Acerac
Banned
Oh. Why do people keep asking to have this thread closed? Is it because it has been going for quite some time, or is it the length? Perhaps the negative attitudes it fosters?
Should we close all threads that meet those metrics?
Off-site Community Discussion (Reset, etc.) -- READ OP. Stay civil. Don't make it personal. Keep it in here.
- Status
Should we close all threads that meet those metrics?
Dr. Claus
Banned
Various reasons, depending on the person. Some just like ResetEra and don't see the forest for the trees. Some are masochistic and don't see the truth. Some think that to truly become our own, we need to let go of any hostility to that site. Some think that we can't become a good site if we have a thread like this.
At least those are the various reasons I have seen as to why people want this thread closed over the past few months.
Athena~
Banned
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77330797
It's not exclusive to this thread or this forum. Not even close.
It's not exclusive to this thread or this forum. Not even close.
JordanN
Banned
That Reset thread ironically shows how some people can find racism in anything.
If the first thing that comes to mind their mind is "thieves" or "monkey", what does that really say about their world views on race?
Smash Bros is literally the last game where race has anything to do with gameplay. I can't imagine Sakurai sitting in his office, twirling a moustache going "Yes. Yes. I know how I can upset black people today. Yes, I'll put Diddy Kong in a game and hope people draw the connection between a cartoon ape in a boxing arena. Yes, yes!"
If the first thing that comes to mind their mind is "thieves" or "monkey", what does that really say about their world views on race?
Smash Bros is literally the last game where race has anything to do with gameplay. I can't imagine Sakurai sitting in his office, twirling a moustache going "Yes. Yes. I know how I can upset black people today. Yes, I'll put Diddy Kong in a game and hope people draw the connection between a cartoon ape in a boxing arena. Yes, yes!"
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Ivellios
Member
True, by desperately seeking racism everywhere they see it in places no one else would care (because its is simply not there) , and they even have the audacity to accuse the developer of being racist themselves, when there is absolutely no concrete evidence of this whatsoever.
Athena~
Banned
The OP even links to the twitters which all have so few followers, one of them has a whopping 7 followers lol. One even admitted the outrage itself was a joke, but he apparently takes it seriously and links to it anyway.
He also said he doesn't even play the spirit mode in the game, so he's offended on behalf of people who actually play the mode.
It's so easy to troll that forum, did you see the thread about what if Lara Croft was black in the front page?
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Agreed. I don't see the need.
Also I don't know if action is taken over there if something is said over hear. We've been told thats the case. Disappointing if true.
Happy Holidays!
First, I am not lobbying for it to be closed. Just something I think is important to say.
I'm not of the attitude that Resetera shouldn't be mentioned on NeoGAF. We don't have that attitude for 4chan. If a site (4chan, Resetera, ect) does something worthy of discussion (good or bad), then it deserves a discussion thread. As in...
1. Resetera member doxxes CDPR employee (Whether it was actual doxing or not, just using as example) - Deserves a discussion thread if GAF wants to discuss it.
2. This poster posted this random who gives a shit post on Resetera - Doesn't deserve a discussion thread imo.
Imo, 99.99% of what comes out of sites like 4chan and Resetera aren't deserving of discussion on NeoGAF.
What I am saying is it's not deserving of discussion here every time someone farts on a snare drum at 4chan or Resetera. Admittedly bad example since someone actually farting on a snare drum is discussion worthy
. *The following is about Social/Political Old GAF. It isn't talking about the entire NeoGAF or Resetera community.*
If the thread is for pointing out hate (racism, sexism) or double standards... we have an archive of that from the very same people doing it here.
Nobody outside of these 2 communities care whats going on at these 2 communities. Both are irrelevant unless you are members of either or both. Take a look around the internet and realize that the majority doesn't even know this site isn't still a far left echo chamber. Sure, you will see comments that say it's full of nazis (LOL) but the majority doesn't know NeoGAF as anything but the old reputation.
And speaking of some dumbasses trying to claim this site is Alt Right/Nazi's... what can you do? The idiotic people who are trying to push this aren't going to read or look before saying something like that. They are sheep, they do what their masters tell them to do. So this thread or any thread/post on this site won't allow them to see anything of relevance.
*END*
Look at it a different way. Imagine if every person who was banned on NFL/NBA forums created a thread just to tell NeoGAF they got banned there and why. It wouldn't be relevant to NeoGAF. Resetera is no different.
And the ones (supposedly) that look on this site and this thread to then report back to their masters aren't gonna look at any evidence you post. They are flashlight cops, not detectives. Flashlight Cops do what they are told to do and then clock out. You aren't gonna educate them.
Just my 2 cents right now.
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
Screw you,
Musky_Cheese
, I'll have you know I fart on snare drums on the daily and I never get a doggone thread!!!
Musky_Cheese
, I'll have you know I fart on snare drums on the daily and I never get a doggone thread!!!
Papa
Banned
Musky_Cheese
I get your point but I think you're missing the bigger picture. This thread is a reminder of what crazy is so we don't devolve into it again ourselves. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away and it's useful to treat their craziness as a barometer for ourselves.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Well I get what you're saying. I just don't think it works like .
Well... make that thread ASAP and pics or it didn't happen.Screw you,
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Shaqazooloo
Member
Wtf! How would a black Lara Croft change anything?! Lol
Ivellios
Member
I just saw it, i wonder if he the OP really believes that just making Lara black will make the game a huge sucess lol.
At least the people in that thread saw how absurd this idea was as well
Mochilador
Member
Smash discussion will be banned from ERA.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Pot Meet Kettle did an excellent write up over on the censorship thread. Quoted above.
But don't worry, ResetEra and its community isn't nearly as bad as we think it is! /s
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
Is there anyone really defending RE? In good faith.
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
Yeah I figured as much. At this rate, it's pretty clear they're stepping on people for whatever they claim is righteous.... I mean, obviously this isn't a big deal, but in the example for the Diddy/Donkey Kong stuff, I had to actively think about what was "racist" about that. I figure, being black, it should be obvious, or that I should get it. No. Like I doubt Mr. Japanese, living-in-a-homogenous-society Sakurai really meant to make fun of black people being theives (a stretch) or whatever else that was supposed to hint at.
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Kinda weird. I guess this is personal, but I miss the days when it was only "black people [anecdotally] calling out racism (for lack of a better way of saying it)." I've had my moments but the stuff from the last like, 2-3 years (which is from the internet, big whoop) really isn't hitting me the same as being called a slur on the street, for example.
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Musky_Cheese
Banned
I checked out a couple years ago with the social stuff here.
It was when I was told I was part of the problem because I didn't see when TV shows were too "white".
Sorry. I watched Step by Step and fresh prince. Home improvement and Family matters. All those when I was younger. I never asked why these shows lack diversity sometimes. Mind you my people, and quite frankly everyone except white and black Americans have been incredibly excluded from tv show to this day.
But the lack of representation, mine or otherwise doesn't stop me from enjoying Archer for example.
If I am gonna be the enemy for not seeing it, then so be it.
So I just stayed on gaming mostly. What can you do
Wings 嫩翼翻せ
so it's not nice
I hear you loud and clear. It boggles me that people would for instance post a question thread, asking, "why does x keep doing y?" and someone would respond, "because he's white." Like... are you being for real?
One thing I wish I could say in these crowds is, if you want representation this way [for the sake of representation] the same thing you believe you're criticizing's gonna happen all over again. Pretty clear from here.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Don't worry, this won't be as lengthy as my prior novelle. Actually, it will be lengthy but w/e lol
As a disclaimer, i do want to state the following to your post:
I feel that you are missing these prior statements in fullest. Instead of making seperate quotes on that, i feel a general remark as by the bolded is far more handy. So all the time you speak that i targeted ERA as a whole, that's the answer i am giving you.
As such i will only address those things that aren't covered by the bolded above for the most part.
Its undetailed yes, but other than that... I also find it strange that you aren't calling out those who call out his intentions - Sniffing in post history to present a pattern of behavior is a shitty move to do unless the behavior is persistent. This user didn't had a persistent pattern of behavior that would justify making that move.
I agree that the thread wasn't made in the best of intentions, but the resultant call-outs are just terrible.
I am not sure why you are assuming that PM interaction is going well with the ERA staff there: Its a visual and real problem that has been mentioned numerous times. I suppose you would want evidence of this if you wanted to continue this further, no? Again: Take a look around yourself. The fact i can find these posts in a 1.5 hour timeframe (And no, i am not assuming it targets ERA as a whole!) should be telling. If you think i target ERA as a whole, then i could reasonably argue that you keep your eyes shut for (A lot of!) the problems that are present.
Why aren't you criticizing that? Do you geniunely think that users like Enzom21 ask such kind of questions in a geniune way? You don't find it strange that because of their questions, others get banned? You say that these users break the rules, but how is consistently asking questions with ill-intent as a means to bait others into a ban not breaking the rules? This behavior is nearly always done by the same users and they never get so much as warned for it.
You are targeting the victim for making the (in your eyes) wrong decision to respond, when its actually the Questioner that should be actioned, not the one who is naive enough to fall into the trap these baits set out for them.
If i i can do it, then so can you. Taking the moral high ground now when you suggested that what we argue against is just a grand scheme of things is just bull and you know that.
That post in particular though is surprisingly transparent yet he gets flagged for it. Why? Staff snooping around in the post history and marking this particular post as the one to ban him over? Sounds a bit much, no?
It just sounds very selective to me: Obvious mishaps are not seen as such, but (at best) light infractions (Not even worth a warning imo) get banned.
EDIT: Re-factored and added words to improve flow.
As a disclaimer, i do want to state the following to your post:
- Thanks for thanking the time to make a proper response.
- I acknowledge that you agree with certain presented cases. Although you don't mention it, i am going to assume this counts as proper evidence as requested by you.
- However, i very much disagree with the majority of your global argument, which is non-verbatim ''You take ERA as a whole and judge them that way.''. This is paintingly untrue. On numerous occasions i have stated that its only a part of ERA that does this, a group of people who fuck it up for everyone else. Hence why in my examples you see the same ''names'' pop up. They don't represent ERA as a whole, but their consistent appearance generates the negative imagery that encompasses all of ERA. Even when that isn't technically correct, its their behavior that caused this universal negative image to be present.
I feel that you are missing these prior statements in fullest. Instead of making seperate quotes on that, i feel a general remark as by the bolded is far more handy. So all the time you speak that i targeted ERA as a whole, that's the answer i am giving you.
As such i will only address those things that aren't covered by the bolded above for the most part.
I can get behind that, but can we reasonably assume he made that thread knowing that PMing more often than not won't work?
How are the following ''Bad options with enormous grey areas''?
Are you for or against freedom of speech?
- Yes, I am for freedom of speech.
Votes: 58 89.2% - No, I am against freedom of speech.
Votes: 6 9.2% - Unsure
Votes: 0 0.0% - I am against it in its current firm.
I agree that the thread wasn't made in the best of intentions, but the resultant call-outs are just terrible.
So why didn't it? Remember, you later speak that i only had a dozen examples that don't represent ERA as a whole and i agree, but examples like these are very much omni-present. Thus i have to question why you think its a grand scheme when examples like this very one are very often to be accounted for. And no, they don't represent ERA as a whole, but these examples are often enough to suggest something's off with the site, which is far from the grand scheme to discredit ERA like you originally made it out to be.
Why should the thread be closed when the people who make these callouts (Just before you forget: That is baiting!) should be addressed for their disingenous behavior? I feel you aren't understanding the angle from where this is coming from: This right here is what is problematic with ERA, those callouts. You claimed that you didn't believe people would bait others into a ban. Yet that's what these callouts set out to do. That is why they are disingenous, and that's why i am asking the bolded.
Oh, so i guess i have to distinctily prove that PMing the staff usually does not work, right? There has been a whole thread about that in the past. And you don't think people tried it before? I vaguely remember this particular user trying it before aswell.
I am not sure why you are assuming that PM interaction is going well with the ERA staff there: Its a visual and real problem that has been mentioned numerous times. I suppose you would want evidence of this if you wanted to continue this further, no? Again: Take a look around yourself. The fact i can find these posts in a 1.5 hour timeframe (And no, i am not assuming it targets ERA as a whole!) should be telling. If you think i target ERA as a whole, then i could reasonably argue that you keep your eyes shut for (A lot of!) the problems that are present.
You are quite gullible if you think its fine to criticize staff there and get away with it. There is only a very select few mods that are okay with that. Try doing that with SweetNicole. Or Hecht. Last time i heard, he was moping about on Twitter which is such a staff-worthy thing to do.
What you don't seem to understand is the intent of the questioner. Just like with the callout above, these questions are usually asked by a group users (The Little Helpers) who clearly don't have good faith interests when asking these questions.
Why aren't you criticizing that? Do you geniunely think that users like Enzom21 ask such kind of questions in a geniune way? You don't find it strange that because of their questions, others get banned? You say that these users break the rules, but how is consistently asking questions with ill-intent as a means to bait others into a ban not breaking the rules? This behavior is nearly always done by the same users and they never get so much as warned for it.
You are targeting the victim for making the (in your eyes) wrong decision to respond, when its actually the Questioner that should be actioned, not the one who is naive enough to fall into the trap these baits set out for them.
Users like Enzom and RedMercury aren't cops nor should they act like they are the community police on ERA. The fact that they do, the fact their baits never get actioned but people falling for it or pointing it out do get actioned for it is what it is wrong here.
Dude its literally a summary of posts. You can literally just ignore the personal commentary and just focus on that. I am sorry but here you are just biased and questioning my capability to provide a proper source. I expect you to be able to filter out the personal stuff, especially when i have disclaimered it in the previous post that i don't agree with VOAT's commentary most of the time. Yet i still used this as a source since it is a summary.
If i i can do it, then so can you. Taking the moral high ground now when you suggested that what we argue against is just a grand scheme of things is just bull and you know that.
That post is never in a million years ban worthy as its perfectly reasonable. Also, the guy is a police officer, so its no surprise he will be defending his line of duty.
That post in particular though is surprisingly transparent yet he gets flagged for it. Why? Staff snooping around in the post history and marking this particular post as the one to ban him over? Sounds a bit much, no?
- Which cases? List them for me please and why.
- If you are going to ban people for a history of behavior, don't you agree that particular post is the worst post to use as a justification? Its a perfectly reasonable post. People looking at that and seeing the banhammer on that post for general behavior are going to think WTF. To me it screams that The Names are inconsiderate AF and couldn't pick a better post to do this from.
If obvious troll is obvious, then why are obvious baiters not obvious to you? That shit happens frequently and certainly with the aforementioned user (Enzom) but you seem to ignore the mere existence of this since you believe users won't bait others. Why is that?
Any idea why Excel keeps escaping the Ban Gauntlet in your opinion?
- Which rule was broken?
- ''Accumulated infractions'' is a generic moniker. There are users who only got banned once (Not so much even warned) and still it was because of ''accumulated infractions''. Why are you buying that such a ban reason is valid and believable?
- You aren't reading inbetween the lines. The reason i bring Excel up is because it shows that she made a disingenous bait and Zatt fell for it.
She makes an exaggerated comparison. If that is transphobic then where is the line? As this argument already shows is that Excel is getting an awful lot of leeway to make her baits (Which you apparently don't recognize as such) but a light comparison somehow does catch your eye?
It just sounds very selective to me: Obvious mishaps are not seen as such, but (at best) light infractions (Not even worth a warning imo) get banned.
This isn't limited to sensitive threads, mind you. But yes, that's what i am saying as you didn't buy into the idea that some ERA users bait others into a ban.
My question to that would be: And you don't find that problematic?
See the disclaimer. Here you are making an error in judgement.
''Or people you interact with''. Not sure why you didn't see that.
Primarily because you didn't buy into the first batch and i had to come up with that novelle before it stuck by. And the reason i asked that is because i wanted to gauge what is problematic to you. Like i said, you do seem to agree on some points, and yet on others (that are often very obvious), you act like its a thing that can never happen on ERA. That's what people have issues with.
You don't believe that Enzom's questions aren't done in bad faith? They don't have to be offensive, its more about the intentions of such a question. Again, read inbetween the lines.
Its almost as if only one or two people write the ban reasons and not the entire staff, which was the point. But instead reading that, you figured being snarky was a good idea.
Nice jab you have there. The point is that only a very select group of people seem to write them, and they usually end up with the words Nicole. That was the entire point i was making there.
Ad Populums are never a strong argument and it makes you sound like you don't have an argument of your own.
Then by all means stop complaining that the majority consensus is wrong, biased and its all just a grand scheme of things. Or as they used to say: Back up, or shut up. And if your counter argument to that is
- ''You all are ignoring the fact that i have pointed out that i agree with some things'' (Yet you ignore with others aswell)
All this mini-rant tells me that in my personal case, you didn't pay attention. I won't speak for the others
So:
- It IS NOT okay to do this against another member
- It IS okay to do this when it revolves around a public person you disagree with.
Thanks for belitteling my efforts here. I should remind you that:
- You claimed i harrassed you.
- You claimed i spammed you.
Thank you. And vice versa aswell. Despite many disagreements, i do have to commend that you went ahead and made a response regardless and knowing full well of the consequences.
EDIT: Re-factored and added words to improve flow.
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Papa
Banned
Just picturing the kind of person who would take the time outta their Christmas Eve to do this.
Grinchy
Banned
As far as the "should this thread exist" discussion goes, I enjoy coming in here and reading the crazy stuff from Era. I don't have a lot of use for it past that. I'm not going to get into some long, heated debate over it, for example. I'm just here to point and laugh like most of us.
I don't quite understand why there are two threads for the same thing, but I'm glad there's at least one. Seeing examples of what this place used to be and what it should never go back to being is helpful IMO. Especially as more and more of their banned members start coming back here and crying about virtual women being oppressed.
I don't quite understand why there are two threads for the same thing, but I'm glad there's at least one. Seeing examples of what this place used to be and what it should never go back to being is helpful IMO. Especially as more and more of their banned members start coming back here and crying about virtual women being oppressed.
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Shaqazooloo
Member
Are they really trying to do this on Christmas?
I don't know how they keep doing it, but I find myself constently shocked at the ridiculousness of the people over there.
JordanN
Banned
Jesus christ, now they're trying to take away Donkey Kong.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ra...mates-spirits-mode.89171/page-3#post-16251832
2019 is going to be a shit year. With Sony already on the censorship bandwagaon, expect more companies to lose their balls and bend to the SJW menace.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ra...mates-spirits-mode.89171/page-3#post-16251832
2019 is going to be a shit year. With Sony already on the censorship bandwagaon, expect more companies to lose their balls and bend to the SJW menace.
captainraincoat
Banned
Jesus christ, now they're trying to take away Donkey Kong.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ra...mates-spirits-mode.89171/page-3#post-16251832
2019 is going to be a shit year. With Sony already on the censorship bandwagaon, expect more companies to lose their balls and bend to the SJW menace.
I cant even......I mean....seriously......Jesus
Those kiwifams boys must be trying to bait people again
Waiting for
Santa...straight white mail who delivers presents to kids all over the world...even trump supporters...he must be a nazi
Shaqazooloo
Member
Um, I don't think anyone has thought of DK as a racist stereotype... making that type of connection makes that guy look like a bit of a racist imo.
CatCouch
Member
I read through a bunch of the Smash Spirits topic. It's sad how it starts off hostile. I understand talking about the implications of some spirit/fighter combos being racist but they go right to calling gamers racist (by the 11th post) and attacking Japan as a whole. Not everyone was unreasonable but it really seems the the whole site is designed to encourage bandwagon outrage.
It looks like you have one option which is get outraged. I saw fairly reasonable posts getting warnings and bans for dismissing concerns. How do you talk in a topic about racism if not being outraged gets you banned for dismissing concerns of racism? The topic is certainly worth debating but the hostile nature of the discussion is so counter-productive it seems to create more issues. More recent posts are calling Sakurai a "milkshake Duck".
It's weird watching that topic go from questioning 3 spirit combos (out of more than 300) to calling the game racist to calling Sakurai a bigot to calling Nintendo racist to calling all of Japan racist. That's not a reasonable discussion.
It looks like you have one option which is get outraged. I saw fairly reasonable posts getting warnings and bans for dismissing concerns. How do you talk in a topic about racism if not being outraged gets you banned for dismissing concerns of racism? The topic is certainly worth debating but the hostile nature of the discussion is so counter-productive it seems to create more issues. More recent posts are calling Sakurai a "milkshake Duck".
It's weird watching that topic go from questioning 3 spirit combos (out of more than 300) to calling the game racist to calling Sakurai a bigot to calling Nintendo racist to calling all of Japan racist. That's not a reasonable discussion.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Just need to pop in and correct you here real fast. I never said that calling for the death of a President is okay in anyway whatsoever. In fact I said the exact opposite.
That is not the first time I have publicly stated on here that I am against threats of violence or violence itself either. So you trying to label me as someone who is fine with death threats all of a sudden does not hold any water at all sorry. Also I am not saying that its okay for people to insult a public person that I disagree with I am saying that I am fine if they wanna insult someone THEY disagree with so long as its none of those things I listed. Thats not the same thing. I don't have to not like someone in order to be okay with someone else calling them a shithead. I may disagree with them if its someone that I like, but as long its not any of the things I listed then I am fine with people using insults like the 3 examples I listed. Though I do not support the others that you listed. Especially the use of the word "cunt" when its directed at a woman. I don't care who the woman is. Thats why I selected those 3 examples. They were the least offensive to me.
Okay sorry just wanted to get the facts straight real quick. Happy Holidays btw.
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Papa
Banned
How about "Hillary Clinton is a cunt"?
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I think it is something we should move away from
If you take a general look upon the kind of topics this thread gains attraction for, its usually the same thing. Discussing that can be beneficial, but i think it loses interest to discuss the same point after the 458th time So i do agree with what Elon
Musky_Cheese
is suggesting: Specific topics (Those that generate lots of bans/criticism) with a seperate thread and just forfeit everything else. If people at this point still have no clue, i suggested to Tyler to have this thread as an archive and a OP warning linking to context so people can look that up. People who complain anyway can then be ignored since they obviously didn't read the context You know this post by this particular user is really strange because i remember nynt as a very level head poster. It feels like he is, lol, infected with the Hypocrisy gene over there.Jesus christ, now they're trying to take away Donkey Kong.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ra...mates-spirits-mode.89171/page-3#post-16251832
2019 is going to be a shit year. With Sony already on the censorship bandwagaon, expect more companies to lose their balls and bend to the SJW menace.
You might want to read a bit further. Then you also would know that i am not specifically targetting you regarding that phrasing, but ERA users who have said this (And they have).
You're right, it does not. Especially when i didn't say that anyway.
On the other hand you straight up said i harassed you and spammed you and you have yet to take responsibility for that. So before you take an axe to grind on me, please look at your mirror at home and ask yourself if you have a clean slate before coming to the party.
I am okay with you ignoring 95% of my novelle since it was your last post anyways but the lack of accountability among other things is just repugnant. That is a really nasty forum character flaw Nobody and i really hope you learn to get to grips with it and be the better man about it.
Insulting someone they disagree with is completely and utterly useless for the sheer fact the recipient in this case won't see it anyway plus its just blanket insults (often) with no coherent thought behind it.
If you want to vent without a filter there is 4chan. People on ERA should themselves to a standard, and if the standard is ''Lets be even more pathetic than 4chan!!!'' and the negative imagery is formed as such, then you don't get to pass judgement as a site upon all other sites on what is right and what is not. Because you aren't a beacon of moral balance, you are a beacon of blatant hypocrisy, when doing so.
Happy holidays!
ONTOPIC:
Finally came across a ERA poster who had a clear opinion of how he sees the site.
Musky_Cheese
this is the kind of user to look after as this is the kind of perception that we need to change here.I present to you, Vectorprime:
Post #28:
Post #30:
This is the kind of underground stigma we are up against, gents.
Regarding Smash Ultimate: they really enjoy looking for things to get angry about. The outrage gives them a sense of purpose in life. It would be hilarious if it were self-contained, but their outrage has a pernicious effect in the outside world eg developers caving in and revising their original works to make them acceptable.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo feels "pressured" to revise things because of the 20 pages of outrage.
The complainers use the pretence of being very offended to control the artistic vision of those who don't think as they do. I mean, just look at some of the comments: "Jesus Fucking Christ, Nintendo!", "This is fucked up!", "This shit is unacceptable", "Sakurai is my milkshake duck".
Going on those comments, you would be forgiven for thinking Nintendo buried a secret CG video of a black man being lynched in every copy of Smash Ultimate.
These people are an utter blight on the industry.
I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo feels "pressured" to revise things because of the 20 pages of outrage.
The complainers use the pretence of being very offended to control the artistic vision of those who don't think as they do. I mean, just look at some of the comments: "Jesus Fucking Christ, Nintendo!", "This is fucked up!", "This shit is unacceptable", "Sakurai is my milkshake duck".
Going on those comments, you would be forgiven for thinking Nintendo buried a secret CG video of a black man being lynched in every copy of Smash Ultimate.
These people are an utter blight on the industry.
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Shaqazooloo
Member
It doesn't take much to be labeled racist, sexist, evil, etc from Era. Unless Gaf conforms to Era standards we'll always be seen as such in there eyes. It's a waste of time to be concerned about how Era views current Gaf.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Those people use Alt-Right to describe people like others use Car to describe any vehicle with 4 wheels.
It's impossible to take someone seriously that calls everyone except their herd Nazi and Alt Right. People who do that show their privilege and immaturity, and a incredible lack of intelligence. And there is no reason to tell them that either because there is no cure for being an insufferable dumb cunt.
It's impossible to take someone seriously that calls everyone except their herd Nazi and Alt Right. People who do that show their privilege and immaturity, and a incredible lack of intelligence. And there is no reason to tell them that either because there is no cure for being an insufferable dumb cunt.
Acerac
Banned
Seems a bit silly to close threads that are being used but I'm not the one who gets to make those decisions. If you find the conversations are repetitive perhaps don't participate in them?
I suppose I could just go to thebore and kiwifarms instead of GAF if that is what is preferred.
I suppose I could just go to thebore and kiwifarms instead of GAF if that is what is preferred.
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
I should have explained it more thoroughfully, but considering how long this thread is running, and with the topics being usually the same, don't you think its best to move on from it?
I mean, i suppose you could run it for another 147 pages, but will there be anything really new to discuss? As far as i know, this thread was made as a release hatch for things: It was not supposed to be the primary reason most curious ERA bees would use as an argument to denote how this entire site is.
If this thread is going to drag the imagery of this entire site down, then a new solution has to be found.
Trust me, i read over there aswell. And whilst it is entertaining, i can't help but shake off the feeling that after 300 pages, the discussing/complaining part is becoming a bit stale.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
I pop in this thread every once in awhile when I see or hear of something really weird happening there, but I rarely read through stuff in this thread anymore because I agree it has gotten repetitive/stale.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Never claimed it was smart. Just said that I don't have a problem with it as long has it doesn't cross a certain line.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Redneckerz
i won't read the thread over there but I assume that the same people here who preach in this thread about how it's wrong to label an entire group because of a few posters, or how it's wrong to make blanket statements are saying so in that thread too. Can you confirm?
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Same. Its the usual evidence that users are racist/dumb/dumb and racist/like fortune cookies.
I get it, they get it, they don't care, and at the end of the day, its almost Jerry Springer.
Its completely useless to do and all it does is creating a toxic environment.
Which, ironically, is what most descriptors about ERA are from the outside looking in.
I can conclude you ain't gonna take responsibility, by the way?
Which thread are we referring to?
Musky_Cheese
Banned
The one you just posted comments from
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
From that Vectorprime guy?
Acerac
Banned
I agree, but for me the natural result was me posting less. Given how ERA is still quite active, it feels like JordanN will never run out of things to whine about, and to me that's ok.
Though the insanity seems to have calmed since the whole twitter debacle, yes, I kind of feel it is inevitable that ERA will offer new subjects of conversation. Shitposters in this thread will be inevitable, but I know for myself at least it was a great bit of relief to see that I wasn't the only one who thought something was crazy when I was perma'd.
You are a wonderfully trusting person but given the circumstances under which ERA was created, I feel that you are giving this thread far too much credit for their ire towards these boards. Given how said anger is literally what birthed the fucking site (and having dealt directly with many on the forum) I am confident that there isn't anything anyone could possibly do to revoke our nazi status.
Just look at fucking Ninja; once the tone has been set if you deviate you get banned. There is no quieting that rage.
Join me in lurking! It makes no sense to end a conversation just because we don't wish to participate, I think.
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