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[Tupinambis_WOT]

There's also a bitter irony here in reading several posters who regularly complain about teh evul SJW's and PC culture jumping down Klepek's throat for something he did in undergrad like, 13 years ago.... all the while failing to realize how this does not actually make him a hypocrite. All it makes him is a really bad person at the age of 18-21, but fuck it, I was a bad person at that age too.

Accusing Klepek as being a hypocrite for calling out Thorn is like accusing Gunn if he had called out Roseanne. The situations are not the same. Someone who was a bad person a decade ago but has since made a sincere effort to be a better person isn't comparable to someone who has been a bad person [or has just done some shitty thing] and either refuses or fails to stop doing it.

It would 100% be hypocritical if Klepek was still writing the shit that was in the OP today, or if he wrote it last week.... but he didn't. Would he jump down someone's throat for the same exact situation if they had been a right-winger? Probably, or at least he would have been tempted to [Walker or Zacny would probably have made him cut that shit out], but then again the "ANTI-SJW's!!!!" would probably try normalizing it as being completely acceptable in that situation.

 

[brap]

Someone who was a bad person a decade ago but has since made a sincere effort to be a better person

 

[Tupinambis_WOT]

Thank you for your insightful feedback. Find an instance where he's still doing the same shit that he did in undergrad and then you can keep laughing.

 

[Petrae]

There's also a bitter irony here in reading several posters who regularly complain about teh evul SJW's and PC culture jumping down Klepek's throat for something he did in undergrad like, 13 years ago.... all the while failing to realize how this does not actually make him a hypocrite. All it makes him is a really bad person at the age of 18-21, but fuck it, I was a bad person at that age too.

Accusing Klepek as being a hypocrite for calling out Thorn is like accusing Gunn if he had called out Roseanne. The situations are not the same. Someone who was a bad person a decade ago but has since made a sincere effort to be a better person isn't comparable to someone who has been a bad person [or has just done some shitty thing] and either refuses or fails to stop doing it.

It would 100% be hypocritical if Klepek was still writing the shit that was in the OP today, or if he wrote it last week.... but he didn't. Would he jump down someone's throat for the same exact situation if they had been a right-winger? Probably, or at least he would have been tempted to [Walker or Zacny would probably have made him cut that shit out], but then again the "ANTI-SJW's!!!!" would probably try normalizing it as being completely acceptable in that situation.

You're leaving out a significant detail in that Klepek was actively pushing to get a person separated from his employer, overstepping his role as a member of the press to pursue a role in what he perceives to be social justice.

When you start playing judge, jury, and executioner in a social justice vigilante role, you had better make damned sure that you're background is squeaky fucking clean— but the side that you chose to back is going to have enemies on the opposite side who will stop at nothing to take you down in response.

Klepek might arguably be a "better person" now— which is debatable at best, given his lack of tolerance and his actions here— but that doesn't explain away stupid shit he did... even if people want to frame such behavior as things college-age people do. As an adult, you're still responsible for your actions, and that includes whatever you decide to post on the internet. The idea of giving adults excuses/mulligans because they're in college is, frankly, bullshit. There's generally at least 18 years of life to act stupidly before going to college. You make your mistakes and learn from them then. Plenty of other college kids don't post images like Klepek's and joke about rape, and many didn't back then, either.

Besides, this is all ado about nothing. None of Klepek's colleagues in the gaming press have dared to run this story, and he'll be shielded by them from any outside criticism. Gaming press takes care of its own.

 

[oagboghi2]

Thank you for your insightful feedback. Find an instance where he's still doing the same shit that he did in undergrad and then you can keep laughing.

Find an instance of what? Patrick creating drama so he can get someone fired? He is doing that right now.

What exactly are you defending?

 

[prag16]

Those of us smack talking Klepek in this thread aren't tssk tssking him goofing off in college. Nobody really cares about that (not even the people who dredged up the dirt). But based on the pretentious virtue signaling asshole he has become, routinely judging the unwashed cretinous gaming community from on high, we ARE engaging a little bit of schadenfreude (similarly to how some of us have chuckled at Gunn's past use of that stick figure "free speech" comic in light of what happened to him recently). If he had stayed in his lane instead of actively lobbying to get another member of the gaming community fired from his job, this never would have happened to him. Karma's a bitch.

 

[Shai-Tan]

I am definitely going to give this a look, thank you.

There's an audible version of So You've Been Publicly Shamed narrated by him if anyone has free audible credits. He also goes over some of the material in his Joe Rogan interviews along with stories about his previous books.

 

[brap]

Thank you for your insightful feedback. Find an instance where he's still doing the same shit that he did in undergrad and then you can keep laughing.

Klip Klop is trying to get some dude fired. That doesn't make him a better person. He's still a fucking sack of shit but in a different way.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

EviLore

You gonna do this interview?



If so then

 

[EviLore]

Am I supposed to have cooties or some shit? What's this guy going on about?

 

[ipukespiders]

Monroe knows where to find EviLore, he could ask his questions here.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Am I supposed to have cooties or some shit? What's this guy going on about?

I just wasn't sure if you were aware of it. I'm of the fuck Klepek and Schreier mentality, since they both fucked you over without remorse.

 

[HagglesworthMD]

When it comes to Patrick unfortunately nothing surprises me.

Practice what we preach not as we do seems to be the overarching narrative from games "journalists" for the last few years.

 

[nakedeyes]

You're leaving out a significant detail in that Klepek was actively pushing to get a person separated from his employer, overstepping his role as a member of the press to pursue a role in what he perceives to be social justice.

When you start playing judge, jury, and executioner in a social justice vigilante role, you had better make damned sure that you're background is squeaky fucking clean— but the side that you chose to back is going to have enemies on the opposite side who will stop at nothing to take you down in response.

The basis for your premise is wrong though. If Klepek was trying to get someone fired. That would in zero way make judge, jury, or executioner. He would be none of those things ( unless maybe he was their boss ).

He would be more like a noisey bystander or witness. Calling out the issue. The judge, jury, and executioner part would all three belong to the employeer. Which is why half the time these things get called out, nothing happens, because the employer doesn't see it as large of an issue.

 

[prag16]

Am I supposed to have cooties or some shit? What's this guy going on about?

The intentions behind the "I can't believe I'm saying this" bit seem.. potentially questionable. Not sure why that was needed. That said I'm not too familiar with this guy, so have no idea whether this is likely to be in good or bad faith.

 

[PedroPanache]

Am I supposed to have cooties or some shit? What's this guy going on about?

The dude wrote a tabloid-eqsue screed on NeoGAF on his blog. All it's missing is the sinister music underneath the text. It's very Daily Star in it uses of language and lingering insinuations.

 

[Cunth]

Who is Nick Monroe, and why is he not able to approach people himself?

 

[camelCase]

Those of us smack talking Klepek in this thread aren't tssk tssking him goofing off in college. Nobody really cares about that (not even the people who dredged up the dirt). But based on the pretentious virtue signaling asshole he has become, routinely judging the unwashed cretinous gaming community from on high, we ARE engaging a little bit of schadenfreude (similarly to how some of us have chuckled at Gunn's past use of that stick figure "free speech" comic in light of what happened to him recently). If he had stayed in his lane instead of actively lobbying to get another member of the gaming community fired from his job, this never would have happened to him. Karma's a bitch.

Oh so that's why everyone's hating on this cat. Welp, color me 2 enlightened.

 

[Scopa]

Am I supposed to have cooties or some shit? What's this guy going on about?

It's 1 of 2 reasons imo:

1: He has pontificated on what NeoGAF used to be like, which includes commenting about the you of the past at some point.

2: You and NeoGAF are persona non grata at the moment, so he is apprehensive about approaching you publically.

Either/or he should grow a pair and just act like a man.

 

[Viliger]

So he is that person, that I can only describe as soyboy, who instead of pressing B or whatever it is on PS4 controller, decided to close his eyes on softcore video in Yakuza 0. Good to know.

 

[brap]

So he is that person, that I can only describe as soyboy, who instead of pressing B or whatever it is on PS4 controller, decided to close his eyes on softcore video in Yakuza 0. Good to know.

The article that picture came from says he covered his eyes because he thought it might show him porn. Porn in a video game. Yup.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/bmdynz/stop-being-a-jerk-and-start-playing-yakuza-0

 

[oagboghi2]

The article that picture came from says he covered his eyes because he thought it might show him porn. Porn in a video game. Yup.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/bmdynz/stop-being-a-jerk-and-start-playing-yakuza-0

Not to go off topic but I was suprised at how much was shown in those "internet cafes" in the yakuza game I played. I think it was like 4 or something. I thought it would be a jpeg or something, but no it was the full on video.

glorious video

 

[Viliger]

The article that picture came from says he covered his eyes because he thought it might show him porn. Porn in a video game. Yup.
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/bmdynz/stop-being-a-jerk-and-start-playing-yakuza-0

Even if it was somehow porn, what is he, 10? Why would a grown man close his eyes when he sees porn? Not to mention I guess he was streaming the game, so he should be more concerned with showing questionable material on stream as oppose to seeing it himself. What a dumb cunt, holy shit.

 

[EviLore]

Jesus Christ I was interviewed about my sex life by a grown-ass man who shields his eyes from footage of attractive women in video games?

 

[oagboghi2]

Even if it was somehow porn, what is he, 10? Why would a grown man close his eyes when he sees porn? Not to mention I guess he was streaming the game, so he should be more concerned with showing questionable material on stream as oppose to seeing it himself. What a dumb cunt, holy shit.

Virtue signaling?

Jesus Christ I was interviewed about my sex life by a grown-ass man who shields his eyes from footage of attractive women in video games?

 

[TheWatcher]

I hope there is a special place in hell for people that weaponize social media to get people fired from their jobs. People are stupid enough to put their entire lives out there for everybody to see, but want only adultation and not criticism. No wonder mental health issues are rising throughout the western world. If you get off on stopping people from feeding themselves and their families you seriously deserve some harsh karmaic retribution.

 

[bitbydeath]

Jesus Christ I was interviewed about my sex life by a grown-ass man who shields his eyes from footage of attractive women in video games?

 

[SidViscous]

Loving how nobody else is even covering this story. Nobody wants to actually do journalism when it's one of their own in the wrong.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Loving how nobody else is even covering this story. Nobody wants to actually do journalism when it's one of their own in the wrong.

Yet they will complain about tribalism in every other facet. Ethics though!

 

[MC Safety]

Loving how nobody else is even covering this story. Nobody wants to actually do journalism when it's one of their own in the wrong.

It's only recently, due to the expansion of the Internet and the rise of the cult of personality, that game journalists becoming the story has been a thing.

I'd rather the focus be shifted back to the games and the people who make them. That's far more interesting than the bleary tale of the game journalist.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Jesus Christ I was interviewed about my sex life by a grown-ass man who shields his eyes from footage of attractive women in video games?

 

[JORMBO]

I haven't given any attention to gaming journalism since the EGM print days. They seem irrelevant today. I don't know who this guy is and can't really fault him for doing dumb stuff in college. It sounds like he is a douche for other more current reasons mentioned in this thread.

 

[DryvBy]

There's also a bitter irony here in reading several posters who regularly complain about teh evul SJW's and PC culture jumping down Klepek's throat for something he did in undergrad like, 13 years ago.... all the while failing to realize how this does not actually make him a hypocrite. All it makes him is a really bad person at the age of 18-21, but fuck it, I was a bad person at that age too.

Accusing Klepek as being a hypocrite for calling out Thorn is like accusing Gunn if he had called out Roseanne. The situations are not the same. Someone who was a bad person a decade ago but has since made a sincere effort to be a better person isn't comparable to someone who has been a bad person [or has just done some shitty thing] and either refuses or fails to stop doing it.

It would 100% be hypocritical if Klepek was still writing the shit that was in the OP today, or if he wrote it last week.... but he didn't. Would he jump down someone's throat for the same exact situation if they had been a right-winger? Probably, or at least he would have been tempted to [Walker or Zacny would probably have made him cut that shit out], but then again the "ANTI-SJW's!!!!" would probably try normalizing it as being completely acceptable in that situation.

But Pat's an awful person now. Getting people fired and campaigning such for their past (and present) is not an honorable thing. It's petty and horrible. Quit defending bad social behaviors.

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

Live by the sword of social justice,
Die by the sword of social justice.

 

[mckmas8808]

I'm loathe to defend this guy but.... that's just the way people were in the prior decade, everyone treated rape as a joke, everyone acted like an edgelord, it's just what was cool.

In fact this is one of the reasons why I've never liked SJWism and that's because so many of them are hypocrites, many these same people who talk a big talk about SJW topics a decade ago were making rape jokes along with everyone else, but once times changed they sucked it up and hopped on the bandwagon not because they genuinely believe it, but just because it's what's expected (Devin Faraci is another example of this)

Maybe this is what will finally cause people to move away from social media outrage.

Is it 1% possible that some of these people actually grew up and learned from their past mistakes?

 

[MayauMiao]

Is it 1% possible that some of these people actually grew up and learned from their past mistakes?

Klepek pretending to shield himself from a sexy woman scene in a game isn't being a grown up.

 

[yeahokaywhatever]

Klepek pretending to shield himself from a sexy woman scene in a game isn't being a grown up.

That's really embarrassing and made him look like a child. Sure, he may have learned from his past... but what he said on Waypoint was pussyfooting around his acts and not really an apology.

 

[llien]

There's also a bitter irony here in reading several posters who regularly complain about teh evul SJW's and PC culture jumping down Klepek's throat for something he did in undergrad like, 13 years ago.... all the while failing to realize how this does not actually make him a hypocrite. All it makes him is a really bad person at the age of 18-21, but fuck it, I was a bad person at that age too.

I don't think people should be losing jobs over silly crap like that.

On the other hand, I have no idea who this person was, and if he is the righteous virtue signaling zealot people in this thread claim he is, I see the other irony.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Klepek pretending to shield himself from a sexy woman scene in a game isn't being a grown up.

We've gone from the prudish religious right trying to get content creators to censor their products for the good of humanity, to the prudish political left trying to get content creators to censor their products for the good of humanity. It's just kind of sad.

 

[llien]

Is it 1% possible that some of these people actually grew up and learned from their past mistakes?

I'd call it "growing up, getting smarter, doing less stupid things" and I'd bet chances of that happening to people are close to 100%.
What differs from person to person is how silly the stuff was and whether what he/she did in the past makes him/her look like a hypocrite.

 

[mckmas8808]

Klepek pretending to shield himself from a sexy woman scene in a game isn't being a grown up.

Yeah that's is 1 billion percent stupid. I HATE with a passion when people do that stupid crap. It makes people that really care about women being treated fairly look like we are crazy SJW loons. And there's many points that Patrick has made over the years that are fair and good, but he ruins it by being an A-hole and a hypocrite.

Why deletes the 50,000 tweets?

 

[Nymphae]

There's also a bitter irony here in reading several posters who regularly complain about teh evul SJW's and PC culture jumping down Klepek's throat for something he did in undergrad like, 13 years ago.... all the while failing to realize how this does not actually make him a hypocrite. All it makes him is a really bad person at the age of 18-21, but fuck it, I was a bad person at that age too.

I don't think too many people here are calling for his head due to the content of these "jokes". It's that the guy goes after other people for their prior behaviour, while nuking his previous posting history to, what? Just do a little spring cleaning? He's hiding shit from the mob he helped rile up. Fuck him.

 

[DonF]

so has patrick responded oficially about this or he is just waiting it out ?

 

[Nymphae]

so has patrick responded oficially about this or he is just waiting it out ?

Respond to what? This neogaf thread? It's not news unless they make it news.

 

[Saturnman]

Why do people care so much about this?

 

[Cybrwzrd]

Why do people care so much about this?

Because hypocrites burn much brighter when they get roasted for being shitheads.

 

[DeepEnigma]

That's really embarrassing and made him look like a child. Sure, he may have learned from his past... but what he said on Waypoint was pussyfooting around his acts and not really an apology.

The only thing he learned from his past, was to not post that type of content on social media anymore. He is still acting every bit of an immature and vindictive little punk.

I don't think too many people here are calling for his head due to the content of these "jokes". It's that the guy goes after other people for their prior behaviour, while nuking his previous posting history to, what? Just do a little spring cleaning? He's hiding shit from the mob he helped rile up. Fuck him.

This. We do not care for his past endgelord shit. We care about him and his colleagues crusade to potentially ruin peoples lives, for the very same edgy bullshit.

 

[DonF]

Respond to what? This neogaf thread? It's not news unless they make it news.

I mean, not to this thread, but the twitter mob.

 

[Nymphae]

I mean, not to this thread, but the twitter mob.

I fully expect anyone who even mentions this to him on Twitter to be blocked.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Yeah that's is 1 billion percent stupid. I HATE with a passion when people do that stupid crap. It makes people that really care about women being treated fairly look like we are crazy SJW loons. And there's many points that Patrick has made over the years that are fair and good, but he ruins it by being an A-hole and a hypocrite.

Why deletes the 50,000 tweets?

I don't blame him for deleting tweets, based on what has been happening to people lately, but it's incredibly hypocritical to delete tweets and then go after someone for their tweets. As someone else suggested earlier in the thread, it seems Patrick Klepek deleted his tweets to protect him from people like Patrick Klepek.