saintjules
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So now it's just comes down to the launch lineup and pricing.
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gundamkyoukai
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No one said the consoles were going to be RDNA 2 before he did .
Yes we knew about RDNA 2 but not that it was for consoles.
Either way he guess were on point for XSX.
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Dabaus
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Whatd he say PS5 spec were?
It was off when it comes to final spec but it was the same chip, only full 56cu and not 60cu with 4 disabled as it was assumed. It also had the right memory config.
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hemo memo
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I wouldn't be so sure. What Microsoft showed so far is impressive with the quick resume and how are they handling compatibility. Next for Microsoft to show is games which is what matters and they have invested heavily in studios and by the point Sony start showing stuff the message will be lost.
Microsoft is hyping this the slow and right way.
No, everything about the Github leak has been 100% correct thus far. We know the full chip has 56CU just like the leak said, it has a 320-bit memory bus like the leak said. Just because Microsoft chose to bin the final chip for shader count rather than frequency doesn't make the leak incorrect.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Guess I might have to give an apology to Tommy Fischer after all, at least regarding XSX. Folks are right, can't deny that he got those exactly right.
I absolutely dislike the fanboy/trolling-like behavior he made after those posts and think that's up for fair criticism, however. But maybe that, and even the absolutely BS controller pic, were them intentionally throwing attention off themselves.
I still doubt they will be absolutely right on everything for both systems, but at least regarding the XSX stuff we know now from MS themselves, he was pretty much accurate.
Now let's see how right they are about PS5; keep in mind Github was also pretty much right about the XSX, too (altho it was more vague). We'll see which way PS5 lands soon enough and maybe we can return to some sanity again xD.
I absolutely dislike the fanboy/trolling-like behavior he made after those posts and think that's up for fair criticism, however. But maybe that, and even the absolutely BS controller pic, were them intentionally throwing attention off themselves.
I still doubt they will be absolutely right on everything for both systems, but at least regarding the XSX stuff we know now from MS themselves, he was pretty much accurate.
Now let's see how right they are about PS5; keep in mind Github was also pretty much right about the XSX, too (altho it was more vague). We'll see which way PS5 lands soon enough and maybe we can return to some sanity again xD.
xool
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Can someone explain this - numbers don't make sense for me ..
DF already said 14Gbps Gddr6 with 6x 2GB and 4x 1GB, but 320*14/8 = 560 - so the full 320bit bus should have 560GB/s total .. so how can they get than from 10GB, unless it's 10x 1GB chips .. and for the 6GB for 336GB/s they need a 192 bit bus @14Gbps .. that's gx 1GB chips .. total would be 16 chips .. but there are only 10, and a mixture of 1 & 2GB chips
???
3liteDragon
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13.3TF with 52 CU's clocked at 2.0 GHz.
StreetsofBeige
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OK guys. Man up.
Which posters out there bashed Tommy Fisher as a no nothing troller? Time to apologize.
The guy's TF, CU count, RDNA and even GPU clockspeed were spot on.
On the plus side for you Sony fans, if he's this accurate for SeX, his PS5 claim of 13.3TF might be true too.
Realistically, shouldn't we be seeing some info from Sony very soo....shortly? Not just because MS has done their full reveal. But because if they wait any longer, this virus which shall not be named might get way out of hand and sort of take the wind out of their reveal. I kinda think that's why MS has released everything now, so any other info will be mainly just games and a possible lower spec machine.
ZywyPL
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This came out of fucking nowhere, and oh boy the news delivers. I'm seriously sceptical about that RAM split tho, I fell like within 3-4 years once the devs start to push the console to its limits we might again run into what happened with 970 "4GB" VRAM... But other than that, what a well designed machine, for real. Your move Sony.
Entroyp
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I'm not saying the github leak has credence, but isn't the XsX 56 CUs with 4 disabled? And clock speeds can be easily manipulated after testing I asume.
Crimson_Fate
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I'll admit that the only thing about that DS5 Pic which did not sit right is that MOW showed it . MOW does not share private information and he would not ask us if we think that something was real or not . So I am not entirely convinced that this was not a "Controlled" leak to get him banned without self banning.
MARTYWOLF
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MS on there own xbox page said next gen rdna. This was after the fact rdna 1 gpus had been out for months
xool
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Pretty sure TF was a burner account designed to protect sources, and, add some light trolling at the end with the pics for a "fell on his sword" moment.
,,possibly one of our other insiders gave the info.
Just my conspiracy theory.
xacto
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Am I seeing things or the Halo demo didn't look very fluid? While graphics were very nice, that didn't seem 60FPS... but maybe I don't have a trained eye for that.
Lol
Githup leaks: XSX full chip has 60CU which is not accurate and 1.65GHz is not accurate too
Tommy Fisher got that on point
LED Guy?
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LMAO!! The tests for GitHub were 60 CUs, 4 turned off so that rounds up 56 CUs.
LMAO the denial
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chilichote
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What I think is good is that MS is actually very transparent. Also in terms of memory. I would have expected them to add up the bandwidths ^^
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That's why we'll have XSX2 by then
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Kazekage1981
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It was windows central that got it right?
Dodkrake
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Microsoft & AMD Supercharge Console Gaming with the Xbox Series X
I am excited to share some of the details that Microsoft announced today on Xbox® Series X, and how it is built upon the partnership with the team at AMD. Together, we have relentlessly pushed the innovation boundaries of gaming devices for the last 15 years. Today, AMD and Microsoft are...community.amd.com
XSX > PS5
"The Xbox Series X is the biggest generational leap of SoC and API design that we've done with Microsoft, and it's an honor for AMD to partner with Microsoft for this endeavor. The Xbox Series X is going to be a beacon of technical innovation leadership for this console generation and will propagate the innovation throughout the DirectX ecosystem this year and into next year. It is a privilege to be Microsoft's trusted partner, and we look forward to a successful launch this holiday season!"
"A beacon" is not the same as "the beacon". Stop reading into things
MARTYWOLF
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LMAO!! The tests for GitHub were 60 CUs, 4 turned off so that rounds up 56 CUs at 1675 MHz.
LMAO the denial
So arden is an AMD gpu?
30yearsofhurt
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I wanna see those controller photos again....
yes there is mixture 1 & 2gb chips, so 10gb with full sped 320bit and last 6 only 6/10 so 192bit
Can someone explain this - numbers don't make sense for me ..
DF already said 14Gbps Gddr6 with 6x 2GB and 4x 1GB, but 320*14/8 = 560 - so the full 320bit bus should have 560GB/s total .. so how can they get than from 10GB, unless it's 10x 1GB chips .. and for the 6GB for 336GB/s they need a 192 bit bus @14Gbps .. that's gx 1GB chips .. total would be 16 chips .. but there are only 10, and a mixture of 1 & 2GB chips
???
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gundamkyoukai
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MS at first had RDNA and the change to next gen RDNA later on .
When did tommy give his info ?
Kazekage1981
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ethomaz
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That is not how it works.
Can someone explain this - numbers don't make sense for me ..
DF already said 14Gbps Gddr6 with 6x 2GB and 4x 1GB, but 320*14/8 = 560 - so the full 320bit bus should have 560GB/s total .. so how can they get than from 10GB, unless it's 10x 1GB chips .. and for the 6GB for 336GB/s they need a 192 bit bus @14Gbps .. that's gx 1GB chips .. total would be 16 chips .. but there are only 10, and a mixture of 1 & 2GB chips
???
You have a 320bits bus so you have 10 slots for memory with 32bits each.
So if you put one chip of memory in each 32bits slot then you have the 560GB/s total with 10 chips.
But what happens when in one of these 32bits spots you put 2 chips of memory? The bandwidth is shared between the two chips so 320GB/s.
So there is a mix of 1 chip per 32bits and 2 chips per 32bits in MS setup.
I just can't find the correct layout in the video.
Of course unless DF is mixing the info.
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MARTYWOLF
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BlacknGold_Blood
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I think that depends on how you look at it. Technically, the dev kit at the time probably had 56 active CU's out of 56. I don't think Github deserves to be trashed over this spec reveal.
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BlacknGold_Blood
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52 CU's at 2 GHZ clock speed, 13.3 TF's
DrDamn
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Same figures here:-
Xbox Series X: A Closer Look at the Technology Powering the Next Generation - Xbox Wire
A few months ago, we revealed Xbox Series X, our fastest, most powerful console ever, designed for a console generation that has you, the player, at its center. When it is released this holiday season, Xbox Series X will set a new bar for performance, speed and compatibility, all while allowing...
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01011001
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he had too many bullshit leaks as well tho... like that Sony bought 2 studios which they didn't buy... or Microsoft buying another studio, which they also did not buy... which we know because these are publicly traded and they can't keep quiet for that long.
and then that really badly faked controller.
if it turns out that he got both specs correctly we all need to bow down before him lol... but also ask why all the fake bullshit
Mr. PlayStation
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Meanwhile the pr team at PlayStation looking at the Xbox Series X info blow out today. Don''t reveal anything PS5 until June, Sony!
xool
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Oh wait yeah it's starting to click
the high speed 10GB is spread across the full 10 chips 320 bits, and the last lower speed 6GB is only using 192bits so 6 "spots" .. so of the 10 "spots" (chips) 6 are 2GB, the remainder (4) are only 1GB
..they put it an odd way imo (there isn't 560+336 total bandwidth)
got it now thnx
DrDamn
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Might be he had much better quality MS sources - or just guessed right.
Nope
LMAO!! The tests for GitHub were 60 CUs, 4 turned off so that rounds up 56 CUs at 1675 MHz.
LMAO the denial
Nope
If you read the Excel spreadsheet you can see they are all for 3584 shaders, absolutely nowhere is it mentioned that the full chip would have 3840 or 4096 shaders, this is a assumption people have made based on previous consoles having binned chips. What we can probably deduce now is that 36 CU is likely the full on-chip CU count for Oberon/Ariel/Gonzalo rather than 40 that many have assumed.
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MARTYWOLF
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MS always used next gen rdna for the power your dreams blog (game awards ) tho im unsure about the previous blog to that one
The clock speed he put forth is impressive the chances of getting it right are fucking nuts but i just think rdna2 and 52 werent that hard of a guess.
xiaoming10086
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Funny to see the next PlayStation tweet packed with angry sony fans, including me.
Edit:A minute after I posted this PlayStation has a new tweet
call me INSIDER now
Edit:A minute after I posted this PlayStation has a new tweet
call me INSIDER now
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01011001
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could be, it's hard to tell. he had so many bogus leaks that it's really hard to make sense of him right now.
his Xbox leak was so spot on, it's such a weird case with him.
Neo Blaster
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So, we have full specs for SX revealed by MS in the middle of an outbreak, now Sony have no excuses to hold their cards back.
ethomaz
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It is an odd way indeed.
But I believe nVidia used something like that in some GPUs where people attacked them for not all 4GB being at te same speed... it was 3.5GB at full speed and 0.5GB at half-speed.
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xacto
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Sony might drop (and maybe should) some info sooner than later; all this "world is in crisis because COVID-19 is rampant" excuse is void now. Look at Microsoft; isn't their console "living" in the same world dominated by this pandemic? And still, there we are, full specs reveal for Series X.
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