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Of course, when you challenge the whole "1 in 3" stat on the basis of it being generated with a flawed methodology, they shirk it off. But actual crime data is apparently faked, somehow, or it just isn't their fault.

The Australian Human Rights Commission recently did a similar study to quantify sexual assault/harassment on Australian university campuses and included things like unwanted staring in the sexual harassment category. The survey was also opt-in, so the obvious biases associated with that were not accounted for. The results of the study which were something like 1 in 4 women on Australian university campuses are sexually harassed and 1 in 10 are sexually assaulted are now being used to justify more scare campaigns from the likes of White Ribbon and are influencing government policy. It's utterly frightening and anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows it's just not reality.
 
That's my perspective on things, but it's not like she ever stated the above as her agenda when she came on. While I don't agree with her stated reasons there, they seemed to be coming from a place of good intentions...for whatever that's actually worth these days, considering the followup. So I tried to deescalate, be polite, and end our interactions on a positive note. I cared about everyone on my team.



Thanks. The team and I are trying hard and putting in the work. All the hate and defamation spread in perpetuity now around takes its toll, though. I'm a human being.................. I'll just go back to staying off the Twitter cesspit.

We have our proper integration test server up for the major design update, btw, so that in its final stretch! And we're working on getting the mobile ad footprint under control, hopefully tomorrow with the ad tags from our new ad ops folks. And the politics split from off-topic is in the works. And even more moderation transparency (for some fuckin' reason; we're cray).

I don't meant to suck up to the boss here by saying this- but whatever soul searching you went though after what happened nearly a year ago has made you into a better person. You've earned my respect in how you are handling things.

Keep it up, this site has a future now.

If you ever get out to Atlanta, I'd love to buy you a beer.
 
I don't meant to suck up to the boss here by saying this- but whatever soul searching you went though after what happened nearly a year ago has made you into a better person. You've earned my respect in how you are handling things.

Keep it up, this site has a future now.

If you ever get out to Atlanta, I'd love to buy you a beer.

Cheers and likewise. I'm sure I'll be around those parts at some point. Any must-do music festivals around those parts?
 
They're so unreasonable. They want every communal space on the internet to share and broadcast their shared views on everything. It's not like people here dissuade ideologically differing people from posting or beg moderation for bans. I can enter a thread here and actually see two people with diametrically opposed views talk to each other -- that friction doesn't even occur on Era. What is all this bile and mean-spiritedness for? Look how snide they are in that twitter thread. What's wrong with talking reasonably with someone who doesn't share your beliefs?
 
Apparently a ResetERA user doxxed the employee behind the cyberpunk joke and they want him fired now.

Yeah. I think that's going to have consequences. If I were a game dev, I wouldn't touch that site with a ten foot pole.

Ladies of the world, do us a favor. If you catch your man doing stupid shit like doxxing over a tweet, withold sex until he shows some kind of normal behavior. It's the only chance we have left.
 
Yeah. I think that's going to have consequences. If I were a game dev, I wouldn't touch that site with a ten foot pole.

Ladies of the world, do us a favor. If you catch your man doing stupid shit like doxxing over a tweet, withold sex until he shows some kind of normal behavior. It's the only chance we have left.

You think doxxers could even get a woman? That dude is a basement-dwelling virgin, no doubt.
 
Amen to that. But then again, all of us are Nazi, alt righters. They told us so.

This kind of accusation from other forums was what made me check out GAF again, probably out of morbid curiosity. Invaded by the alt-right, a gamergater heaven they said. Admittedly I haven't been through every thread, but from what I've seen it's just a more varied discussion now with more views being represented. I don't understand how anyone could view that as a bad thing. I used to work in a warehouse with 15 other guys and I was the only one that voted Remain in the referendum and voted for Labour. They all thought I was an idiot but I enjoyed the (heated) discussions that we had. I would rather have that then slapping each other on the back looking to score cheap political points.
 
This kind of accusation from other forums was what made me check out GAF again, probably out of morbid curiosity. Invaded by the alt-right, a gamergater heaven they said. Admittedly I haven't been through every thread, but from what I've seen it's just a more varied discussion now with more views being represented. I don't understand how anyone could view that as a bad thing.

Definitely agree. It was way worse in the initial months after the exodus, but has gradually gotten back on track. There are some far right, extremists views for sure--but the outright bigots etc. get banned pretty quickly and those on the extreme are a minority (just a vocal one at times). The overall tone of political threads definitely skews right a bit just because some of the most frequent and vocal posters lean that way here currently (that could have shifted the past 2-3 weeks as I decided to just stay out of political threads on forums). But there's nothing wrong with that, given the quality moderation, and need to avoid having echo chambers. Also, the political compass thread shows more people who participated in it lean left--a lot of them are apparently just like me and totally or mostly stay out of political discussion.

A lot of people just have no interest in debate or even listening to the other side anymore. Be it the far left types on Era or the far right types on R/the_donald and other places. People are used to having curated social media feeds and sub-Reddits these days and only surrounding themselves with like-minded opinions and it's led to things being very tribal and everyone either being 100% with you or being the enemy. I don't have a lot of room to talk as I choose not to engage as I'm set in my ways and not interested in arguing/debating with the other side myself. But I at least don't vilify the other side or anything. I just don't have any more energy for arguing with random people online over politics (or anything really). Too much wasted time and energy being a keyboard warrior in my younger and dumber days. I'll spend my effort on real world things like voting, writing my reps etc.

They're so unreasonable. They want every communal space on the internet to share and broadcast their shared views on everything. It's not like people here dissuade ideologically differing people from posting or beg moderation for bans. I can enter a thread here and actually see two people with diametrically opposed views talk to each other -- that friction doesn't even occur on Era. What is all this bile and mean-spiritedness for? Look how snide they are in that twitter thread. What's wrong with talking reasonably with someone who doesn't share your beliefs?

Honestly, it's just that a huge portion of the most active posters over there have severe mental health issues. Mental Health GAF was a huge community and they all went over there and the "safe space" mentality of ERA has just drawn more in. In a sense that's great as people with problems need supportive communities. But there are a lot of those on the internet and it's a shame the most active gaming forum (GAF before and ERA now) suffered so much as a consequence of GAF and now Era becoming home to such a huge community of people with issues. I'm frankly glad there's not an active mental health community here anymore and hope it stays that way. Era is a great home for gamers with issues that want a game forum and mental health support group all in one. We don't need that drama here.

Cheers and likewise. I'm sure I'll be around those parts at some point. Any must-do music festivals around those parts?

Music Midtown (September) and Shaky Knees/Beats (April or May I think) are the major ones in Atlanta. The line ups are/were pretty lame for my tastes this year (ignoring Shaky Beats as that's not my scene so I can't speak to it).
 
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Yeah. I think that's going to have consequences. If I were a game dev, I wouldn't touch that site with a ten foot pole.

Ladies of the world, do us a favor. If you catch your man doing stupid shit like doxxing over a tweet, withold sex until he shows some kind of normal behavior. It's the only chance we have left.
Wait what? Like women can not be doxxers. Doxxing is not a matter of gender. Zoe Quinn also doxxed a trans person back in the gamergate days. Women can be assholes as well it is not gender specific.
 
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Wait what? Like women can not be doxxers. Doxxing is not a matter of gender. Zoe Quinn also doxxed a trans person back in the gamergate days. Women can be assholes as well it is not gender specific.

I don't think he meant it like that. Relax.
 
That's too bad...But, don't let it come to you, EviLore. I'm pretty sure that she will eventually realize it, but it might be never. I think it's time to move on. And when you say Aeana...Seems like she is here on Neogaf, but doesn't have her avatar anymore.
 
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Cheers and likewise. I'm sure I'll be around those parts at some point. Any must-do music festivals around those parts?

Depends on what you are in to. Sweetwater 420 Fest is good, same with Imagine, and Music Midtown.

Bonnaroo is only like 3 hours away too.
 
Honestly, it's just that a huge portion of the most active posters over there have severe mental health issues. Mental Health GAF was a huge community and they all went over there and the "safe space" mentality of ERA has just drawn more in. In a sense that's great as people with problems need supportive communities. But there are a lot of those on the internet and it's a shame the most active gaming forum (GAF before and ERA now) suffered so much as a consequence of GAF and now Era becoming home to such a huge community of people with issues. I'm frankly glad there's not an active mental health community here anymore and hope it stays that way. Era is a great home for gamers with issues that want a game forum and mental health support group all in one. We don't need that drama here.

I do wanna say that they mainly just post in their discord I don't see them posting too much in the other places.

If they have power trips on the forum I don't even want to imagine the moderation that goes on a Discord server

Honestly it's polar opposites since the people moderating the discords are not the same users doing the era moddding.
 
Good lord, it's like a modern day communist manifesto.

I was banned at least once on Era for insulting communists. If /pol/ is nazi germany, resetera might just be the USSR lol

And for all their shittalk abou capitalism, you get banned the moment you admit you pirated an obscure 25 year old SNES game whose developer has gone defunct. Like wut.
 
Haven't posted on GAF in a long time, but like others, the recent CDPR tweet pushed me to see how that was being handled on this site. Really is an insane difference. People being banned left and right on Era for simply not expressing the same views as the mods. (and obviously this isn't the first time) I don't even fully understand why threads on potentially sensitive topics exist since there's little to discuss. You either get in line or get out. The mods should just lock those threads, express their opinion on the matter, and not allow any further input since they clearly don't want to hear it. Absolutely embarrassing leadership.

I should visit GAF more often, refreshing to see some actual discussion with different opinions!
 
how long do you think that place will crumble to ashes? I give it 6 month. There's only so much ban baiting from excel and BCT that people can take.
 
Resetera is not going to crumble to ashes. There are plenty of people more than happy to post there and be a part of that community.
 
how long do you think that place will crumble to ashes? I give it 6 month. There's only so much ban baiting from excel and BCT that people can take.
Doubt it. From what people have said here, there are more than a few who like the strict authority moderation.
 
Haven't posted on GAF in a long time, but like others, the recent CDPR tweet pushed me to see how that was being handled on this site. Really is an insane difference. People being banned left and right on Era for simply not expressing the same views as the mods. (and obviously this isn't the first time) I don't even fully understand why threads on potentially sensitive topics exist since there's little to discuss. You either get in line or get out. The mods should just lock those threads, express their opinion on the matter, and not allow any further input since they clearly don't want to hear it. Absolutely embarrassing leadership.

I should visit GAF more often, refreshing to see some actual discussion with different opinions!
Welcome back. Hopefully you stay.

The main thing to remember here is that people have different opinions and people will not always agree with you on things. Some people who come back to here get frustrated when people won't agree with them after they present their argument. If you can accept people won't always agree with you, it is a good place for discussion.
 
Let me get this straight.

These people will believe that 1 in 3 women are sexually assaulted on US college campuses, but when a report comes out suggesting that unassimilated refugees commit rapes at a higher rate than Swedish citizens, that is when they start questioning how the statistics were generated?

Definitely off topic, but I just read something about this.

I think the study is 1 in 4. And I just read an interesting take on it. It is obvious that no one normal believes the 1 in 4 statistic. The Rape of Nanjing during the Japanese occupation of that part of China has the estimate at around 1 in 5 women were raped. At the time of the study sexual assault was commonly and legally understood to mean at least forceful sexual contact without consent, and in some states it is still a synonym for rape. So when that study came out, US colleges were worse than the Japanese occupation of China for women. Yet, parents and girls across the nation are desperately trying to get into that hell hole.

Why the disconnect? That study defined sexual assault to be basically any time a man makes a women feel uncomfortable in a sexual way. So a guy hitting on a gal in a bar is sexual assault. With that newspeak definition, I think the bigger story is that 75% of college women claim they have never been made to feel uncomfortable at college by a man, which would mean colleges are pretty damn safe.
 
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Welcome back. Hopefully you stay.

The main thing to remember here is that people have different opinions and people will not always agree with you on things. Some people who come back to here get frustrated when people won't agree with them after they present their argument. If you can accept people won't always agree with you, it is a good place for discussion.

That's how life works though, people have different thoughts/opinions and I expect that on a forum as well. I want to see different points of view, not the same thing regurgitated over and over. And I get it if someone is being blatantly ignorant/malicious, especially toward another user. But quite often on Reset you'll get genuine posts/thoughts that could potentially educate or encourage healthy discussion only for that person to be immediately silenced and banned. It's a very scary way of handling things.
 
What happened to the KF's ban bot that kept a record of all the bans other at RegressEra.
 
Never confuse Resetera with a "safe space", its more of an ideological pressure-cooker.

If it were a safe space, people there would be more relaxed than on the internet generally, but of course the opposite is true. Its an astonishingly angry and tense place, eternally hyper-vigilant for alt-right boogeymen both within and without. There is no respite, and regardless the incredibly ban-happy moderation staff, its not getting any better.
 
Resetera is not going to crumble to ashes. There are plenty of people more than happy to post there and be a part of that community.
Not to mention what happened here was a rather special case. It was sort of a spectacular shitfest of accusations, DDoSing, and a collective organization to take advantage of the opportunity.

Something like that doesn't happen often. It was kind of the perfect storm.
 
how long do you think that place will crumble to ashes? I give it 6 month. There's only so much ban baiting from excel and BCT that people can take.

It won't outright crumble, but I can see it going the Penny Arcade route where it's basically the same 7 users in every topic screaming at each other in a never-ending woke-off.
 
Resetera is not going to crumble to ashes. There are plenty of people more than happy to post there and be a part of that community.

Maybe not. But with hypocrite bans and witchhunts like this. The forum will be less taken serious and going the same route as gamesmedia.

It just make me angry. People get a ban just buying Cyberpunk and the guy who wants the destroy someones life gets no ban, also starting hiding himself and playing the victim. What a lunatic.
 
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To focus on a different community than ResetEra for once, here is my take on another site - Fark.com

The site was very popular with those on the libertarian right not too many years ago. Neil Boortz was a big fan back when he still had his Radio show, Drew Curtis the owner of the site even ran to be the governor of Kentucky a few years back as an independent. From what I understand, many talk radio shows used it as a quick way to find content to talk about in the days before reddit and digg, etc. Drew even penned a now, rather prophetic book on fake news in 2007, called "It's Not News, It's Fark: How Mass Media Tries to Pass Off Crap As News". Its a fairly interesting read actually.

The site used to be a bunch of people banting over news articles, some god awful political discussion, pictures of boobies (the site even had a spin off "foobies.com" for pictures of hot women for a couple of years), stupid/funny news, and copious amounts of alcohol fueled shitposting. It was fun, never too serious and had a pretty good culture and friendships were made. It was never all that toxic though.

Fast forward a few years, and things started to change during the later Obama years and more drastically around the 2016 election run up. The politics tab was becoming more radical left. More far left shit posting and more heated debate and toxicity, and now recently some threads are nearly as bad as ResetERA lunacy.

Why I bring this up, is that the moderation there too has become rather focused on protecting certain trolls. Usually left leaning trolls. I used to post on there quite a bit. Last night though something weird happened. There was a topic on Asia Argento, and I was involved in the discussion. It was a greenlit article on the main entertainment page.

The Headline was this "Ok ok, take 2. I did have sex with that minor, but HE assaulted ME. That's why I had my dead boyfriend pay him 350k. Or something? But it would be great if you kept feeling bad for me"

You can't read it now, right? The thread is now only available to those who subscribe for 5 dollars a month. A mod pulled it back, marking it as an inaccurate headline.

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The comment thread about it had well over 250 replies, and some good discussion about the how it could have related to the death of Bourdain, and the impact to the #metoo movement. Until the troll showed up. I got called out about a joke I cracked a few years go. This is the same troll who has stalked me through threads over there linking back to comments I made years prior regarding my hatred of Hillary, my support of Sanders. I threw back some shade, called him a troll, some meta commentary about moderation came up by some other posters, then my posts aimed at the troll were wiped, and the meta commentary and the comment section was closed to everyone but subscribers. It's creepy, and feels targeted, like it is a way to force me off the site without banning me. The troll isn't a mod, but very well could be an alt account with an agenda. Fark has some pretty hilarious instances of people getting caught as alts. I don't really reference my video game/NeoGAF posting over there, but something strange happened in his attack on me. I was called a "GamerGater". There was a bigtime pro-Hillary mod there too.

This all brings me back to that post I made earlier with that scary Soros linked David Brock memo. I used to be a very anti Hillary, posting both here and there about it. I eventually voted for her, but for awhile I was all about sending a fuck you message to her camp because of how Sanders was treated. I use the same username in both places. Makes you wonder.
 
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And someone who supposedly writes for The Daily Caller.
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ex-mod here Aeana has been shit-talking NeoGAF a lot recently. I don't follow twitter but it was brought to my attention, so I responded a while back. Context:



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And I left it at that. Fast forward to the latest:



I don't really take kindly to these sorts of accusations about the site, and Aeana seems to attribute it to herself being the pillar that was holding its virtue intact until she left. She barely modded at all. She was on formal warning at the time shit went down for unprofessional conduct. None of that hit her, though, because I took the fall and tried to keep everyone else clear of the angry mob, so I never named her and kept her out of the shitstorm. Forum moderation is hard. She seemed to try her best. etc.

This tweet is petty as fuck and disrespectful to the whole team working hard here to make NeoGAF a great discussion board despite the defamation and coordinated attacks by the people who went on to form resetera.

These comments from the reset hangers on.... do you think you're the good guys? You're not the good guys.

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Another interesting thing about Fark.com.

In October 2016, Google demonetized them for 5 weeks. Some algorithm flagged them apparently. Interesting timing.

This past October we suffered a huge financial hit because Google mistakenly identified an image that was posted in our comments section over half a decade ago as an underage adult image - which is a felony by the way. Our ads were turned off for almost five weeks - completely and totally their mistake - and they refuse to make it right.

The thread in question, which contained the image flagged by Google Policy, was originally posted back in 2010. The thread linked to an ABC.co.au article about a guy who was acquitted of charges of possession of underage material in Puerto Rico. He'd bought a pirated DVD in Venezuela and was busted by U.S. Customs because there was a picture on the cover that looked like she was underage (I'm certain this picture isn't the same as the image Google flagged, by the way). At the trial a child psychologist even testified that there was no way she could be an adult. Someone managed to locate the actress, however, who flew down and testified in person that she had been 19 years old at the time. He was cleared of all charges.
You can read about it here and the outcome in this blog post.

How Google farked, Fark.com
 
Since I was on the dev team they were added as admins for no reason other then a pull to get people to join. They wanted GAF "celebs" to entice people to join. They do nothing for the admin team. They never did and never will.

They tried getting Wario64 to exclusively post on there and he said he wouldn't even consider it.

I just want to add, they are pretty much stuck there now. The place is so vicious, if they even attempt to distance themselves they will feel the "wrath".

Why would your want your name even associated with it now as an industry professional not named Stinkles (his meltdowns are epic and I fear more so for Halo 6 (Infinite) story wise)? Especially after the no ban/warning doxxing, etc. is fully endorsed. The whole internet is taking notice of that shithole, not just gamers.
 
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I just want to add, they are pretty much stuck there now. The place is so vicious, if they even attempt to distance themselves they will feel the "wrath".

Why would your want your name even associated with it now as an industry professional not named Stinkles (his meltdowns are epic and I fear more so for Halo 6 (Infinite) story wise)? Especially after the no ban/warning doxxing, etc. is fully endorsed. The whole internet is taking notice of that shithole, not just gamers.
Oh yeah there's not a shred of doubt that they'd need to do something seriously insane to get out of the site now. I"m thankful that Wario didn't fall into that because it was a really bad idea to begin with.
 
Since I was on the dev team they were added as admins for no reason other then a pull to get people to join. They wanted GAF "celebs" to entice people to join. They do nothing for the admin team. They never did and never will.

They tried getting Wario64 to exclusively post on there and he said he wouldn't even consider it.
That Wario64 part is new for me.
 
theres any way for us to recover the gaming communities like the Steam Group (it has the ERA logo and says Pools Closed) or the Titanfall 2 Network (they changed the tag to DEAD)
 
theres any way for us to recover the gaming communities like the Steam Group (it has the ERA logo and says Pools Closed) or the Titanfall 2 Network (they changed the tag to DEAD)

I've been trying to get in touch with Valve to no avail so far, re: the Steam Group. Metalmurphy initially changed the NeoGAF steam group to a photo of me with a big red X through it during the witch hunt (plus some nasty commentary iirc), then locked it down to be unusable and redirected it to resetera. What a Good Person.

I was an admin on the group, so he locked me out before doing all that stuff. If anyone has any suggestions on how to un-fuck the situation, feel free. Thanks.
 
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I've been trying to get in touch with Valve to no avail so far, re: the Steam Group. Metalmurphy initially changed the NeoGAF steam group to a photo of me with a big red X through it during the witch hunt (plus some nasty commentary iirc), then locked it down to be unusable and redirected it to resetera. What a Good Person.

I was an admin on the group, so he locked me out before doing all that stuff. If anyone has any suggestions on how to un-fuck the situation, feel free. Thanks.

Oh dear...

Just ask him, why did he ignore you/remove your permissions. If he stills remember you, there's no point in continuing. But at least... Try to make a effort to tell him that you've changed.
 
I've been trying to get in touch with Valve to no avail so far, re: the Steam Group. Metalmurphy initially changed the NeoGAF steam group to a photo of me with a big red X through it during the witch hunt (plus some nasty commentary iirc), then locked it down to be unusable and redirected it to resetera. What a Good Person.

I was an admin on the group, so he locked me out before doing all that stuff. If anyone has any suggestions on how to un-fuck the situation, feel free. Thanks.

Oh, i will try to contact Valve and Respawn on behalf of the community to see if we can regain access back to these.
 
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