EverydayBeast
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What are some good examples of developers in their prime?
Game developers in their prime
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greencoder
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Nintendo in 2017. SM Odyssey, Zelda: BOTW and Splatoon 2.
Capcom now (returned to their prime).
Capcom now (returned to their prime).
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nickname_esco
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Rare. Goldeneye. Perfect Dark. Banjo Kazooie
Grand Theft Scratchy
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Uncharted 2: Among Thieves by Naughty Dog. Excellent sequel.
Also, Rockstar during the PS2 era with pretty much everything from GTA III to Bully and even some of Manhunt 2 despite the censored violence.
Also, Rockstar during the PS2 era with pretty much everything from GTA III to Bully and even some of Manhunt 2 despite the censored violence.
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diffusionx
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Looking Glass Studios in the late 90s. Blizzard from 1995-2004. Dreamcast Sega. Rare from about 1994-2000. Black Isle late 90s. Id Software 1993-1999.
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TacosNSalsa
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SNES era Square
Coulomb_Barrier
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Naughty Dog last 6 years. Creative Assembly from Rome: TW to Warhammer: TW.
SEGA from Sega Rally to VF5. Capcom late 90s mid 00s. Bullfrog until EA killed them.
Namco from Tekken 1 up until Tekken 3 and everything in between. Amazing.
EPIC noughties to mid noughties.
SEGA from Sega Rally to VF5. Capcom late 90s mid 00s. Bullfrog until EA killed them.
Namco from Tekken 1 up until Tekken 3 and everything in between. Amazing.
EPIC noughties to mid noughties.
-Arcadia-
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Would add:
Bungie might have only done one game series, but they absolutely did an amazing, world-dominating job from Halo 1 to Halo Reach. Some would argue that the prime is more Halo 1 and 2 (maybe 3), but I loved the whole thing.
Dreamcast Sega definitely deserves a mention. Some of the most impressed I’ve ever been with a developer, and seemingly unlimited creativity and talent.
Bungie might have only done one game series, but they absolutely did an amazing, world-dominating job from Halo 1 to Halo Reach. Some would argue that the prime is more Halo 1 and 2 (maybe 3), but I loved the whole thing.
Dreamcast Sega definitely deserves a mention. Some of the most impressed I’ve ever been with a developer, and seemingly unlimited creativity and talent.
Ravi_elite
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volition - original red faction on PC
Danjin44
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I would have agree with Awakening and Fates but not much with Three Houses. I put more than 300 hours in to the game and only so called "romance" you get from the game is after the final battle when reach S in support. But if you think just interacting with characters makes it "waifu/husbando" simulator then you might as well call Xenoblade Chronicles 2 or any game with good looking female/male characters "waifu/husbando" simulator as well.
-Arcadia-
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My friend who’s playing it, only mentions hosting tea parties, and trying to get characters to like him. Still sounds like a complete bastardization of Fire Emblem to me.
I even watched it for quite a while on YouTube, and got the same impression. The series is almost fundamentally unrecognizable at this point.
That’s the problem, not having good looking characters, which is the case for every game ever. Poor strawman.
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Damn, i was just about to buy the game, but now I'm turned off completely.
Thanks alot, BAKA.
HaveButOneLife
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90's Square is peak Square. Still one of the best publishers around though.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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They made games people actually buy.
-Arcadia-
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You should watch or skip through a playthrough and see what you think.
Personally, I just want more than anything, for them to get back to making simple, awesome strategy games with great stories and quasi-mature themes and characters, without the weaboo bait.
Some may still find enjoyment in the series as it is. There’s still a solid strategy game somewhere in all of that.
Should have let it die with honor (and prior to the underwhelming DS installments, it seemed to be selling fine, so I’m not even sure that’s the case), versus pandering to the literal lowest extent they could.
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Danjin44
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You can host tea parties with characters you can't romance and you can avoid them completely, I myself big fan of FE series and as someone who put crazy hours in Three House, that game is still very much FE game, but If you didn't like what you saw the go with your gut.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Honor? It is a business. I'm glad the series still exists. FE was never deep to begin with (the new one is literally Genealogy with better characters but a worse story). People that usually hate on the new FE because "grrr I hate waifus/husbandos" old fans aka people that never bought said games in the first place come out and say how shit the games are now are hilarious. Not saying you do specifically as I'm sure you bought and played the old games right? Anyway I love the salt and seething FE gets! For all it's current flaws it is still a series I somewhat enjoy. Blog over!
-Arcadia-
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I feel like the fact that we’re debating tea parties and which characters you can romance, in Fire Emblem, is a sign that something is very, very amiss.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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Romance is entirely optional. Building rapport is beneficial. cries in otome
-Arcadia-
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Well, yeah. You’re the target audience.
Wouldn’t even be surprised to see Ship Girls in the next one. Or maybe that’s how they’ll bring Advance Wars back.
I bought, played, and loved Fire Emblem, spreading the word to just about every gamer I knew. This crap isn’t it.
Fire Emblem derail is a go.
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Danjin44
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Again not much "romance" What you really get for most part is little card end of the game that it says they end up together, thats really it as far as the "romance" goes. Original Valkyria Chronicles had more "romance" than Three Houses.
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Fire Emblem 3DS may be the best one, from what I hear.
I understand if the game became more accessible with new anime injections into it, but I've seen enough to know it's still a solid strategy game.
It's definitely different from previous FE games, but I welcome new changes especially since the new game came out on the Switch which has a bigger worldwide audience now.
I'm still interested to get it one day, and I'm looking forward to the tea parties and character interactions as I prefer to make friends virtually rather than physically.
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SLoWMoTIoN
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I like strategy games.Well, yeah. You’re the target audience.
No that is dead as dead gets.
But the new FE (Awakening and onwards) is essentially Genealogy (1996) with better gameplay. I just think you are too hung up on the romance angle. When the majority of JRPG to date has worked it heavily into their stories it does seem odd to criticize IS for doing the same. A legit criticism would be how easy their games are or how the newest one looks like a ps2 game. Or the story where 90% of the cast is somehow very stupid for plot reasons. (this goes back 20 years)
Most Japanese media incorporates love (gross) or romance into their stories.
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Danjin44
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I recently finished Ace Attorney trials and tribulations and in last case Iris confess her love to Wright I guess that makes the game "waifus simulator" as well!
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That’s still an end result you’re working towards throughout the game. You woo them, etc. It’s very much bait for fans of those sort of things, and still opposed to everything Fire Emblem started off as.
I wouldn’t even be opposed to romance systems, or a really good love story. Take a look at many other games that have done the same, in a mature fashion. The problem is that these developers view everything through a lens of how much they can pander to the lowest common denominator.
It’s a lot more than romance. The entire tone of this new era of Fire Emblem games is completely off-putting.
They made a desperate play for sales by going lower/more generic than they ever have (beach party swimwear DLC, breast physics, relationships, anime-style story, characters, designs, and so on). It paid off massively, and the series has been transformed ever since.
Seriously, go back and play Fire Emblem GBA, or watch it, and see how different, and refreshingly free of this bullshit it is.
Belmonte
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Snes-PSX Squaresoft was a powerhouse. They released classic after classic, in many different series.
Lots of Final Fantasy, many Front Missions, Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, Bushido Blade 1 and 2, Vagrant Story, many SaGa games, Parasite Eve 1 and 2, Live a Live, Brave Fencer Musashi, Einhander, Seiken Densetsu 2 and 3 and Super Mario RPG.
Always blows my mind when I remember it.
Lots of Final Fantasy, many Front Missions, Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, Bushido Blade 1 and 2, Vagrant Story, many SaGa games, Parasite Eve 1 and 2, Live a Live, Brave Fencer Musashi, Einhander, Seiken Densetsu 2 and 3 and Super Mario RPG.
Always blows my mind when I remember it.
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I recently finished Ace Attorney trials and tribulations and in last case Iris confess her love to Wright I guess that makes the game "waifus simulator" as well!
No, but it does make you a braindead console warrior, that can’t even stay within the logical lines of the convo, or not resort to strawmen, because a developer tangentially related to ‘Muh Nintendo’ is under fire.
Danjin44
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Not really? Romance gives you nothing! what you are working towards is Classes and character development, you can romance none of them and still get character development from the cast.
Come one, we are having discussion, why is always comes down people calling each other "fanboy" if we are disagree. You say Three Houses is all about "romance" and "waifus "and as someone who actually play the game and put over 300hours in to it, I say its really not. So what "console warrior" has anything to with this exactly?
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So your argument is that it’s not inappropriate for Fire Emblem in one way, but is inappropriate for Fire Emblem in another way?
FE at most, was about a few support convo sentences in battle. Never lowest common denominator anime, waifu, and Japanese game tropes dominating half or more of the game.
I find all of the above inappropriate for the series.
Don’t act like one, and set up ridiculous strawmen then.
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brap
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more popular = worse
StreetsofBeige
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- Sega mids 80s to mid 90s and during early 2000s sports days
- Bluesky software (Genesis days)
- Looking Glass (90s)
- Konami (SNES)
- Call of Duty devs (Call of Duty 4 to Black Ops 2)
- EA Sports (2009-2013)
- Bethesda (Oblivion to Skyrim)
- Bioware (Baldur's Game to Mass Effect 2)
- MS (360)
- Sony (PS2)
- Nintendo (SNES)
- Bluesky software (Genesis days)
- Looking Glass (90s)
- Konami (SNES)
- Call of Duty devs (Call of Duty 4 to Black Ops 2)
- EA Sports (2009-2013)
- Bethesda (Oblivion to Skyrim)
- Bioware (Baldur's Game to Mass Effect 2)
- MS (360)
- Sony (PS2)
- Nintendo (SNES)
Bakkus
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This, what a tragedy. You also forgot all the fun WarioWare games they made during that time.
HaveButOneLife
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Rare in the 90's, some of the most memorable games I've every played and will ever play.
DK64 is still a great game, fight me.
DK64 is still a great game, fight me.
Grand Theft Scratchy
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Not a lot of people talk about the original Brave Fencer Musashi compared to other Square games but it was a great game for sure. I feel like playing it now.
JimmyJones
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Scopa
The Tribe Has Spoken
I’m a longtime FE fan, I adored Three Houses and I maybe did a total of two “tea parties”. It’s entirely optional.
I think that’s Romero during his Ion Storm (ie Daikatana) days. Not exactly his prime, lol.
Speaking of Ion Storm, now Warren Spector was definitely in his prime back then making OG Deus Ex.
(He’s the one on the right)