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[Barnabot]

LOL. I guess ERA won't be buying the new Darksiders game because virtue signaling.

New Darksiders game that takes series in a new direction leaked by E3 Coliseum

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www.resetera.com

There's even @fantonema as a guest star trying to make there difference there. Hi fantonema.

 

[Bstamp]

Oh shit. Apparently I, a left-leaning liberal, am totally not welcome here because this guy said it, it must be true.

Well, the fact you're a "left leaning liberal" who happens to visit this forum is not mutually exclusive from it being unwelcoming to people of your self-professed bent.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

I was also a Child Prostitute and (unrelated) former Nascar Pit crew member. Plus a few other things like Ice Road Trucker.

How do I feel about THQ? THQ DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY OF MY LIFE EXPERIENCES... GOOD OR BAD FFS!

 

[Fake]

Hmm, we should address that.

Is neogaf had a twitter account? That auto tweeting new posts, etc...

 

[ipukespiders]

When I was 7 years old I was raped in a Sears parking lot by a unicorn. A couple of my friends had Atari 2600s and two others had C64s. I wish I wasn't so poor as a child.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

When I was 7 years old I was raped in a Sears parking lot by a unicorn.

Yuck...

Shopping at Sears?

 

[ipukespiders]

Yuck...

Shopping at Sears?

Not shopping. Receiving the rape.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Not shopping. Receiving the rape.

But why go to a Sears to begin with?

 

[ipukespiders]

But why go to a Sears to begin with?

Lingerie section of the glorious Sears catalog drew me there.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Well, the fact you're a "left leaning liberal" who happens to visit this forum is not mutually exclusive from it being unwelcoming to people of your self-professed bent.

Bruv, most people here *are* left-leaning liberals. It isn't unwelcoming unless you have skin thinner than graphene and a personality that not even the most zealous of martyrs would love.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Lingerie section of the glorious Sears catalog drew me there.

Click bait before there was click bait and your b hole paid the price.

I promise to never do business with Sears or Unicorns again

#IAmHelpingThingsToo

 

[railven]

Lingerie section of the glorious Sears catalog drew me there.

Jesus, I've lurked for years randomly posting, but this exchange made me laugh so I just had to pop in and kudos you two! Great sense of humor.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

Jesus, I've lurked for years randomly posting, but this exchange made me laugh so I just had to pop in and kudos you two! Great sense of humor.

Don't log out

 

[Barnabot]

So no hard feelings if I ever buy Biomutant (THQ)?

 

[nush]

LOL. I guess ERA won't be buying the new Darksiders game because virtue signaling.

New Darksiders game that takes series in a new direction leaked by E3 Coliseum

removed

www.resetera.com

There's even @fantonema as a guest star trying to make there difference there. Hi fantonema.

Eras justice boner getting blue balled over THQ and realising they are not as influential as they think will never not be funny. The crazy logic of THQ is full of child porn supporters should show anyone how that community is out of touch.

 

[Barnabot]

Eras justice boner getting blue balled over THQ and realising they are not as influential as they think will never not be funny. The crazy logic of THQ is full of child porn supporters should show anyone how that community is out of touch.

Era being so full of shit in that situation. Before they make bold statement they should check the receipts they have in hands.

 

[JordanN]

Certainly not "liberal," 'leftist" or welcoming to people of that bent.

Oh man, I forgot to reply to this post before I went to bed. *Ahem*

You know, I haven't completely abandoned left-wing talking points. In fact, look at my first reply to that Canadian ERA poll from last page:

Off-site Community Discussion (Reset, etc.) -- READ OP. Stay civil. Don't make it personal. Keep it in here.

It's no coincidence that so many "insiders" popped up exactly when games companies started wanting to control exactly how they message their game, rather than it sporadically appearing in exclusive magazine reveals, podcasts and events etc. There are people like Serkan Toto and Takashi...

www.neogaf.com

The results are just what you would expect from a left leaning site like Resetera but it's still terrifying that there is absolutely no nuance.


Me personally speaking, I hate both parties right now. I will probably vote Conservative just because they're the only ones who are not turbo SJW/identity politics but the beliefs are still nearly all the same.

Why would a "conservative" person advocate for more "balanced" politics? Because I recognized that both extremes are bad.

My only problem with modern leftism is that I do not like how it completely devolves from originally being about worker's rights and anti-war, to now just being a corporate mouthpiece hell bent on forcing the multicultural agenda on us.

But I know what you're thinking. "But JordanN, the conservative parties can just as easily be stereotyped as being a party about corporations too and religious dogmatism" which is also true.

Both the terms "left" & "right" have quickly lost any real meaning. It's because both parties have seemingly accepted a new phenomena called "post-nation state". They do not see their nations as a long and historical culture group worth preserving. Instead, they're both concerned with taking capitalism to the max and dissolving any national identity in exchange for making a quick buck.

For further proof of this, there is no major politician out there in the Western world willing to address the declining birth rate issue. How could both left & right pretend such a crisis does not exist? Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau, Merkel, Theresa May, no head of state of these countries has ever mentioned what is their solution to the fact practically all Western nations are below replacement level. The only country close to the West that has tried this is Hungary, but I've seen the media now paint them as Nazis for literally trying to save their own country.

So that's where my political beliefs lie.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Oh man, I forgot to reply to this post before I went to bed. *Ahem*

You know, I haven't completely abandoned left-wing talking points. In fact, look at my first reply to that Canadian ERA poll from last page:

Off-site Community Discussion (Reset, etc.) -- READ OP. Stay civil. Don't make it personal. Keep it in here.

It's no coincidence that so many "insiders" popped up exactly when games companies started wanting to control exactly how they message their game, rather than it sporadically appearing in exclusive magazine reveals, podcasts and events etc. There are people like Serkan Toto and Takashi...

www.neogaf.com

Why would a "conservative" person advocate for more "balanced" politics? Because I recognized that both extremes are bad.

My only problem with modern leftism is that I do not like how it completely devolves from originally being about worker's rights and anti-war, to now just being a corporate mouthpiece hell bent on forcing the multicultural agenda on us.

But I know what you're thinking. "But JordanN, the conservative parties can just as easily be stereotyped as being a party about corporations too and religious dogmatism" which is also true.

Both the terms "left" & "right" have quickly lost any real meaning. It's because both parties have seemingly accepted a new phenomena called "post-nation state". They do not see their nations as a long and historical culture group worth preserving. Instead, they're both concerned with taking capitalism to the max and dissolving any national identity in exchange for making a quick buck.

For further proof of this, there is no major politician out there in the Western world willing to address the declining birth rate issue. How could both left & right pretend such a crisis does not exist? Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau, Merkel, Theresa May, no head of state of these countries has ever mentioned what is their solution to the fact practically all Western nations are below replacement level. The only country close to the West that has tried this is Hungary, but I've seen the media now paint them as Nazis for literally trying to save their own country.

So that's where my political beliefs lie.

A bit off topic, but on your birth rate mention:

It isn't a crisis. We, as a race, are still ballooning in population across the world. We could stand to drop birth rates by a good bit and we still would be fine.

 

[JordanN]

A bit off topic, but on your birth rate mention:

It isn't a crisis. We, as a race, are still ballooning in population across the world. We could stand to drop birth rates by a good bit and we still would be fine.

I'm talking about Western countries. The countries that pop out 8 babies per mother are obviously not in trouble.

 

[Dr. Claus]

I'm talking about Western countries. The countries that pop out 8 babies per mother are obviously not in trouble.

And that is why Adoption/immigration exists. Still not a crisis.

 

[JordanN]

And that is why Adoption/immigration exists. Still not a crisis.

The solution to France's population decline should not be to replace them with more Germans and for Germany, it is not to replace them with more French.
Both groups are distinct, having formed their own cultures over hundreds of years.

I do not want to see a world where all cultural and ethnic uniqueness dies, to be replaced with a single monolithic entity of mass consumers.

Look at East Asian countries and despite them also going through a similar crisis, it is still apparent that their culture and identity will be preserved because they are very strict about how many people from foreign countries are allowed to stay and they are always under constant pressure to assimilate or be kicked out.

You cannot replace an ethnic group with another one. That is simple genetics that will be lost forever if we don't try and raise our own birth rates naturally.

 

[Bstamp]

Bruv, most people here *are* left-leaning liberals. It isn't unwelcoming unless you have skin thinner than graphene and a personality that not even the most zealous of martyrs would love.

You and I clearly have two, very distinct ideas of "left-leaning." It defies reason that you can look at the post history of this forum's most active members, since the "great migration," and ascertain that this forum is a hospitable environment for those on the left. The 'Politics' sub-forum is teeming with Trumpets, Islamaphobes, Xenophobes and racists. Other sub-forums, while not dedicated to political discussion, have a discernible undercurrent informed by rightist thought.

 

[Bstamp]

Oh man, I forgot to reply to this post before I went to bed. *Ahem*

You know, I haven't completely abandoned left-wing talking points. In fact, look at my first reply to that Canadian ERA poll from last page:

Off-site Community Discussion (Reset, etc.) -- READ OP. Stay civil. Don't make it personal. Keep it in here.

It's no coincidence that so many "insiders" popped up exactly when games companies started wanting to control exactly how they message their game, rather than it sporadically appearing in exclusive magazine reveals, podcasts and events etc. There are people like Serkan Toto and Takashi...

www.neogaf.com

Why would a "conservative" person advocate for more "balanced" politics? Because I recognized that both extremes are bad.

My only problem with modern leftism is that I do not like how it completely devolves from originally being about worker's rights and anti-war, to now just being a corporate mouthpiece hell bent on forcing the multicultural agenda on us.

But I know what you're thinking. "But JordanN, the conservative parties can just as easily be stereotyped as being a party about corporations too and religious dogmatism" which is also true.

Both the terms "left" & "right" have quickly lost any real meaning. It's because both parties have seemingly accepted a new phenomena called "post-nation state". They do not see their nations as a long and historical culture group worth preserving. Instead, they're both concerned with taking capitalism to the max and dissolving any national identity in exchange for making a quick buck.

For further proof of this, there is no major politician out there in the Western world willing to address the declining birth rate issue. How could both left & right pretend such a crisis does not exist? Donald Trump, Justin Trudeau, Merkel, Theresa May, no head of state of these countries has ever mentioned what is their solution to the fact practically all Western nations are below replacement level. The only country close to the West that has tried this is Hungary, but I've seen the media now paint them as Nazis for literally trying to save their own country.

So that's where my political beliefs lie.

You mean the declining white birthrate issue, don't you? The birth rate of every other group is increasing, with many concerned that the population growth in Africa and Asia is not sustainable in the face of disastrous changes to our climate. So, if you're concerned about the declining rate of white births, why not come out and say that? Because doing so would open you up to charges of being a racialist, someone who believes the human race is divided among "races" and that a decline in white births is something to be alarmed about. No one on the left cares about a decline in white births, believing we're all in this together.

 

[JordanN]

You mean the declining white birthrate issue, don't you? The birth rate of every other group is increasing, with many concerned that the population growth in Africa and Asia is not sustainable in the face of disastrous changes to our climate. So, if you're concerned about the declining rate of white births, why not come out and say that? Because doing so would open you up to charges of being a racialist, someone who believes the human race is divided among "races" and that a decline in white births is something to be alarmed about. No one on the left cares about a decline in white births, believing we're all in this together.

Well Native Indians are also dying out, but I never once heard a left-wing politician said we should fix that.

So no, it's not about "we're all in this together". It's quite obvious that immigration (from non-Western sources) is being used as a low effort stop gap to address a problem that is more complex than just "lets just invite the entire world inside our borders What could go wrong?".

We already have working examples of why this is going to end in disaster.

 

[Bstamp]

Well Native Indians are also dying out, but I never once heard a left-wing politician said we should fix that.

So no, it's not about "we're all in this together". It's quite obvious that immigration (from non-Western sources) is being used as a low effort stop gap to address a problem that is more complex than just "lets just invite the entire world inside our borders What could go wrong?".

We already have working examples of why this is going to end in disaster.

You think non-white immigrants are being encouraged to invade Western countries to shore up a declining white birthrate? Does that make even the slightest bit of sense when you step back and actually think about it?

 

[JordanN]

You think non-white immigrants are being encouraged to invade Western countries to shore up a declining white birthrate? Does that make even the slightest bit of sense when you step back and actually think about it?

I do not think it's something Politicians will overtly come out and say it in the open.
But evidence does point towards the fact that they increasingly benefit from such immigration.

Which is also confirmed by voting patterns.

More immigration = more likely to vote.

 

[Musky_Cheese]

You and I clearly have two, very distinct ideas of "left-leaning." It defies reason that you can look at the post history of this forum's most active members, since the "great migration," and ascertain that this forum is a hospitable environment for those on the left. The 'Politics' sub-forum is teeming with Trumpets, Islamaphobes, Xenophobes and racists. Other sub-forums, while not dedicated to political discussion, have a discernible undercurrent informed by rightist thought.

So why not tell us what your definition of Left Leaning is?

I would say show the receipts, but don't bother. The vast majority of members who post here everyday, or even casually don't post in the politics sub forum.

I'm not sure what you mean by hospitable. You are allowed to speak your mind as long as you don't break the rules. It's hospitable to anyone Left/Center/Right as long as you don't break the rules. And you the user has a number of tools at your disposal to ignore any member or topic you desire.

Its only not hospitable to member that thinks their made up rules are the standard. No more of the "right kind or racist/sexist behavior". No more of the bullshit excuses of Punching up or down.

If you say "I hope all the <BLANK> people die"... you will get banned. Now, unlike before, any group you fill in the blank with will get you banned. Welcome to test that BUT I SUGGEST YOU NOT!!!

We here now have Gaffers from all over the world. Every shade of color, every known gender, wide range of ages, wide range of backgrounds.

But make no mistake, having the position that
A) Gaming Journalism largely sucks
B) Not for Illegal Immigration
C) Not rushing to judgement
D) Many other things
Are not Far Right, Alt Right, Nazi, or Hateful positions. Many who are left leaning or simply left hold these positions.

Because no matter how far some people go Left or Right, Center is still Center.

So what is Left Leaning to you?

 

[Bstamp]

I do not think it's something Politicians will overtly come out and say it in the open.
But evidence does point towards the fact that they increasingly benefit from such immigration.

Which is also confirmed by voting patterns.

More immigration = more likely to vote.

This is what you said: "It's quite obvious that immigration (from non-Western sources) is being used as a low effort stop gap "

I'm assuming you meant a stop gap to the declining birthrate of whites, correct? If that's what you meant, how would the mass immigration of non-whites stave that off?

 

[JordanN]

This is what you said: "It's quite obvious that immigration (from non-Western sources) is being used as a low effort stop gap "

I'm assuming you meant a stop gap to the declining birthrate of whites, correct? If that's what you meant, how would the mass immigration of non-whites stave that off?

I don't understand what you mean?
More people from non-European countries will come here and boost their numbers. As trends show, they will eventually become the new majority.
I did not say that would stop the White or Native Indian decline. Quite the opposite.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

You and I clearly have two, very distinct ideas of "left-leaning." It defies reason that you can look at the post history of this forum's most active members, since the "great migration," and ascertain that this forum is a hospitable environment for those on the left. The 'Politics' sub-forum is teeming with Trumpets, Islamaphobes, Xenophobes and racists. Other sub-forums, while not dedicated to political discussion, have a discernible undercurrent informed by rightist thought.

Why sign up for GAF if you're merely going to spend your time stomping your feet and crying about "Trumpets"? I mean, surely that can't be a fulfilling use of your time. None of us give a shit about your tantrums unless you can bring something meaningful to the table. The regulars here have put up with ~18 months of this childishness already.

 

[Bstamp]

I don't understand what you mean?
More people from non-European countries will come here and boost their numbers. As trends show, they will eventually become the new majority.
I did not say that would stop the White or Native Indian decline. Quite the opposite.

A stop gap for what? I thought you were talking about the declining births of whites in Western countries. How would more non-whites flooding these countries mitigate that? A "stop gap" is a temporary solution. Wouldn't the influx of brown faces only accelerate the white population's drive to minority status? Or, are you saying that is the goal of the leftists?

 

[Ol'Scratch]

ITT I am reminded that being unbiased is a bad thing

I promise I will learn how to quote better

 

[JordanN]

A stop gap for what? I thought you were talking about the declining births of whites in Western countries. How would more non-whites flooding these countries mitigate that? A "stop gap" is a temporary solution. Wouldn't the influx of brown faces only accelerate the white population's drive to minority status?

Are we reading the same posts? I just answered that.

Or, are you saying that is the goal of the leftists?

I think it's an unconscious reaction. It's happening but no one will outright admit it because it will obviously awaken a lot of people on what's going on.

We have the facts. Politicians are deliberately or subconsciously watching the native populations of Western countries die, and are quickly replacing them with non-native ones instead.

 

[Bstamp]

Are we reading the same posts? I just answered that.


I think it's an unconscious reaction. It's happening but no one will outright admit it because it will obviously awaken a lot of people on what's going on.

We have the facts. Politicians are deliberately or subconsciously watching the native populations of Western countries die, and are quickly replacing them with non-native ones instead.

Let's say you're right, for the sake of argument. Is this necessarily a bad thing? Obviously, white people aren't going anywhere, so it's not as there's any validity to this "white genocide" malarkey. So, let's say that the Western countries are becoming more diverse, their once homogeneously white populations undergoing a browning effect thanks to an influx of immigrants from non-white nations. When you look at the voting patterns of these immigrants, how they support politicians who actually wish to address the existential threat of climate change, is it at all that worrisome that white people are losing power in their countries? I look at the world and what the West has done to it, acknowledging the good and the bad, the positive technological advances that have emerged from Western thinkers and the adverse impact of unfettered capitalism. I believe we are now at a point where less Western (read: Anglo) influence on the course of history is a welcome development. It bodes well for this planet and its inhabitants.

 

[JordanN]

Let's say you're right, for the sake of argument. Is this necessarily a bad thing?

Yes.

Multiculturalism for the sake of multiculturalism will kill all uniqueness and will lead us down a future where only consumerist drones and ethnic strife exists.

This is already the case in "multicultural paradises" like Brazil or South Africa. Or hell, just look at the Israel & Palestine conflict.

If you look at the graphs I posted, it was never considered "normal" for all these Western/European countries to suddenly want to become more like Africa or Asia. They were all mostly homogeneous until the later half of the 20th century.

But even putting culture aside, I still don't want to see these people go extinct. Would you go up to a Native Indian and tell him he and his entire tribe are about to die out just to be replaced with someone from China? If you say no, then why wouldn't the same apply with White people? It's quite obvious from a biological point of view, they are just as a unique people as the Native Indians are.

 

[Bstamp]

Yes.

Multiculturalism for the sake of multiculturalism will kill all uniqueness and will lead us down a future where only consumerist drones and ethnic strife exists.

This is already the case in "multicultural paradises" like Brazil or South Africa. Or hell, just look at the Israel & Palestine conflict.

If you look at the graphs I posted, it was never considered "normal" for all these Western/European countries to suddenly want to become more like Africa or Asia. They were all mostly homogeneous until the later half of the 20th century.

The world is literally dying because of unchecked capitalism. Can you tell me the benefit for mankind from allowing Western white majorities to maintain power?

 

[JordanN]

The world is literally dying because of unchecked capitalism. Can you tell me the benefit for mankind from allowing Western white majorities to maintain power?

Name another non-white country that has [successfully] gone to outer space? Name another non-white country that has put a man on the moon?

 

[Bstamp]

Name another non-white country that has [successfully] gone to outer space? Name another non-white country that has put a man on the moon?

Are trips to outer space or touching down on the moon the metrics by which one should judge a nation's capacity to operate in a way that isn't harmful to this planet? Are those two achievements at all relevant to a discussion of how to reverse the ravenous toll capitalism has on our society and the world in which it exists?

 

[Cunth]

shut up bstamp

 

[JordanN]

Are trips to outer space or touching down on the moon the metrics by which one should judge a nation's capacity to operate in a way that isn't harmful to this planet? Are those two achievements at all relevant to a discussion of how to reverse the ravenous toll capitalism has on our society and the world in which it exists?

If I had to choose, I rather go with the Space option than humanity being stuck on a rock that could go extinct if we were to be hit by an asteroid, like what happened with the dinosaurs.

I also feel investing in Space would also have the same benefits with trying to save our planet, since we would develop new technologies meant to increase human survival in more extreme environments while also creating new markets that can lessen our dependence on earth resources by extracting new ones found within the rest of space.

 

[Bstamp]

If I had to choose, I rather go with the Space option than humanity being stuck on a rock that could go extinct if we were to be hit by an asteroid, like what happened with the dinosaurs.

I also feel investing in Space would also have the same benefits with trying to save our planet, since we would develop new technologies meant to increase human survival in more extreme environments while also creating new markets that can lessen our dependence on earth resources by extracting new ones found within the rest of space.

Humanity is far more likely to go extinct because of neoliberalism and unchecked capitalism than an asteroid hitting our planet. Can you tell me the benefit of allowing the current rulers of our universe - as Adam Smith called them, the Masters of Society - to remain at the steering wheel of a car that is now seconds away from careening off a cliff? Polls show that every non-white group is more amenable to a world of socialism than one of capitalism. Do you think that is a coincidence?

 

[JordanN]

Humanity is far more likely to go extinct because of neoliberalism and unchecked capitalism than an asteroid hitting our planet. Can you tell me the benefit of allowing the current rulers of our universe - as Adam Smith called them, the Masters of Society - to remain at the steering wheel of a car that is now seconds away from careening off a cliff? Polls show that every non-white group is more amenable to a world of socialism than one of capitalism. Do you think that is a coincidence?

And how successful are those socialist countries dude?
A capitalist USA is still 100x more healthier than a self destructing Venezuela that is always in constant chaos.

But more importantly, I do not want to see all scientific progress go out the window. For all your cries about Western countries being harmful to the planet, they're also the only ones even offering a solution to how we can reverse this.

In fact, there's nothing about socialist countries that even says they're more environmentally friendly.

 

[Bstamp]

And how successful are those socialist countries dude?

Depends on how you're gauging success. Countries completely free from the yoke of imperialism? Most of these nations are recovering from either colonialism or recent neoliberal tampering that exploited their resources and left them indebted to foreign investors.

A capitalist USA is still 100x more healthier than a self destructing Venezuela that is always in constant chaos.

Venezuela was actually doing quite well under Huge Chavez, who took the profits from her oil industry and distributed it among the people to improve their living conditions. The country only began failing when the U.S. levied sanctions and began funding opposition forces.

But more importantly, I do not want to see all scientific progress go out the window. For all your cries about Western countries being harmful to the planet, they're also the only ones even offering a solution to how we can reverse this.

Why do you assume scientific progress will end if non-whites have more electoral clout in Western democracies? It's not as if white people will not still hold significant positions within these governments. It's also not as if white people who support socialism are not also among those who continue to pioneer groundbreaking technological achievements. You're predicting that the brown hordes will overtake these countries, oust the white people, and turn the West into a third world wasteland.

 

[nush]

Name another non-white country that has [successfully] gone to outer space?

China.

 

[CyberPanda]

Where do your political leanings come from?

 

[JordanN]

Depends on how you're gauging success. Countries completely free from the yoke of imperialism? Most of these nations are recovering from either colonialism or recent neoliberal tampering that exploited their resources and left them indebted to foreign investors.

Sorry, not buying the colonialism excuse.
I say this because world history has always been about other nations conquering each other and still managing to rebuild.
Europe had to endure that twice when it came to two world wars, even with the Eastern half being strangled by communism until the 90s.

Venezuela was actually doing quite well under Huge Chavez, who took the profits from her oil industry and distributed it among the people to improve their living conditions. The country only began failing when the U.S. levied sanctions and began funding opposition forces.

I'll have to get back to you on this, but no, this is not a U.S problem.
I can find the sources but Venezuela banking everything on oil is what caused them to collapse.
I'm paraphrasing, but it's a combination of government incompetence and misreading the actual demand for worldwide oil why the nation is in the situation it's in.

So there are two related causes that have resulted in the steep decline of Venezuela's oil production, despite the the country's top rank in proved reserves.

The first is the removal of expertise required to develop the country's heavy oil. This started with the firing of PDVSA employees in 2003 and continued with pushing international expertise out of the country in 2007.

Second, the Chávez government failed to appreciate the level of capital expenditures required to continue developing the country's oil. This was in no small part due to inexperience among the Chávez loyalists that were now running PDVSA.

When oil prices were high, Chávez funneled billions from the oil industry into the country's social programs. But he failed to reinvest adequately in this capital-intensive industry.

Following the 2007 expropriations, Venezuela's oil production went on a steep decline. In 2018, Venezuela's oil production fell to 1.5 million BPD, a decrease of more than 50% below 2006 levels.

Even as the U.S. announces new sanctions on Venezuela's oil industry, I will point out regarding prior sanctions that Venezuela has remained one of the most important suppliers of oil to the U.S. In 2018, Venezuela ranked behind only Canada and Saudi Arabia in the volume of oil imported by the U.S. Imports from Venezuela have declined over the years, but that's the case with almost every country as U.S. shale production exploded. But sanctions have not prevented Venezuela from profiting from oil sales to the U.S.

Here’s what Venezuela’s deepening crisis means for oil prices

Venezuela’s crude production would suffer even more If the country decides to seize foreign assets from the oil industry, much like it’s already done to car...

www.marketwatch.com

Charting The Decline Of Venezuela's Oil Industry

The problems in Venezuela's oil industry can be traced back to several key decisions that took place over the past 20 years.

www.forbes.com

Why do you assume scientific progress will end if non-whites have more electoral clout in Western democracies? It's not as if white people will not still hold significant positions within these governments. It's also not as if white people who support socialism are not also among those who continue to pioneer groundbreaking technological achievements. You're predicting that the brown hordes will overtake these countries, oust the white people, and turn the West into a third world wasteland.

Unfortunately, I might start rustling some people's feathers if I ever went into into detail on this topic.

However, I'm not wrong by stating a general observation that the biggest scientific discoveries and breakthroughs of the last 500 years have occurred in mainly in Europe and European colonies.
Just take a look at current map of nobel prize winners. The gulf between West and Non-West is huge.

Or how about look at science journals published worldwide? Once again, we see the same major differences play out.

I'm not about taking the chances with this. If all other countries want to prove they have the same scientific output, they're free to demonstrate it in their own lands. But if we take historically European centric societies and replace them with something else, then my hopes of them continuing a culture that values scientific advancements becomes very skeptical, if not outright bleak.

 

[Papa]

Certainly not "liberal," 'leftist" or welcoming to people of that bent.

Speaking of bent, get bent new guy who wants to tell us what to do.

 

[Bstamp]

I'm not about taking the chances with this. If all other countries want to prove they have the same scientific output, they're free to demonstrate it in their own lands. But if we take historically European centric societies and replace them with something else, then my hopes of them continuing a culture that values scientific advancements becomes very skeptical, if not outright bleak.

Europeans didn't invent gunpowder, which bolstered the gains nations made when waging war - China did. Gunpowder was the single most important ingredient to facilitate the eventual expansion of empires that spanned the entire globe after the Middle Age. Primitive firearms were used by not just Chinese, but Arabs and Africans before Europeans adopted the technology and refined it for the creation of more advanced models.

 

[JordanN]

Europeans didn't invent gunpowder, which bolstered the gains nations made when waging war - China did. Gunpowder was the single most important ingredient to facilitate the eventual expansion of empires that spanned the entire globe after the Middle Age. Primitive use of firearms were used by not just Chinese, but Arabs and Africans before Europeans adopted the technology and refined it for the creation of more advanced models.

You're selling Europe short.

They had gunpowder, but they also had ships that could sail the world, they also had universities, they were the first to start the industrial revolution, they had military academies.
Basically, everything you would expect from a society whose culture depended on constantly being on the cutting edge.

And even when both sides had guns, socialists have shown they still perform really badly at war.

 

[autoduelist]

I just found this thread. I can't decide whether to participate, popcorn.gif, or Abe Simpson nope the fuck out.

Hmmm... let me read further....

Let's say you're right, for the sake of argument. Is this necessarily a bad thing? Obviously, white people aren't going anywhere, so it's not as there's any validity to this "white genocide" malarkey. So, let's say that the Western countries are becoming more diverse, their once homogeneously white populations undergoing a browning effect thanks to an influx of immigrants from non-white nations. When you look at the voting patterns of these immigrants, how they support politicians who actually wish to address the existential threat of climate change, is it at all that worrisome that white people are losing power in their countries? I look at the world and what the West has done to it, acknowledging the good and the bad, the positive technological advances that have emerged from Western thinkers and the adverse impact of unfettered capitalism. I believe we are now at a point where less Western (read: Anglo) influence on the course of history is a welcome development. It bodes well for this planet and its inhabitants.