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[Papa]

TyrantGuardian goes full commie. He wants Open Borders and expensive as hell taxes for only "Developed countries".


https://www.resetera.com/threads/sw...mans-deportation-to-hell.57684/#post-10764012


https://www.resetera.com/threads/sw...mans-deportation-to-hell.57684/#post-10764038


https://www.resetera.com/threads/sw...eportation-to-hell.57684/page-2#post-10764074




https://www.resetera.com/threads/sw...eportation-to-hell.57684/page-2#post-10764134

Remember, if you don't vote, it's these guys who are going to be in power and tax everyone to death with their mass migration schemes. Every vote counts to stop developed countries from turning into the next Soviet Bloc.

That guy needs a dose of economics 101, stat.

 

[captainraincoat]

Zero self

The Polygon forums look shit; as do the Waypoint forums; I couldn't find a link to the Kotaku forums; Kiwi Farms looks like it might be kinda fun (hadn't heard of it before, thanks for mentioning it); and the Easy Allies forums look shit.

I popped my head into kiwi farms and said hello...some of the other areas are a little extreme but if you look at the video in the sign up process you get an idea of what's about to come.

In saying that it comes across as a very level forum which ain't afraid to sling shit either way
They are also responsible for the lovely bot crawler which is like watching the greatest hits version of the forum crazyness at the other place

http://resetera.kiwifarms.net

In aus we also have a forum called whirlpool but its turned into a bit of hole lately.

Quite a few places have moved onto discord communities

Edit...special mention for somethingawful.com
They have some good posters there but it's a bit of a dick swinging competition with join dates and lowtax bans people at random for entertainment sometimes

If you can deal with that it's another good place

 

[Papa]

I popped my head into kiwi farms and said hello...some of the other areas are a little extreme but if you look at the video in the sign up process you get an idea of what's about to come.

In saying that it comes across as a very level forum which ain't afraid to sling shit either way
They are also responsible for the lovely bot crawler which is like watching the greatest hits version of the forum crazyness at the other place

http://resetera.kiwifarms.net

In aus we also have a forum called whirlpool but its turned into a bit of hole lately.

Quite a few places have moved onto discord communities

Btw I meant the Era people you quoted had zero self awareness, not you haha.

 

[captainraincoat]

Btw I meant the Era people you quoted had zero self awareness, not you haha.

Lol...was scratching my head there lol...all good

 

[Tornado Condor]

Btw I meant the Era people you quoted had zero self awareness, not you haha.

It's hard to have self awareness when you never leave your parent's basement.

 

[Boss Mog]

I went to look at how bad that place is, but honestly it's way worse than I imagined. They are literally defending a child rapist because he's a brown migrant and sane people who are saying it's a heinous crime and his deportation is a logical punishment get permanently banned. Truly the inmates running the asylum over there. I don't understand how any sane person could want to be associated with that place in any capacity.

 

[Yoshi]

You said you were a conservative in your post.

Gone.

Though it is true that conservatives have it hard at Resetera, I do not see where you get that from. I am far left on fiscal issues, on social security (including tax-payed universal health care), on education, I am for free research (basically no limits unless people are directly affected negatively), against weapons in the hands of civilians, for personal freedom in all ways unless others are being harmed (includes, e.g. gay marriage, walking around nude, taking drugs, talking disrespectful about whatever you feel like talking disrespectful about and so on), for state-side enforced strong ecological standards, for higher taxes for people who earn a ton of money, and for liberal immigration laws (though with an emphasis on better qualified people). Also, I am an atheist, which is not a left position, but a non-conservative one.

The only issues I may potentially qualify as conservative on are language (I am in favour of precise and formal language, so, e.g. I think it is completely fine to say "female" to refer to female humans (but not in contrast to men; if you use female, the contrasting word should be male) and I do not practice gender mainstreaming in my language) and I think that the traditional family model of one stay-home parent is best for the children and should be supported by the state.

This puts me into the pretty far left camp at least here in Germany, so it is a bit irritating that I had such a hard time in a left-leaning forum such as Resetera. I am a bit sad to be banned there, because there are quite a few nice people there, most of which I got to know here previously with whom I have no other shared platform.

 

[captainraincoat]

Though it is true that conservatives have it hard at Resetera, I do not see where you get that from. I am far left on fiscal issues, on social security (including tax-payed universal health care), on education, I am for free research (basically no limits unless people are directly affected negatively), against weapons in the hands of civilians, for personal freedom in all ways unless others are being harmed (includes, e.g. gay marriage, walking around nude, taking drugs, talking disrespectful about whatever you feel like talking disrespectful about and so on), for state-side enforced strong ecological standards, for higher taxes for people who earn a ton of money, and for liberal immigration laws (though with an emphasis on better qualified people). Also, I am an atheist, which is not a left position, but a non-conservative one.

The only issues I may potentially qualify as conservative on are language (I am in favour of precise and formal language, so, e.g. I think it is completely fine to say "female" to refer to female humans (but not in contrast to men; if you use female, the contrasting word should be male) and I do not practice gender mainstreaming in my language) and I think that the traditional family model of one stay-home parent is best for the children and should be supported by the state.

This puts me into the pretty far left camp at least here in Germany, so it is a bit irritating that I had such a hard time in a left-leaning forum such as Resetera. I am a bit sad to be banned there, because there are quite a few nice people there, most of which I got to know here previously with whom I have no other shared platform.

Welcome back over

I dont agree with putting people into boxes....like the Myso box...the Sexist Box...the Far Right Box..this is how they appear to be handling their moderation .

People are very multilayered and have different life experiences to others and your traditional left and right leaning people rules dont apply to most
just because someone does not agree with your view they are not a Bigot...just because someone appreciates a pin up poster of a half naked woman they are not sexist

Posters in here come from many countries....are many races and have many beliefs
I think somewhere along the way they forgot that and majority and people are starting to click that something is very wrong over there

Hopefully some more of the good posters come back over but i honestly think that place will implode within the next 6 months on the trajectory its heading.

 

[Yoshi]

Welcome back over

Thank you, I wasn't ever gone though, I was just active in both forums. More active at Resetera, but that has a lot to do with them having more members.

I dont agree with putting people into boxes.

On this point I agree partially. Not everyone can be put into a box on a certain issue and sometimes singular opinions are being used to group people into boxes that have a far broader meaning. On the other hand, categorisation can be helpful, to quickly get rough information accross. If you were to ask me, what are your political leanings, I'd say left-wing green. That would give you an idea of the majority of the things I stated above. It becomes problematic when categorisations are abused to vilify or paint in black and white.

It is of course something that is favoured by people being sensitive to their own group-membership. Self-identification and intersectional arguments are driving a simplistic commulative group-membership view on people. Make no mistake, this is something that is being used in politics from both sides a lot. Lefties traditionally group according to wealth / possession of production goods, righties according to religion and ethnicity (earlier also by stand). This allows to de-personalise arguments and remove individual aspects of people; to formulate general policies and observations of group-based behaviour. On the other hand, it is very dangerous to apply this to individuals excessively, because it masks the complexity of the individual human being and I'd argue it is a form of dehumanisation to treat a person just by a single label you associate with them.

One should be aware of the group dynamics and their consequences in particular for the groups one is rightfully grouped into, but a "we vs. them" mentality in direct conversation is seldom helpful. (Not never though, there is good reason, for instance, to reject a racist even on political issues you agree with him, because you risk normalising and making acceptable their racist positions by direct cooperation)

Hopefully some more of the good posters come back over but i honestly think that place will implode within the next 6 months on the trajectory its heading.

Two thoughts on that:

1. I doubt many people are coming back, because from my observation, the few people who went to Resetera and were not condemning this forum for the allegations towards Evilore have never really left. Those who do condemn this forum would rather go somewhere else than come back. Comebacks so far were from further in the past. Though DCharlie certainly is notable.

2. I doubt even more that Resetera will implode. They have a ton of members, a huge amount of people joining all the time as well and the strict moderation practices there are not very dissimilar to the strict moderation practices that were common here for many years. The only reason NeoGAF fell was that mud was dug out on the owner (which is not validating whether the allegations are true; I have no basis to say one way or the other and I frankly do not care), and I suspect the same to be true for Resetera: As long as no one starts bringing up serious allegations against Cerium that go against the views supported in the community, I do not see them crashing.

They have reached a certain critical mass that some unfair, strong-handed or petty bannings will not endanger. And as far as I can see, Cerium is keeping a much lower profile than Evilore did, which certainly is a safer way to go. In fact, I have to commend Cerium in the sense that he apparently does not use personal animosities to decide who to let on the website. Looking back at the Yooka-Laylee discussion, he was pretty mad at me, but still I was let in (never hiding who I was) and only the third ban resulted in an ejection off the board. I do not agree with the ban, especially the permanent part, and I do feel some issues are handled too heavy-handedly, but Resetera still has not reached the level of individual power abuse that was rampant around here, when the site was still pretty well off.

 

[captainraincoat]

Thank you, I wasn't ever gone though, I was just active in both forums. More active at Resetera, but that has a lot to do with them having more members.

On this point I agree partially. Not everyone can be put into a box on a certain issue and sometimes singular opinions are being used to group people into boxes that have a far broader meaning. On the other hand, categorisation can be helpful, to quickly get rough information accross. If you were to ask me, what are your political leanings, I'd say left-wing green. That would give you an idea of the majority of the things I stated above. It becomes problematic when categorisations are abused to vilify or paint in black and white.

It is of course something that is favoured by people being sensitive to their own group-membership. Self-identification and intersectional arguments are driving a simplistic commulative group-membership view on people. Make no mistake, this is something that is being used in politics from both sides a lot. Lefties traditionally group according to wealth / possession of production goods, righties according to religion and ethnicity (earlier also by stand). This allows to de-personalise arguments and remove individual aspects of people; to formulate general policies and observations of group-based behaviour. On the other hand, it is very dangerous to apply this to individuals excessively, because it masks the complexity of the individual human being and I'd argue it is a form of dehumanisation to treat a person just by a single label you associate with them.

One should be aware of the group dynamics and their consequences in particular for the groups one is rightfully grouped into, but a "we vs. them" mentality in direct conversation is seldom helpful. (Not never though, there is good reason, for instance, to reject a racist even on political issues you agree with him, because you risk normalising and making acceptable their racist positions by direct cooperation)

Two thoughts on that:

1. I doubt many people are coming back, because from my observation, the few people who went to Resetera and were not condemning this forum for the allegations towards Evilore have never really left. Those who do condemn this forum would rather go somewhere else than come back. Comebacks so far were from further in the past. Though DCharlie certainly is notable.

2. I doubt even more that Resetera will implode. They have a ton of members, a huge amount of people joining all the time as well and the strict moderation practices there are not very dissimilar to the strict moderation practices that were common here for many years. The only reason NeoGAF fell was that mud was dug out on the owner (which is not validating whether the allegations are true; I have no basis to say one way or the other and I frankly do not care), and I suspect the same to be true for Resetera: As long as no one starts bringing up serious allegations against Cerium that go against the views supported in the community, I do not see them crashing.

They have reached a certain critical mass that some unfair, strong-handed or petty bannings will not endanger. And as far as I can see, Cerium is keeping a much lower profile than Evilore did, which certainly is a safer way to go. In fact, I have to commend Cerium in the sense that he apparently does not use personal animosities to decide who to let on the website. Looking back at the Yooka-Laylee discussion, he was pretty mad at me, but still I was let in (never hiding who I was) and only the third ban resulted in an ejection off the board. I do not agree with the ban, especially the permanent part, and I do feel some issues are handled too heavy-handedly, but Resetera still has not reached the level of individual power abuse that was rampant around here, when the site was still pretty well off.

Well said

 

[DeepEnigma]

It all comes down to the bottom line, especially early on. They are going to let people in whether they liked you or not just to get that ad revenue going, and once they are up to optimal standard then they'll ban people they don't like or anyone who has wrong think.

It's all about the revenue in the beginning. Hence why they ramped up the banning into their authoritarian style several months after reaching at peak capacity.

It was a bait and switch just to get everyone there initially.

 

[Corrik]

Though it is true that conservatives have it hard at Resetera, I do not see where you get that from. I am far left on fiscal issues, on social security (including tax-payed universal health care), on education, I am for free research (basically no limits unless people are directly affected negatively), against weapons in the hands of civilians, for personal freedom in all ways unless others are being harmed (includes, e.g. gay marriage, walking around nude, taking drugs, talking disrespectful about whatever you feel like talking disrespectful about and so on), for state-side enforced strong ecological standards, for higher taxes for people who earn a ton of money, and for liberal immigration laws (though with an emphasis on better qualified people). Also, I am an atheist, which is not a left position, but a non-conservative one.

The only issues I may potentially qualify as conservative on are language (I am in favour of precise and formal language, so, e.g. I think it is completely fine to say "female" to refer to female humans (but not in contrast to men; if you use female, the contrasting word should be male) and I do not practice gender mainstreaming in my language) and I think that the traditional family model of one stay-home parent is best for the children and should be supported by the state.

This puts me into the pretty far left camp at least here in Germany, so it is a bit irritating that I had such a hard time in a left-leaning forum such as Resetera. I am a bit sad to be banned there, because there are quite a few nice people there, most of which I got to know here previously with whom I have no other shared platform.

Did you misunderstand my post? You said you were conservative in your post on ResetERA. It puts you on a list to be banned.

 

[Yoshi]

Did you misunderstand my post? You said you were conservative in your post on ResetERA. It puts you on a list to be banned.

This is how I understood it, but I am unaware how I have said I am a conservative, because, frankly, there are almost no issues I would qualify as conservative on in the slightest.

 

[cpp_is_king]

I found this post on the same page that Yoshi got banned

Also, needless to say but it bears emphasis, there is no "biological immutable property" of sex. That's a misconception pushed by decades of patriarchal pseudoscience, pushed by men who tried to fit the facts to suit their narrative rather than the other way around.

Is this for real? What about, you know, an XY chromosome vs an XX chromosome? Is that fake news?

 

[Skyr]

This is how I understood it, but I am unaware how I have said I am a conservative, because, frankly, there are almost no issues I would qualify as conservative on in the slightest.

I think what he means is that you had a rather conservative view on the topic at hand in that thread. And that is was enough for them to enforce a ban.

 

[James T. Kirk]

I popped my head into kiwi farms and said hello...some of the other areas are a little extreme but if you look at the video in the sign up process you get an idea of what's about to come.

In saying that it comes across as a very level forum which ain't afraid to sling shit either way
They are also responsible for the lovely bot crawler which is like watching the greatest hits version of the forum crazyness at the other place

http://resetera.kiwifarms.net

In aus we also have a forum called whirlpool but its turned into a bit of hole lately.

Quite a few places have moved onto discord communities

Edit...special mention for somethingawful.com
They have some good posters there but it's a bit of a dick swinging competition with join dates and lowtax bans people at random for entertainment sometimes

If you can deal with that it's another good place

Thanks. I had a closer look at Kiwi Farms but it's not for me. I don't like a lotta the attitudes around there.

I had a look at Whirlpool but it's too tech-oriented for me and the layout is boring.

Is there a NeoGAF Discord?

I'd never join SomethingAwful. I only join free sites.

 

[James T. Kirk]

I went to look at how bad that place is, but honestly it's way worse than I imagined. They are literally defending a child rapist because he's a brown migrant and sane people who are saying it's a heinous crime and his deportation is a logical punishment get permanently banned. Truly the inmates running the asylum over there. I don't understand how any sane person could want to be associated with that place in any capacity.

You're talking about ResetEra?

 

[DeepEnigma]

You just can't make this shit up.

 

[The Elite]

I took a poop in bad faith this morning.

 

[James T. Kirk]

You just can't make this shit up.

ResetEra mod I just spoke to had this to say, "Fuck inclusiveness. Progressiveness means shutting down all free thought and free speech. Everybody MUST all think and speak EXACTLY the same way and if they don't, they'll get the banhammer up their ass."

Spoiler

I spoke to no one.

 

[Mochilador]

Some dev dares to say that the atmosphere might be a bit hostile, gets dogpiled by REEera in the process.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/neogaf-resetera.9636/page-395#post-3598789

They just confirmed what he said.

You just can't make this shit up.

At least some people over there are aware of the problems.

 

[dolabla]

Whenever a new article gets posted about an alleged rape or racist attack, there are literally people who post "let's wait for the facts /s" they actually are saying that sarcastically. Why wouldn't you ever wait for facts? And why would you admit they aren't important to you?

Maybe we're just crazy to want to know what actually took place

 

[James T. Kirk]

Maybe we're just crazy to want to know what actually took place

Another ResetEra mod I just spoke to said, "Why concern ourselves with reality? What have facts ever done for us?"

Spoiler

I made him up too.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Whenever a new article gets posted about an alleged rape or racist attack, there are literally people who post "let's wait for the facts /s" they actually are saying that sarcastically. Why wouldn't you ever wait for facts? And why would you admit they aren't important to you?

i

This is leftover from biggies like Trayvon, where there was a bunch of certain people on gaf were like "we don't know know exactly what happened".

But like era is wont to do, they're being embarrassing in the ironic use of it.

 

[dolabla]

Some dev dares to say that the atmosphere might be a bit hostile, gets dogpiled by REEera in the process.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/neogaf-resetera.9636/page-395#post-3598789

Man.........

And that's why they don't post. When you're being chased off/dogpiled by an angry mob who's more concerned with inserting their politics in your game instead of talking level design, etc......... Why would any dev want to post there in that type of enviornment just so the angry mob could potentially be set off by literally anything that goes against their beliefs which could lead to a # twitter campaign against said dev? It's way too big of a risk with nutjobs like that.

 

[JimmyJones]

Skyrim dev dropping truths on Era. Apparantly the thread got locked!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Skyrim dev dropping truths on Era. Apparantly the thread got locked!

So great to see a developer, especially one of the "darling games", drop the truth bombs.

Any other poster would have been perm'ed however, lol.

 

[The Elite]

Skyrim dev dropping truths on Era. Apparantly the thread got locked!

Wow. They locked it. I was looking for it this morning and surprised I couldn't find it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Wow. They locked it. I was looking for it this morning and surprised I couldn't find it.

Of course they did. Got put in their place, now for damage control.

 

[James T. Kirk]

Of course they did. Got put in their place, now for damage control.

How can they possibly control that damage?

 

[DeepEnigma]

How can they possibly control that damage?

I would say they would put out more fluff pieces on themselves (from their media frens), and lessen the insane ban sprees they have been on, but the latter would be giving them too much credit, eh?

But I suppose, "the damage is done" as well. At least for those of us in here anyways.

 

[James T. Kirk]

I would say they would put out more fluff pieces on themselves (from their media frens), and lessen the insane ban sprees they have been on, but the latter would be giving them too much credit, eh?

But I suppose, "the damage is done" as well. At least for those of us in here anyways.

From everything I've read about them, far too much.

 

[DeepEnigma]

From everything I've read about them, far too much.

Of course, I was mainly being tongue in cheek "devil's advocate". That place is too far gone.

 

[James T. Kirk]

Of course, I was mainly being tongue in cheek "devil's advocate". That place is too far gone.

Time for someone to set up a ResetResetEra, perhaps?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Time for someone to set up a ResetResetEra, perhaps?

Not it!

 

[James T. Kirk]

Not it!

What?

 

[DeepEnigma]

What?

Just an old school saying that I will not volunteer or be asked to. Just being cheeky.

 

[Wheeljack539]

Time for someone to set up a ResetResetEra, perhaps?

From my understanding something like that is already in the works from posters who believe the current moderation doesn't go far enough to help them. Whether or not it gets off the ground I don't know.

 

[mneuro]

I can find the humor in reset imploding, but I'm worried it will lead to members trying to bring that mentality back to Gaf. I'm sure Gafs current mod team are already considering this possibility.

 

[Wheeljack539]

I can find the humor in reset imploding, but I'm worried it will lead to members trying to bring that mentality back to Gaf. I'm sure Gafs current mod team are already considering this possibility.

Much like Yoshi mentioned above I don't think many of those type of posters would come back simply due to their perceived notions of the current atmosphere on GAF (in that they feel its too far right for them to be a part of since differing opinions aren't going to be silenced).

It's the masses that left due to not wanting to be left behind (and likely didn't care about the blowup last year) that has a better chance of returning but even then the returnees, if any, would be a portion.

 

[The Elite]

Much like Yoshi mentioned above I don't think many of those type of posters would come back simply due to their perceived notions of the current atmosphere on GAF (in that they feel its too far right for them to be a part of since differing opinions aren't going to be silenced).

It's the masses that left due to not wanting to be left behind (and likely didn't care about the blowup last year) that has a better chance of returning but even then the returnees, if any, would be a portion.

I moved over to Reset because I had no idea if GAF was even coming back in any reasonable form. I decided to not implode my account because, well, that's childish and stupid but also because I have a long history here and didn't want to throw that away.

I lurked for a while and now post more often. The freedom for discussion is far better than Reset. I do have some concerns with a few right wing users but as long as their not insulting I think they should be free to speak their mind.

I still post on Reset as well because there is more discussion there but I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to bounce back and forth throughout the day. I'm sure some people on Reset consider me the devil for posting on here at all though.

 

[James T. Kirk]

From my understanding something like that is already in the works from posters who believe the current moderation doesn't go far enough to help them. Whether or not it gets off the ground I don't know.

Ya mean posters who believe the mods aren't anti-free speech enough?

 

[Wheeljack539]

Ya mean posters who believe the mods aren't anti-free speech enough?

Yup. From that last big thread they had they already believe that they themselves aren't a very left leaning forum at all and need to do more.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yup. From that last big thread they had they already believe that they themselves aren't a very left leaning forum at all and need to do more.

 

[Windom Earle]

I took a poop in bad faith this morning.

Poop is still above white males in the REEera food chain due to it's color.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

1. I doubt many people are coming back, because from my observation, the few people who went to Resetera and were not condemning this forum for the allegations towards Evilore have never really left. Those who do condemn this forum would rather go somewhere else than come back. Comebacks so far were from further in the past. Though DCharlie certainly is notable.

2. I doubt even more that Resetera will implode. They have a ton of members, a huge amount of people joining all the time as well and the strict moderation practices there are not very dissimilar to the strict moderation practices that were common here for many years. The only reason NeoGAF fell was that mud was dug out on the owner (which is not validating whether the allegations are true; I have no basis to say one way or the other and I frankly do not care), and I suspect the same to be true for Resetera: As long as no one starts bringing up serious allegations against Cerium that go against the views supported in the community, I do not see them crashing.

Yeah, I agree with these.

The first is definitely true for me. I got myself banned probably 6 months or so before "showergate" as I was just sick of the console warring, fanboy Nonsense on GAF--especially from the Nintendo side (and I'm someone who grew up with Nintendo, has a Switch, 35 or so Amiibo, and Zelda poster in my game room etc.!). I think most that left because of showergate/evilore will never come back and will just end up at Waypoint or other left leaning forums.

But I also agree that I don't see Resetera failing. GAF had all that shit, including the terrible moderation, for years and was fine until showergate pissed enough people off to create momentum for a mass exodus. I don't see the same over there unless something similar happens as you note. They just have too many members, too active a gaming and gaming hangouts area for the political nonsense to drive the site down. Peopel who don't care about that stuff will just stay on the gaming side and out of the gaming politics threads just like they did here previously. Plus gaming is something that seems to be moving further toward the left as time goes on and younger generations become more of market anyway (see more AAA games with women leads, gay leads etc.), so their "brand" will likely remain popular much to the ire of some here and the sites like Kiwifarms, r/the_donald etc.

I want nothing to do with that place despite being pretty far to the left myself and requested a ban, but I think it will be fine membership and activity wise unless one of the Owners/Admins gets in some kind of shitstorm. Even then they can ride it out of the person is willing to step aside and leave the site.

Hell, they could end up getting even bigger if those that don't feel it's left leaning enough do leave and make their own site or go to Waypoint or whatever as that would probably calm down some of the extremism and terrible moderation.

 

[Skyn3t]

It's really not about about Era collapsing, but GAF growing, rising form ashes. I don't give a fuck about Era, but want GAF to be as active as before minus the one correct narrative. Hey, I disagree with some people here, but didn't experience any hostility nor did I presented it. Attack the topic, not the people.

 

[James T. Kirk]

Yup. From that last big thread they had they already believe that they themselves aren't a very left leaning forum at all and need to do more.

It's sad how many mistake fascism for liberalism.

Pity someone doesn't think of setting up a ResetResetResetEra where ya can just say whatever the fuck ya like.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

It's sad how many mistake fascism for liberalism.

Pity someone doesn't think of setting up a ResetResetResetEra where ya can just say whatever the fuck ya like.

There are plenty of unmoderated forums, sub-reddits etc. out there. None with near the traffic of Era that I'm aware of. And there's a good reason for that as they're toxic cesspools of people attacking each other with every slur and insult in the book. Basically what you get in public chat in popular games--and why most everyone is in party chat and never game chat for years now....it's just not worth putting up with that shit.

Moderation is key to good discussion, it's just very tricky to get the balance right of not stifling opinions while keeping people civil and getting the trolls banned etc. The mods here seem to do a great job. The moderation team at Cheapassgamer.com did a good job back in the day before traffic died off outside the deals forum there as well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's sad how many mistake fascism for liberalism.

Pity someone doesn't think of setting up a ResetResetResetEra where ya can just say whatever the fuck ya like.

Ding ding ding!

If they yell they are anti-fascist enough, while being violent and/or authoritarian, they "control the narrative". It is usually those that are the loudest painting a picture about themselves (projecting), that are the total opposite of what they claim. Wolves in sheep's clothing.