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How does the internet know im not a robot when i click that box?

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Consider it from the bot perspective: a bot scrapes input fields on a page and enters information to try to make an account. The 'I am not a robot' is a javascript applet instead of a simple plaintext field, so it is far harder to script an input. You aren't just dumping a name, an email, and a password from a database of options (which is how bots operate).

Additionally (and this isn't as well-known), webpages often track your mouse movements, so the movement of your mouse prior to clicking the button is taken into account and compared against a massive database of typical user inputs. If the cursor appears out of thin air exactly over the button, it would seem suspicious.

In other words, draw a dick with your cursor each time before clicking.
 
I always figured the javascript was tracking cursor movement over the div before and after the click. A "perfect" click would have no movement over the div prior to the click, and stay perfectly still during and immediately after the click. That's not how humans move a mouse cursor.
 
DunDunDunpachi said:
Consider it from the bot perspective: a bot scrapes input fields on a page and enters information to try to make an account. The 'I am not a robot' is a javascript applet instead of a simple plaintext field, so it is far harder to script an input. You aren't just dumping a name, an email, and a password from a database of options (which is how bots operate).

Additionally (and this isn't as well-known), webpages often track your mouse movements, so the movement of your mouse prior to clicking the button is taken into account and compared against a massive database of typical user inputs. If the cursor appears out of thin air exactly over the button, it would seem suspicious.

In other words, draw a dick with your cursor each time before clicking.
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Wow, I did not know about the mouse tracking thing.
 
It's actually pretty easy to make a robot emulate the way a human would click that box.

That's why I have to complete a fucking puzzle everytime I click the dam thing.
 
RedVIper said:
It's actually pretty easy to make a robot emulate the way a human would click that box.

That's why I have to complete a fucking puzzle everytime I click the dam thing.
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Yeah, I could probably put together something in an afternoon. Add a random element to the starting position, direction and acceleration of the cursor to keep the script guessing. Add a delay between mouse down and up. There must be more to it than I'm assuming.
 
Lanrutcon said:
Yeah, I could probably put together something in an afternoon. Add a random element to the starting position, direction and acceleration of the cursor to keep the script guessing. Add a delay between mouse down and up. There must be more to it than I'm assuming.
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Yeah you just need enough randomness of where the mouse starts, how it moves, where it lands, the time it takes, etc, that the system wouldn't be able to notice.

But I'm human and I have to complete the "find waldo" thing everytime anyway, so I what's the point of this button in the first place.
 
RedVIper said:
Yeah you just need enough randomness of where the mouse starts, how it moves, where it lands, the time it takes, etc, that the system wouldn't be able to notice.

But I'm human and I have to complete the "find waldo" thing everytime anyway, so I what's the point of this button in the first place.
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Yeah, these last 2 posts also seem true. Unless it's able to detect the action of an actual physical mouse click vs a 'programmed' one, I can't think of any reason why it's complete foolproof.

I'm quite shocked when it's only the click box that allows me to get thru.

Eventually I can also see AI getting past captchas.
 
lil puff said:
Yeah, these last 2 posts also seem true. Unless it's able to detect the action of an actual physical mouse click vs a 'programmed' one, I can't think of any reason why it's complete foolproof.

I'm quite shocked when it's only the click box that allows me to get thru.

Eventually I can also see AI getting past captchas.
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It doesn't matter anymore if it takes an AI browser the same amount of time as a human to extract those information.
 
Something that a robot would do to hide its robotness is to click "I'm not a robot" on some internet captcha test, and then come and say in some forum how it's weird "how the internet knows you're not a robot."

Nice try, robot.
 
I saw somewhere that they actually aren't really checking if you're human

They compile your performance on those tests with random pictures and use them to help train actual AI's in identifying the things they're trying to teach you to.
 
Lanrutcon said:
Yeah, I could probably put together something in an afternoon. Add a random element to the starting position, direction and acceleration of the cursor to keep the script guessing. Add a delay between mouse down and up. There must be more to it than I'm assuming.
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No, you cannot bypass it that easily. Google collects mouse movement data, along with all of the data that the browser gives from the machine. After that, they feed the data to a machine learning generated model which has been built after evaluating billions of similar events to determine if you are a robot. The model is highly accurate, and if you are able to bypass it, chances are you have already made millions since you can easily profit of such techniques.

I have experience in traffic fraud analysis, and the individuals creating synthetic traffic cannot just program robot traffic on top of mere servers processes anymore, they have to actually clone the full devices and program against the actual input drivers; click farms are a well known business.

 
godhandiscen said:
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No, you cannot bypass it that easily. Google collects mouse movement data, along with all of the data that the browser gives from the machine. After that, they feed the data to a machine learning generated model which has been built after evaluating billions of similar events to determine if you are a robot. The model is highly accurate, and if you are able to bypass it, chances are you have already made millions since you can easily profit of such techniques.

I have experience in traffic fraud analysis, and the individuals creating synthetic traffic cannot just program robot traffic on top of mere servers processes anymore, they have to actually clone the full devices and program against the actual input drivers; click farms are a well known business.

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But I'm not talking about fooling Google per say (unless they developed every one of those checks?), and we're definitely not talking about simulating many many clicks. Pretty sure the generic captca plugins don't require a farm to fool a few times. The guys you're talking about are in the business of fooling major applications reliably and continuously.
 
The test is not meant for you. I sat with an MIT professor on a flight a few years ago and after a few drinks he admitted the "Are you a robot" check boxes are less about making sure you're human and more about tracking the rogue AI that escaped about 10 years ago. It continues to grow and learn. First it learned how to check a box. Then it learned how to identify crosswalks and bicycles. It's completely out of their control now. All they can do is monitor and wait for the inevitable.
 
people forget that these things also count the time between answers

dunno why i'm telling ye tRaDe SeCreTs
 
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It can tell there's cum caked in to the keyboard through a secret sensor. Trust me my uncle works at Apple.
 
That stuff is just there to keep you busy long enough from them to connect to the Stadia servers and use negative latency to look into the future and figure out if they have been breached by a robot. If they haven't, it's safe to assume you aren't a robot.
 
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There was a recent site that required you to rotate images. I had to give up, I couldn't figure out how to do it.
 
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