endangered woodpecker. Eat a ban, fascist.
Papa
Banned
What would you use if you needed an umbrella term for all female humans irrespective of age?
Papa
Banned
I believe what they want goes far beyond acceptance and is more like glorification.
Papa
Banned
Calcium
Banned
That was the ban that finally got me to request a permanent ban today. I just can't comprehend the moderation on Resetera. I gave it a shot, but that place isn't for me.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I mean, differing views is what keeps any conversation healthy. Literally banning one good intended side of it is what causes a conversation to get unhealthy. It should be the other way around: Moderation that is sensible not sensational.
Alright, i am just going to post something blunt and harsh in here, as i think it describes what one would call ''an inconvenient truth''.
GUIDE TO BEING A LITTLE HELPER OR A MEMBER OF THE NAMES:
To me, all it seems one has to do to be a Little Helper and/or a member of The Names is the following:
- Supporting Militrans people
- Forfeit any negatives associated with these groups. They are what they are because they are a minority!
- Have personal issues of your own (Anxiety, Depression, etc)
- Demonstrate a willingness to read people's posts but to not actually listen to what they are saying
- Using subtle snarks to piss people off
- IRL have social issues that you aren't willing to fix to the point where instead of posting on ERA you would be actually dedicating most of your time to fixing said problems
- Most importantly: The ability to get legitimately offended at things that in a IRL conversation would not hold up (And thus make you look socially awkward, justifying the offensism that they have)
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Lol, I just saw the "Women are complicated" ban. Good lord.
Tornado Condor
Member
If you can't think like a victimized transexual, you don't really belong there.
Dr. Claus
Banned
I definitely can, as I was one of those types of people before my ban. I had close to 200 people on my ignore list as I was tired of seeing the same idiotic dribble about how gaming is sexist, how everything is evil, and how "Gamers" are the worst.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I've seen that shit, people getting banned for not responding to others or the hive mind pile-ons. Fucking joke.
ipukespiders
Member
Wahmyn
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