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Odd Question / Thoughts on Death

Cutty Flam

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Did a lot of reading and thinking earlier

Do you think that when we grow old and weary and maybe even spent, that living itself, in this world becomes as the same feeling as prolonging a day—going further in the day without taking that much needed nap or lying down to get that much needed rest?

I was thinking about that, and how it must feel for an older individual in their time, so to say. If it's as simple as that; everyday living and trying to stretch out the days to enjoy more time on earth becomes more or less a struggle, and the rightful course has you in the end sooner or later so does it then become enticing to give into that much needed rest or death in that case?

Maybe it's just in the movies and overall film, but the peaceful deaths always seem to be like that. Where the one dying might be able to fight for more time, but it's futile. So I guess I only yearn to know how that works or feels for some reason

I have many perspectives regarding death, and the possibilities are open in my mind. But ultimately I observe it to be necessary, and gives purpose to life and time spent on a finite location, a finite world where we can only yet fathom and know for certain, a finite reality
 
I spend most of my time thinking about animals and shit, I've posted my pets on here

I'm on da fucking right here

Whatever you like, you do you

Just realize it way sooner than later

Fuckin CEO types they realize that shit last minute I imagine lmao

Lmao
 
Two things I know about death. It's inevitable and scary

I always think what happens after death, like what will I be doing. Will I be aware that I am trapped in a grave until judgment day or am I going to be fully asleep till judgment day
 
I kinda think there's reincarnation. If you were good in life, you'll be born again human.
If you were bad, you'll be born as a snail, turtle or a bird.
 
Not gonna lie. I have no idea what you were trying to say in your first two paragraphs, but I guess it has something to do with comming at peace with dieing at some point.

I think a big part of it is just being trapped in a frail and decaying body. And ultimately the trade off with death and nothingness doesn't seem so bad.

I just wonder what nothingness is. Because that's what happens when the current stops flowing through your brain. It's a terrifying thought but I don't like to bullshit myself with heaven or reincarnation.
 
Not gonna lie. I have no idea what you were trying to say in your first two paragraphs, but I guess it has something to do with comming at peace with dieing at some point.

I think a big part of it is just being trapped in a frail and decaying body. And ultimately the trade off with death and nothingness doesn't seem so bad.

I just wonder what nothingness is. Because that's what happens when the current stops flowing through your brain. It's a terrifying thought but I don't like to bullshit myself with heaven or reincarnation.
I was going to post the same thing and have no clue what your trying to get across in your thread OP.
I've seen my brother die in front of me from cancer and it just crushes your soul.
 
Not gonna lie. I have no idea what you were trying to say in your first two paragraphs, but I guess it has something to do with comming at peace with dieing at some point.

I think a big part of it is just being trapped in a frail and decaying body. And ultimately the trade off with death and nothingness doesn't seem so bad.

I just wonder what nothingness is. Because that's what happens when the current stops flowing through your brain. It's a terrifying thought but I don't like to bullshit myself with heaven or reincarnation.
you were nothing for billions of years before your birth.

does it bother you to know how much of human history you've missed out on?
 
An interesting thought is that if you in principle were able to extend your life indefinitely, you might be inadvertently locking yourself into this reality. It would be just like getting into a virtual reality world with no exit. Creepy.
 
a snail, turtle or a bird.

Choices choices :messenger_tears_of_joy:

On topic, it's quite scary to know that the coronavirus can kill you in like two days. Two days.

I've been doing Buddhist meditation on and off for a while, and one of the main meditations to do daily (one of my favs at least) is to meditate on your own inevitable death.

Look into it fellow Gaffers. Any Buddhist tradition will do to get you started. I hate preaching, but if you are open minded and don't know anything about Buddhism, try a real book (Brad Warner's Hardcore Zen is brilliant and funny. Shantideva is a famous old Buddhist monk who wrote some powerful stuff, such as The Bodhisattva's Way of Life. Or just buy a modern day book, but not an encyclopedia, a real Dharma book, such as Geshe Kelsang Gyatso's free Modern Buddhism, legal link below).


Page 33 talks about the meditation briefly. Other serious books might help explain how to actually do this meditation. But really just thinking about the matter might give you some perspective.

Like I say, this ain't me preaching. It's a lifetime commitment and I'm pretty slack, so what do I know?! I usually actively avoid suggesting stuff. But whatevs, I need to do my bit for those on lockdown.
 
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If there is reincarnation, maybe when the universe stops existing we'll be in a form where we remember every previous life we lived. And it will be a terrifying thing to see you were nothing but a wanker, a furious masturbator, in all of your lives. Even as a goddamn snail you were a wanker. You life as a plankton was spent with wanking around and being a lazy ass motherfucker.
 
Do you think that when we grow old and weary and maybe even spent, that living itself, in this world becomes as the same feeling as prolonging a day—going further in the day without taking that much needed nap or lying down to get that much needed rest?

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Boy I didn't expect this question to be presented in such a bleak and depressing way.
 
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Two things I know about death. It's inevitable and scary
It's not inevitable if technology continues at its current pace and you stay safe and healthy.

It's not scary either. Perhaps the method in which we die might be painful or unfortunate, but not existing anymore isn't necessarily scary. Live your life with as few regrets as possible and you'll be satisfied that you've tried to make as positive an impact on the Earth as you could with your life. A loss of any one of us is a tragedy, but hopefully we have lived our lives in a way that inspired others to take up our causes in our absence, and our impact on humanity echoes on into the future.

I always think what happens after death, like what will I be doing. Will I be aware that I am trapped in a grave until judgment day or am I going to be fully asleep till judgment day
Hard to say. No way to really test that.
 
Two things I know about death. It's inevitable and scary

I always think what happens after death, like what will I be doing. Will I be aware that I am trapped in a grave until judgment day or am I going to be fully asleep till judgment day

it's not that scary, there's a calm that rushes over you in the last couple seconds

as for what's after, that is between you and god
 
It's not inevitable if technology continues at its current pace and you stay safe and healthy.

It's not scary either. Perhaps the method in which we die might be painful or unfortunate, but not existing anymore isn't necessarily scary. Live your life with as few regrets as possible and you'll be satisfied that you've tried to make as positive an impact on the Earth as you could with your life. A loss of any one of us is a tragedy, but hopefully we have lived our lives in a way that inspired others to take up our causes in our absence, and our impact on humanity echoes on into the future.


Hard to say. No way to really test that.

holy shit renta is going off the fucking grid
 
No technology will save you from dying. Other than that I agree with everything else
Technology saves us from dying all the time. As we speak, thousands of people stricken with a bad case of coronavirus are being saved by ventilator technology and various cocktails of chemicals that have anti-viral and healing properties. The germ theory of disease allows us to understand this threat and deal with it in a science and technology based approach.

40 years ago, HIV/AIDS was a death sentence. Today, with the right drug cocktails, it has essentially turned into an expensive nuisance. 80 years ago, babies born with congenital heart defects were pretty much fucked. Now, they can be treated and live the life that they deserve and were previously denied by lack of technology. 100,000 years ago, we were gathering berries and being eaten by tigers and bears. Today, we are the most powerful and successful apex predator in the recorded and observed history of the Earth, and there are 8 billion pieces of evidence that show how far we've come in promoting life and discouraging death. This train isn't stopping.

We get better and better at saving lives (and also killing each other, sadly), but we still haven't conquered aging.

Aging is simply the accumulation over time of damage your body takes just by living. Fixing all those billions of ways that our bodies degrade is easier said than done. However, every year, we get better and better at understanding human biology and fixing what's wrong. Eventually, it's not unreasonable to assume that we can fix our bodies' damage faster than it occurs, at which point we've basically cured aging. It won't happen anytime soon, but it'll happen.

Aside from that, as digital technology improves, one day we might have the processing and storage capacity to map your entire consciousness out digitally and your personality can persist within a computer. At that point, biological limitations won't mean much anymore.

Those are just two possible examples of paths to overcoming the ultimate roadblock to immortality. All we need is time, the will to proceed, and the wisdom to not destroy ourselves and our progress in the process.
 
Technology saves us from dying all the time. As we speak, thousands of people stricken with a bad case of coronavirus are being saved by ventilator technology and various cocktails of chemicals that have anti-viral and healing properties. The germ theory of disease allows us to understand this threat and deal with it in a science and technology based approach.

40 years ago, HIV/AIDS was a death sentence. Today, with the right drug cocktails, it has essentially turned into an expensive nuisance. 80 years ago, babies born with congenital heart defects were pretty much fucked. Now, they can be treated and live the life that they deserve and were previously denied by lack of technology. 100,000 years ago, we were gathering berries and being eaten by tigers and bears. Today, we are the most powerful and successful apex predator in the recorded and observed history of the Earth, and there are 8 billion pieces of evidence that show how far we've come in promoting life and discouraging death. This train isn't stopping.

We get better and better at saving lives (and also killing each other, sadly), but we still haven't conquered aging.

Aging is simply the accumulation over time of damage your body takes just by living. Fixing all those billions of ways that our bodies degrade is easier said than done. However, every year, we get better and better at understanding human biology and fixing what's wrong. Eventually, it's not unreasonable to assume that we can fix our bodies' damage faster than it occurs, at which point we've basically cured aging. It won't happen anytime soon, but it'll happen.

Aside from that, as digital technology improves, one day we might have the processing and storage capacity to map your entire consciousness out digitally and your personality can persist within a computer. At that point, biological limitations won't mean much anymore.

Those are just two possible examples of paths to overcoming the ultimate roadblock to immortality. All we need is time, the will to proceed, and the wisdom to not destroy ourselves and our progress in the process.
I am sorry but this means nothing to someone that believes in god and believes theres nothing more powerful than god

I still stand with my point. You can cure, delay...etc But when god wants something to happen then it'll happen

Don't get me wrong I do believe in technology and development and at the same I believe nothing can top god
 
I am sorry but this means nothing to someone that believes in god and believes theres nothing more powerful than god

I still stand with my point. You can cure, delay...etc But when god wants something to happen then it'll happen

Don't get me wrong I do believe in technology and development and at the same I believe nothing can top god
Oh, well I wasn't really considering God as a factor when writing that, but does that necessarily need to be a counterpoint?

Sure, if an all-powerful God wants us to die, then there's nothing we could do about that. However, I assume that He values life, He values happiness, and He wants us to live and prosper. He gave us the intelligence and the tools and the means to do that, so I'm just extrapolating the natural extension of that way of thinking.
 
Oh, well I wasn't really considering God as a factor when writing that, but does that necessarily need to be a counterpoint?

Sure, if an all-powerful God wants us to die, then there's nothing we could do about that. However, I assume that He values life, He values happiness, and He wants us to live and prosper. He gave us the intelligence and the tools and the means to do that, so I'm just extrapolating the natural extension of that way of thinking.
How can you not when god is the one that takes life?

I like the way you think by the way. If it was someone else hitting me with the scientology bollocks it would've been different
 
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