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How do you achieve deep sleep?

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There's no denying that sleeping deeply is awesome.

You wake up and your body feels like brand new, just refreshed. I definitely can feel when I've achieved it, but it only happens a few times per year for me.

I've noticed it happened after drinking, but 99% of the time I can't get the volume right, or how to trigger it every night. It sometimes happen when I have a good sex session with the GF, or after a nice barbecue + alcohol with the family. It seems to be released for me when I achieve some kind of deep pleasure in my mind that allows my unconscious body to let go of any tension and just relax. I notice it when it happens because my bones in my back crack very easily when I first move in the morning and that even produces an orgasmic release that allows me to start the day on the right foot.

I've tried different combos... For science. Weed, or even jacking off sometimes work, but I'm looking to train my body to get to that state naturally. Is that even possible?
 
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I smoke for a guaranteed full night's sleep. However, you don't dream when you sleep which can't be good for you. But I do feel well rested =]
 
I haven't slept deeply and completely throughout the entire night since I was a kid. I remember when I was younger whenever I shut my eyes it was like I blinked and it was morning.

It all changed once I was out of the rangers. Ever since then I'd never been able to sleep soundly and deeply. I wake up easily, and wake up multiple times a night. I dont really get to sleep till about 5am till 8am. It's been 20 years since I slept the entire night.
 
Whenever I do breathing exercises and meditation to unwind for 15-20 minutes before going to bed, I always end up having very plentiful and vibrant dreams that night. I don't know if that counts as deep sleep. It's not always easy to meditate and fight off the urge to sleep if you are tired but it's worth it for the fancy dreams alone.
 
I have one of those "sleep sounds" apps running all night on my pc speakers. I've created a mix of light rain, light traffic, and light wind. Works beautifully

I also am medicated for panic disorder so I'm sure that helps too
 
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I have an air purifier going all night, and I usually listen to either ocean waves or "Weightless" by Marconi Union. Sometimes I listen to both simultaneously:


 
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Don't drink to help yourself sleep. It'll make it easier to pass out but your sleep won't be as restful and once it clears your system, you'll be wide awake because your body is still compensating for the depressant after it's gone.

I try to get a solid workout in and sometimes 10mg melatonin an hour before bed. Also, I am terrible at procrastinating and the more shit on my mind the worse off I am, so handling things in a timely manner helps me relax
 
At home I sleep my 5 hours like a baby and always wake up feeling like a champ.

Travel though, is tough. Jetlag just get worse and worse the older you get. And I have to travel so more than I like.
Ambien 9mg to the rescue. Wait until dinner is served on the flight across the pacific, put on a simpson episode on the tv and pop an ambien.
You will be asleep before the episode ends and you wake up when the plane shakes during landing, feeling like a king and there is no jetlag. Your brain and timezone is reset!

Ambien 9mg for the win!
 
you get the deepest sleep when you play the most dangerous game of shutting off the alarm after it goes off bargaining with yourself that you're definitely getting up, only to wake up an hour late to work.
 
Go running or do some extreme physical activity before going to bed. If you go to bed with your body exhausted, there's a bigger chance to achieve deep sleep.
 
Cult of FartNoise said:
I have one of those "sleep sounds" apps running all night on my pc speakers. I've created a mix of light rain, light traffic, and light wind. Works beautifully
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This.

I use youtube videos like "gentle rain falling in the park at night" "swaying trees in the wind" or "leaves rustling in autumn" Those type of sounds help a lot for some reason.
 
HoodWinked said:
you get the deepest sleep when you play the most dangerous game of shutting off the alarm after it goes off bargaining with yourself that you're definitely getting up, only to wake up an hour late to work.
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That's true. It's very noticeable how that post-alarm session feels to be the one that recharged you fully. For me at least I believe it has to do with awareness of time. I'm lucky enough for having an accurate internal clock that allows me to wake up without an alarm, but at the same time, it's probably the "clock" the culprit for not allowing my body to fully shut down. Throughout the day I tend to notice how I'm constantly anxious about what time is it. I'm starting to meditate to control this.

Elektro Demon said:
Go running or do some extreme physical activity before going to bed. If you go to bed with your body exhausted, there's a bigger chance to achieve deep sleep.
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I agree. The more tired you are before going to bed, the better.
 
Wish I knew too, OP.

My day job is so high strung that I usually am still thinking about it in bed and can't stop my brain activity.

I probably should learn how to wind it down doing quiet relaxing things an hour before bed, but unfortunately I like my night time crime shows.
 
Revoh said:
There's no denying that sleeping deeply is awesome.

You wake up and your body feels like brand new, just refreshed. I definitely can feel when I've achieved it, but it only happens a few times per year for me.

I've noticed it happened after drinking, but 99% of the time I can't get the volume right, or how to trigger it every night. It sometimes happen when I have a good sex session with the GF, or after a nice barbecue + alcohol with the family. It seems to be released for me when I achieve some kind of deep pleasure in my mind that allows my unconscious body to let go of any tension and just relax. I notice it when it happens because my bones in my back crack very easily when I first move in the morning and that even produces an orgasmic release that allows me to start the day on the right foot.

I've tried different combos... For science. Weed, or even jacking off sometimes work, but I'm looking to train my body to get to that state naturally. Is that even possible?
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Have a child. You'll be exhausted night and day.
 
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Man, I wish I knew... Until a few years ago, sleeping deeply was one of my biggest strenghts. It has gone to shit now.
 
According to the client I'm writing copy for right now, self-hypnosis.

I feel more confident in recommending a good leg workout, though.
 
When I was a child I could sleep till my parents would yell at me to stay in bed, because it was evening already.

Since I left the army, I haven't slept more then 5-7 hours a day, and wake up multiple times at night. Even this week, I have some days of but still I wake up at 7am... And went to bed at 2am:messenger_crying:.
 
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I never had a problem sleeping, till that surgery I am speaking so much in here. After that, I don't know, simply my brain don't want to go to sleep. So I am using Zolpidem...but even then if I found some thread in here entertaining, I can be up till the sunrise no problem. Like in the old times.
 
FYI smokers, you aren't getting good sleep when you smoke before bed, you're just getting knocked out thanks to being high. It's the same thing as sleeping pills.

Take it from someone that has really bad trouble sleeping without smoking and won't take pills. Unfortunately, the best answer is exercise. Or having a baby apparently.
 
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I also run a sleep sounds app every night, rain sounds, plus I have a fan on low year round. Sweet sweet white noise.

Thaedolus said:
Don't drink to help yourself sleep. It'll make it easier to pass out but your sleep won't be as restful and once it clears your system, you'll be wide awake because your body is still compensating for the depressant after it's gone.
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Yeah, when I was drinking every night, I'd be OUT as soon as my head hit the pillow, but come 3-4 AM I'd be tossing and turning and only getting fitful sleep until it was time to get up for work.
 
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D-Dude said:
When I was a child I could sleep till my parents would yell at me to stay in bed, because it was evening already.

Since I left the army, I haven't slept more then 5-7 hours a day, and wake up multiple times at night. Even this week, I have some days of but still I wake up at 7am... And went to bed at 2am:messenger_crying:.
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5-7 hours would be considerably a good night for me!
 
Mirtazapine. When I'm on my meds I can easily sleep 8-10 hours a night and wake up feeling great.

Recently though I've been getting 2-3 hours... something is wrong in my head right now.
 
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Mirtazapine.
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This is one of the meds I'm on. Low dose, 15mg, but definitely knocks me out.

hasn't done anything for my anxiety and panic though. Been on it a year this week. Have an appointment next week hopefully can get a new plan because these meds aren't stopping the super random panic attacks
 
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I'm surprised by the weed responses.

I smoke just about every night, and if anything I probably sleep a bit more when I don't.

Whenever I take a 'fasting' from weed for about a month, my sleep is then very good and the dreams are awesome.
 
nowadays i have no problem getting to sleep. Friday night i passed out at 9pm.

IMO you need to do some exercise during the day. days when i don't do anything are the days when i have more trouble falling asleep.
 
Sleeping in a comple darkness, a cool and freshly ventilated room (with an open window).
In complete and utter silence (or natural forest whitenoise sounds).
No caffeine.
Light exposure only via sunlight.
Sleeping patterns 100% aligned with circadian rhythm.

Basically go hiking for two weeks deep in the forests in nature, far from cars, noise and light pollution.
 
Magnesium (citrate) supplements. It was an accidental discovery that they made me sleep 8-10 hours with vivid dreams. I was pissed when the effect stopped happening after about a month of use. Now I wake up after 5-6 hours and drift back to sleep until hour 7-8.
 
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