yeahokaywhatever
Member
Depression, stress and heavy drinking definitely add to weight gain.
How do people allow themselves to get fat?
- Thread starter Kazza
- Start date
-Minsc-
Member
I do get annoyed when people mention that I can eat whatever I want and get away with it. There are health issues to think about such as heart disease and diabetes. How much could my diet be affecting my mental clarity? There's also the health issue of my wallet.
Voost Kain
Banned
Actually it's due to income.
I don't buy the generic common "depression etc." for what leads to being fat. There are many things you can inge on and not gain any or if much weight. But if you're eating 10 cans of mountain dew and 3 large bags of doritos that all together cost you $5-6 then that's going to make you fat even if you aren't depressed.
The average 2 liter bottle of American High-Fructose soda is 89 cents trending.
The Average bottle of 1 liter of water is $3,00 trending.
The Average box a artificial boxed dinner is $1.50-$2.50 based on size.
The Average cost of real food, even for cooking at home yourself is $6-$10 for the same amounts of food as the artificial boxed dinners.
It doesn't take much to see why there's a weight issue. Waters the most expensive store sold drink only behind wine and Beer. Ignoring the Beer that costs less than $3.
I don't buy the generic common "depression etc." for what leads to being fat. There are many things you can inge on and not gain any or if much weight. But if you're eating 10 cans of mountain dew and 3 large bags of doritos that all together cost you $5-6 then that's going to make you fat even if you aren't depressed.
The average 2 liter bottle of American High-Fructose soda is 89 cents trending.
The Average bottle of 1 liter of water is $3,00 trending.
The Average box a artificial boxed dinner is $1.50-$2.50 based on size.
The Average cost of real food, even for cooking at home yourself is $6-$10 for the same amounts of food as the artificial boxed dinners.
It doesn't take much to see why there's a weight issue. Waters the most expensive store sold drink only behind wine and Beer. Ignoring the Beer that costs less than $3.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I mean, you're right. Income is definitely a factor, but so is mental health, you can't just say it's one or the other. It can be either or both.
TheShadowLord
Member
You can get more servings out when cooking home food than buying boxed meals. Depends on what you're cooking, though.But time is more of a problem so I bought an instant pot.
Last edited:
Paasei
Member
I've been quite fat a long time ago, simply because of an addiction of sofa's because of the sugar.
Been a long run to get on proper weight again.
So now I am at 93KG (was at around 125) at a height of 203cm. Actually working on getting some muscles since January this year.
Been a long run to get on proper weight again.
So now I am at 93KG (was at around 125) at a height of 203cm. Actually working on getting some muscles since January this year.
Last edited:
Voost Kain
Banned
If they were binging on healthy food I don't think it would be as easy to get fat, it's really mostly income. Hence why women are generically known to swap for the big rectangular Ice Cream boxes as a depression stereotype. Because that is the cheapest among the ice cream.
Ailynn
Faith - Hope - Love
Absolutely...after 40 years old, it becomes vastly more difficult to stay in shape.
When I was a kid, I could eat as much food as I could stuff myself with and stay skinny as a rail. Now, I hover between 800 to 1200 calories and walk at least 2 miles a day...and I still struggle to lose weight. (Of course, high estrogen / low testosterone levels also play a part in that as well.)
Voost Kain
Banned
Sounds like you are eating cheap food. I would suggest getting two jobs so you can buy a
For example, you can get a nice healthy 2 liter high frutose soda for only $1. Er....
I mean what I meant to say was you can buy a 20oz bottle of water for only $15.
Dangit.
Later Alligator
Member
i have wondered this my entire life, and i still haven't figured it out
i'm not talking about people being a bit chubby or overweight. shit happens, some people don't like exercise and getting in shape is low on their priority list. i get it.
but getting to the point of obese or morbidly obese. there was nothing on the journey there that hinted they should do something about it?
i'm not talking about people being a bit chubby or overweight. shit happens, some people don't like exercise and getting in shape is low on their priority list. i get it.
but getting to the point of obese or morbidly obese. there was nothing on the journey there that hinted they should do something about it?
Red Crayon Aristocrat
Member
There's no rules, so get phat.
AaronB
Member
Sedentary lifestyle is probably the biggest factor. When I lived in a small city and walked everywhere, I was a lot healthier.
Then there are bunch of factors that tend to go hand-in-hand: injuries or chronic pain make it hard to exercise, painkiller medications can cause weight gain, depression saps energy (and gets worse with lack of exercise), and round and round.
Then there are bunch of factors that tend to go hand-in-hand: injuries or chronic pain make it hard to exercise, painkiller medications can cause weight gain, depression saps energy (and gets worse with lack of exercise), and round and round.
Ownage
Member
Speaking for myself, I'm 40+ and my genetics have led me to where my thyroid no longer functions. In any other era, I'd be dead; modern medicine keeps me alive. Because my thyroid doesn't work, I can gain weight like breathing, and losing takes a considerably greater effort than with other people my age. I'm very healthy otherwise, not depressed, and have a good life with a good partner. With education and discipline, I don't drink anymore, get 8-9h sleep each day, attempt to contain the stress from work and bullshit, rarely if ever eat any desserts, and cut out pasta. Most of my meals are clean, real food, eaten between 9am-5pm (never after 6pm to aid in digestion before sleep) and my habit is 4 days a week at least of a mega salad with chicken, beans and veg. Chipotle, believe it or not, can be very healthy if you get a burrito bowl, single chicken, white rice, black beans, tiny sour cream, tiny cheese, and quadruple lettuce.
In short, some people are blessed with flawed genes and are stuck with the results.
In short, some people are blessed with flawed genes and are stuck with the results.
Last edited:
bitbydeath
Member
Kids
cryptoadam
Banned
I don't know, 24 bottle waters is like what 2.50-3 bucks? Its usually on special. AT worse you get 12 for 2.50 for sure.
Chicken breast is usually 5 for about 15-18 dollars. Box of rice is 3-4 bucks, and some frozen vegies about 2 bucks.
Also very lazy man meal. Throw chicken breast and frozen veggie in over for 30-40 mins. Rice in pot for 10 mins. Thats it you are done. Lazyiest meal possible.
Chicken breast is usually 5 for about 15-18 dollars. Box of rice is 3-4 bucks, and some frozen vegies about 2 bucks.
Also very lazy man meal. Throw chicken breast and frozen veggie in over for 30-40 mins. Rice in pot for 10 mins. Thats it you are done. Lazyiest meal possible.
waxer
Member
Bottled water is expensive lol. Stop making excuses and bottle your own. Better for environment and your wallet. Cheaper than soda.
There are lots of healthy choices that don't cost to much. Sometimes you may have to make bigger serves and package, freeze them. But again it comes down to how much effort your willing to put in.
Start doing stuff like growing microgreens which is piss easy, can be done indoors and taste delicious and you can cut down on vege bills.
Cheap fast food as general rule tastes shit. Imo. Vs cooking your own meal. It's only nice if your having it once in a while.
I don't even bother with gym. Just go tramping or jogging. I tend to go with making sure my lifestyle and eating habbits are delicious but good rather than worry about diets fasting skip days or anything.
I went for a swim with my 2 year old the other day and all the family rooms (which I wanted for change table) were full.
All fat people. Wife asks why they all assholes and change there. They should feel bad. I said if they don't give a fuck about themeselves it's wishfull thinking that they would give a shit about you.
There are lots of healthy choices that don't cost to much. Sometimes you may have to make bigger serves and package, freeze them. But again it comes down to how much effort your willing to put in.
Start doing stuff like growing microgreens which is piss easy, can be done indoors and taste delicious and you can cut down on vege bills.
Cheap fast food as general rule tastes shit. Imo. Vs cooking your own meal. It's only nice if your having it once in a while.
I don't even bother with gym. Just go tramping or jogging. I tend to go with making sure my lifestyle and eating habbits are delicious but good rather than worry about diets fasting skip days or anything.
I went for a swim with my 2 year old the other day and all the family rooms (which I wanted for change table) were full.
All fat people. Wife asks why they all assholes and change there. They should feel bad. I said if they don't give a fuck about themeselves it's wishfull thinking that they would give a shit about you.
Dark Star
Member
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Sweets are fueling people's engines, here's the thing OP, a majority of the nation is obese and for whomever lost weight share your ideas!
DiscoJer
Member
Slowing metabolism as you age is a thing. I'm 5'11 and was 150 at 16 and stayed around (and 28 to 30" waist) that until I was 30, at which I increased to 180 and 32, now in my mid 40s I am 230 and 34". If anything, I now eat less (much less, used to drink 2x as much soda and eat a pack of candy a day) and am much more active.
Still, I think for most people, the reality is that healthy food tastes like crap.
Still, I think for most people, the reality is that healthy food tastes like crap.
God Enel
Member
That's kinda interesting. Anywhere I can read up on that?
My take on all of this. There a thousands of reasons some have depression, others are sick, some are lazy, some can't control their craving.
But I think especially in the lower educated families they simply don't know what's "good" and what's not.
I'm not fat or anything but what I have noticed on myself. When I stop working out I also stop eating clean, so continuously working out is definitely my solution to my problem. Even then I can have a cheat meal every now and then, misty during weekends. And since I'm sitting a lot during weekdays a diet is quite good.
Chairman Tickles
Banned
Laziness and a crap diet. Mainly high sugar content. These lead to extra chubby people. There is nothing easier for your body to do, than to accumulate energy from sugars and store that in your fat cells. The morbidly obese often also have a damaged thyroid induced hormone imbalance to go with their stunted diet making the weight gain more pronounced.
The fact that most people are overweight in the developed world is due to sedentary lifestyles and fast food (which is sugar rich).
I'm a mesomorph, I can gain and lose weight rapidly. Which prompted a gym addiction. 2 years on, I went from 93kg, to 121kg @ 186cm. No belly fat just thicc muscles and shit. Lot's of shit. My turds are huge. I eat 6-8x a day, ~6,000+ calories daily. Mostly fiber and protein with some carbs to fuel the process. Seriously you should see my shits. But even more impressive are my lifts.
The fact that most people are overweight in the developed world is due to sedentary lifestyles and fast food (which is sugar rich).
I'm a mesomorph, I can gain and lose weight rapidly. Which prompted a gym addiction. 2 years on, I went from 93kg, to 121kg @ 186cm. No belly fat just thicc muscles and shit. Lot's of shit. My turds are huge. I eat 6-8x a day, ~6,000+ calories daily. Mostly fiber and protein with some carbs to fuel the process. Seriously you should see my shits. But even more impressive are my lifts.
Last edited:
waxer
Member
youtube is probably easiest but it's super simple. Buy bulk seeds and some seed raising soil and put in trays. Sprinkle seeds on top, plus water it each day. Super simple.
lots ways to grow them.
Just cut off above soil to harvest after about 2 weeks. More nutrition than their fully grown counterparts and can be done in an apartment.
people build shelf setups that stack so can time each tray so some for every day of week
StreetsofBeige
Member
A lot of you make good points, but to me it's a combo, as people said:
Money. I agree. If you got cash, you can what you want and pig out. I make decent money, so I buy what I want and eat out almost every day and not care
Convenience. Unless you eat at some salad only joint, most places sell junky food. And it comes fast too. And assuming you don't live in the middle of nowhere, every few blocks is food joint or gas station you can buy stuff fast
Laziness or simply not giving a fuck. Guess what? Even McDonald's sells salads, milk and apple slices. Guess how many people go there to eat a garden salad with no dressing and a yogurt..... hardly anyone. Guess what's on the front page of your weekly grocery store flyer? Probably promoting fruits, meat and milk at a good price. What do people do? Buy a bag of apples, followed by chips, pop and sugary cereal
Depression. If you're broke or living a crap life, eating a plate of carrots and chicken breast is going to make you more sour. You're going to at least enjoy eating something..... probably a pizza or beer to drown your sorrows.
It mostly comes down to diet. And humans are smart enough to engineer their own food that tastes better and easier than mother nature makes. So we eat that instead of growing turnips in the backyard.
Money. I agree. If you got cash, you can what you want and pig out. I make decent money, so I buy what I want and eat out almost every day and not care
Convenience. Unless you eat at some salad only joint, most places sell junky food. And it comes fast too. And assuming you don't live in the middle of nowhere, every few blocks is food joint or gas station you can buy stuff fast
Laziness or simply not giving a fuck. Guess what? Even McDonald's sells salads, milk and apple slices. Guess how many people go there to eat a garden salad with no dressing and a yogurt..... hardly anyone. Guess what's on the front page of your weekly grocery store flyer? Probably promoting fruits, meat and milk at a good price. What do people do? Buy a bag of apples, followed by chips, pop and sugary cereal
Depression. If you're broke or living a crap life, eating a plate of carrots and chicken breast is going to make you more sour. You're going to at least enjoy eating something..... probably a pizza or beer to drown your sorrows.
It mostly comes down to diet. And humans are smart enough to engineer their own food that tastes better and easier than mother nature makes. So we eat that instead of growing turnips in the backyard.
Last edited:
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
Instead of exercising or eating right, they are posting on NeoGAF. It's easy. I'm doing it right now.
S
SLoWMoTIoN
Unconfirmed Member
OP your answer lies here
betrayal
Banned
Some people here said getting fat is easy the older you are. That is not true. Age is not a factor for becoming fat. There are many studies who back this up. An decrease of the RMR (resting metabolic rate) because you get older is not the reason. Getting lazy, always living in your comfort zone and not having basic knowledge about nutrition gets you fat. Period.
A day has 24 hours, no matter if you are 10, 20, 40 or 60 years old.
If you're 40 years old, 2 kids, fulltime job und you're fat then i'm sorry to disappoint you, but you're not fat because of the circumstances around you, but because of the decisions you've made every single day. There is always time for activities. There's always a choice to eat crap and processed food with a high caloric density or other healthy alternatives.
Your statements about nutrition, sugar and obsolete body types were already adventurous, but come on dude. I'm the same height, hitting the gym 4 times a week for many years and knowing some bodybuilders who even compete on a national professional level. Assuming you're natural and being 186cm and 121 kg. Congrats, you are fat. Really fat. And yes, i would like to see your "shits".
I bet 5000$ that you are a) lying (and just fat) or you're on steroids for many years with 1500mg cyp 1-2x a week, daily HGH, 500-1000mg deca 2x a week plus some other orals. Maybe you just have a distorted perception of your body, but please stop spreading such bullshit, because many people and teenager believe this shit.
PS: If you were trolling. You got me.
A day has 24 hours, no matter if you are 10, 20, 40 or 60 years old.
If you're 40 years old, 2 kids, fulltime job und you're fat then i'm sorry to disappoint you, but you're not fat because of the circumstances around you, but because of the decisions you've made every single day. There is always time for activities. There's always a choice to eat crap and processed food with a high caloric density or other healthy alternatives.
Your statements about nutrition, sugar and obsolete body types were already adventurous, but come on dude. I'm the same height, hitting the gym 4 times a week for many years and knowing some bodybuilders who even compete on a national professional level. Assuming you're natural and being 186cm and 121 kg. Congrats, you are fat. Really fat. And yes, i would like to see your "shits".
I bet 5000$ that you are a) lying (and just fat) or you're on steroids for many years with 1500mg cyp 1-2x a week, daily HGH, 500-1000mg deca 2x a week plus some other orals. Maybe you just have a distorted perception of your body, but please stop spreading such bullshit, because many people and teenager believe this shit.
PS: If you were trolling. You got me.
Last edited:
Chairman Tickles
Banned
Nope. Thanks for the compliment. Just niche Dinaric slav genetics + an overabundance of natural testosterone. I'm part of the glorious <0.2% master race. Most of us grow real tall (195cm+) I instead have shoulders that are much wider than even the average adriatic slavic bear. Most of my mass is in the torso. I could probably bear hug and crush you.
As for supplements, I only use 5g of creatine every morning, and some Gingko Biloba for improved blood flow. The key ingredients are genetics, ~3-4 days at the gym weekly, and a big diet.
And dude, I know where you're coming from. I see your kind in the gym every day. I don't hate on anglo-saxon manlets, I pity them. I see guys that are a head taller than me, whom I could break like twigs. I also see guys like you. Very slim, very lean, high-rep products, nice to look at in the mirror no doubt, but very weak and look like toys next to me. You'd snap like a twig too. Stop hating on me bro. Worship your superiors and learn to accept that not all men are created equal. There are extreme outliers.
Last edited:
betrayal
Banned
Last edited:
Chairman Tickles
Banned
Thanks for the ongoing, involuntary compliments. Feels good on the ol' ego.
If you can't picture a well defined, 121kg, 186cm man, maybe travel to Eastern Europe once upon a time. There are body types other than fat that exist in that range. Sometimes even a 7ft giant with a whopping 15kg skeleton will have a skeleton that is lighter than a 6ft guy. Broaden your horizons.
If you can't picture a well defined, 121kg, 186cm man, maybe travel to Eastern Europe once upon a time. There are body types other than fat that exist in that range. Sometimes even a 7ft giant with a whopping 15kg skeleton will have a skeleton that is lighter than a 6ft guy. Broaden your horizons.
Last edited:
KonradLaw
Member
Because being obese is most of the time the result of addiction to crap food. And it follows the same patterns as any other addiction. They will rationalize their choices and make excuses, but they're not thinking rational any more than alcoholic does when he says "just this one beer". If you're not an addict you will never understand fully how it works.
Last edited:
betrayal
Banned
Thanks for the ongoing, involuntary compliments. Feels good on the ol' ego.
If you can't picture a well defined, 121kg, 186cm man, maybe travel to Eastern Europe once upon a time. There are body types other than fat that exist in that range. Sometimes even a 7ft giant with a whopping 15kg skeleton will have a skeleton that is lighter than a 6ft guy. Broaden your horizons.
Stop shitposting please. I know i offended your ego but i recommend to not going down this road, because i don't like humiliating people in public.
Remember that i promised you 5000$ if you're a natural lean guy with 121 kg @ 186cm, which would be a world first btw. But of course 5000$ would be nothing for you, because you are probably already a multi-millionaire because of your body.
Being heavier than a juiced up Arnold Schwarzenegger or Dwayne Johnson during their best times while at the same time being smaller is a great success and i don't even want to start to compare you with current professional bodybuilders.
Last edited:
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Do you seriously want to get fatter? You need to combine food
Category A:
Cola
Lemonade
Juice
Beer
Gummy Bears
The various Kellogg's products except unsweetened corn flakes
Category B:
Sausage
Pizza
Hamburgers
Butter sticks
Fries
Crisps / Chips
Cream sauce (e.g. with Pasta, like Spaghetti Carbonara)
Whenever you eat, pick one of category A and one of category B. Do not drink any water before you are full. Try to eat at least thrice a day.
In between, if you are not full anymore, eat some of the joker food from category C:
cake
cookies
chocolate
Weigh yourself weekly, to not overshoot.
betrayal
Banned
Did you ever track you calories correctly? The chances are pretty high that this would shed some light on your struggle to gain weight and that you're probably eating less calories than you think you do.
I don't know how old are you, but based on your height it's highly likely you need something between 3000 - 4000 calories per day.
Chairman Tickles
Banned
Keep stroking my ego.
I didn't say I was competition lean, I said I am not fat and that I have well defined musculature. No abs, but a flat belly. What is your definition of overweight btw? If it's anything >18% Bf, then you are not worthy of my time. I expect you to say <15% or else we have a big fat problem.
betrayal
Banned
Chairman Tickles
Banned
M
Macapala
Unconfirmed Member
This. I stopped eating/drinking sugary shit and I've lost 4kg over the last three weeks.
Sugar is an addiction just like nicotine and alcohol.
betrayal
Banned
That's not because of the sugar, but because you were in a caloric deficit, because you ate less calories. So your weight loss is not directly related to sugar. If someone eats 1000kg of broccoli per day he will gain weight and has to eat less broccoli to lose weight.
But you're probably right with the "sugar is an addiction" stuff.
JimmyJones
Banned
They eat too much, simple. Smaller people gain weight easier than taller people.
Lanrutcon
Member
Weird thread.
In modern society we have it easy, so less need to burn calories. Meanwhile it's easier than ever to get food. You eat more calories than you burn, so you gain weight. Then you either change your lifestyle or it continues. Most people aren't in a position to make that change, or don't want to, or simply can't be bothered.
If you posses the income to eat healthy, the time to gym and don't work a job where you sit down for 9 hours a day then it's probably easier...but it's probably more to do with willpower/drive than anything else.
Also, age isn't factor? Comedy gold.
In modern society we have it easy, so less need to burn calories. Meanwhile it's easier than ever to get food. You eat more calories than you burn, so you gain weight. Then you either change your lifestyle or it continues. Most people aren't in a position to make that change, or don't want to, or simply can't be bothered.
If you posses the income to eat healthy, the time to gym and don't work a job where you sit down for 9 hours a day then it's probably easier...but it's probably more to do with willpower/drive than anything else.
Also, age isn't factor? Comedy gold.
betrayal
Banned
Age isn't a direct factor. It's reduced activity and muscle loss. Both are things you can change.
I mean come on, seriously. When do people finally start to think for themselves. Do you thought as we get older our bodies become more efficient and therefore need less energy/calories? And maybe, if we could get 500 years old, we are suddenly biological wonders and we are living perpetuum mobiles?
The effect of an decreased resting/basal metabolic rate is very small, but if you're looking for apologies it sure as hell is very convincing....until you face the facts.
11% slower RMR, age 70 compared to 40, mainly due to loss of 9 kg of muscle mass -> https://www.physiology.org/doi/pdf/10.1152/jappl.1977.43.6.1001
Age 60-74 burns 122 fewer calories compared to age 20-34 / after accounting muscle loss the difference is 24 calories (difference between an age over 90 vs 20-34 is 53 calories) -> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19190667
And there are many many more studies. In fact i don't know a single serious study who says something different. Many, if not all, researches clearly prove, that losing muscle and being less active are by far the biggest reasons why your metabolism slows down. Everything else only has minor effects.
Last edited:
Lanrutcon
Member
This sounds like propaganda, son. You with your fancy googles and interwebs. In my day we respected our elders! And had to walk 60 miles through bear infested woodlands to do so! I bet you don't even know how to milk a cow, much less bayonet a man to death in defense of your country. Humpf.
(I will get back to you on this topic once I get older(er))