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[ph33rknot]

I found out some people don't have an inner monologue. It was described to me, by someone without an inner monologue, as not always thinking. I can't imagine it. Baffling.

By any chance are you a woman?

 

[Husky]

By any chance are you a woman?

no
why

 

[ph33rknot]

no
why

Nevermind replyed to wrong tread

 

[Husky]

Nevermind replyed to wrong tread

just out of curiosity
was it meant for me in another thread, or a different fellow

 

[JSoup]

Did you know that pressing the crosswalk button doesn't change the traffic lights or cut down the wait time? No, mashing it repeatedly like a caveman won't work either.

The crosswalk button is there for those that aren't smart enough to cross the street themselves. It's kind of sad that grown 20 to 50 year old adults don't know how to cross the street without a lit up stick figure telling them to.

Or the fact 20 to 50 year old adults think mashing the button changes the light or cuts the wait time down despite them never actually experiencing either. For years.

To be honest, when I'm attempting to cross the street, I'm generally more worried about the apes operating the explosion powered slabs of metal not understanding what 'please stop your fucking car' means.

 

[ph33rknot]

just out of curiosity
was it meant for me in another thread, or a different fellow

Actually someone on a different site I was
On a boxing forum and I got mixed up lol

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

That's a lie. There are plenty of intersections that if a car doesn't trip the sensor then the only way the light will change is a pedestrian pushing the button.

I have also used a pedestrian button that was given too much authority. As a teenager I was waiting for some friends on the corner of a main street and a smaller street when I pushed the button to cross in the direction the main street was going and the red hand switched to a walk logo. I just stayed where I was and when the countdown appeared with the red hand I pressed it again and walk logo came back. I did this for about 10 minutes, all the while cross traffic continued building up until I stopped pressing and allowed the light to change.

SOME lights do nothing when the button is pressed, but tons are functional.

I'm fairly certain this doesn't exist in America, but if it does it's in a very niche area, as the original purpose of the crosswalk for years has never been to do that, it's always been to help dumb people cross the street. 99% of crosswalks don't do anything when you press the button other than tell you when to walk outside the talking ones in some cities which were made because people ended up being dumber than originally thought.

 

[Mihos]

I'm fairly certain this doesn't exist in America, but if it does it's in a very niche area, as the original purpose of the crosswalk for years has never been to do that, it's always been to help dumb people cross the street. 99% of crosswalks don't do anything when you press the button other than tell you when to walk outside the talking ones in some cities which were made because people ended up being dumber than originally thought.

Nah, I have worked with these things a long time ago. Fully actuated, which is by far the most common in the suburbs, you have to hit the button or it will never go to 'walk'. Usually there is less pedestrian traffic, so people don't interact with these as much which gives the illusion that they are rare, when they are the most common.

For semi-actuated or timed, like you find on most downtown streets, it depends on the time of day. During rush hour, they sometimes don't do anything, but on off hours may be required. Most of the time, they do activate and put you in the cue, but since these types have to go all way through their cycle anyway, it feels like they don't do anything.

Here are the specs:
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop08024/chapter5.htm#5.2

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

Nah, I have worked with these things a long time ago. Fully actuated, which is by far the most common in the suburbs, you have to hit the button or it will never go to 'walk'. Usually there is less pedestrian traffic, so people don't interact with these as much which gives the illusion that they are rare, when they are the most common.

For semi-actuated or timed, like you find on most downtown streets, it depends on the time of day. During rush hour, they sometimes don't do anything, but on off hours may be required. Most of the time, they do activate and put you in the cue, but since these types have to go all way through their cycle anyway, it feels like they don't do anything.

Here are the specs:
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/fhwahop08024/chapter5.htm#5.2

I looked them up, these traffic light changing crosswalk buttons are very rare and seem to mostly be in towns outside urban areas. Sure some newer versions have come out but most of the crosswalk buttons active across the country don't change or speed up the lights.

This is especially true for decades ago where people still did the same thing, aggressively mashing the crosswalk button even before these new versions came out, back in the payphone days.

 

[Mihos]

I looked them up, these traffic light changing crosswalk buttons are very rare and seem to mostly be in towns outside urban areas. Sure some newer versions have come out but most of the crosswalk buttons active across the country don't change or speed up the lights.

This is especially true for decades ago where people still did the same thing, aggressively mashing the crosswalk button even before these new versions came out, back in the payphone days.

It puts the crosswalk in the cue, it doesn't speed anything up.... but if you don't push it, most systems will just skip the crosswalk portion of the cue, and in semi actuated, the main road stays green until either the side road detector or the pedestrian detector is triggered. it was decades ago that I worked on the control boards for these, so I am not sure about the newer ones.

Pushing the button like a video game does nothing, it only registers you once then clears after the next cycle.

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

It puts the crosswalk in the cue, it doesn't speed anything up.... but if you don't push it, most systems will just skip the crosswalk portion of the cue, and in semi actuated, the main road stays green until either the side road detector or the pedestrian detector is triggered. it was decades ago that I worked on the control boards for these, so I am not sure about the newer ones.

Pushing the button like a video game does nothing, it only registers you once then clears after the next cycle.

But you're proving my point, the only purpose of the button is to help people see the Walk image when it''s in the cue because they don't know how to cross the street without it. Nearly everyone who uses the button thinks it will speed up the wait times or it will change the traffic from green to red.

 

[TDiddyLive]

But you're proving my point, the only purpose of the button is to help people see the Walk image when it''s in the cue because they don't know how to cross the street without it. Nearly everyone who uses the button thinks it will speed up the wait times or it will change the traffic from green to red.

You keep doubling and tripling down on your bad info. Mihos straight up explained some intersections stay red until the button is pushed. Their is tons of evidence that the buttons actually function, unlike what you originally said.

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

You keep doubling and tripling down on your bad info. Mihos straight up explained some intersections stay red until the button is pushed. Their is tons of evidence that the buttons actually function, unlike what you originally said.

No, there are tons of evidence that it's uncommon and the vast majority of crosswalk buttons DON'T do that. Especially since most crosswalk buttons are decades old. Just because you have a few newer exceptions doesn't mean that's the norm. Almost every person you see mashing the button is using it on one that doesn't do anything.

Something like lights only being green unless the button is pressed can't even apply to intersections because you have two other roads crossing the intersection waiting to drive. You're getting intersections confused with some urban one-way streets, those would have continuous traffic until the button is pressed but you rarely see those.

His post also confirms that most of the time it just puts walk on cue, and that's useless if you know how to cross the street.

Are you a button smasher?

 

[Rawker]

Left hand turn lane, in Ontario Canada (not sure about else where) if you wait 2 car lengths back in a left hand turn lane there is a sensor cut into the ground to activate the advanced turn signal. Now you can get an advanced turn signal even when your the only car turning.

 

[Reon]

No, there are tons of evidence that it's uncommon and the vast majority of crosswalk buttons DON'T do that. Especially since most crosswalk buttons are decades old. Just because you have a few newer exceptions doesn't mean that's the norm. Almost every person you see mashing the button is using it on one that doesn't do anything.

Something like lights only being green unless the button is pressed can't even apply to intersections because you have two other roads crossing the intersection waiting to drive. You're getting intersections confused with some urban one-way streets, those would have continuous traffic until the button is pressed but you rarely see those.

His post also confirms that most of the time it just puts walk on cue, and that's useless if you know how to cross the street.

Are you a button smasher?

Every location I've lived at has had many crosswalks that will not change unless you press the button or a car drives up and trips the sensor. It is commonly unsafe for me to cross the street unless I press the button which will tell the vehicles in the oncoming lanes to stop. There are many streets around me that aren't even intersections or crossroads but have a crosswalk integrated to allow pedestrians from one side of the street to the other. These roads are often very, very heavily trafficked and since there's no crossroad, the crosswalk doesn't automatically queue up. You have to press the button to notify it that you're there and it will safely cross you shortly.

I don't know what country you're from but clearly crosswalks are different from place to place. Get your head out of your ass.

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

I don't know what country you're from but clearly crosswalks are different from place to place. Get your head out of your ass.

This is the problem, your head is the one up your ass.

My point has never been proven wrong all you guys have done was add on to what I said, that it's not common. The vast majority of crosswalks buttons don't do anything, and one person literally said in his case it only added walk to the cue, not the nonsense you brought up.

The actual resistance here is that you are trying to get me to believe that nearly all or a significant amount of crosswalk systems work the same way while also saying the opposite. The actual fact is that most crosswalks, especially in the US, don't do that, and many crosswalks systems have been in the same place for decades. You might have areas that changed things around but that's not the norm, and you're trying to say that it is the norm which doesn't make sense.

When you see someone smashing a button on a Crosswalk panel it does nothing in most cases other than light up the damn sign and I haven't seen one thing in here that actually proves that statement false, all I see are people acting like I'm saying newer panels don't exist or in your case that I said it's never different place to place. Notice how you brought that up, not me.

Try being honest. The argument I keep seeing is HA there is a place that does things different, cool never said there wasn't, but most crosswalks don't have those features, most crosswalks don't have a talking robot voice telling you to wait or walk, only some areas have those, this isn't hard to comprehend.

 

[Scopa]

This is one of the weirder internet disagreements I have ever read.