Mask Efficacy |OT| Wuhan!! Got You All In Check

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betrayal said:
Somehow I have the feeling that in the coming weeks it will be less about Europe, which will get the problem under control faster and contain the virus, but that the USA will become a big and possibly long lasting issue.
Why? Because even during the biggest crisis of this generation, Democrats and Republicans are using the issue for campaigning and political agitation. I really kind of feel sorry for the normal folks in this country.
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Don't worry Africa will swoop in and take all the eyes off the USA.

(god forbid that happens because Africa is the worst place to have to deal with this).
 
Stitch said:
so something is happening in china



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tl;dr:

1. Lockdown in Hubei was lifted 2 days ago and people wanted to go back to work in Jiangxi. Jiangxi police would not let them in. People from Hubei got mad.

2. Jiangxi police invaded Hubei police jurisdiction, causing fights between the police.

3. Riots ensued.
 
E-Cat said:
tl;dr:

1. Lockdown in Hubei was lifted 2 days ago and people wanted to go back to work in Jiangxi. Jiangxi police would not let them in. People from Hubei got mad.

2. Jiangxi police invaded Hubei police jurisdiction, causing fights between the police.

3. Riots ensued.
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Sorry, this is all nonsense. China beat the virus and has already gone back to work. Didn't you hear? To be spreading such lies as this, you must just be jealous of their efficient handling of this pandemic in light of the incompetence of the Trump administration and the west in general!

sarcasm in case it wasn't clear
 
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DeepEnigma said:
Video shows cell phones on Florida beach during spring break, and where they've traveled during coronavirus outbreak



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What the hell? Here in Germany some guys created an app that will tell you if you were close to someone infected. I was wondering how they did that. With this tracking data, could it be that cellphone companies are marking cellphone signals from infected people for easier tracking? I saw that in Batman i think.
 
crowbrow said:
What the hell? Here in Germany some guys created an app that will tell you if you were close to someone infected. I was wondering how they did that. With this tracking data, could it be that cellphone companies are marking cellphone signals from infected people for easier tracking? I saw that in Batman i think.
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How do they know who is and who isn't infection? That 5G secret sauce besides being able to alter H2O molecules in the body?
 
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E-Cat said:
tl;dr:

1. Lockdown in Hubei was lifted 2 days ago and people wanted to go back to work in Jiangxi. Jiangxi police would not let them in. People from Hubei got mad.

2. Jiangxi police invaded Hubei police jurisdiction, causing fights between the police.

3. Riots ensued.
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This week in Spain, ambulances were showered with stones by residents because these ambulances drove infected people to the hospital in their city.

Of course China's numbers are wrong. Nevertheless, it is not really appropriate to use isolated events to draw general conclusions. This is not CNN.
 
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No dental work till may????
Called today to make an appointment and they told me the goverment doesnt allow them to operate.
So here i am need my tooth fixed as its starting to hurt and i have to wait more then a month.

Where does this end?
 
Zefah said:
Sorry, this is all nonsense. China beat the virus THAT THE US GAVE THEM and has already gone back to work. Didn't you hear? To be spreading such lies as this, you must just be jealous of their efficient handling of this pandemic in light of the incompetence of the Trump administration and the west in general!
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FTFY
 
Jtibh said:
No dental work till may????
Called today to make an appointment and they told me the goverment doesnt allow them to operate.
So here i am need my tooth fixed as its starting to hurt and i have to wait more then a month.

Where does this end?
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Easter.
 
Jtibh said:
No dental work till may????
Called today to make an appointment and they told me the goverment doesnt allow them to operate.
So here i am need my tooth fixed as its starting to hurt and i have to wait more then a month.

Where does this end?
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I had to puncture my gum to let the puss drain cuz dentists don't work.
Hope you toothache stops and it doesn't get serious.
 
Zefah said:
Sorry, this is all nonsense. China beat the virus and has already gone back to work. Didn't you hear? To be spreading such lies as this, you must just be jealous of their efficient handling of this pandemic in light of the incompetence of the Trump administration and the west in general!

sarcasm in case it wasn't clear
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To be fair, putting CCP lying and suppressing whistleblower 3 months ago aside, totalitarian countries with dictatorship has better social infrastructure to slow the spread of a pandemic. Even though I don't believe China numbers are accurate, especially within the epicenter Hubei, I do believe other metropolitan areas like Shanghai and Hong Kong got it under control after a COMPLETE lockdown of Hubei.

However in US, states didn't close borders with WA, CA, and NY after indications that there was gonna be outbreaks among these three areas, nor did NY counties other than NYC cut down every ways of traveling from NYC.

Based on https://nextstrain.org/ncov the genome data, the major influx of US cases are contributed to Europe, of which has only one strain from Hubei, compared with many more mutations within Hubei itself. While CCP officials are lying, I do trust doctors in the hospital and scientists who upload papers to bioRxiv, both of which sources I doubted average gaffers can comprehend.
 
Jonsoncao said:
To be fair, putting CCP lying and suppressing whistleblower 3 months ago aside, totalitarian countries with dictatorship has better social infrastructure to slow the spread of a pandemic. Even though I don't believe China numbers are accurate, especially within the epicenter Hubei, I do believe other metropolitan areas like Shanghai and Hong Kong got it under control after a COMPLETE lockdown of Hubei.
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I guess it depends on what you mean by "under control."

Here's what life looked like a couple of weeks ago in Nanjing.

 
Piku_Ringo said:
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In all seriousness, I set up the mediation thing and naturally it was right before all this shit, so it was put on hold.

I've heard him coughing a lot outside, so maybe he has it. He's a total moron a few times last week he had his boys over and they were outside gathered around dribbling a basketball, about 7 or 8 of them. He's been going out every single day, so he hasn't heeded the stay home warnings. No idea where he's been going. He's not out long enough to be working and comes back with no groceries or anything.
 
Smiles and Cries said:
I hate to post Political hot topics but this was a smooth move (feel free to repost on Politics Forum)

Oklahoma governor suspends abortions during pandemic
From CNN's Hollie Silverman

Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt suspended elective surgeries on Tuesday in an executive order.
On Friday, Stitt's office issued a clarification that classifies abortion services as elective if they are not deemed a medical emergency.
Abortions will only be deemed a medical emergency if they pose serious health risks to the mother, the statement from the governor's office said.


www.cnn.com

Oklahoma governor suspends abortions during pandemic

The novel coronavirus pandemic continues to impact countries worldwide, particularly in Europe and the US. Follow here for live updates
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but this will only cause a huge uproar and detract from the crisis we are facing. So in the end whatever good he was trying to do will cancel out. Someone is going to make a case out of this.
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Saving lives.
 
GamingKaiju said:
US is really fucking close to 100K cases now :messenger_fearful:

Goddamn I both wonder and fear what your total cases are going to be in the peak.
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The high case count means that we were not able to control the spread of the virus. Although there were many experts that were predicting this, our leadership thought it wouldn't happen to us.

There are actually two reasons for a high case count. We have failed to contain our spread early enough and we are testing more than the rest of the world. However, the measure of success is not about testing the most people than any other country. Don't let politicians fool you with numbers.

The leaders talk about testing more people than South Korea in 8 days versus 8 weeks, which is true. However, 8 weeks earlier is like 8 months earlier on an exponential curve. South Korea began testing much earlier and has successfully contained the spread so it didn't tax their hospitals. Has the United States done the same? That's the measure of success.
 
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Elektro Demon said:
I had to puncture my gum to let the puss drain cuz dentists don't work.
Hope you toothache stops and it doesn't get serious.
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A small piece broke off. Its sensitive i can feel a gap.
They told me to go to the doctor if i need antibiotics for the time if it gets bad.
They dont even take on emergency patients.

The bad part is after my heart surgery i cant have any infections as it will go to my heart so i have to be extra careful.

Who knew all these services get affected by the seasonal flu.

I cant even imagine all those people who are waiting for surgery and other treatments what they have to go through.
 
Zefah said:
I guess it depends on what you mean by "under control."

Here's what life looked like a couple of weeks ago in Nanjing.

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This is exactly what I mean. A totalitarian country can do this kind of shit.



US can't. You can't have military coming in and restricting people using fences.

Virus does not talk politics or ideology, like I said, if a dictator deprives people's freedom, the virus is slowed down in the meantime.

This is why I feel so hopeless for humanity, a totalitarian country can deal with this type of crisis. However, a democratic country in which people have freedom is not capable to lock down people's daily lives using military.

Given that China still hasn't found patient Zero, and papers on bioRxiv already debunked the speculation of SARS-nCov-2's initial host came from the market trading wild lives, in that the first few patients having no relation to that market. I have the following conspiracy theory:

SARS-nCov-2 is a leaked from a biochem lab from Wuhan by accident. However after evaluating the risks, the CCP is confident that they can contain the virus but western country cannot. As a result, they let this thing go loose the first month, so there is gonna be at least ONE super spreader traveling to other country (ONE suffices given the trait of this virus), then completely locking down Wuhan using military. While all people in the world wonder how CCP contains the virus, CCP just cuts down all connections from the world and enjoys watching the world burn.
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Elektro Demon said:
I had to puncture my gum to let the puss drain cuz dentists don't work.
Hope you toothache stops and it doesn't get serious.
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Buy a mouth pain liquid like Kanka. You can get it from Walmart it's cheap, and will make anything in your mouth go completely numb if applied liberally. Honestly this stuff is stupidly effective, it will feel like you are a time traveler compared to stuff like pills you have to get a prescription for.
 
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Smiles and Cries said:
corona(tm) time

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www.worldometers.info

Coronavirus Update (Live): 131,897,800 Cases and 2,865,517 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
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Think we'll get 10K more today? Seems unlikely, but NY usually does another update I think in the evening. 10K might be a lot though. Would mean 500k-600k in a day though.
 
Jonsoncao said:
This is exactly what I mean. A totalitarian country can do this kind of shit.



US can't. You can't have military coming in and restricting people using fences.

Virus does not talk politics or ideology, like I said, if a dictator deprives people's freedom, the virus is slowed down in the meantime.

This is why I feel so hopeless for humanity, a totalitarian country can deal with this type of crisis. However, a democratic country in which people have freedom is not capable to lock down people's daily lives using military.

Given that China still hasn't found patient Zero, and papers on bioRxiv already debunked the speculation of SARS-nCov-2's initial host came from the market trading wild lives, in that the first few patients having no relation to that market. I have the following conspiracy theory:
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If proper orders were given in any Democratic country by leadership, the majority of people would follow.
Most countries can also take all sorts of powers during a crisis.
They could make not following orders a crime.
The military could take similar actions, it's called Martial law.

We need to take these actions. We're running out of time.

Sandyman said:
I'm getting so depressed just locked up in here.
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Here are 2 responses, please choose the one that is more helpful for you, and disregard the other.

Go outside, get sick, infect your friends and loved ones. Potentially be responsible for one or more of their deaths.
Would that make you less depressed?

You're fighting for your country by staying home. Your fighting for your friends and family by staying home. This is your battle. You can do it.
 
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Jonsoncao said:
This is exactly what I mean. A totalitarian country can do this kind of shit.



US can't. You can't have military coming in and restricting people using fences.

Virus does not talk politics or ideology, like I said, if a dictator deprives people's freedom, the virus is slowed down in the meantime.

This is why I feel so hopeless for humanity, a totalitarian country can deal with this type of crisis. However, a democratic country in which people have freedom is not capable to lock down people's daily lives using military.

Given that China still hasn't found patient Zero, and papers on bioRxiv already debunked the speculation of SARS-nCov-2's initial host came from the market trading wild lives, in that the first few patients having no relation to that market. I have the following conspiracy theory:
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that's some dangerous thought. in shot period of time vultures might get you and say that they have an solution for all your problems.
 
Zefah said:
Sadly the country has been all about living above your means and borrowing money to facilitate that lifestyle for... well decades at least.
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Try the world.

This shit has even infected third world countries in Africa.

The banks just want to make... Bank.
 
Another evidence supporting the conspiracy theory I had is that it is found that (on bioRxiv preprints repo) SARS-nCov-2 has similar levels of genetic polymorphisms of the ACE2 receptor (so that it encloses the virus' protein shell) for all human races, while only Asians are more vulnerable to the original SARS to develop pneumonia due to genetic difference in ACE2 receptor.

SARS-nCov-2 has the perfect traits of a nuclear-scale biochem weapon: long window of being asymptomatic yet contagious; the death rate is relatively low vs the original SARS which further facilitates the spreading; different genomes of different races do not matter.
 
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Coronavirus may have infected half of UK population — Oxford study
New epidemiological model suggests the vast majority of people suffer little or no illness
Clive Cookson, Science Editor, March 24, 2020

The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.

If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.

"We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now," she said.
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The modelling by Oxford's Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group indicates that Covid-19 reached the UK by mid-January at the latest. Like many emerging infections, it spread invisibly for more than a month before the first transmissions within the UK were officially recorded at the end of February.

The research presents a very different view of the epidemic to the modelling at Imperial College London, which has strongly influenced government policy. "I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model," said Prof Gupta.
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Jtibh said:
No dental work till may????
Called today to make an appointment and they told me the goverment doesnt allow them to operate.
So here i am need my tooth fixed as its starting to hurt and i have to wait more then a month.

Where does this end?
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Jtibh said:
No dental work till may????
Called today to make an appointment and they told me the goverment doesnt allow them to operate.
So here i am need my tooth fixed as its starting to hurt and i have to wait more then a month.

Where does this end?
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Double check that mate. I'm no expert, but a tooth infection can lead to death. I had a pus filled problem tooth last year, didn't bother going to the dentist - thought I'd wait it out, all tough like, till I read online that the natural process leads to blood poisoning and certain death. Fact. I got to the dentist pretty fucking fast after that.

I don't see how the authorities wouldn't already know this. Double check. (Or find another dentist, I don't know. Good luck.)
 
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