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Arkage
Banned
Where did you hear about this?
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Gottat type faster!
That, and I'm always stuck in front of my computer.
This creation of a new forum (after the creation of ERA) stirs up the following thought:
Zealots don't create. They invade. A zealot won't even follow their own rhetoric to the letter. They just "cut down" the ideology until it fits their attention span. It'd be like calling yourself an Alinskyian and constantly quoting select passages from "Rules for Radicals" but basing it all on a few photocopied pages, not the whole book. It'd be like calling yourself a Christian while holding a "God Hates Fags" banner. The Alt-Right takes Nazi rhetoric (a fully-formed economic, ideological, and racial outlook) and cuts out all the "uninteresting" pieces and just uses the Racial Supremacy parts. The Extreme Left takes Communist rhetoric and does the same hack-job to bring us "Identity Politics".
Why do I bring this up?
Because ERA was very much a "cutting down" from GAF. It is the parts they liked and none of the "icky", but also none of the nuance or breadth of opinion. If this MetaCouncil is a real thing, it'll be yet another "cutting down". Or, another term that is used is a "safe space". A granite tomb, a remote forest, a boat, or a hundred-thousand other locations are far superior "safe spaces" than the middle of a campus. It's not about safely. It's about marking territory. Actual safety on campus is, of course, a genuine issue. Universities should patrol their campuses far better than they do now. They should crack down on parties. There are plenty of options, but what the zealots do is take this issue and conflate it to "I need a physical location that is protected from things I don't want to hear and people I don't want to be around, but I still expect all the amenities and conveniences of a populated campus".
Like I said, zealots don't create. They just piss all over like a dog marking its territory and glare at you when you don't "respect their experience".
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Sounds way more dramatic than what it actually was (an allegation).
However, based on their own history they sure have issues with facts, or proper conversational skills, for that matter.
Again their views are based off of Oct 17. That's all they care about.
Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.
That place loves to assume.
Guess who will get fucked up in the future.
Is that the name of the forum by Infamous-around-the-web user Cream?
Edit: so MetaCouncil looks like OldGAF by its policy, except without staff. Seems a little too leninent on the goodwill of its users imo.
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captainraincoat
Banned
Wow...did you notice the logo....era has a left pointing arrow ...meta has a right pointing arrow
I think gaf needs to get their own arrow which points upwards
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
captainraincoat
Banned
What was the metacouncil meant to be??...is it another safe space for extreme left or is it simply to get rid of mods/personal opinions
Their tos are pretty much a carbon copy of eras....the only difference is that era doesn't follow it's own rules
Their tos are pretty much a carbon copy of eras....the only difference is that era doesn't follow it's own rules
JordanN
Banned
It looks like another communist hellhole.
No mods or admins. We're all equal guys! What could go wrong?
Mochilador
Member
Shpeshal Nick
is in there, he's a good guy.There is even a twitter bot: https://twitter.com/MetaCouncil
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SirKicksalot
Member
The Mad Draklor
Member
This is effectively mob rule. No thanks.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I don't ger the analogy. I have read the whole bible and Yahweh's disdain for (male) homosexual sex is pretty consistent throughout the book.
captainraincoat
Banned
When you have groups of people on discord basically hunting in packs reporting users you can see straight away that it's not going to work....the tos mention nothing about the types of opinions that would be permitted in detail...to some people a person who wont date a lady with a penis could be seen as transphobic even if the person fully explained their reasons and would pretty much be mobbed if that system existed on era.
It's a social justice warriors paradise
Typhares
Member
I wouldn't say a lot but the bunny costume and puff puff are recurent jokes yes.
royox
Member
Brilliant idea. Will definitely last.
Can we try this "8 reports = delete" rule here for like a week to see what happens?Pure scientist curiosity xD
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ILLtown
Member
https://www.resetera.com/threads/er...where-gaf-was-a-year-ago.69563/#post-12847600
Many of the people who frequent ResetEra are insufferable cunts, but apparently libel is OK to be posted over there too now.
I know some of the folks in that thread IRL. Disappointing so see some of them not batting an eye at that kind of talk. Non, saying it to my face, bloody fucking likely. Have yet to hear word one.
Say it to my face, Jason. Oh, guess not? You're busy hitting on the girls in my entourage and failing spectacularly. They had a great laugh about your efforts with my dick in each of their mouths. #tesetera #therecameanecho #5.9
JORMBO
Darkness no more
I predict an empty forum.
Papa
Banned
Ours is kinda like yin and yang.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
To be fair, they hardly had any time to react. Between the statement and the closure lie five minutes.
prag16
Banned
You claim you're not an era apologist or sycophant or what have you, but "to be fair" they're justified in continuing to claim that Evilore is unequivocally a rapist? Come on man. You're better than this.
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SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
Jesus son
Cybrwzrd
Banned
JordanN
Banned
It's easy to get riled up about how can people on Resetera exists. Like the ones who clearly make up lies about rape and have no inch of empathy in their body.
But you know what? I've seen these types of people in real life, and they just amount to nothing. They're not successful. They can only hate so much because their lives are devoid of any meaning.
They're not the ones with enough clout to even run for President or CEO. They're closer to parasites who can only leach off other people while calling them bad names. Instead of getting angry, just laugh at them.
It hurts THEM, when people are not worshiping them. Make them feel like shit instead, by reminding them they've achieved nothing in life.
But you know what? I've seen these types of people in real life, and they just amount to nothing. They're not successful. They can only hate so much because their lives are devoid of any meaning.
They're not the ones with enough clout to even run for President or CEO. They're closer to parasites who can only leach off other people while calling them bad names. Instead of getting angry, just laugh at them.
It hurts THEM, when people are not worshiping them. Make them feel like shit instead, by reminding them they've achieved nothing in life.
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Rock And Roll
Member
I like how any of those threads trying to address the growing problems of that site are promptly shut down with a "talk to the mods" message. I'm sure the moderation team takes these concerns very seriously and don't just sweep it under the rug behind the scenes
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
There is even a twitter bot: https://twitter.com/MetaCouncil
Thanks. Really.
I feel far less anonymous than I did before reading this post.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Cerium did not put that up with "good faith" intentions, he put that shit up to line his pockets through the traffic; taking advantage of and helping orchestrate the fallout here. And I am sure there are a few in on the take. This is why some of those well known people in the industry that are "admins" would do better to distance themselves, unless they are getting a cut as well.
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Papa
Banned
Sounds like a personality disorder.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
That place will be a shitshow.
Most coordinated dogpile rules.
Most coordinated dogpile rules.
Whitecrow
Banned
And there's more that dont use to participate in forums.i'm still quite convinced a majority of "people" on era are bots. It...it can't be possible there are so many people like that in this world.
Also
Media and social networks created a lot false and unrealistic expectations for our lives, and frustration and stress levels in society increased a lot, producing full generations of mentally ill people.
Those who cant assume that they are victims of internet dehumanization will try to fix their lives pointing to the wrong problems.
One of the illness that surfaced with internet and social networks is the 'I need to be in the net in order to exist/be someone'.
People need exposure like drugs. And exposure is everything for some people. Doesnt matter the way to get it.
If you dont accept the problem in time, you are done for, and you end up in Era.
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Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I wasn't talking about Era here, but about Evilore's friends / acquintances who barely had a chance to react to the insulting posting. I have no idea where you read anything about Resetera as a whole out of that.
prag16
Banned
Okay, I slightly misread the intent of your post. You were commenting on people not having time to push back against the "rapist" charge before the thread got locked, not defending the comment itself or people who are fine with it. Either way this still goes in the "Era apologist" column. Just not as egregious an example as I originally thought. But my bad on the misinterpretation.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Lionel Richie
Member
More like BetaCouncil amirite.
tkscz
Member
So in the news this morning, a woman has gone into a rite aid distribution center and has shot and killed 3 people. I was going to make a thread here and try to find a news site to post, first one I saw was NYTimes and noticed that, while all TV news says woman, the NYTimes just says person and I know when a man has done the shooting, they immediately say man. Why was the first thing to come to mind is, "Someone from ERA wrote this didn't they". Is that wrong of me?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Someone from the school of Trudeau.
Papa
Banned
She's a woman so she is somehow the victim.
Acerac
Banned
They have the best discussions you can have if only one side of an argument is respected.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Ofcourse not. Heck, this was readily apparent in the early days of this thread where ERA members would take a swing here and then never take a mature stance after their points were rebutted.
That's how it works. Fire-and-forget, instead of actually acting like a damn adult and concede appropiately. For all the projecting ERA does, they are absolutely terrible at self-reflecting.
May i suggest sending a truck full of mirror's when they hit their 1 year milestone? Its a subtle hint enough that can't possibly be considered offensive, unless looking at yourself is somehow damning to The Names..
Would it have made any difference if the thread stayed open for an hour or so? All that would garner is users posting clueless hot takes, like the one that got Tyler to a comment on it.
Regardless, some of the users still had enough time to make a comment that details the disinterest in GAF. Yet, they are still interested enough to spit on it, with the dishonesty that came from it.
Its getting kind of boring to read this method of softening what is said and applying similar measurements to bans. Its getting close to defending those that clearly never would pick a defense, rather preferring an attacking point of view.
BetaIncel also has a nice ring to it.
Its by the way funny how former staff EatChildren is essentially advocating for context on a tweet that said ''Ill fucking kill you'' but isn't getting the support he was hoping for when the majority of the posters are not on his end, similar to how the CyberPunk tweet was taken so abrasively.
Well, aside the usual suspects who now suddenly advocate for context regarding his tweeet but who had no issues condemning the aforementioned CP2077 tweet and bring in their own personal situations to win a pissing contest, because stating that suicide is not a joke is apparently offensive. And then goes into baiting after being triggered himself. Because context matters in this case. Right guys?
Also in other news: Teens are protesting in-class presentations. Apparently, its rather damning that kids are forced to do their presentations in front of others, citing anxiety issues. and how it is ''discriminatory to those with anxiety, demanding that teachers offer alternative options.'' But let this ex-GAFfer tell you that its about people with diagnosed anxiety and not nervousness and that you should read the article - Where this is only cited in one of 20+ alinea's.
I considered making this a seperate thread but i think it fits right here. Another case of getting offended over common things.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
I think that it is indicative of a certain confirmation bias wrt "Resetera apoligism". However, I must commend you for admitting to the misunderstanding. I did not feel it important to state in howfar the statement of the Resetera member was inappropiate, but to give you a clearer picture of my position on that: There are two issues with the statement, which are equally problematic to me, but when it comes to consistency, only the second is something that I would expect the person to respect as an issue.
(1) It is not OK to take allegations for a fact, we have courts for that.
(2) Even assuming Evilore is autmatically guilty, the accusation is not one of rape, but merely sexual harrassment, since he, according to the account of the accusant retreated upon rejection and there was no sexual intercourse.
There also is one thing that I might add which is not an issue with the rape point per sé but one with consistency. It was long well-known and publically stated by Evilore himself how he mistreated another woman at a bar. I would assume that both misdemeanors are pretty similar. While the uninvited assgrab may have less severity on its own when compared to coming nude into the shower, the person who Evilore allegedly got into shower with was much closer to him, so from my perspective at least, both stories are pretty similar in severity, context considered. Since no one seemed to have cared for the older, well-known incident (outside of Gamegate people that is) it is hypocritical to leave the forum because of new very similar allegations. Note that the prior incident was confirmed by Evilore to be true and he did not appear to have a bad conscience about it, so an argument of the kind "well, but he said he knew it was wrong, so I was shocked to hear it is actually a pattern" is invalid. Therefore, I think it should be irrelevant whether the second allegation is true, with the first one being confirmed and not something Evilore said to feel bad about, it is hypocritical and inconsistent to me that peopl abandon the forum because of the allegations.
Ribi
Member
Their arguments are so good that everyone not banned at the end of them agree with each other.
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