DeepEnigma
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Some Stockholm Syndrome going on up in hurrr!
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Yoshi
, I have conceded to the discussion.I don't think that definition fits, unless you try to imply there is a romantic element involved by either me or Yosh.
I doubt that this is the case. Right?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I don't think that definition fits, unless you try to imply there is a romantic element involved by either me or Yosh.
I doubt that this is the case. Right?
I mean, the person (Yosh) was banned from there, and yet still sticking up for their moderation practices with the wealth of data that goes agains the very fabric of those assertions.
They abused their "power" on him as well as many others, and one still wants to advocate... So...
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Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I don't think Stockholm syndrome is applicable here. I have no data that suggests my assessment from the previous posting is wrong. I mean, I sure am not happy about having been banned for what I have done there, but that does not mean I should treat them as complete nutjobs. Understanding motivation is also not the same thing as agreement. I have stated in how far I think their moderation goes too far (in other instances: Not far enough) and how I would have liked it changed, but when we are talking perfectly reasonable bannings, I see no reason to throw the moderation under the bus for that.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Even a brokem clock is right twice a day. Or once if one uses 24 hour.
They are batshit insane bruh, there is no shaking that.
dolabla
Member
Missed your post. Just read that thread.
Decent moderation? Lmao! I can't even imagine being that far gone. I mean there's a reason you and your board are the butt of jokes outside of it. "User Banned (permanent):" is basically a meme at this point.
I really wish they would let one of these GAF threads go on one day so we could see just how insanity filled it can get. The admin/mods kill the place as usual.
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Blam
Member
I wanna say it's the opposite, but their worst thing they grabbed about this thread was that we linked to the kf ban bot. They really have nothing left to grab off of us. Some of them even in that thread refuse to go on here to blind themselves that this place hasn't changed.
Do they understand that not just us. KF, Plenty of Discords, IGN, SomethingAwful. ERA has had discussions there and it's all about how bad it is. How are they so blinded to the fact that every other forum out there is consistently trashing them about how bad their site is.
It's huge stockholm syndrome. They are so blind to it they think they are the nicest looking person in the room looking like Brad Pitt, or for their own sakes and opinions probably Anita, but infact they look like Smeagol.
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
In a land of madness why would you still want to distinguish between the lesser and greater mad? They are mad, its as easy as that.
But, not every member in that land of madness is mad. An important distinction.
And the BanBot is bad. But if statistics are bad, then what are they?
There is only a mild case to argue in regards to how much data a bot really needs to prove a point, but that's a different discussion.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
In a land of madness why would you still want to distinguish between the lesser and greater mad? They are mad, its as easy as that.
But, not every member in that land of madness is mad. An important distinction.
And the BanBot is bad. But if statistics are bad, then what are they?
There is only a mild case to argue in regards to how much data a bot really needs to prove a point, but that's a different discussion.
I am not talking all members, I am specifically speaking about the moderation staff. If they claim they get together and agree on every ban as a consortium first, then yes, they all are insane jusdging by their outcomes and "thinking/worldview".
There are some great members over there, some slowly waking up, some getting over the addiction of establishing themselves into a forum where they have to constantly walk on eggshells.
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I was saying this in reference not to youDid you just assume my intent?
I will neve be allowed into a Riot Games panel.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
It is almost impossible that all moderation acts are discussed with the whole staff. In fact if they were, something like admin review would not be necessary at all. I would guess that normal moderators can issue bans up to a week on their own and for longer bans they need to contact one administrator to agree on the longer ban, where specific administrators are asked about specific topics.
Acerac
Banned
That still does not line up with the ban message. It certainly could be phrased better, but that does not change the wonkiness of the ban.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
A transmorphic laughing dog/sad baby does seem like a good fit for fragiles though..I will neve be allowed into a Riot Games panel.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
You play League of Lesbots? UNFRIENDEDI will neve be allowed into a Riot Games panel.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh god no. I never once tried any of the big name MOBAs. Tried Kill Strain once... once.
Blam
Member
WOW YOURE STARVING OUR DEVS TOO OF THEIR HARD WORK?????
dolabla
Member
Yep, their reputation is pure shit on many places. I've even seen them posted on a football board because of the meltdowns they have. I laughed when I saw that. They are the asshole of gaming forums.
JordanN
Banned
In a new thread about the witcher tv series.
I personally find it disturbing that the idea of shows having white casts is now being deemed offensive. Are all big budget TV shows going forward must be diverse? In the future, will there even be shows allowed that have a lot of white people?
I don't hate non-white people by the way. I'm just disturbed that making shows that feature a white cast is slowly being phased out. Imagine if TV shows in Japan were not allowed to have Japanese people. Or if shows in Kenya were not allowed to show native Kenyans.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ciri-in-netflix-witcher-series-probably-wont-be-white.67156/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...s-probably-wont-be-white.67156/#post-12379691
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ci...s-probably-wont-be-white.67156/#post-12379393
I personally find it disturbing that the idea of shows having white casts is now being deemed offensive. Are all big budget TV shows going forward must be diverse? In the future, will there even be shows allowed that have a lot of white people?
I don't hate non-white people by the way. I'm just disturbed that making shows that feature a white cast is slowly being phased out. Imagine if TV shows in Japan were not allowed to have Japanese people. Or if shows in Kenya were not allowed to show native Kenyans.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
These people are either astroturfing political shills or they need evaluation. Actually scratch that, if they're the former they still need it.
Imagine living your life thinking or being like this.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
"White" is a race not a nationality. So your examples are incorrect. It would be more like "Japanese shows not allowed to have Asian people" and so on.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Agreed, and I think that is what he meant.
eot
Banned
link?
Kacho
Gold Member
Pretty sure Shouta was one. He was posting in the NFL thread last night which was cool to see. I never interacted with him on old GAF and don't recall him being a nutter like other ex-mods so I'm assuming he's a normal, chill guy.
Edit: he's not a mod now actually
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Acerac
Banned
I don't even know how to express this but some of the things I've been dealing with from members of ERA are genuinely terrifying. I attempted to touch base with some old chats after being gone for a while and was downright shocked at the hostility and accusations that were levied at me. I basically have to write off 10 years of internet friends for my own safety and just... what the fuck is going on with this community? The more I see the clearer the picture gets and if my guess is accurate this place is going to get far more extreme before any other shifts are made.
I'm legitimately glad I was banned when I was.
I'm legitimately glad I was banned when I was.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
I sorry to hear that. Certainly hard to walk away from something you've invested in.
Acerac
Banned
The worst part was not understanding why people were acting the way they were; these were people I had talked with daily for years, I take a break for a bit after getting booted from ERA and I don't even want to repeat the things they claimed I did once I returned. As a member of these groups for years it kills me to admit it but I really feel that something is rotten at the core of this community. It's a damned shame how many people are getting taken advantage of thinking they are being supported when those who run the community only seem to want gather those who can be used as support for themselves. It's why I can only see ERA getting more extreme, viewpoints like that clearly do not foster inclusivity. Only now do I truly understand the metaphor of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
EviLore
- I now get why ponies needed to be in community. I trash talked that decision for literal years (they got the move REALLY early) and only now do I understand.My bad. You were absolutely right.
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DeepEnigma
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The worst part was not understanding why people were acting the way they were; these were people I had talked with daily for years, I take a break for a bit after getting booted from ERA and I don't even want to repeat the things they claimed I did once I returned. As a member of these groups for years it kills me to admit it but I really feel that something is rotten at the core of this community. It's a damned shame how many people are getting taken advantage of thinking they are being supported when those who run the community only seem to want gather those who can be used as support for themselves. It's why I can only see ERA getting more extreme, viewpoints like that clearly do not foster inclusivity. Only now do I truly understand the metaphor of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
My bad. You were absolutely right.
Can you elaborate on the bolded? I am a little lost, lol.
Legit saw a post in their thread discussing the riot firings, where a women was asking not to label the entire male sex as mysoginists who perpetuate sexism and the response was "how are they not banned yet"?
They're insufferable.
Acerac
Banned
The first two communities that were moved to the section when it was new were Pop-gaf and Pony-gaf. As a member of the latter at the time I thought it was exceedingly unfair to be singled out in that manner. In hindsight the groups who were moved were not good for the health of the site though it was very difficult to see as a member of the community. Hell, the more I look at it the more I question whether those groups are good for those who are involved... though at a certain point I'd rather take things to PMs.
If I hadn't gone through what I had with them, I wouldn't believe my own words in how it all went down. I legitimately don't want to get in to specifics because everything seems too insane to be plausible.
Tapioca
Banned
You can't just say stuff like this and then not tell the actual story. I don't think anyone knows what you are even talking about.?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Am I right in thinking PopVinyl and My Little Pony?
Papa
Banned
Do they still exist? I thought they left with the weirdos.
Acerac
Banned
*Laughs* I'm old as hell, that's what we called them at the time. It was MLP and pop music. These groups were exceedingly insular to a degree that they seemed to have fun at the expense of those who were not part of their niche. Eventually Lore decided that such insular groups shouldn't be in the middle of off topic discussion permanently (they were both perma-bumped) so the community forums were born! Could you blame us for thinking we were being purposely hidden?
I mean, we were. It was the right decision, but it is hard to see that when you are involved with one of these groups.
Long story short the more I see the more I learn the dangers of overly insular communities. Like I said, I'd prefer to keep details to PMs, all I'll say is that I am genuinely fucking frightened at how I am perceived now that I am a few months removed from ERA and my old communities. It is little solace to watch as the entire site seems to devour it's own and spit them out much as I was. Seeing those who I considered my friends being taken advantage of brings me no pleasure even if they are convinced that I have transformed in to a purely evil being coincidentally right after I was cast out of the group.
I mean, we were. It was the right decision, but it is hard to see that when you are involved with one of these groups.
Long story short the more I see the more I learn the dangers of overly insular communities. Like I said, I'd prefer to keep details to PMs, all I'll say is that I am genuinely fucking frightened at how I am perceived now that I am a few months removed from ERA and my old communities. It is little solace to watch as the entire site seems to devour it's own and spit them out much as I was. Seeing those who I considered my friends being taken advantage of brings me no pleasure even if they are convinced that I have transformed in to a purely evil being coincidentally right after I was cast out of the group.
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Kacho
Gold Member
Pop GAF were the people obsessed with divas. They'd show up together in random threads and spam sassy diva gifs. I don't think Evilore cared for them much iirc. Thy could be pretty annoying.
Pony GAF was grown men obsessed with My Little Pony but I don't remember anything about them.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So that explains all those damned "Did You Know Paris Hilton (or insert Diva Pop Star) is a Gamer?", etc., weird threads that read like straight up like PR for stars on ReeEra when it launched. Makes total sense now.
Edit: Paris Hilton was a very avid gamer back in the day.
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Shmunter
Member
What did you do to get cast out in such a spectacular fashion?
Acerac
Banned
Airing of dirty laundry. I can't disagree with the booting, I just didn't realize at the time who knew who, or how important that would be. There are some communities that seem to have significant influence on the site.
I mean, if you want to be technical about it I was banned for asking what was happening, because they let me post for a week after my (admittedly misinformed and poorly handled) thread and only once I followed up on an earlier conversation with the administration to inquire about the situation where I immediately received the perma. It was so odd from my perspective, they just told me they were gonna follow up and didn't do so I was kind of curious on the situation. I asked and they answered with the axe. fwiw I'd never so much as received a warning on the site and I think in my decade+ at GAF I may have had as much as a single ban that wasn't overturned.
If only I had known then what everyone seems to know now, asking ERA staff about things gets you banned.
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Fun comparison, a while later I made a similar thread here and the mod locked it and told me to stop being such a douche. Funny how the permaban had me desperate to talk about it elsewhere where a mod locking the thread and saying "Don't be an asshole" makes me just step away from the situation for a couple months and reflect. Perhaps people who have shown that they typically have a level head who are acting irrationally about a situation just need a reminder, while a more extreme punishment given to somebody searching for help just makes them more desperate. I can't help but admit that the post that put everything together for me was on this site, and I damn sure would have never seen it if I had believed the bullshit ERA spits out about this place on a daily basis.
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Chittagong
Gold Member
Sup fellow Gaffers!
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Wow. Talk about a tease : )
TheSadRanger
Banned
Pop-Gaf was alright as long you were on the right side of history and declared Taylor Swift the Queen of all things.
Rihanna is an acceptable substitute.
Acerac
Banned
I could write a damned novel about what has happened with my life and this group over the past few years.
Support is very important for people who are in pain. Those who pretend to offer support purely for their own gain are... *Sigh* best not worried about if one wants to live a happy and successful life, even if they have hurt those you treasure above anything else.
Sorry for the incomplete stories, I could just see this quickly turn in to a thread about me and I don't feel that would be helpful for anyone. I'd be happy to answer further questions by PM but given all that has happened I do not feel that this is the correct place to get in to everything.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
No worries. You tell your story when you want, to who you want.
Just friendly jabbing at you
TheSadRanger
Banned
Harrison Ford is the only true Jack Ryan in my mind. Not Jim from the office. Patriot Games is still #1.
If anything Clancy can be criticized for being a boring writer. I don't need a whole chapter divulging the specifics of how a missile system works.
He's like how Martin overly describes fruit where with Clancy it's missiles instead.
Acerac
Banned
Friendly jabs often have truth to them, no offense taken.
I just had to express the euphoria of being out of that nightmare, you know? The last 2 years have just been a downward spiral and only once I am free does everything seem to make sense. Kinda funny how it took somebody I had never heard of before insulting me with such vigor to understand exactly what had happened.
Be wary of those who appear to be the most friendly.
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