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[Mochilador]

Pretty sure Ree doesn't delete their users. Like other people mentioned before, you have other tables related to the user like posts, user likes and pms.
Deleting an user would be trouble.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Furthermore, being so hard line pushes away people who have largely the same values as you. This is not unique to that particular forum though.

Definitely this. I'm quite far left based on the political compass etc., but just couldn't take the modding and just the overall hostility and negativity of the place. It was even worse than GAF before the meltdown--and I'd quit GAF months before the split as I was sick of it.

And I'm mostly just talking the gaming side stuff (and movie and TV shows). That community just seems to hate everything, bitching and trolling about games, movies, shows etc. ad nauseum. I want to come to a forum to hang out with other people who actually enjoy the hobbies we're discussing. It need not be an everything is positive circle jerk of course as criticism, reviews etc. are important. But there's a place (like review threads) for those discussion and OT threads are better when they're mostly chatty hangouts for people enjoying the game, show etc. Shows are especially bad with the amount of people in that community who "hate watch" series year after year and shit up the thread each week bitching about how bad the show has gotten etc. I just don't have space or energy for that constant negativity--especially when it's related to hobbies I do for FUN to escape from the negatives of real life.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Definitely this. I'm quite far left based on the political compass etc., but just couldn't take the modding and just the overall hostility and negativity of the place. It was even worse than GAF before the meltdown--and I'd quit GAF months before the split as I was sick of it.

And I'm mostly just talking the gaming side stuff (and movie and TV shows). That community just seems to hate everything, bitching and trolling about games, movies, shows etc. ad nauseum. I want to come to a forum to hang out with other people who actually enjoy the hobbies we're discussing. It need not be an everything is positive circle jerk of course as criticism, reviews etc. are important. But there's a place (like review threads) for those discussion and OT threads are better when they're mostly chatty hangouts for people enjoying the game, show etc. Shows are especially bad with the amount of people in that community who "hate watch" series year after year and shit up the thread each week bitching about how bad the show has gotten etc. I just don't have space or energy for that constant negativity--especially when it's related to hobbies I do for FUN to escape from the negatives of real life.

Hell, they have an entire thread dedicated to the evils of being associated with the term "Gamer", in a fuckin' video game forum. The shit is just unreal.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Hell, they have an entire thread dedicated to the evils of being associated with the term "Gamer", in a fuckin' video game forum. The shit is just unreal.

Those who say that, are not gamers themselves. Mental cases pushing their dogmatic "political" ideologies upon people, hacktivists yelling at each other in their echo chamber. They even cannibalize themselves when there is no direct "enemy" to target.

When the brain no longer thinks it has to fight for survival, it starts to fight itself.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Hell, they have an entire thread dedicated to the evils of being associated with the term "Gamer", in a fuckin' video game forum. The shit is just unreal.

I've seen that thread on a bunch of forums over the years, though I imagine their's is way worse given the state of that place.

That's something I don't really take much issue with as I've always thought it lame to label oneself after a hobby (especially a media consumption one). Be it "gamer," "movie buff," "runner" or whatever. Just screams "I have no life and define myself by hobbies instead of meaningful things like friends, family, career and public service." But I'm a judgmental prick, so what do I know. *shrugs*

That aside, there's still just the stigma around gaming as an adult. It's not what it used to be, but I get odd reactions from colleagues when they find out I play games (none of them due to my knowledge).

 

[DeepEnigma]

I've seen that thread on a bunch of forums over the years, though I imagine their's is way worse given the state of that place.

That's something I don't really take much issue with as I've always thought it lame to label oneself after a hobby (especially a media consumption one). Be it "gamer," "movie buff," "runner" or whatever. Just screams "I have no life and define myself by hobbies instead of meaningful things like friends, family, career and public service." But I'm a judgmental prick, so what do I know. *shrugs*

Just like when someone calls themselves a Liberal or a Conservative too then, eh?

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Just like when someone calls themselves a Liberal or a Conservative too then, eh?

Those are less cringeworthy to an extent as those get at fundamental belief systems rather than hobbies, but yes. Labeling oneself as anything is pretty lame in my view. Live your life, do things you enjoy and care about and let those things define you in other's eyes instead of stupid, self-applied labels.

Most people that go around saying they're a liberal or a conservative (rather than saying their beliefs are) tend to be pretty hypocritical in their actual lives in my experience. Be it the liberals on Era who live very capitalistic lives or the small-government conservatives who are on social-assistance programs and so on.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Those are less cringeworthy to an extent as those get at fundamental belief systems rather than hobbies, but yes. Labeling oneself as anything is pretty lame in my view. Live your life, do things you enjoy and care about and let those things define you in other's eyes instead of stupid, self applied labels.

Most people that go around saying they're liberal or conservative (rather than saying their beliefs are) tend to be pretty hypocritical in their actual lives in my experience. Best it the liberals on Era who live very capitalistic lives or the small government conservatives who are on social assistance programs and so on.

I agree, just like "pride" should not have anything to do with things out of your control (race, country born in, etc.), it should be reserved for accomplishments you busted your ass to achieve.

I still think the attack on "gamers" is more rooted in political ideology, and has nothing to do with gaming. That is where I think those who actually are there for political astroturfing are not even "gamers" or those who play video games themselves.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Definitely this. I'm quite far left based on the political compass etc., but just couldn't take the modding and just the overall hostility and negativity of the place. It was even worse than GAF before the meltdown--and I'd quit GAF months before the split as I was sick of it.

And I'm mostly just talking the gaming side stuff (and movie and TV shows). That community just seems to hate everything, bitching and trolling about games, movies, shows etc. ad nauseum. I want to come to a forum to hang out with other people who actually enjoy the hobbies we're discussing. It need not be an everything is positive circle jerk of course as criticism, reviews etc. are important. But there's a place (like review threads) for those discussion and OT threads are better when they're mostly chatty hangouts for people enjoying the game, show etc. Shows are especially bad with the amount of people in that community who "hate watch" series year after year and shit up the thread each week bitching about how bad the show has gotten etc. I just don't have space or energy for that constant negativity--especially when it's related to hobbies I do for FUN to escape from the negatives of real life.

I'm not joking when I say I've enjoyed gaming much more than I had in years thanks to no longer being there. That place is so nitpicky and negative towards everything that I started to do the same.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I still think the attack on "gamers" is more rooted in political ideology, and has nothing to do with gaming. That is where I think those who actually are there for political astroturfing are not even "gamers" or those who play video games themselves.

That's shifted over the years. Prior to gamergate it was a "bad" thing to be a gamer as it was just associated with being a nerd, being a manchild etc. i.e. the women's magazine/websites that list gaming as a "sign you may be dating a man child," the amount of women's dating profiles that said/say that gaming was a deal breaker (or turn off) etc.

Post-gamergate that's still a thing, but that super toxic subset of the community got more limelight and now more and more people do think of/mean those people when they say/hear "gamer" unfortunately. It's the "few bad apples ruin the whole bunch" phenomenon I guess.

I'm not joking when I say I've enjoyed gaming much more than I had in years thanks to no longer being there. That place is so nitpicky and negative towards everything that I started to do the same.

Same here when I quit GAF in summer (or maybe spring) 2017 until hopping on Era when it started up. It was positive and fun for a few months but got super negative and cynical fast so I noped out of there again. Already feeling relief after being away from that negativity again for a couple of weeks. I'll quit here again if the gaming side goes down that path when/if activity picks up. Hopefully it will hit a happy place of having enough members to stay active enough to be a daily visit (or multiple times a day), but not get huge and bring in all the trolls and Debbie Downers again.

 

[michaelius]

I'm not joking when I say I've enjoyed gaming much more than I had in years thanks to no longer being there. That place is so nitpicky and negative towards everything that I started to do the same.

Right there was a lot of mentality that either game is best in series/genre or total crap with no middle ground.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Right there was a lot of mentality that either game is best in series/genre or total crap with no middle ground.

Political extremists with extreme views on games... no, can't be.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Political extremists with extreme views on games... no, can't be.

Actually most sites are like that these days unfortunately. I think it's less politics and more just the social media era ushering in the need to have and share strong opinions on everything to get liked, upvoted, retweets etc.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Actually most sites are like that these days unfortunately. I think it's less politics and more just the social media era ushering in the need to have and share strong opinions on everything to get liked, upvoted, retweets etc.

Funny thing in all of this mess... the more a certain group of people shout "non-binary", the more and more binary we are becoming (on views). No room for shades of grey, unless there are 50 of them.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-was-the-feedback-thread-erased-from-existence.60334/

Feedback thread about the feedback thread. This should be amusing...

 

[dionysus]

Have the mods over there every provided guidance on what "arguing in bad faith" actually means? I think it means arguing a POV you don't actually believe in just to create drama, but they ban people for that reason who quite clearly believe what they are arguing and often even post evidence to support it.

To me it seems "arguing in bad faith" is just them saying that all arguments that don't align with the accepted group think are verboten. Pessimistically, I believe many of the resetera mods have a worldview that there is no legitimate disagreement with their deeply held worldview, therefore all counter arguments by very definition must be motivated by a hidden nefarious ideology, like racism.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Have the mods over there every provided guidance on what "arguing in bad faith" actually means? I think it means arguing a POV you don't actually believe in just to create drama, but they ban people for that reason who quite clearly believe what they are arguing and often even post evidence to support it.

To me it seems "arguing in bad faith" is just them saying that all arguments that don't align with the accepted group think are verboten. Pessimistically, I believe many of the resetera mods have a worldview that there is no legitimate disagreement with their deeply held worldview, therefore all counter arguments by very definition must be motivated by a hidden nefarious ideology, like racism.

Bingo. That is all it means, and it happened here for years, prior to their exit.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Have the mods over there every provided guidance on what "arguing in bad faith" actually means? I think it means arguing a POV you don't actually believe in just to create drama, but they ban people for that reason who quite clearly believe what they are arguing and often even post evidence to support it.

To me it seems "arguing in bad faith" is just them saying that all arguments that don't align with the accepted group think are verboten. Pessimistically, I believe many of the resetera mods have a worldview that there is no legitimate disagreement with their deeply held worldview, therefore all counter arguments by very definition must be motivated by a hidden nefarious ideology, like racism.

You will find this exact phenomenon at the heart of every ideologically-driven movement.

The Russians rose up and killed the Tzars, then they killed the "kulaks" who'd helped them kill the Tzars, then they killed the Revolutionaries and Intellectuals who helped them kill the "kulaks", then they killed the mad dogs (who were too murderous to keep around) who killed the Revolutionaries and Intellectuals that were thinking too far out of line.

It's analogous to a cult. If you isolated any of these individuals and asked them to support their own beliefs in a clinical setting, you'd see all the red flags common to emotional abuse, narcissism, and brainwashing. And to be clear, yes, I am referring to the "Intellectual Left" that is currently melting itself down into mostly slag.

 

[dionysus]

Bingo. That is all it means, and it happened here for years, prior to their exit.

I've been on neogaf for a long time. It was crazy in 2017, end of 2016, but in general if you avoided poligaf threads or threads explicitly about gamergate it was never like Resetera. Most annoying thing about 2016/2017 Neogaf was that somehow every topic could be related back to Trump, which would then derail the topic.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I've been on neogaf for a long time. It was crazy in 2017, end of 2016, but in general if you avoided poligaf threads or threads explicitly about gamergate it was never like Resetera. Most annoying thing about 2016/2017 Neogaf was that somehow every topic could be related back to Trump, which would then derail the topic.

I will agree, here was a microcosm to what evolved over there. Now that they were not able to force out Evilore, and they made their own space, they have definitely "spread their wings" much more.

 

[TheSadRanger]

It's not like Resetera is even a majority population of a hobby anyways. Forty thousand people is like what, 0.01% of the population of the United States.

 

[Redneckerz]

Pretty sure Ree doesn't delete their users. Like other people mentioned before, you have other tables related to the user like posts, user likes and pms.
Deleting an user would be trouble.

So they delete threads instead. (See the feedback one). The OldGAF playbook comes in handy once again. Maybe some of the old staff hangs around under an alt aswell.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-was-the-feedback-thread-erased-from-existence.60334/

Feedback thread about the feedback thread. This should be amusing...

''The intent of the feedback thread was to only have it open/visible for the weekend.''

You couldn't even keep it open for half a day before one of the admin members of The Names decided to throw some dirt of a personal nature towards a user with proper feedback.

Own up for your nonsense. The reason it got poofed is because The Names can't deal with transparent feedback like they so desperately wanted from it users. Nah, they truly thought they had it all right now... and then even Little Helpers did their mutiny.

But don't worry, i can already tell what they will do with this feedback: Putting a mark on everyone who dared say anything reasonably constructive and/or ban them later on with a made up reasoning like ''Character assassination of an digital user, history of similar.''

The Names are so hellbent on throwing dirt on anyone else failing to be responsible but when its on them, suddenly threads need to be poofed. We are 10 months in and The Names already gave the term Resetera one you associate with a hugbox the likes of Thanos not even could stop if he wanted to.

But hey, failure to take responsibility and holding yourself accountable (Effectively looking in the mirror for once) is not something uncommon along The Names and their Little Helpers. Case in point.

 

[yet_another_alt]

Now I don't particularly want join in here cause frankly you all seem a wee bit too obsessed (who am I kidding this thread? this thread is hilarious) but I was bored and made the mistake of installing a freemium game when I came across something that you might enjoy. Yes, it's really in the game. I dub him Zapp Erannigan formerly Zapp BranniGAF.

Also the game is bad.

 

[Mochilador]

So they delete threads instead. (See the feedback one). The OldGAF playbook comes in handy once again. Maybe some of the old staff hangs around under an alt aswell.


''The intent of the feedback thread was to only have it open/visible for the weekend.''

You couldn't even keep it open for half a day before one of the admin members of The Names decided to throw some dirt of a personal nature towards a user with proper feedback.

Own up for your nonsense. The reason it got poofed is because The Names can't deal with transparent feedback like they so desperately wanted from it users. Nah, they truly thought they had it all right now... and then even Little Helpers did their mutiny.

But don't worry, i can already tell what they will do with this feedback: Putting a mark on everyone who dared say anything reasonably constructive and/or ban them later on with a made up reasoning like ''Character assassination of an digital user, history of similar.''

The Names are so hellbent on throwing dirt on anyone else failing to be responsible but when its on them, suddenly threads need to be poofed. We are 10 months in and The Names already gave the term Resetera one you associate with a hugbox the likes of Thanos not even could stop if he wanted to.

But hey, failure to take responsibility and holding yourself accountable (Effectively looking in the mirror for once) is nothing something uncommon along The Names and their Little Helpers. Case in point.

I don't think it was deleted from the database, probably hidden and behind some permission.

 

[cpp_is_king]

I don't think it was deleted from the database, probably hidden and behind some permission.

But why? I thought the forum was founded in the name of transparency

 

[Redneckerz]

I don't think it was deleted from the database, probably hidden and behind some permission.

Yeah i messed up in that. They just threw it in the shadows.

There has been talk the Discords are a mess too, sadly i am locked out of it, but it should be fairly obvious that the mask from which ERA was cast is showing cracks... and they aren't the nicest ones to look at.

 

[JORMBO]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-was-the-feedback-thread-erased-from-existence.60334/

Feedback thread about the feedback thread. This should be amusing...

Maybe I am crazy, but I'm pretty sure Hecht is full of shit.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

Maybe I am crazy, but I'm pretty sure Hecht is full of shit.

what makes you think that?

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Maybe I am crazy, but I'm pretty sure Hecht is full of shit.

The fact that they didn't even keep it open during the entirety of the weekend kind of ruins his narrative.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

That GAF Ban page is pretty interesting transparency. Also lmao @ Shiki getting perma banned XD

 

[Mochilador]

That GAF Ban page is pretty interesting transparency. Also lmao @ Shiki getting perma banned XD

I haven't noticed before, is that new?

 

[Papa]

That GAF Ban page is pretty interesting transparency. Also lmao @ Shiki getting perma banned XD

I missed that one, wonder what he did. He was an odd character.

 

[Dr. Claus]

I missed that one, wonder what he did. He was an odd character.

Taken from the ban page: "Inability to follow forum rules or moderation requests. Obsessive racial derails, inappropriate metacommentary, hostile demeanor. Not a good fit for NeoGAF. "

 

[Papa]

Taken from the ban page: "Inability to follow forum rules or moderation requests. Obsessive racial derails, inappropriate metacommentary, hostile demeanor. Not a good fit for NeoGAF. "

Yeah but I was wondering what the last straw was. Wish we could see the relevant post for permabans.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Yeah but I was wondering what the last straw was. Wish we could see the relevant post for permabans.

I think it was just an ongoing issue over multiple posts with no particular "one" that broke the camel's back. We should see more post-referenced bans in the future as this is still a new feature. Maybe make a comment in the thread asking for more focus on that particular aspect.

 

[Kagey K]

I really like the new ban page and hope I never end up on it, (I likely will); It's very smart and gives and extra look into the behind the scenes.

Much better then the Purple forum denying certain conversations happened.

 

[Typhares]

Reset finally talk about Candace Owen and antifa

Most here would agree that they are both evil monsters.

They shouldn't be able to go out in public without constantly having to look over their shoulder.

Counter protests and interrupting rallies are one thing, but it seems like these people were just otherwise minding their own business. Kinda uncalled for imo.

Oh no sorry that guy is banned!

 

[TheSadRanger]

^ That thread is gross.

Also Candace Owens made a pretty good jab, "liberals think that they own blacks, still. They believe there is something proprietary about being black in this country and if you deviate from how they want you to think or how they want you to act, they grow violent." Isn't that a Malcolm X quote?

Here's a fox news interview she did with some raw cell phone footage.


She talked about how the antifa group was mainly white and that the police helping her had more black people than they did and antifa was talking shit to the police. Also I just don't see public opinion siding with a group of white people yelling at a black woman.

 

[JordanN]

Reset finally talk about Candace Owen and antifa




Oh no sorry that guy is banned!

The nutcases at Resetera still think every Republican is LITERALLY HITLER.

The brand of conservatism in the current GOP is absolutely fascism.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cn...staurant-by-antifa-group.60444/#post-11199932

And leave it to Kyzer to say this is all the work of Russians.

Russians playing us like a fiddle left right and in between. Too easy to get Americans to fight each other and justify it. At this point any person who doesn't see how embarrassing political discourse has become is lying to themselves. Democrats and Republicans starting to dehumanize each other.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cn...nt-by-antifa-group.60444/page-3#post-11202397

 

[SatansReverence]

I'm not sure if SoulUnison is still active here but my word, if you ever needed to see evidence of the left eating its own, there it is.

The most troubling bit is, they think they are just "the left" or even moderate in their views. You would have to be absolutely delusional to think that.

 

[TheSadRanger]

Whenever I hear the splitting of families being brought up it makes me roll my eyes. I mean come on, Trump hasn't even president for two years. ICE is running under the same modus operandi they did under Obama for eight and no one gave a shit about it. FFS Obama was pretty well known for deporting more illegal immigrants than any previous president in U.S history.

It's not that I don't have sympathy but I find the arguments in bad faith.

 

[JORMBO]

Reset finally talk about Candace Owen and antifa




Oh no sorry that guy is banned!

I'm amazed anyone can watch that video and do anything but cringe at how lame and dumb those protesters are. But I guess a lot of the people posting in RE political threads would fit right in with that group of protesters.

Here's a guy that seems like a normal and well adjusted individual: https://www.resetera.com/threads/cn...staurant-by-antifa-group.60444/#post-11199433

someone needs to create an app that sends out alerts when republican rats are spotted in public, that would make it even easier for these flash protests to pop up.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

oh wait I thought this was the other thread.

I just reeeed

 

[SatansReverence]

I mean, as soon as I had a little gander through that thread I knew this was gonna happen

How do they even come to these conclusions

inb4 "permanent" because "history of severe infractions"

 

[Michele]

I mean, as soon as I had a little gander through that thread I knew this was gonna happen

How do they even come to these conclusions

inb4 "permanent" because "history of severe infractions"

I don't get this REEEEEEE at all sometimes. Although he might have been a bit harsh, he might have had a point there.

 

[SoulUnison]

I just don't get it. My politics are definitively pretty heavily left-leaning, but this is just wrong to me, morally, and there's absolutely no way to have a discussion about it.
I did my best to stay as even-toned and civil as I could in that conversation. I stayed in the thread for hours and responded to everyone that talked to me, regardless of their tone.
Because that's what I believe in. I believe that having a dialog and attempting to build bridges is more powerful than bullying. That's what the Democratic party originally taught me.
I was demeaned, insulted, personally attacked, and I'm the one that gets banned over that post?

I'm sorry, but that's the way I was raised, and I don't feel I'm wrong. Racism runs in every direction. If you belittle a person because they're black, or white, or any other color, you're a racist.
If you have a legitimate issue with the person, then bring that up - their skin color shouldn't matter, and if you feel that you have to bring their race into it to prove a point, then you're making their race a negative trait, which is racism.

This issue seems ridiculously cut and dry to me.

And apparently there's some whole secret language that people have with baggage and implications attached to it, and if you use a specific word without knowing its "history" you get totally labeled and categorized, accuracy be damned.
Some other guy uses the term "SJW" in that thread in a pretty darn innocuous context, and he gets dogpiled with "You said SJW. Now we know who you really are."

I've been left leaning since I was in middle school and realized that the Republican party seemed to consider me a lesser person for being gay.
I've been a registered democrat since I was old enough to vote.
But you say a single thing that doesn't match up to what they want a liberal to sound like, and it's "Oh, you're a gaslighter." or "Oh, you're a right wing spy." or "Oh, you're just pretending."
It's...seriously gross and everything that they criticize the other side for doing done totally non-ironically.

I just don't *get* it.
I'm no longer comfortable on either of these forums.
GAF feels like it's gone to some kind of bitter, anti-SJW place and ERA is sliding into some sort of authoritarian left place.

I even knew that I shouldn't have gotten into that conversation.
This has happened multiple times before and I always tell myself "If I remain respectful in tone and explain my views and positions, what can go wrong?"
And I always end up banned.

If these people are my political party...I wasn't wrong. They're pushing me away.
I fear that that the blue wave is never going to happen at the midterms because people like this are going to completely demoralize people from being able to sympathize and support with them.

And, honestly, how am I banned for being "inflammatory" but that El Bombastico dude is fine?
I'm not sure he has a single post in that entire thread that isn't an intentionally condescending, insulting and inflammatory one liner.

 

[JordanN]

I just don't get it. My politics are definitively pretty heavily left-leaning, but this is just wrong to me, morally, and there's absolutely no way to have a discussion about it.
I did my best to stay as even-toned and civil as I could in that conversation. I stayed in the thread for hours and responded to everyone that talked to me, regardless of their tone.
I was demeaned, insulted, personally attacked, and I'm the one that gets banned over that post?

You made the mistake of believing civility is what they care about.

Look how many times they bash anyone who comes close to being moderate? "Boogie" is literally the go to insult for anyone who attempts to argue "both sides" on Reset.

And you say GAF is sliding into an anti-SJW place, but no one here is actually banned for being pro-Trump/anti-Trump. On Resetera, there are no Centre-Left/Right-leaning users who aren't in hiding or keep it private.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

The mods on era are ridiculous, don't over think it.

 

[DeepEnigma]

^ That thread is gross.

Also Candace Owens made a pretty good jab, "liberals think that they own blacks, still. They believe there is something proprietary about being black in this country and if you deviate from how they want you to think or how they want you to act, they grow violent." Isn't that a Malcolm X quote?

Here's a fox news interview she did with some raw cell phone footage.


She talked about how the antifa group was mainly white and that the police helping her had more black people than they did and antifa was talking shit to the police. Also I just don't see public opinion siding with a group of white people yelling at a black woman.

She is pure wifey right there.

Antifa are just racists that dyed their white hoods into black ones.

 

[Typhares]

I like this thread quite a lot surprised OP manages to stay calm trying to explain himself.