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[Paracelsus]

I'll be seeing this in the next few weeks but some of the bad reviews read like a lot of hyperbole to me. I get if you don't like it and are extra critical because of not liking Brie Larson. I'm just having a hard time believing Marvel would put out another Thor 2. I'll be sure to give my poorly worded review once I see it though.

Marvel has always had a very consistent drone following when it came to professional reviews. Even bad movies didn't rank the way they deserved because of their blind followers.
The many white males reviewing their movies never had a problem regardless of the content. Ghostbusters was bad and they didn't waver, TLJ was mediocre and they kept going strong, now all of a sudden here comes the Wonder Woman of the MCU, the first woman driven movie of the series, and they back down.
Disney probably thinks they no longer need scores to protect their sales (true), and this is just a tolerable movie and that's it.
Whatever the case, 79RT for this particular movie is very weird. They can't blame the SS, and they can't blame russians this time. It's professional reviews.

 

[oagboghi2]

I'll be 'renting' this one from the library. I just don't get to see many movies in the theater because I've got two littles, and the last few were identitarian nightmares.

Wreck it Ralph 2 literally emasculated Ralph, put him in a dress, then had woke versions of princesses save him and belittle him. Incredibles 2 had mr incredible make a fool of himself trying to take care of a household while mrs incredible saved the day with nonstop winks to wokeness, and the last jedi ruined my childhood. Lego 2 had some clear woke moments, but wasn't quite as bad because it intertwined men suck with some decent brother/sister messaging.

The only other movie I've seen in the last year or so was alita [wanted to see glass but missed it]. That was great.

I just have no interest in watching propaganda, especially when it's for a cause I find disgusting. And it's swamped 4 out of the last 5 movies I paid to go see, because I didn't research beforehand.

I'll go see the next avengers, maybe. But I'm pretty much done with Disney. They can go f themselves for ruining so many fantastic franchises with woke politics. I'm not going to spend money and time at a theater just because they know I want to see what happens in the universe.

Well that is depressing to hear. I was planning on watching that this weekend

 

[Red Crayon Aristocrat]

Marvel has always had a very consistent drone following when it came to professional reviews. Even bad movies didn't rank the way they deserved because of their blind followers.
The many white males reviewing their movies never had a problem regardless of the content. Ghostbusters was bad and they didn't waver, TLJ was mediocre and they kept going strong, now all of a sudden here comes the Wonder Woman of the MCU, the first woman driven movie of the series, and they back down.
Disney probably thinks they no longer need scores to protect their sales (true), and this is just a tolerable movie and that's it.
Whatever the case, 79RT for this particular movie is very weird. They can't blame the SS, and they can't blame russians this time. It's professional reviews.

They know that if they aren't honest with Captain Marvel the jig would truly be up for film criticism.

They had to sacrifice one of these thar feminist flicks or else everyone would know how useless critics are.

 

[JCK75]

Well that is depressing to hear. I was planning on watching that this weekend

I felt WIR2 didn't go overboard and it was still highly entertaining.

 

[sol_bad]

What's the point of having a 1 to 10 scale if you aren't allowed to give a score below 7. Just because someone doesn't like the movie doesn't mean they're "trolling".

I agree with a 1-10 scale, it's bullshit when reviewers work within a 5-10 scale, it's stupid.

What I said above is me saying it's hard to believe Captain Marvel could be below average.

Elektrah and Catwoman are like a 2 and 3. A Wrinkle in Time is easily a 1, my wife and I couldn't even finish it properly because it was so bad. We ended up fast forwarding it and were dumb founded by the ending and acting. And worse is I spent $6 to rent it.

 

[Doom85]

I felt WIR2 didn't go overboard and it was still highly entertaining.

Yeah, seriously, Ralph has the dress on for barely half a minute and it was to save him, and the princesses saved him but I don't remember them belittling him in any way, and it was like a minute-long scene, hardly that long to be worth singling out. And I think autoduelist is really misrepresenting Incredibles 2, they simply reversed the roles Bob and Helen had in 1 and Bob does become better at being a stay-at-home dad as the movie progresses, Helen didn't suck at it in 1 because she had been doing it since the kids had been born. And I don't even know what version of LEGO Movie 2 he saw, literally the only so-called "woke" moment was that single line from the trailer that was in a 90 minute movies, oh noes.

 

[LMJ]

O oagboghi2 I would agree with Doom85 , I would personally say Wreck it Ralph is worth it just for the pop culture references in regards to the Internet and the social media culture.

That having been said I don't think they emasculated Ralph, but rather turned him into a very co-dependent character...extremely co-dependent. That and he's much more whiny and more of a coward in this one.

Honestly it felt like these were meant to be original characters, not necessarily Ralph in Venelope. They straight up ignored story Canon from the previous film, and character traits.

If I had to rate the film I would say the humor and the references were 5 out of 5, but the story was a 2 out of 5 lol

 

[autoduelist]

Well that is depressing to hear. I was planning on watching that this weekend

I see other people saying it wasn't so bad, but I have to disagree.

Yes, that dress scene was just a scene. I didn't say he was in it the entire film. But he was the classic obsessed beta male the entire film, obsessing over vanellopes every need and debasing himself on the internet in every way he could to serve as her white knight, which she of course shunned him for in return.

Vanellope , on the other hand, revels in female independence and solo I-need-no-man-power. She is tough and strong and perfect to Ralph's idiocy, and, of course, absolutley untouchable. Oh, and maybe a lesbian if we read into a few scenes.

And then, when the beta Ralph makes a mess of absolutley everything, only by owning up to his flaws of being Male [as portrayed by being possessive and controlling] does he claw his way back up to being friend zoned.

I realize this sounds like I'm doing some particularly harsh reading of the film, but they clearly were aiming in that direction [like I said, they literally emasculate and ridicule him at times] so I feel the rest of the reading is as intended. If anything I'm being kind because it's been awhile since I saw it.

Is it funny? Sure, at times. Does it have some great references? Sure, though I preferred those in the first. But it most definitely also had an agenda that the first one didn't.

Yeah, seriously, Ralph has the dress on for barely half a minute and it was to save him, and the princesses saved him but I don't remember them belittling him in any way, and it was like a minute-long scene, hardly that long to be worth singling out. And I think autoduelist is really misrepresenting Incredibles 2, they simply reversed the roles Bob and Helen had in 1 and Bob does become better at being a stay-at-home dad as the movie progresses, Helen didn't suck at it in 1 because she had been doing it since the kids had been born. And I don't even know what version of LEGO Movie 2 he saw, literally the only so-called "woke" moment was that single line from the trailer that was in a 90 minute movies, oh noes.

Either we watch different films or they delete the subtext from your versions.

Literally the main message of Lego 2 is that the idiotic beta Male [emmet] is superior in every way to his alpha Male version, which is evil. Wild style even learns that while she thought she wanted an alpha male, they are evil, and the subserviant beta who will literally make you a dream house is the way to go. Even the batman subplot is about this. If you you missed that, I really can't help you. To say the only woke moment is one line is letting the rest fly over your head. Literally the entire film revolves around gender roles, it's the entire plot.

Did you at least notice anything in the last jedi?

 

[demosthenes]

Rotten Tomatoes is now claiming The Last Jedi was review bombed despite explicitly denying it previously. Funny that they say this now as Captain Marvel's audience score is in the tank.

The movie has more user reviews the day it comes out than movies that have been out for years, but yes, you're right, there is a plot.

 

[Doom85]

Either we watch different films or they delete the subtext from your versions.

If you're talking LEGO Movie 2, it was just that line. The rest of the movie is about how genuine maturity shouldn't be confused with "edgy' and "dark" which makes sense given Finn's age in 2.

Seriously, I feel you're looking into subtext that isn't there. I mean, I could point out how LEGO Movie 1 has a main villain who is called President "Business" who blocks off outside worlds and cultures that he sees as different and weird and how one might see that as subtext regarding a certain modern leader of a certain country, except the first LEGO Movie came out two years before it could have known he would even become said leader and the end of the film shows that it's all a metaphor for something totally else.

Wreck-it-Ralph 2 is clearly a metaphor for a person who has a new dream or passion and wants to explore it but that means moving away and how that can hurt the people that care for them but said people need to understand that despite that hurt they should let the people they care about do what they love. Gender has no relevance to that, the one time the Disney princesses talk about men was completely removed from everything I just said. It's why I get so frustrated when people say Vanellope shouldn't have been allowed to do what she does in the end, I'm like, "wow, so teach kids that if they have a dream or a new job offer that requires them to move, no **** you, you're staying put!" Like come on, I'm glad Disney/Pixar are willing to talk about some real-world lessons that have some bittersweet-ness to it rather than just happy ones. Like wow, that Monsters University message, like yes the film wasn't on par with Inc., but dang that's quite the message to send to kids but at the same time it's totally an accurate one.

 

[chaos789]

In Feige we trust??

Yeah, if a 10 year buildup is squandered by the last month introduction of SJW pandering, Marvel can enjoy their fall.

A shame if so, especially with the imminent movie return/introduction of some of the characters that were integral to the comic saga.

I don't think that is what will happen. I think Captain Marvel will put up a good fight at first but ultimately it will be Iron Man who defeats Thanos.

If they really just throw Captain Marvel in Avengers: Endgame and she kicks all kinds of ass including Thanos with no challenge, then...I will be extremely disappointed and my viewing of MCU films will come to an end.

 

[Schrödinger's cat]

https://boundingintocomics.com/2019...-response-to-negative-captain-marvel-reviews/

 

[StreetsofBeige]

What's the point of having a 1 to 10 scale if you aren't allowed to give a score below 7. Just because someone doesn't like the movie doesn't mean they're "trolling".

There's a million points. With each point = a dollar bill.

No different than gaming. Anyone who has followed gaming (even slightly) over the past 15 years knows game ratings have skewed to that 6-10 scale. 6 and down = shit. 7-8 = decent. 9+ really good.

The Jeff Gertsmann Kane and Lynch debacle was hilarious. At least UBI could have made it less obvious.

The good thing about movie reviews though is that (UNLIKE GAME REVIEWS), movie critics give a wide range of scores where you get 5% shitty movies and 95% Oscar worthy flicks. I guess movie critics getting that free viewing 2 days before launch isn't enough to force themselves to give thumbs up. And considering you never hear about a movie critic being banned from early previews, it shows movies critics have no fear giving a movie zero stars.

But a game site giving a 3/10 will feel the pressure of:

- No early info
- No preview videos
- No Q&A
- No invites to meet or chat with devs at game shows
- No early review copy with a bag of swag
- No banner ad revenue
- And if it's a company like Bethesda ban hammers, perma bans for any future game

So a lot more at risk for game sites than a movie critic.

 

[chaos789]

It's missing Michelle Yeoh.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It's missing Michelle Yeoh.

And Kate Beckinsale in Underworld. Jamie Lee Curtis slicing and dicing Michael Myers too.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

You're effectively rating the movie before seeing it.

I watched the movie. It's undoubtedly not less than a 5 and definitely not a 0/10 as you rated it.

The movie has flaws and - as a I said - it's a decent movie in the same vein as Thor, Wonder Woman or Cap 1. As far as origin movies go it's way below Iron Man and Batman Begins, for example.

sol_bad is correct and the movie is (way) better than Elektra, Catwoman, Wrinkle in Time and - as I mentioned - Suicide Squad or Batman v Superman.

IMO the main problem with this movie is not the movie in itself (albeit as I said it is a flawed product). The main problems are the main actress who is trying to push a political agenda with her off the cuff comments and some outlets who are clinging on to Captain Marvel for their political agendas. I wasn't offended by what she said, but I'm not easily offended and I'm not a white male. I think her message could have been better presented if she is trying to push for diversity. I never understood white women being vehemently against white men. It boggles my mind.

Btw I'm vehemently against forced diversity and actually got a ban somewhere else for saying I'm against that and defending myself. Some people were trying to push for Falcon/Winter soldier should be a couple, wolverine or iron man should be made gay and so on. I completely said no to all of that as it would all feel forced and gay characters in the MCU should come organically like Valkyrie, the rumored Eternals one, and undoubtedly Iceman. I remember reading in that same place that they should make Kevin Hart Wolverine. I just thought to myself, that's an easy way for me to not watch any movies with that Wolverine. Some race swaps tend to work (i.e. Nick Fury worked out great), but race/gender swapping an iconic character is a no no.

And which is better a movie: Wonder Woman or Captain Marvel?

They are of similar qualities. Wonder Woman is all of a sudden a "masterpiece" when it wasn't that good to begin with. I've been consistent about my rating of WW forever. It's passable a la Captain Marvel or Thor 1. Overrated as fuck on Rottentomatoes a la Black Panther.

For all the talk about the feminism pieces in Captain Marvel, people seem to be forgetting the same things in WW, apparently. Neither movie's push really bothered me to be honest. It's just that both movies are not great and just okay. Comparable quality wise.

 

[Doom85]

I don't think that is what will happen. I think Captain Marvel will put up a good fight at first but ultimately it will be Iron Man who defeats Thanos.

If they really just throw Captain Marvel in Avengers: Endgame and she kicks all kinds of ass including Thanos with no challenge, then...I will be extremely disappointed and my viewing of MCU films will come to an end.

Uh, if it's only Tony finishing the fight that would be just as disappointing (and nonsensical, Tony's armor and weapons shouldn't get THAT powerful, it's the same nonsense when DC writers write Batgod instead of Batman). Steve and Tony, Drax, and Nebula should all at least inflict some of the final blows against him. Probably could add Thor, Gamora, and Rocket in as well. It should be the main two of the MCU, Steve and Tony, and also the characters most affected by Thanos' actions.

 

[Dacon]

The thing is if they pulled from her Ms. Marvel days they could have had stuff to work with. It's funny if you read the early Ms. Marvel stuff she's always being challenged and grasping victory from the jaws of defeat. Not to mention the dual consciousness thing could be really compelling compared to the boiler plate amnesia angle they went with. Even from later days, especially post House of M there is a lot character drama and personality to pull from. It would take some tweaking to work for this new version but it would be better than nothing.

It's funny isnt it? Carol was so much more compelling in the comics long before they tried to push her as their own Wonder Woman with 0 percent of her sex appeal.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

So the final fight will be Thanos vs. a group of remaining superheros who are all super fast, strong, half of them can fly, half of them can shoot magic laser rays. And human Captain America will somehow survive and block shots as everyone aims at his shield instead of blowing off a foot or his opposite arm...... just like those Robocop movies.... why not just shoot him in the face?

You guys know that the majority of superheroes are basically the same thing, but look different.

Yawnnnnn.....

 

[pimentel1]

I watched the movie. It's undoubtedly not less than a 5 and definitely not a 0/10 as you rated it.

The movie has flaws and - as a I said - it's a decent movie in the same vein as Thor, Wonder Woman or Cap 1. As far as origin movies go it's way below Iron Man and Batman Begins, for example.

sol_bad is correct and the movie is (way) better than Elektra, Catwoman, Wrinkle in Time and - as I mentioned - Suicide Squad or Batman v Superman.

IMO the main problem with this movie is not the movie in itself (albeit as I said it is a flawed product). The main problems are the main actress who is trying to push a political agenda with her off the cuff comments and some outlets who are clinging on to Captain Marvel for their political agendas. I wasn't offended by what she said, but I'm not easily offended and I'm not a white male. I think her message could have been better presented if she is trying to push for diversity. I never understood white women being vehemently against white men. It boggles my mind.

Btw I'm vehemently against forced diversity and actually got a ban somewhere else for saying I'm against that and defending myself. Some people were trying to push for Falcon/Winter soldier should be a couple, wolverine or iron man should be made gay and so on. I completely said no to all of that as it would all feel forced and gay characters in the MCU should come organically like Valkyrie, the rumored Eternals one, and undoubtedly Iceman. I remember reading in that same place that they should make Kevin Hart Wolverine. I just thought to myself, that's an easy way for me to not watch any movies with that Wolverine. Some race swaps tend to work (i.e. Nick Fury worked out great), but race/gender swapping an iconic character is a no no.



They are of similar qualities. Wonder Woman is all of a sudden a "masterpiece" when it wasn't that good to begin with. I've been consistent about my rating of WW forever. It's passable a la Captain Marvel or Thor 1. Overrated as fuck on Rottentomatoes a la Black Panther.

For all the talk about the feminism pieces in Captain Marvel, people seem to be forgetting the same things in WW, apparently. Neither movie's push really bothered me to be honest. It's just that both movies are not great and just okay. Comparable quality wise.

I've been wanting to watch Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad, but BvS turned me off from the whole DCU.

You know what's awesome: Dr. Who. Been watching the reboot and it's just fun. Better than most movies.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I've been wanting to watch Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad, but BvS turned me off from the whole DCU.

You know what's awesome: Dr. Who. Been watching the reboot and it's just fun. Better than most movies.

I don't watch all superhero movies, but WW is definitely one of the better ones. If I had to choose, I'd take Christian Bale Batman movies as the best superhero flicks, since I like dark gloomy no nonsense movies.

WW has a mix of serious, some comedy, and action. It definitely has less jokes than a typical Avengers movie where Tony, THOR and Hulk and the gang are zinging jokes every minute.

The problem with WW is the ending fight. Was kind of dumb and totally counter the rest of the movie.

 

[EviLore]

I watched the movie. It's undoubtedly not less than a 5 and definitely not a 0/10 as you rated it.

Give it your own rating, then.

 

[chaos789]

Uh, if it's only Tony finishing the fight that would be just as disappointing (and nonsensical, Tony's armor and weapons shouldn't get THAT powerful, it's the same nonsense when DC writers write Batgod instead of Batman). Steve and Tony, Drax, and Nebula should all at least inflict some of the final blows against him. Probably could add Thor, Gamora, and Rocket in as well. It should be the main two of the MCU, Steve and Tony, and also the characters most affected by Thanos' actions.

Well my theory involved Tony building his own Infinity Gauntlet and Cap being the one who sacrificed himself for the soul gem.

But I imagine the film will have a scene with all of them on screen together and Steve saying "Avengers Assemble".

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

Give it your own rating, then.

Like I said, passable. Between a D and a C, so 6 and 7.5/10. I need to watch it a couple of more times see to if it's gonna land more in the "C" or "D" category. Right now I'm leaning towards D+/C-.

 

[pramod]

Ok heres my totally unbiased and honest review. I enjoyed it. Because Marvel Studios has these types of films down to a science. Even if there was a lack of action and an incredibly wooden lead actress, but they throw enough SLJ, humor and CG and fan service into these movies so thats its almost impossible not to be entertained. I would rank it in the bottom third of MCU films, but still better than Antman 2 or Doctor Strange.

 

[AnotherDayAnotherDollar]

I liked Dr. Strange and Ant Man 2 better, but yeah it's in the bottom tier of Phase 3 movies.

 

[autoduelist]

Seriously, I feel you're looking into subtext that isn't there.

Good propaganda is invisible to those it's meant for. Like, literally, that's like propaganda 101 [see Jacques Ellul, one of the godfathers of the subject].

I'm not going to get deep into it, because its clear we're not getting anywhere.

But gender is the core, central axis upon which every message in Lego 2 is based.

Even the Meta story is brother vs. Sister. Every facet of both wildstyle and Emmett story arcs are about what makes the ideal Male both as a mate and in society. Like I said, he literally builds her a dreamhouse... they were not remotely subtle about this.

Even the side characters and secret identities [of wildstyle, emmet, and the ninja like character] revolve around gender roles.

The entire batman and Queen Watevra Wa'Nabi [even her name and abilities represents female empowerment and independence]. The entire end of the film is about gender equality.

And I'm fishing for a subtext. Jesus, the writer used a sledgehammer to write the subtext in bright neon ink. The final battle is even held on damn megasized wedding cake. They literally frosted the subtext and you're saying it isn't there.

 

[autoduelist]

It's missing Michelle Yeoh.

Yup. I wasnt even thinking about her or all the various Shaw brothers/etc films.

Zoe bell deserves a mention too, even if she hasn't had a truly iconic role yet.

 

[Grinchy]

You guys are making it seem like there are too many strong female characters to put on a single board. This can't be true because women never get strong roles in movies.

 

[LegendOfKage]

Well that is depressing to hear. I was planning on watching that this weekend

I liked the first Wreck it Ralph. The sequel goes in a horrible direction at a certain point, and then the movie somehow becomes even stupider. Worst animated film I've seen in a while.

Somewhat vague spoilers:

Spoiler

They take Ralph, the established hero character of the first movie, and have him do something horrible, spiteful, and completely selfish. I hated him, but really, I just hated the writers. He of course "learns his lesson" in the end, but it was far too little too late for me. They could have given him another motivation like being overly concerned, or they could have made it so he was tricked into doing something awful, but no. They just made him a complete asshole.

The fact the movie wasn't very good even up to that point didn't help matters either.

 

[LMJ]

Grinchy they do now thanks to these he...no, more than heroes, people like Rian Johnson and Brie Larson are dare I say patron saints of the women's movement!

Never before have women been so amazing, had such power, such ferocity before these Pioneers stepped in we were in the dark days when women were still in the kitchen scrubbing pots and pans while evil men was out doing their evil Deeds, let us remember with a moment of silence this International women's day the true greatness that innovators like the two above have achieved...

You may say "annoying shrew and ass pushing a pathetic agenda all whilst destroying the canon of beloved series and keeping true fans out of the helm"

I say "Her-o"

 

[oagboghi2]

I see other people saying it wasn't so bad, but I have to disagree.

Yes, that dress scene was just a scene. I didn't say he was in it the entire film. But he was the classic obsessed beta male the entire film, obsessing over vanellopes every need and debasing himself on the internet in every way he could to serve as her white knight, which she of course shunned him for in return.

Vanellope , on the other hand, revels in female independence and solo I-need-no-man-power. She is tough and strong and perfect to Ralph's idiocy, and, of course, absolutley untouchable. Oh, and maybe a lesbian if we read into a few scenes.

And then, when the beta Ralph makes a mess of absolutley everything, only by owning up to his flaws of being Male [as portrayed by being possessive and controlling] does he claw his way back up to being friend zoned.

I realize this sounds like I'm doing some particularly harsh reading of the film, but they clearly were aiming in that direction [like I said, they literally emasculate and ridicule him at times] so I feel the rest of the reading is as intended. If anything I'm being kind because it's been awhile since I saw it.

Is it funny? Sure, at times. Does it have some great references? Sure, though I preferred those in the first. But it most definitely also had an agenda that the first one didn't.

Okay, now I'm interested. This sounds like an entertaining trainwreck

 

[ruvikx]

You guys are making it seem like there are too many strong female characters to put on a single board. This can't be true because women never get strong roles in movies.

I was watching Journey to the Center of the Earth last night (2008 movie with Brendan Fraser). And guess what? The Estonian mountain guide character was a... strong woman who saved his life multiple times. I can throw some random other women into the conversation as well, like Milla Jovovich in Fifth Element, Resident Evil 1-6, Three Musketeers (all strong women characters who kick proverbial & literal butt), Kate Beckinsale in Underworld, Van Helsing & Total Recall (villainous butt kicking in the latter), Jessica Biel in Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003), Stealth & Total Recall again. Yada yada yada the list of similar "strong female characters" is simply massive at this point. Let's not forget The Hunger Games, Divergence, Star Wars etc. as well.

Oh & in terms of female superheroes (I won't mention the total shitty ones like Halle Berry's Catwoman, Elektra or Batgirl), Michelle Pfeiffer's 1992 Catwoman deserves a special mention. But nope, apparently Wonder Woman & Captain Marvel are the "womens liberation from damsels in distress" movies according to the feminist marketing (propagandists) teams behind them. I agree with James Cameron on this issue, i.e. his Sarah Connor character was far more "real" & as a result, far stronger than anything served-up by a character with literal impossible powers (he was referring to Wonder Woman, but the same applies to Captain Marvel). I mean sh*t, even Rose in Titanic punches a crew member in the face & rescues Leo DiCaprio when he's handcuffed in the lower decks.

 

[sol_bad]

Just finished with the film and it was really good. A lot of fun to be had and Larsons acting was strong. Anyone that thinks it was bad, that confuses me. Within the context of the film and what she is going through, the emotions she shows are believable.

I'll write longer impressions when I get home later.

 

[autoduelist]

Okay, now I'm interested. This sounds like an entertaining trainwreck

Lol. Yeah. I mean, it's just subtext, but still.

It's got nothing on this space movie I once saw where a blue haired feminist puts a man in his place just before inventing a brand new military tactic nobody else ever thought of called 'ramming' that is so powerful it destroys the canon of an entire 40 year old mega franchise in one hit.

Not to be outdone, later in this same movie another woman takes this 'ramming' tactic and uses it to stop a man from sacrificing himself to save all of his friends, because this lets her explain to him how it's actually love that conquers all as the friendly base is overrun.

Meanwhile, you will be forced to watch as an icon of your childhood has become a grizzled, terrible old fool who milks the teets of strange creatures for that warm, green cash before finally dying a lame death. But that's okay, because the mary sue character is already far more powerful than him, anyway.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's as dull as Kristen Stewart.

 

[Dunki]

The biggest Problem I have right now after reading about the movie and its story is that this is a terrible introduction for Endgame. Now Marvel has its own Superman. Someone who can basically everything and can not be defeated.
All These characters in Infinity War had at least one movies and tons of cameo scenes or parts in Avengers. These people earned their place in Endgame which now seems to be competently irrelevant because of Mary Sue Marvel will defeat Thanos in the end.

 

[pramod]

An all out Avengers+Cpt Marvel vs Thanos brawl will seem like a rehash of Infinity War, and I think the Russo Bros are too talented and clever to do something like that. I am hopeful Endgame will be something totally unexpected, and still immensely satisfying. I still have faith.

Spoiler: Spoiler!

Besides, Capt Marvel being able to go head to head with Thanos+his Gauntlet wouldn't make any sense. She derived her powers from the Tesseract, right? So that's just one Infinity Stone. But Thanos has all 6. She might be able to hold him off a while, like Wanda did in Infinity War. But that's it.

 

[sol_bad]

For all we know, there could be another villain and Thanos helps the Avengers.

 

[Kadayi]

Man, Ragnarok struck a chord. It being so low for me is mostly due to it being a full on comedy. Which would be fine if I actually found it funny but I was pretty much bored out of my mind whenever Hela was offscreen. I also couldn't stand Valkyrie which didnt help. It's really a matter of it not clicking with me than it being a bad, poorly made movie.

I'll be honest I found the comedy angle largely at odds with the main plot which was Asgard getting laid waste to and the Asgardians getting largely decimated (which makes the opening of Infinity War even darker tbh).

No real interest in Captain Marvel. It doesn't seem that even the geek film reviewers care all that much for the film so it's an easy pass.

 

[MayauMiao]

Captain Mary Sue is so flawless and empowered how they going to make her interesting in the sequel (if it ever happens)?

 

[fantomena]

The biggest Problem I have right now after reading about the movie and its story is that this is a terrible introduction for Endgame. Now Marvel has its own Superman. Someone who can basically everything and can not be defeated.
All These characters in Infinity War had at least one movies and tons of cameo scenes or parts in Avengers. These people earned their place in Endgame which now seems to be competently irrelevant because of Mary Sue Marvel will defeat Thanos in the end.

Maybe you should way until Endgame is out before declaring that she is Superman? How do you now Carol will beat Thanos in the end? You know nothing about Endgame.

And btw, every one of the Avengers got their shit beaten by Thanos. Do you expect the very few who are left to be able to just magically just beat him? Of course they need another heavy-hitter on their team.

Carol has been planned for years, she has just been delayed. Feige has even said one of the first drafts of Age of Ultron was Carol in.

I fully trust the Russo bros.

 

[Dunki]

Maybe you should way until Endgame is out before declaring that she is Superman? How do you now Carol will beat Thanos in the end? You know nothing about Endgame.

And btw, every one of the Avengers got their shit beaten by Thanos. Do you expect the very few who are left to be able to just magically just beat him? Of course they need another heavy-hitter on their team.

Carol has been planned for years, she has just been delayed. Feige has even said one of the first drafts of Age of Ultron was Carol in.

I fully trust the Russo bros.

giving the descriptions and scenes i heard from this movie. You can easily say she is Marvel's Superman. And maybe if she would have been a part of this since Age of Ultron than it would be different but she has not earned Endgame at all. They should have introduced her after Endgame against the new threat they will be facing.

Also there is no way the people vanished will stay dead There is NO way for example Spider Man is finished. While watching Endgame I fear I will now wait for Captain Marvel saving the day and then say I told you so...
It has dampen my excitement for Endgame by a lot actually.

If they wanted a women play a bigger role how about Black Widow instead?

 

[fantomena]

giving the descriptions and scenes i heard from this movie. You can easily say she is Marvel's Superman. And maybe if she would have been a part of this since Age of Ultron than it would be different but she has not earned Endgame at all. They should have introduced her after Endgame against the new threat they will be facing.

Also there is no way the people vanished will stay dead There is NO way for example Spider Man is finished. While watching Endgame I fear I will now wait for Captain Marvel saving the day and then say I told you so...
It has dampen my excitement for Endgame by a lot actually.

If they wanted a women play a bigger role how about Black Widow instead?

So you haven't seen the movie yet? You haven't seen the mid-scredits scene? What.

Why do you bring up the dusted heroes? They are dead. It's only the OG avengers left, Scott and Rocket and they will never beat Thanos and undo the snap, they need Carol. Only Iron Man, and Thor hurt Thanos. Thor only hurt him because Thanos did not expect him and wasn't prepared, which is confirmed by the Russos.

How do you know Black Widow doesn't have a big role in Endgame? Also, she is not a heavy hitter, she is a spy with awesome kick ass moves, but with tasers and pistols.

So far, this is what the Russos have said about Carol:

"It's always a concern of ours about overpowering characters, because the reason that people relate to these characters is their humanity, and that they're flawed," said Joe Russo. "And the reason we love working so much with Captain America was that he was limited, and his heart was his superpower, you know? So we're all acutely aware of the dangers of having an overly powerful character. We like sensitive storytelling, so we found a thoughtful way through it."

That's what kind of fires us up on a storytelling level," added Anthony Russo. "Because when you do have powerful characters, you have to work that much harder to find their vulnerabilities and complexities. Joe was mentioning on a storytelling level… and keep the stakes high! Because that's where those characters are vulnerable. And actually, that makes for great drama, and you run in that direction. As storytellers, that's been one of the most fun things we've had working with these characters is figuring out ways into them where they are vulnerable and they aren't all powerful."

https://www.marvel.com/articles/movies/russo-brothers-on-captain-marvel-in-avengers-endgame

 

[bitbydeath]

Movie wasn't too bad overall, was lacking Coulson though he barely had any scenes.

It's a strange placement with the Avengers hype and this being a character intro story which makes it a bit of a downer.

Oh and the 'I'm just a girl' action scene was stupidly done, along with the younger versions of her standing up after getting knocked down was just weird. It's like why can't you just treat her like every other superhero.

That nonsense aside though it was decent.

 

[mcz117chief]

And Kate Beckinsale in Underworld. Jamie Lee Curtis slicing and dicing Michael Myers too.

And Emily Blunt as Rita in Edge of Tomorrow.

 

[pel1300]

Rian Johnson proves he is a narcissist and a troll who wants attention:



Implication is obvious: He's trying to say that most people liked his garbage TLJ. This is the worst endorsement you can possibly get: defense from Rian Johnson, the man responsible for creating this critics vs audience war on rottentomatoes

 

[JimiNutz]

Glad to hear that I don't really need to watch this before Endgame. Will maybe watch at home one day instead.

 

[slugbahr]

Rian Johnson proves he is a narcissist and a troll who wants attention:



Implication is obvious: He's trying to say that most people liked his garbage TLJ. This is the worst endorsement you can possibly get: defense from Rian Johnson, the man responsible for creating this critics vs audience war on rottentomatoes

The reason is Disney. One director's stupidity means nothing in the greater scheme of things. The corporations behind him though, that's a whole different ballgame.

 

[Dunki]

So you haven't seen the movie yet? You haven't seen the mid-scredits scene? What.

I have read spoiler reviews and opinions. People who love the marvel movie universe. People who know about Captain Marvel in the Comics etc. And they say the same thing. She should not be in Endgame but introduced afterwards because now she has become Marvel's Superman who in the end will beat Thanos.

Why do you bring up the dusted heroes? They are dead. It's only the OG avengers left, Scott and Rocket and they will never beat Thanos and undo the snap, they need Carol. Only Iron Man, and Thor hurt Thanos. Thor only hurt him because Thanos did not expect him and wasn't prepared, which is confirmed by the Russos.

Also I do not know but they are NOT DEAD. Spider-man also vanished into dust and Far From Home is set after Infinity War and Endgame to show the after events and how the world has changed

According to Feige, then, Spider-Man: Far From Home will explore the repercussions of both Avengers: Infinity War and Avengers: Endgame. He stressed this is a deliberate decision on Marvel's part, given the MCU will be dramatically reshaped by the events of the two Avengers films. Marvel chose Peter Parker as a character people could empathize with, and believed he was perfectly suited to introduce viewers to the post-Phase 3 MCU, which is why his movie is coming out just two months after Endgame.

https://screenrant.com/spider-man-far-home-before-after-avengers-endgame/