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Are there protests planned? Please tell me America is coming out in full force and anger on Washington. I wanna go to the US. embassy here in Sweden and chuck fucking bricks marked with "Rapists!" at it. God I am pissed...

A riot plan by mostly young white teenagers (highest probability of riot cops going soft) should have been enacted the moment Trump was announcing his nomination.

I am so tired of men. They abuse, assault and rape us and yet are rewarded for it. The patriarchy at work and as it is with every oppressive systems it has some people of an oppressed class buy into it and thus help to sustain it.

How the fuck are people not pouring into the streets right now and not shutting the entire country down

Every republican supporter out there is a piece of shit, fuck each and every one of you. Burn in a fire, along with your orange fuhrer.
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The hits just keep on coming from that thread. There's too much gold to mine and I'm so far back in the thread.
 
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Have any Ree posters disowned their family members yet over this Kavanaugh stuff?

That's usually one of the things you see in times like these.
 
No its considered trolling because its trolling. His thread and comments in that thread are clearly designed to illicit a reaction. He is baiting people into responding to him. You can't do that. Doesn't matter who you support. And like I said this is not the first time that he has done this.
Sure you can. Here is one. Or this one. Both by the same user. They aren't malicious, but they are spam threads either way.

There are multiple people on ERA who spend most of their forum life baiting others. You literally cannot act coy and say this behavior does not exist when there are multiple people who do this, daily.

Then again it also amazes me that your tone towards the more debateable bans is always in favor of The Names. Last i checked ERA was not selling shares from its LLC, so i don't see why you do this.

Trump supporter for posting pro-Trump video and comments gets banned (duration pending).

Moderator of REEEE supporting the murders of white babies and generally white genocide, still a mod!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fr...-hang-white-people.71646/page-6#post-13234030

Can you notice the hypocrisy there, or you are just going to re-state that we should believe you and not our own eyes?
This was posted before. Also contains a few other nuggets from this prominent member in good standing. ;)

I reckon that any application form for ERA staff has only one point:
  • Will you strive to a be a contrarian, where your views run opposite towards the enemy of the forum proletariat known as IRL and you hereby swear to uphold this truth to the end of your days, or until your own posts become problematic? Yes/no.
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This is what you get when people with actual mental issues are given the safe space to run these terrible comments (And contrary to more harmless posts, never get actioned). As said here, ''What this whole story actually revolves around is that people with geniune issues are trickled into this safe space and get all the freedom to call out and be aggressive against others, when really, the focus should be on helping these users get the help IRL that they need, instead of creating a safe space for unresolved trauma's. All they are achieving with providing that space is that people with geniune issues feel less inclined to seek proper care, after all, they have a forum where they can speak their minds to, instead of the (proper) therapist they should do so.''

This also counts for their Mental Health thread. There is so many terribly depressive posts out there that you would think that ERA's focus would be more on helping them rather than advising them. Some others are just endlessly proclaiming how they hate life. Its these posts, i feel, where the inclusion of a ''safe space'' is actually damaging the most. Instead of getting proper care beyond seeing a psych (You know, community care), ERA just lets these bleak souls post their desires for ending life and infinite darkness. Its almost as if their target is more on banning everyone that disagrees with the Parteisprache than actually contributing to a positive outcome by helping/listening to these tormented souls.

Some food for thought, even though most of this post is satire, i am actually serious with this bottom part.
 
I don't support what that mod said so not sure why you are throwing that at me to be honest. I have admitted many times now that Era has many MANY flaws.

Because you're so quick to condemn anyone on your opposing political side but when it's from someone on your own side, you either outright ignore it or pay lip service with a simple one liner along the lines of "yep this is bad let's move on". What's worse is you're not even saying it to genuinely condemn the action; you're saying it so that you can point back to it as an example to worm your way out of the situation if anyone ever calls you out. Such a dishonest, disingenuous person. Good lord.
 
How is it that liberals are the ones always accused of playing the "victim card" when you guys constantly think that anyone and everyone is trying to shut you down solely due to your political beliefs. It blows my mind.


The guy made a bait thread and filled it with bait posts. And he has done it before. He broke the rules. Its not like I am saying the mods have never banned someone for supporting the GOP or the userbase has never reported someone for supporting Trump before. I know its happened, but here they had a perfectly good reason to ban the guy. And his history of doing it played apart in that.
Banned arguing in bad faith; history of similar posts.
 
Because clapping is offensive or smh. But support for the 24,999 poster (As of this moment) is waning as a rare warning is issued on a staffers behalf for trolling.
Interestingly, I do not agree with the warning. It was a pretty harmless sarcastic remark, especially when compared to other aggressive postings by the same user. I do not think this should warrant a warning.
 
Because you're so quick to condemn anyone on your opposing political side but when it's from someone on your own side, you either outright ignore it or pay lip service with a simple one liner along the lines of "yep this is bad let's move on". What's worse is you're not even saying it to genuinely condemn the action; you're saying it so that you can point back to it as an example to worm your way out of the situation if anyone ever calls you out. Such a dishonest, disingenuous person. Good lord.
I think that your assessment is not fair and not well-justified. Considering the current climate around here, leaning very heavily right, it is not necessary to go into detail why a certain aggressive left-leaning post is inappropiate or why a Resetera moderation action is too strict - a lot of people do this either way. The opposite position is pretty underrepresented and necessitates more arguing, because there won't be many to have given your arguments in advance already. Nobody_Important Nobody_Important 's posting behaviour here puts an emphasis on the points where he does not agree with the large majority opinion here and does not give long arguments for things that are more or less consensual around here. This is reasonable posting behaviour from my perspective.
 
I think that your assessment is not fair and not well-justified. Considering the current climate around here, leaning very heavily right, it is not necessary to go into detail why a certain aggressive left-leaning post is inappropiate or why a Resetera moderation action is too strict - a lot of people do this either way. The opposite position is pretty underrepresented and necessitates more arguing, because there won't be many to have given your arguments in advance already. Nobody_Important Nobody_Important 's posting behaviour here puts an emphasis on the points where he does not agree with the large majority opinion here and does not give long arguments for things that are more or less consensual around here. This is reasonable posting behaviour from my perspective.

By all means, present dissenting opinions, but do so honestly and not just to toe a party line.
 
I think that your assessment is not fair and not well-justified. Considering the current climate around here, leaning very heavily right,

Since when the climate here leans "very heavily right"?

As it is now, the forum tries to stabilize and balance itself as a center were both opinions are heard, but not endorced.
 
Since when the climate here leans "very heavily right"?

As it is now, the forum tries to stabilize and balance itself as a center were both opinions are heard, but not endorced.
Since when? Some point (shortly) after the migration of a substancial part of the community to Resetera. Note that I am not talking about the moderators here, they are reasonably neutral in that regard. I am just talking user base. I would also like to add that being right does not necessarily mean I do not value the poster, there are quite a few right-leaning posters here who I certainly enjoy debating with. But the big majority of the forum is pretty heavily right-leaning right now. As evident especially in this thread and discussions about
- guns
- religion
- taxes
- republicans
- lgbt issues
- nazism
- socialism
- health care

By all means, present dissenting opinions, but do so honestly and not just to toe a party line.
I feel that Nobody_Important Nobody_Important 's position is authentic and he is arguing honestly here. He is also pretty consistent in his postin behaviour, so I see no reason to claim he is dishonest at all. In fact, if people want the forum to be neutral they should be very happy we have a user that likes to discuss all those political issues with such a huge "opposing front". It is not acceptable to always reduce reactions to him to ad hominem attacks.
 
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Staying at Rehoboth beach over night. Didnt bring a bathing suit or extra shirt..

Only pair of swim shorts I could find in the discount rack my size were a pair of stars and stripes flag ones..

And I found this shirt for $10..

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Wish me luck...I'm gonna get drunk and try not to get attacked by leftist Nazis lol
 
Staying at Rehoboth beach over night. Didnt bring a bathing suit or extra shirt..

Only pair of swim shorts I could find in the discount rack my size were a pair of stars and stripes flag ones..

And I found this shirt for $10..

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Wish me luck...I'm gonna get drunk and try not to get attacked by leftist Nazis lol
That's actually a badass shirt. Something i would want to have myself.
 
I consider myself the epitome of a human being, I am the Human no other is like me. So from now on no one else can use the word human it is my word now.


People who say words can only be said by a specific race are the first motherfuckers to say "white people..."
 
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No its considered trolling because its trolling. His thread and comments in that thread are clearly designed to illicit a reaction. He is baiting people into responding to him. You can't do that. Doesn't matter who you support. And like I said this is not the first time that he has done this.


Also I know for a fact he was previously banned for a week for his comments on the subject of transgender individuals. So he is likely to be banned for longer than a week or maybe even permed. So when the ban message talks about his posting history or his history of behavior it is referring to that.
Considering I've seen you do nothing but defend that place, I think it's more than safe to assume that you're some kind of viral marketer or just flat out trolling.
 
This is essentially something i referenced yesterday, here. In the early days of ERA i tried to adher to their transparent policy, which (in my eyes) meant holding a open view towards issues: What is (likely) right, might be wrong aswell. I remember how i tried to iterate this in the beginning days regarding these matters and yet got shunned at because people doubted that #metoo victims would exaggerate their stories or make them up. Or in the very least its not that wide spread (No pun intended.)

And likely it is not, but we can also not ignore that #metoo has also given some people a dangerous weapon to use that could ruin people's lives. This is why i say that cases need to be discussed on a deeper level than what you see happening now.

Just lack back then you get piled upon for holding the line of transparency. I didn't get warned or banned for it though, so its interesting to see how this line of thinking now is worth a ban. It is bothersome. If we are to expect everything at face value and never question anything or show curiosity, what does that make us then?

If i had believed ERA, i would have thought that Chloe Sagal died at the hands of sites like this one, Kiwi, and Voat. When reality paints a far more morbid picture that ERA refused to discuss about.

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  • Advocating murder/implying death upon others/violence might be a permaban for one, 2 weeks for someone else (Which isn't even a direct threat like the 3 day one), nothing for others, and just 3 days for this dood. Also, saying all the members of the Senate ''deserve cancer''? Not even worth a warning. The shaky, erratic nature of ERA staff in action.
  • Speaking of the permaban one, this user is seriously disturbing as his ban gave him enough reason to kill himself in his own words and that its his blood that is on their hands. Imagine that a permban at this forum is enough to make you consider suicide. :goog_neutral: As of yet, he has yet to put the deed with the word (thankfully) but user is still instigating and threatening this stuff over and over. It does represent a point that is worth bothering over: It shows that if you threaten with suicide and let them know by tweet or PM The Names about it, they don't contact any authorities. :goog_unsure: Now The Names are no stranger to banning suicidal people for Transphobia when they are Trans themselves but you would think there is some kind of obligation to take these threats seriously.
  • A scientist who is suspended for making a sexist talk sees one ERA user making a bluff that is typical around this place: ''If i ever cross him on the road i can finally punch someone with good reasons!''. Shock meets awe when the brother of scientist actually comes up and invites him to put his money where his mouth is. A moderator edited the post to remove personal information, but the scientist's brother was happily inviting him to put this user's words into action. This is Dr Phil levels of entertainment. Why pick ERA out of all places to call someone's bluff? Regardless, the user who made the threat of punching the scientist (Somehow that's not even worth actioning?) never acted on his complaints, which was noted by others. Fortunately for him, a mod saves his day by locking the thread, ironically the same mod that called the scientist a dumbass because that's how you make thoughtful posts regarding any topic. :goog_rolleyes: If anything, this is one of those rare events where making a hollow threat to violence should have been rightly called out, especially when you openly claim to live in the same area as the accused scientist. As the brother, i would want to talk to you personally aswell for making such a careless comment. But nobody on ERA thinks this, or condones the fact that this user made a threat, which is totally actionable as shown in point 1 here above. Once more, the erratic nature of ERA in action.
  • A known sollicitant for The Names and Little Helpers wants you to say something nice to another member. Gee, who would he pick? It certainly cannot be the usual suspects with 25.000 posts this user loves to kiss ass to! Ironic: Literally only two people mentioned him for positivity, and one of them was Dennis from GAF times sake. That thread reads like a ERA Most Wanted list of people you would want to throw on the ignore.
  • Lastly, ERA thinks we are a cesspool of white people because of the Kavanaugh thread we have here. Good thing they removed that link to avoid cross-forum drama. ;)
Interestingly, I do not agree with the warning. It was a pretty harmless sarcastic remark, especially when compared to other aggressive postings by the same user.
Given the intent, i think there is more to it than just that post. Its not harmless at all. Ofcourse, the warning is a severe misstep by this staff member: Most people are aware that Sheet (Lets name this user like that) has Tony Stark levels of protection around the place given how a meltdown ensued when Sheet got banned for a full 20 mins a month ago. Only Purple Thanos (Cerium) could expel Sheet, and that's never going to happen.
 
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Given the intent, i think there is more to it than just that post. Its not harmless at all.
In how far do you think it is not harmless? Excelsiorlef makes fun of
(1) The notion that the sensibility of the social justice movement is driving moderate left leaning people to the right
(2) The perceived hypocrisis of right-leaning (or moderate?) people when complaining about an outrage culture on the left when they get riled up about issues like the clapping here all the same.

In that sense I feel this posting is harmless, because this sentiment is justifiable and expressing it in a sarcastic way may be considered trolling, but it is a viable comment on the issue at hand all the same. Note that I have commented negatively on the ban on clapping here, so I do not share the opinion of Excelsiorlef in that regard, but I still think it is within the perimeters of normal discourse that shouldn't be prohibited.
 
In how far do you think it is not harmless? Excelsiorlef makes fun of
(1) The notion that the sensibility of the social justice movement is driving moderate left leaning people to the right
(2) The perceived hypocrisis of right-leaning (or moderate?) people when complaining about an outrage culture on the left when they get riled up about issues like the clapping here all the same.

In that sense I feel this posting is harmless, because this sentiment is justifiable and expressing it in a sarcastic way may be considered trolling, but it is a viable comment on the issue at hand all the same. Note that I have commented negatively on the ban on clapping here, so I do not share the opinion of Excelsiorlef in that regard, but I still think it is within the perimeters of normal discourse that shouldn't be prohibited.
You are aware of Sheet's track record, do you?

I am just asking this in advance as to avoid having to provide a lot of historical deduction here when im on the onset of having a cold and in general with a less than optimistic mood.

Bonus question: What would be gained by discussing this matter? Just so we can establish that Sheet in this very instance has a geniune point when 25.000 of her 25.011 posts aren't?
 
You are aware of Sheet's track record, do you?

I am just asking this in advance as to avoid having to provide a lot of historical deduction here when im on the onset of having a cold and in general with a less than optimistic mood.
I am aware of the statistics you have posted that you are easily banned when you communicate with excelsiolef and that there are quite a few instances of excelsiorlef posting in a way to make people post things that will lead to a ban. You decide whether that is a yes.
Bonus question: What would be gained by discussing this matter? Just so we can establish that Sheet in this very instance has a geniune point when 25.000 of her 25.011 posts aren't?
I don't know, I just said that I think that the warning in this specific instance seems harsh to me. If there is background that makes it shows that it is actually not, it would be interesting for me.
 
ResetEra and its ilk are friggin' nuts and the crazies are beginning to spread out into other places. Just had an encounter with one such 'special' individual that made the claim that History - the literal concept, was racist and shouldn't be taught in schools.
 
ResetEra and its ilk are friggin' nuts and the crazies are beginning to spread out into other places. Just had an encounter with one such 'special' individual that made the claim that History - the literal concept, was racist and shouldn't be taught in schools.
I'm just old as fuck I guess. When I was young, people standing on street corners with sandwich boards preaching non sense was ignored. It was understood that these people were looney toons af.

They throw away the sandwich boards for internet boards and Twitter.
 
I'm just old as fuck I guess. When I was young, people standing on street corners with sandwich boards preaching non sense was ignored. It was understood that these people were looney toons af.

They throw away the sandwich boards for internet boards and Twitter.

The people with the sandwich boards also tend to appear rather nuts so its easier to avoid them. The online people get to hide behind their choice of avatars.
 
I'm just old as fuck I guess. When I was young, people standing on street corners with sandwich boards preaching non sense was ignored. It was understood that these people were looney toons af.

They throw away the sandwich boards for internet boards and Twitter.

The problem is that these people aren't just on street corners anymore. They're in the education system and they're turning large swathes of children into drooling morons. Where do you think the patriarchy/intersectionality nonsense comes from?
 
The people with the sandwich boards also tend to appear rather nuts so its easier to avoid them. The online people get to hide behind their choice of avatars.
But it was never their look that gave them away. It was their message.

It didn't matter if they were dressed well or haven't bathed for days. You knew that the world wasn't ending tomorrow.
 
The problem is that these people aren't just on street corners anymore. They're in the education system and they're turning large swathes of children into drooling morons. Where do you think the patriarchy/intersectionality nonsense comes from?
No doubt.

I'm just saying I ain't fooled by a twitter account that has 5k followers. I can still tell who's full of shit.

Dress up a turd all you want, it's still steamy shit.
 
I am aware of the statistics you have posted that you are easily banned when you communicate with excelsiolef and that there are quite a few instances of excelsiorlef posting in a way to make people post things that will lead to a ban. You decide whether that is a yes.
Then you didn't have to ask the question in the first place, since you are already aware, and you would know that i shared your opinion on the warning anyways.

I don't know, I just said that I think that the warning in this specific instance seems harsh to me. If there is background that makes it shows that it is actually not, it would be interesting for me.
So nothing really.

And in specially made echo chambers where they can silence any who dare speak reason.
Them echo chambers aren't really durable, no surprises there when the main components that hold these critters together are fragility and entitlement.
 
And yet they keep saying this is a Nazi forum now. I don't see anyone asking someone to be killed here...
To them words are violence, and if you don't agree with their political views they'll find some way of construing that to mean that people get hurt. So to them you probably do advocate violence.
 
Then you didn't have to ask the question in the first place, since you are already aware, and you would know that i shared your opinion on the warning anyways.
I had the opposite impression, otherwise I wouldn't have debated it with you, because, well, apparently we are completely on the same boat here.
 
I had the opposite impression, otherwise I wouldn't have debated it with you, because, well, apparently we are completely on the same boat here.
Its not my problem that you don't read posts fully. Its there.
 
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/in...who-confronted-harassers.73476/#post-13561417


As usual, hypocritical moderation. Calling the Middle East ass backwards is bannable, but calling Kavanaugh a rapist is lauded.

Also, this post is either lacking complete self awareness or it's a troll.

Yikes. Are we okay generalizing a diverse country with 1.1 billion people? How is acceptable for a board that leans progressive?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/in...nfronted-harassers.73476/page-2#post-13575236

Generalizations against India = Bad
Generalizing America & Republicans = Good.
 
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Staying at Rehoboth beach over night. Didnt bring a bathing suit or extra shirt..

Only pair of swim shorts I could find in the discount rack my size were a pair of stars and stripes flag ones..

And I found this shirt for $10..

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Wish me luck...I'm gonna get drunk and try not to get attacked by leftist Nazis lol

beach shops are full of Trump stuff. I didnt even vote for him and bought a Make America Strong Again muscle shirt of him doing curls with giant biceps. They had like He-Man trump shirts and all kinds of goofy shit.
 
Its not my problem that you don't read posts fully. Its there.
Your only refutation of the warning was in an ironic text about the protected status of excelsiorlef, so if you actually wanted to say the warning is unsubstantial, you should have said so in a serious context. Moreover, it was you who started the discussion by calling out my claim that it was a harmless post excelsiorlef got warned for.
 
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More anti-white racism on Reset.

If someone said "white voters are the best" or if black people were to lose their right to vote, there would be a shitstorm.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/la...er-gap-w-trump-approval-m-8-w-31.73605/page-3

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This is not racism. They say, based on a statistic on the election that non-whites have voted better (from their perspective) than whites and that had only they voted, the US and the world would be better off. I agree with them on that valuation, as a white human. That being said, the person who said black voters are always the best voters, I cannot agree, as evident by the same election cycle: Black people are a big reason why the Democrats chose the wrong - I'd even say catastrophic - candidate.
 
This is not racism. They say, based on a statistic on the election that non-whites have voted better (from their perspective) than whites and that had only they voted, the US and the world would be better off. I agree with them on that valuation, as a white human. That being said, the person who said black voters are always the best voters, I cannot agree, as evident by the same election cycle: Black people are a big reason why the Democrats chose the wrong - I'd even say catastrophic - candidate.

'If white people lost the right to vote, the world would be better off'

How the fuck is that not racist bro?
 
'If white people lost the right to vote, the world would be better off'

How the fuck is that not racist bro?
The person is talking about the outcome of the election. Of course, in the literal sense, it would not be good for the world if white people lost their right to vote, but you need to keep in mind the context. It is merely the observation (and frustration with the fact) that the sole demographic responsible for a far right demagoge to lead the most powerful country in the world is white people. If people were actually demanding for the future that white people lost their voting rights, that would be a different story, but this is in response to a demographic breakdown of existing election results.
 
The person is talking about the outcome of the election. Of course, in the literal sense, it would not be good for the world if white people lost their right to vote, but you need to keep in mind the context. It is merely the observation (and frustration with the fact) that the sole demographic responsible for a far right demagoge to lead the most powerful country in the world is white people. If people were actually demanding for the future that white people lost their voting rights, that would be a different story, but this is in response to a demographic breakdown of existing election results.
But even this is wrong. The reason someone like Trump won in my opinion is because people wanted change. Most of them would have either voted for Sanders or Trump. Hillary was a symbol for the same old shit and people were tired of it. And this is happening all over the world right now. And the one profit from the incompetence of the democratic parties around the world are the right wing groups.

Democratic parties seem to have become so tone deaf regarding peoples problems and focusing everything on identity politics that accuse white people of being racist, sexist etc. Why should people honestly vote for them. When you hear on election campaigns speakers tell the audience that for there is a special place in Hell for women who are not voting for hillary and Hillar just standing behind it and smiles, then there is something really wrong.

But the same shit is happening everyhere else. Germany and the strong raise of the AFD in the eastern Parts (They feel left alone and abandoned by the Government) It happens in Fance, in Italy, In Sweden and so on. Weimar which did happen in Germany pre WW2 and Hitler does now happen all around the World.
 
The person is talking about the outcome of the election. Of course, in the literal sense, it would not be good for the world if white people lost their right to vote, but you need to keep in mind the context. It is merely the observation (and frustration with the fact) that the sole demographic responsible for a far right demagoge to lead the most powerful country in the world is white people. If people were actually demanding for the future that white people lost their voting rights, that would be a different story, but this is in response to a demographic breakdown of existing election results.
Your mental gymnastics are amazing
 
^^There is a seperate Politics thread for this kind of thing.

Your only refutation of the warning was in an ironic text about the protected status of excelsiorlef, so if you actually wanted to say the warning is unsubstantial, you should have said so in a serious context.
Oh i am sorry, i figured ''Ofcourse, the warning is a severe misstep by this staff member:'' was clear enough, but let me saying it again: The warning was a severe misstep.

Our reasonings as to why will differ though: I'd say its a misstep because the staff member who gave that warning obviously is unaware of Sheet's status. Hence why i said it was a rare warning.

Moreover, it was you who started the discussion by calling out my claim that it was a harmless post excelsiorlef got warned for.
Because it isn't a harmless post. Sheet herself is at the forefront of supporting the most inane ridicules so for Sheet to be sarcastic in this isn't harmless, at all. If you still aren't aware that you need to take anything Sheet says with a truck load of salt and assume there is a double floor in intent then i don't know what to tell you.

Just feels strange to me carry a torch for such a infamous user in similar fashion as Nobody_Important Nobody_Important does who seemingly has poofed from this thread.

I am pleased to know that I am entertaining you.
The thing is, you tend to over-debate things and you aren't reading the tone of what people are posting.

In other news:
 
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